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snakebeat:
Better; go for H beams steel
Cheaper go for 4" galvinized pipe or concrete.
But i normally advise steel stand, because one may need to utilize space in the future, u can easily relocate steel stand, but concrete stand is not moveable.

Hello, thank you for the advice. Where can I find more info about H Beam, 4" galvanized steel, and the steel stand (I mean pictures of what you are talking about)? In the meantime, I will do some 'Googling'

Good day my people, and peace be unto you. I want to construct a water tank stand for a four 3 x bed flats one storey building (ground and first floor). Which is better (or cheaper), metal stand or brick/concrete stand, and roughly how much will either cost (materials and labour). The area is Ota in Ogun State. The stand is for 2 tanks (about 2000L each). Thank you

Is it too late to invest in land in Lekki Free Trade zone? If not, any tips/advice, advantages, disadvantages, pitfalls to watch out for?

diordaves and Daboomb, thank you for your advice. I appreciate it. Any suggestions what I should aim for in terms of materials and labour cost?

Good day house. So my quest for a septic tank and soak-away continues. Size of septic tank is (10ft x 8ft x 10ft) and soak-away is (7ft x 7ft x 6ft). Location is Sango Ota, Ogun State.

Digging – already done for N70k after hard bargaining.

Quote from bricklayer work: 1 lorry (20 tons) of sharp sand = N65k. 400 pcs of 9” blocks at N190/pc = N76k. Labour (includes setting blocks, plastering and casting) = N80k. Total = N221,000.

Quote from Welder: 12lengths (39ft) of 16mm N3,500/length = N42,000. 17 lengths (39ft) of 12mm at N2,000/length = N34,000. 7 lengths of 10mm N1,500/length = N10,500, binding wire = N2,000 labour = N8,000. Total = N96,500

Quote from Carpenter: 2 x 3 plank of 11 pcs at N500/pc = N5,500. Somi-wood 23 pcs at N1300/pc = N29,900. Nails 2 inches = N3000, 3 inches = N3000. Labour = N18, 000. Total = N59,400

Grand Total = (70k + 221k + 96.5k + 59.4k) = N446,900 Is this a reasonable amount for constructing a ST and SA of the aforementioned size! Cement, soft sand and granite not included as I have some of these already. Thank you

Where are the up and coming areas now in Lagos that one can buy land that will appreciate significantly in the next few years?

Babs612000:
Yes but he is base in Abeokuta and only work there not outside Abeokuta.

Okay, thank you. I suppose he won't consider going as far as Sango Ota?

Babs612000:
The 150k is not to bad for the job.

Hello. The N150k is just for digging!!!!

Barryton:
Are they also plastering the soakaway?
is decking also included in the labour?

Actually, i was wrong! Just checked again with the person and the N150K was actually for only digging!!!!

Babs612000:
You are not answering the question.
Is the N150k for digging only ?
If it is that is too much.
I just done mine which is 10x10and 12ft deep.
And 6x6ft.
I paid N50k for it in Abeokuta just because of hard Land that have Rock .
Normally it should cost me N35k but because of the rock l have to paid 15k more.
Yours should not be more than 60k due to the size.

Do you have contact details for the person that dug your septic tank and soak-away please?

Babs612000:
You are not answering the question.
Is the N150k for digging only ?
If it is that is too much.
I just done mine which is 10x10and 12ft deep.
And 6x6ft.
I paid N50k for it in Abeokuta just because of hard Land that have Rock .
Normally it should cost me N35k but because of the rock l have to paid 15k more.
Yours should not be more than 60k due to the size.

Hello. The N150k is for the digging, setting of blocks and plastering.

Flaghouse1:
Is the labour cost for construction of bunkers

Okay, so how much should I look to pay for labour? Whilst on the subject, what is the daily rate for a labourer please?

EgunMogaji:
I’m seriously disappointed in myself though because I missed it. And such a dear section to me too.

This is why I’m recommending a second eye to help oversee stuff.

I feel your pain sir. Several, albeit minor (easily rectifiable) mistakes were made by my builder as well. You wonder whether they are blind or something; how difficult can it be to look at the plan in front of you and build as per what is on the plan!!!

Good evening house. Was quoted the following size and labour cost for a septic tank and soak-away for a 4 flats building:

Septic tank: 10ft (wide) x 10ft (long) x 14ft (deep). Soak-away: 7ft (wide) x 7ft (long) x 7ft (deep).
Labour cost only: N150K. This I believe is way to high, how low should I negotiate it please? Thank you. Site is at Sango-Ota (Ogun State).

