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Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by HappyPagan: 11:00pm On Jan 25
LordReed:


The idea that nature is designed is a god-tinted notion.
Never heard this..short and direct. As I like it.

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Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by 4kings: 4:42am On Jan 28
Wowu! just logged in! This got interesting!!! cheesy

@MuttleyLaff I told you i have no issues with Gays as regard human rights.
What's with your quote?
If you looking for "evil", i think you can find it in any form...
Anyways, i think UyiIredia has given an apt response. grin

As per your evil claim on incest:
Starting with consent from a Father :- That's a very weak argument... That's just plain generalisation first of all and we can as well apply to most Fathers in Nigeria/Africa for gays too...
Moreso, why do we need the Father for drawing a boundary of right or wrong here? I have read cases of incestious relationships between a Father and Son and Father and Daughter.
Incest can be between two consenting adults especially in this modern era uncle.

Anyways, my point was on Liberals though, like i said.
UyiIredia has tried to substantiate this but you still don't get it.
There are states even in the US, that has 15 and 13 years as age of consent for marriage... Because of poor logic you guys use for matters, i won't be surprised if 20 years from now, Incest, sexual relationships with 13 years and above, etc would be considered normal in most part of the world.

Anyways, evil and good even for me is very tricky for matters like this, that's why like i told UyiIredia, i don't want to be too assertive at this point, but read more and listen to different perspectives as i form my views.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by MuttleyLaff: 6:20am On Jan 28
4kings:
Wowu! just logged in! This got interesting!!! cheesy
It becomes more interesting when you have the epiphany that, it is not WHO you love, but HOW you love.

4kings:
@MuttleyLaff I told you i have no issues with Gays as regard human rights.
"... Some of those guys are weird like that"
by by 4kings: 12:33pm On Jan 24

You dont have issues with gays, as regards human rights, but according to the above inverted commas quotation, you do find the gays weird, dont you? So I asked, what's the evil in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour and what specifically do you find weird about gays?

4kings:
What's with your quote?
If you looking for "evil", i think you can find it in any form...
4kings, I repeat, I do understand by your admission that you dont have any problems with gays, so now, without you prevaricating, what evil is there, in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour?

Also what specifically is it, you said you find weird, in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour?

4kings:
Anyways, i think UyiIredia has given an apt response. grin
4kings, you really think UyiIredia has? You really think, his response abided by the totality and/or full purview of my question?. Listen, 4kings, I see, UyiIredia, as someone trying to justify his bias and ignorance with using murderers to leverage with, comparing two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour with murderers who have harmed and unlawfully killed other humans without any justification or valid excuse.

I see UyiIredia, as someone having the temerity to ask how pedophilia is harmful, is cheating, is betraying and is detrimental. Someone not acknowledging that pedophilia has to do with sexual feelings directed at and/or towards children. SMH.

4kings:
As per your evil claim on incest:
Starting with consent from a Father :- That's a very weak argument... That's just plain generalisation first of all and we can as well apply to most Fathers in Nigeria/Africa for gays too...
Moreso, why do we need the Father for drawing a boundary of right or wrong here? I have read cases of incestious relationships between a Father and Son and Father and Daughter.
Incest can be between two consenting adults especially in this modern era uncle.
I see, just like UyiIredia, you are unwilling and hesitant to say and/or admit the evil there is in incestuous, necrophilia, bestial & pedophilic relationships.

Incest, though might turn out to be a consensual sexual activity or somehow cajoled into by means of all manners of manipulation, still borders on being treachery, harmful to another person(s), cheating on another person(s), betraying another person(s) and being detrimental to another person(s).