Question: why do kitchens and bathrooms/toilets get tiled from floor to ceiling all four walls in Nigeria? In Europe (not sure of US, but I believe same), just the space between the worktops and wall cabinets are tiled, the rest of the wall is just painted. Same with bathrooms, most times just half tiling, and the rest of the wall painted. See example pics below:

Rubbiish:
Glaze & ceramics are mostly used, Times, pnt & goodwill are nigerian products & they are good. You can get your tiler to accompany to u when u want to buy.
But when it comes to tiles spanish products are the best, especially for wall tiles, but they are very expensive...It all boils down to your pocket...

Many thanks for the advice!

WorldAmbassador:
@rabcnesbit. I had Time Ceramics, PNT and Goodwill tiles installed in my house(see attached pic). When I bought them, the boxes said made in Nigeria (Ogun and Edo State). They have withstood the test of time- from the foot traffic and harsh elements, so I'm pleased.

Disclaimer: I am not a tiler, or contractor or own shares in the above companies Just felt like giving you advice. Happy New Year

Thank you. Your advice is much appreciated!

Compliments of the season house! Your advice would be much appreciated as usual. What brand of tiles should I consider for my floor and wall tiles. I just want something strong and durable. Does not have to be imported. All these supposed imported stuff are not necessarily the superior stuff. Guys go to places like China to source the cheapest and most inferior stuff and sell them of in Nigeria at exorbitant prices because they are "imported"! Thanks

Daboomb:
This would be difficult to assist in that the type of Tiles they would buy for you, cannot be defined here.
Better you go to Orile and buy the Tiles yourself! You can decide on the QUALITY you want and price it properly.
- 100 bags of Cement? That might not be a bad figure, depending on the method used, which is also determined by how level the original floors/walls are!
_ The Square/meter will almost certainly be INFLATED a bit but that is not a problem, as long as you can monitor and ensure that your Tiles are not put in the boot of their van and driven-off!

The labour looks high a bit but that too is also not a problem.
First agree on HOW MUCh you will pay for every Square-Meter of area Tiled. Mine was #350/Square meter
Then allow them to finish ALL THE TILE works.
You then have to take your Tiler around and MEASURE the Area covered with tiles. (Na so l do with my Tiler, though its a tough work and requires a "sharp mind" otherwise, magomago will enter. ).

Multiply area tiled (in square meters) b the amount agreed initially, to arrive at how much to pay for labour.
Though l dont know the size of your building or where and you will extend the Tiles to (liek under staircase, All balcony, some on wall of fence, e.t.c) so it is gonna be difficult to say whether you are being cheated or not.

At the end of the day, based on what we agreed, l apid and we were both happy but if not for that method, l would have paid at least 40% more, based on the "I do all" quote th Tiler and others first gave me.

If you want to save money, be ready tosacrifice your time and energy.
*** There is an adroid App that calculates almost ANYTHING for you automatically, just slot-in the values and it will pour out the result for you***
No matter what, if l do this work assuming it is my own build l will still save no less than 300-400K.

Hope this little helps

Sir thank you very much. Your advice is most appreciated. What is this andriod app you talk about? In terms of quality (durability) of tiles, are Nigerian made tiles okay, as I am guessing they will be cheaper than imported. I am not one of this people that believe that anything imported is always better than the local made products. Some so called imported goods are cheap inferior stuff from China etc! Thank you

GoodFaith:
Labor cost is high-- November last year i paid N55,000 in Benin for two flats three bedroom with en suite bathroom
to tile a room is one and half bag of cement 100 bags is a lot

Thank you

Shegman22:
should I give you another quote sir? We can talk more on whatsapp 08060891332

Please do. Thank you

My peoples, your advice needed please. Below is an estimate of tiling a 2 storey of 4 x 3 bedrooms flats building located in Sango. Just your box-standard 4 flats of 3 bedroom flats with living room/dinning, kitchen, master bedroom with en-suite and small store. Nothing fancy. The costs of the tiles is average, and will change depending on design/colour/quality one eventually goes for. I just need your advice more on the quantity of materials quoted and labour charge. Do they seem reasonable? Many thanks!

EgunMogaji:
I've always felt that stainless steel is better in commercial application and looks gaudy in homes because it most always not matched to other accouterments.

My choice for my homes have always been wrought iron.

Good luck on your decision.

Thank you!