4kings, no father will give his blessing that his son should have a sexual relationship with his wife, his son's mother. If you beg to differ 4kings, then please I profusely beg you, show me as evidence, in post modern society, a father, that has ever given his blessing that his son can fairk his wife, his son's mother. I've already conceded that incestuous relationships was previously kosher, but has become stale and expired, it has gone past it's "use-by" date. I dont have to discuss genetic disorders in excessive detail, so I will leave it at the "use-by" date juncture, as I know you got the drift

4kings:
Anyways, my point was on Liberals though, like i said.
UyiIredia has tried to substantiate this but you still don't get it.
There are states even in the US, that has 15 and 13 years as age of consent for marriage... Because of poor logic you guys use for matters, i won't be surprised if 20 years from now, Incest, sexual relationships with 13 years and above, etc would be considered normal in most part of the world.
SMH. Here you are a pot, looking for kettle to associate with and point out as being black as you are. The crucial point you arent getting, is that, kids born to parents in an incestuous relationship have an increased chance of having certain biological or medical problems than those born to parents not in an incestuous relationship. So yes, incestous relationship was OK to start with, but as time passed on, for a very good biological and/or medical reason, had an embargo imposed on the practice. Now, it will be a another kettle of fish, if you move, to talking of non reproductive incestuous relationships.

4kings:
Anyways, evil and good even for me is very tricky for matters like this, that's why like I told UyiIredia, I don't want to be too assertive at this point, but read more and listen to different perspectives as i form my views.
My question, is simple, clear-cut and nowhere being tricky at all:

4kings clearly and distinctly, and without again prevaricating, tell what evil is there, in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour?

Either tell what the evil is or admit there is no evil in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour.

It's a so simple and easy to answer to question, but all you and UyiIredia are doing, is sitting on the fence, vacillating about and squirming
cc Ranchhoddas

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Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Ranchhoddas: 3:12pm On Jan 28
^^^^This man. What is wrong is that it harms my sensibilities. Is that not harmful enough? The idea of two men sweating on top of each other is harmful to me. Tufiakwa!!!

Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by MuttleyLaff: 5:08pm On Jan 28
Ranchhoddas:
^^^^This man.
What is wrong is that it harms my sensibilities. Is that not harmful enough?
The idea of two men sweating on top of each other is harmful to me.
Tufiakwa!!!
Get a grip, watching heterosexuals humping away in broad daylight on the grass in an open park will offend my sensibility
Quite a few other things also offends our sensibilities, but it doesnt mean that those other things including same sex relationships, as I've put forward between two ordinary consenting adult etcetera that you find offends your sensibility is evil

Unless you are a perv or into voyeurism, I dont know how you'll see them in their privacy and how your imagination of them gets to harm your sensibilities.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Ranchhoddas: 5:47pm On Jan 28
MuttleyLaff:
Get a grip, watching heterosexuals humping away in broad daylight on the grass in an open park will offend my sensibility
Quite a few other things also offends our sensibilities, but it doesnt mean that those other things including same sex relationships, as I've put forward between two ordinary consnting adult etcetera that you find offends your sensibility is evil

Unless you are a perv or into voyeurism, I dont know how you'll see them in their privacy and how your imagination of them gets to harm your sensibilities.
It is the IDEA. I don't have to see them.
Yuck!
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by MuttleyLaff: 5:51pm On Jan 28
Ranchhoddas:
It is the IDEA. I don't have to see them.
Yuck!
Bro, you have 99 problems but hating on these guys and/or same sex relationships, shouldnt be among them 99 problems now
Dont worry, I'll soon meet up with you on the other thread, just havent got round yet replying back to your last post on there
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by 4kings: 3:54am On Jan 29
MuttleyLaff:
It becomes more interesting when you have the epiphany that, it is not WHO you love, but HOW you love.

"... Some of those guys are weird like that"
by by 4kings: 12:33pm On Jan 24

You dont have issues with gays, as regards human rights, but according to the above inverted commas quotation, you do find the gays weird, dont you? So I asked, what's the evil in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour and what specifically do you find weird about gays?

4kings, I repeat, I do understand by your admission that you dont have any problems with gays, so now, without you prevaricating, what evil is there, in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour?

Also what specifically is it, you said you find weird, in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour?
Oga mi.
I didn't even know this was what you highlighted from my post that warranted that question.
So in your mind, you've equated "Weird" with "Evil"?

What's your definition of weird and what's your definition of evil?
Hopefully its the same definition i understand, figure this out and tell me how pertinent your question is?


4kings, you really think UyiIredia has? You really think, his response abided by the totality and/or full purview of my question?. Listen, 4kings, I see, UyiIredia, as someone trying to justify his bias and ignorance with using murderers to leverage with, comparing two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour with murderers who have harmed and unlawfully killed other humans without any justification or valid excuse.

I see UyiIredia, as someone having the temerity to ask how pedophilia is harmful, is cheating, is betraying and is detrimental. Someone not acknowledging that pedophilia has to do with sexual feelings directed at and/or towards children. SMH.

I see, just like UyiIredia, you are unwilling and hesitant to say and/or admit the evil there is in incestuous, necrophilia, bestial & pedophilic relationships.

Incest, though might turn out to be a consensual sexual activity or somehow cajoled into by means of all manners of manipulation, still borders on being treachery, harmful to another person(s), cheating on another person(s), betraying another person(s) and being detrimental to another person(s).
Here's a link i bookmarked in Quora.
Read the (should be second) answer of how harmful the incest victim thought her relationship with her dad was and how it affected her career.
https://www.quora.com/What-does-incest-feel-like

And you should really read more of that, i have read most similar stories on Quora and Reddit. This your portrayal of incest does not play out everywhere.


4kings, no father will give his blessing that his son should have a sexual relationship with his wife, his son's mother. If you beg to differ 4kings, then please I profusely beg you, show me as evidence, in post modern society, a father, that has ever given his blessing that his son can fairk his wife, his son's mother. I've already conceded that incestuous relationships was previously kosher, but has become stale and expired, it has gone past it's "use-by" date. I dont have to discuss genetic disorders in excessive detail, so I will leave it at the "use-by" date juncture, as I know you got the drift
Are you living in utopia?
I have read here in Nairaland were a Grandmother was aware of sexual relations going on between Father and Daughter and did nothing.
Moreso, read were Men use their children for sacrifice for prospective wealth and all....
Seen movie projections of the idea of a three$ome in a family.
This is not one to be considered an impossibility in this world we live in.

Besides like i said before which you ommited, this argument makes no sense.
Are you using the Father here as a judge for morality?
Can you easily see any Nigerian man that would be proud of his Son bestiality or homosexuality? Would that be a valid argument to support a bestiality opposition?


SMH. Here you are a pot, looking for kettle to associate with and point out as being black as you are. The crucial point you arent getting, is that, kids born to parents in an incestuous relationship have an increased chance of having certain biological or medical problems than those born to parents not in an incestuous relationship. So yes, incestous relationship was OK to start with, but as time passed on, for a very good biological and/or medical reason, had an embargo imposed on the practice. Now, it will be a another kettle of fish, if you move, to talking of non reproductive incestuous relationships.
Wow, you just skipped my main point on Pedophilia here.

And when you say i'm pot calling kettle black here... what exactly did you mean? I didn't get it at all... Do you know what that phrase means?

And why can't i move to non reproductive incestuous relationships, most are based on being non reproductive.

Anyways, is your argument against incest because of health issues? You do differentiate Incest fromm Inbreeding right?

And when was it OK to start with? and at what time was it less harmful? Incest i mean.

Anyways, Mr Man, my main issue was not on incest but like UyiIredia said an argument of slippery slope from supporting some Liberals views not just incest.


My question, is simple, clear-cut and nowhere being tricky at all:

4kings clearly and distinctly, and without again prevaricating, tell what evil is there, in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour?

Either tell what the evil is or admit there is no evil in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour.

It's a so simple and easy to answer to question, but all you and UyiIredia are doing, is sitting on the fence, vacillating about and squirming
cc Ranchhoddas
See first quote for this.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by MuttleyLaff: 9:23am On Jan 29
4kings:
Oga mi.
I didn't even know this was what you highlighted from my post that warranted that question.
So in your mind, you've equated "Weird" with "Evil"?
Oga mi, if you were sincere and honest, you will admit that I separated evil and weird, by first asking, what is evil, in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour and then asked what specifically you find weird about gays

You guys are fond of and just like prevaricating and ignoring the purview of questions asked you. Now tell and show me, where anyone or me has equated "Weird" with "Evil" on this thread?