Greetings all! I am about to start the instalment of balcony rails and stairs hand rails. The types I have come across so far are stainless steel, aluminium, wrought iron and mild steel. What are the pros and cons of each please? I am guessing stainless steel will be the most expensive! Of the remaining three, which will be better in terms of value for money and durability. Thank you

bixton:
. Nope. Add a max of 3 bags for that.

Thank you!

bixton:
. As long as your drainage flows freely without impediments it is okay and legal to do that. But you can confirm such from the sanitation authorities within your locality. Based on number of bags for plastering you can use this to have an idea.....(standard room of 12X12 will use 6bags for plastering as long as your walls are in order of alignment).
The pits all serve the same purpose. Government regulatory standard demands you do separate but you can opt to do it as a single unit. There's no big deal about it.

Thank you very much. Much obliged. Does the 6 bags for a 12 x 12 room include plastering the ceiling?

desiji:
This is very interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbjNo_G-3n8&t=5s

How simple and down to earth the developer (Suleiman Yusuf) comes across, and also well spoken. No arrogance or vulgar ostentatious display of 'wealth'!

bixton:
. It all depends on how you intend to give out the plastering work(plastering/rendering/dressing).
A partition to be worked upon by an artisan ranges from #1500-#2500(min-max) depending on how you bargain which also depends on either the client is paying the labour by him/herself separately or the artisan handles that payment completely.
If there is an existing drainage that actually flows, outside your compound or close by you can channel all waste water(kitchen,laundry,bathing) to it and build only that which will hold the waste from toilet. For only toilet waste you can use 3ft X 8ft. But if your doing both soakaway/septic as single unit, you can do 6ft X 12ft.

Hello, thank you for your advice. I am most grateful. You did not advise as to number of bags of cement that will be required. Also, what are the pros and cons of doing soakaway/septic as single unit as opposed to separate units (ie. which is better)? Also, channelling the waste water (from kitchen,laundry, bathing) to any existing drainage, is that legal, and will that lead to any potential problems in future? Many thanks

bixton:
. Can you give the area of coverage of respective sections you want to effect plastering?
Such apartments may require a separate septic and soak away pit which usually depends on land space/availability. More so is there an existing drainage close to the facility?

Hello. The plot itself is 40m x 40m x 72.61m x 75.68m. I do not have the measurements for the individual sections of the building, but is a standard 4 flats (two flats up and two flats down), with each flat made up of 3 bedrooms with master bedroom being en suite, 1 bathroom/toilet, 1 visitor's toilet, living/dining room, kitchen, and small store. I am not after an accurate figure, just an estimate so that I have an idea of what it should be and thus not exploited by the artisans.

With regards to existing drainage, I am not too sure, but it is on a street with other residential buildings, and having residential buildings either side of the plot.

With regards to the septic tank and soak away pit, below is the plan with area for both indicated by the red arrow. Thank you

I will be grateful if I could get some advise regarding the following please.
The building is four flats of 3 bedroom flats (the usual two flats up and two flats down) located in Sango, Ota Ogun State.

(1) How many bags of cement roughly will be required to plaster the interior, and labour cost?
(2) How many bags of cement roughly will be required to plaster the interior ceiling (ground floor only), and labour cost?
(3) How many bags of cement to plaster the inside of the boundary wall/fence (wall surrounds two plots), and labour cost?
(4) Balancing cost and durability, what kind of surfacing should I do for the compound? I do not need anything fanciful, just something practical, durable and best value for money.
(5) What size septic tank will I require and roughly how much will that cost?

Thank you.

rabcnesbit:
A quick question my people. How many bags of cement (estimate) will be required to plaster the interior of a 3-bed flat (3 bedrooms, one en-suite, toilet and bathroom, kitchen, living/dinning room, small store). Thank you.

My peeps, nobody able to assist me with my question above?

Also, with the price of cement being Dangote N2700, Lafarge N2650, and Elephant N2600, is there any particular reason why one can't use the cheaper Elephant as opposed to the more expensive (but popular) Dangote? And what is the difference between Dangote 42.5R and 52.5R?

Why the price of cement is still this high baffles me, as these prices were set when the naira was very low against £ and $ (about N600 to £1) and that was the reason given for the high prices of cement and other building materials. The naira has since appreciated significantly for many months now (about N455 to £1 at present), so what is their excuse now!

Thank you.

A quick question my people. How many bags of cement (estimate) will be required to plaster the interior of a 3-bed flat (3 bedrooms, one en-suite, toilet and bathroom, kitchen, living/dinning room, small store). Thank you.