I was merely exploring lines of enquiry on whether you are able to articulate the evil there is, in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour and explain what you've admitted to and find weird in same sex relationship but here you are turning the whole matter on its head, huffing and puffing upandan the whole place

4kings:
What's your definition of weird and what's your definition of evil?
Hopefully its the same definition i understand, figure this out and tell me how pertinent your question is?
Shame on you, if this is your way to clearly, decisively and confidently not answer the question.

If you must know, I know not of any evil, therein, of two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour however as a heterosexual, I do find same sex prefering themselves, in a "not bad" way, have this element or qualities of surrealism about it.

4kings:
Here's a link i bookmarked in Quora.
Read the (should be second) answer of how harmful the incest victim thought her relationship with her dad was and how it affected her career.
https://www.quora.com/What-does-incest-feel-like
What is this garbage link you've sign posted me too?. SMH.

4kings:
And you should really read more of that, i have read most similar stories on Quora and Reddit. This your portrayal of incest does not play out everywhere.
Was it me, who brought in incestous relationship?

4kings:
Are you living in utopia?
Exactly my point, and that's how I earlier wrote: In an ideal world, that maybe the case, that "man was made for woman" unfortunately, we dont have and don't live in an ideal world like that

Now remember, on the issue of same sex relationship, my question centres between the confines of two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour. Notice the keywords are consent, adults, no harm, truthful (i.e. no secrecy), no cheating, no betrayal, no treachery etcetera

4kings:
I have read here in Nairaland were a Grandmother was aware of sexual relations going on between Father and Daughter and did nothing.
Moreso, read were Men use their children for sacrifice for prospective wealth and all....
Seen movie projections of the idea of a three$ome in a family.
This is not one to be considered an impossibility in this world we live in.
I cant believe, that in order to have a cheap one over, you guys will descend into the slime, and be bringing up abuses, children sexually assaulted to advance a non point. SMH

4kings:
Besides like i said before which you ommited, this argument makes no sense.
Are you using the Father here as a judge for morality?
You are typing like a drowning man, who will clutch at any straw in sight. No, I am not using the father here as a judge for morality, I merely asked a simple question, you have difficult giving a honest sincere and outright answer to

4kings:
Can you easily see any Nigerian man that would be proud of his Son bestiality or homosexuality? Would that be a valid argument to support a bestiality opposition?
You this man sef SMH. Do animals give consent? SMH. Mtchewww. Where is that OBJ what kind of nonsense is this meme when you need it?

4kings:
Wow, you just skipped my main point on Pedophilia here.
You should be reported to the authorities, if like UyiIredia, you have the temerity to ask how pedophilia is harmful, is cheating, is betraying and is detrimental. How can someone not acknowledge that pedophilia has to do with sexual feelings directed at and/or towards children. SMH.

4kings:
And when you say i'm pot calling kettle black here... what exactly did you mean? I didn't get it at all... Do you know what that phrase means?
Please learn to read correctly, I wrote: "Here you are a pot, looking for kettle to associate with and point out as being black as you are. The crucial point you arent getting, is that, kids born to parents in an incestuous relationship have an increased chance of having certain biological or medical problems than those born to parents not in an incestuous relationship. So yes, incestous relationship was OK to start with, but as time passed on, for a very good biological and/or medical reason, had an embargo imposed on the practice. Now, it will be an another kettle of fish, if you move, to talking of non reproductive incestuous relationships"

4kings:
And why can't i move to non reproductive incestuous relationships, most are based on being non reproductive.
What of those that dont remain or stay being non reproductive?

4kings:
Anyways, is your argument against incest because of health issues? You do differentiate Incest from Inbreeding right?
Yes fundamentally because of the range of mental, emotional, biological and health issues. Of course, inbreeding is upping the ante, so to speak. Inbreeding, as it were, compared with incest, is notching up.

4kings:
And when was it OK to start with? and at what time was it less harmful? Incest I mean.
It was OK to start with before the degradation of the DNA block. Incest posed no harm at the earliest time (i.e. in the beginning)

4kings:
Anyways, Mr Man, my main issue was not on incest but like UyiIredia said an argument of slippery slope from supporting some Liberals views not just incest.
I didnt introduce incest either, my interest solely is fairness, justice and level playing field without fear of discrimination, for two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses to enjoy a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour

4kings:
See first quote for this.
What first quote?


Two so simple and easy to answer to questions on the supposedly evil and the weirdness you mentioned and admitted to have, and all you and UyiIredia keep doing, is sitting on the fence, vacillating about and squirming
cc Ranchhoddas

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Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by sanpipita(m): 10:27am On Jan 29
Interesting discussions here, while I could be liberal minded I believe some liberal views could causes chaos and needs to be checked.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by MuttleyLaff: 12:50pm On Jan 29
sanpipita:
Interesting discussions here, while I could be liberal minded I believe some liberal views could causes chaos and needs to be checked.
What specifically is the chaos that needs to be checked, in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses to enjoy a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour?
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by sanpipita(m): 1:08pm On Jan 29
MuttleyLaff:
What specifically is the chaos that needs to be checked, in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses to enjoy a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour?

Isn't just about sex part, I'm totally in support of same sex relationship, but lots of liberal views could bring chaos like say we are legalizing marijuana now even with marijuanas illegal in certain places you could still have kids get access to them, with the legality it could be much worse we could end with a world full of junkies, there's also a case of pro immigration views
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by MuttleyLaff: 1:25pm On Jan 29
sanpipita:
Isn't just about sex part, I'm totally in support of same sex relationship, but lots of liberal views could bring chaos like say we are legalizing marijuana now even with marijuanas illegal in certain places you could still have kids get access to them, with the legality it could be much worse we could end with a world full of junkies, there's also a case of pro immigration views
You can't because of wanting to avoid chaos not do the right thing, not do what is right or not face up to our responsibilities. Now you are coming off as sounding irrational, how possibly can we ever end up with a world full of junkies, huh?
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by sanpipita(m): 2:01pm On Jan 29
MuttleyLaff:
You can't because of wanting to avoid chaos not do the right thing, not do what is right or not face up to our responsibilities. Now you are coming off as sounding irrational, how possibly can we ever end up with a world full of junkies, huh?

I'm not irrational, I'm exploring cons of decisions we might take, our responsibilities could equally to protect ourselves by any means we can, if we have to keep ppl safe from marijuana maybe best could be to keep it illegal though might really solve few things.
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by MuttleyLaff: 5:33pm On Jan 29
sanpipita:
I'm not irrational, I'm exploring cons of decisions we might take, our responsibilities could equally to protect ourselves by any means we can, if we have to keep ppl safe from marijuana maybe best could be to keep it illegal though might really solve few things.
So do you then think, we might end up with a world full of people in same sex relationships? You said something similar when you remarked, we could have a world ending up full of junkies
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by sanpipita(m): 7:38am On Jan 30
MuttleyLaff:
So do you then think, we might end up with a world full of people in same sex relationships? You said something similar when you remarked, we could have a world ending up full of junkies

You are exaggerating my point here, world getting full of junkies doesn't mean everyone becomes a junkie
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by MuttleyLaff: 8:30am On Jan 30
sanpipita:
You are exaggerating my point here, world getting full of junkies doesn't mean everyone becomes a junkie
No I never intentionally wanted to "exaggerate" your point but why make an impetuous remark, afterall remember what you originally typed was "isn't just about sex part, I'm totally in support of same sex relationship, but lots of liberal views could bring chaos like say we are legalizing marijuana now even with marijuanas illegal in certain places you could still have kids get access to them, with the legality it could be much worse we could end with a world full of junkies, there's also a case of pro immigration views"

On one hand, you are in for same sex relationships, but you then with the other hand, seem to be throwing water on same sex relationships. When marijuana is abused, when immigration is abused will certainly have problems, same way when sex same relationship are abused and discriminated against. You obviously read what happened to American actor, singer, director and photographer Jussie Smollett in the early hours of yesterday. Imagine that being your son, brother, uncle, father, friend, neighbour or work colleague would you be happy or pleased over the ordeal he was put through?
cc Ranchhoddas
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by sanpipita(m): 9:03am On Jan 30
MuttleyLaff:
No I never intentionally wanted to "exaggerate" your point but why make an impetuous remark, afterall remember what you originally typed was "isn't just about sex part, I'm totally in support of same sex relationship, but lots of liberal views could bring chaos like say we are legalizing marijuana now even with marijuanas illegal in certain places you could still have kids get access to them, with the legality it could be much worse we could end with a world full of junkies, there's also a case of pro immigration views"

On one hand, you are in for same sex relationships, but you then with the other hand, seem to be throwing water on same sex relationships. When marijuana is abused, when immigration is abused will certainly have problems, same way when sex same relationship are abused and discriminated against. You obviously read what happened to American actor, singer, director and photographer Jussie Smollett in the early hours of yesterday. Imagine that being your son, brother, uncle, father, friend, neighbour or work colleague would you be happy or pleased over the ordeal he was put through?
cc Ranchhoddas


You still sticking off to my point, my whole start up here wasn't about homosexuality I condemn homophobia it total, I have done alot of that in this forum and beyond

Stating fears legalization of marijuana or unchecked immigration isn't discriminatory, when you start taking in lots of people into your country you risk creating social issues for yourself not like im going to endorse any unwarranted attacks on people cos they take marijauna or are immigrants, try think beyond sexuality by the way, my issue here wasn't about sexuality, I have no issues with sexuality
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by seunnix41: 11:46am On Jan 30
just cool
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by MuttleyLaff: 8:23am On Jan 31
sanpipita:
You still sticking off to my point, my whole start up here wasn't about homosexuality I condemn homophobia it total, I have done alot of that in this forum and beyond

Stating fears legalization of marijuana or unchecked immigration isn't discriminatory, when you start taking in lots of people into your country you risk creating social issues for yourself not like im going to endorse any unwarranted attacks on people cos they take marijauna or are immigrants, try think beyond sexuality by the way, my issue here wasn't about sexuality, I have no issues with sexuality
If true to yourself, you would admit that same sex relationship issue was the focus before you turned up trying to append marijuana and immigration matter to it,

So you know, it is because of incidents like what happened to American actor, singer, director and photographer Jussie Smollett in the early hours of Monday the past, that makes it a conscientious decision for me, to think about sexuality, the unfairness and injustice to it

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Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by sanpipita(m): 8:46am On Jan 31
MuttleyLaff:
If true to yourself, you would admit that same sex relationship issue was the focus before you turned up trying to append marijuana and immigration matter to it,

So you know, it is because of incidents like what happened to American actor, singer, director and photographer Jussie Smollett in the early hours of Monday the past, that makes it a conscientious decision for me, to think about sexuality, the unfairness and injustice to it


I didn't comment to follow up what's already been discussed really, talked up my own views or is this thread basically about same sex issues? for homophobia we still got a long way to possibly eradicate it, you gona still have narrow minded who will want to cause others harm just for their sexuality
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by QuentinDay: 1:42pm On Jan 31
seunnix41:
just cool
True
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by suchmuch: 4:22pm On Feb 03
Any athiest/agnostic/deist in ibadan please lets hook up at palms mall tonight

You can send me a pm
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by JeromeBlack: 8:27am On Feb 04
suchmuch:
Any athiest/agnostic/deist in ibadan please lets hook up at palms mall tonight

You can send me a pm

grin

And how do we know that you are not a ritualist? Pantie stealer? Skull miner?

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Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by AlBaqir(m): 3:56am On Feb 05
Mr Seun,

Kindly help restore my post on my new thread:
https://www.nairaland.com/5002458/fallacy-interpretation-73-sect-hadith

Banned by antispam bot for no reason, and my post got hidden. Unfortunately, Islam section mod seems to be too busy to reply mails (or attend to such problem) these days.

Thanks
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by suchmuch: 7:53am On Feb 05
JeromeBlack:


grin

And how do we know that you are not a ritualist? Pantie stealer? Skull miner?
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Golden6(m): 3:23am On Feb 08

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