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Hello. There does not seem to be much information about uPVC windows. Anybody has experience using them. Are they cheaper than aluminum, and are they durable? Thank you

rabcnesbit:
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Okay, found another link that worked

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Muyesky:
A nairalander ordered burglary embedded casement windows and block glass in Obada, Abeokuta, Ogun state.

Mr Muyesk, would you be able to give an estimate for aluminum casement window with burglary bar and fly screen. Sizes below. Thank you

1800 (L) x 1200 (H)
1500 (L) x 1200 (H)
1200 (L) x 500 (H)
1500 (L) x 1100 (H)
900 (L) x 500 (H) - projecting window for toilet
600 (L) x 500 (H) - projecting window for store

diordaves:
All in one casement windows can be 30 percent cheaper or more and will serve the same purpose security wise. This cost saving is not to be snift at.

Aesthetically, to me it's​ aslo more appealing as the colour of the bar blends with the colour of the casement. An integrated whole.

The protrusion of the burglary bar if done separately will pose a slight design and aesthetics challenge with the pop finish especially if one did two courses after lintel. The upper level of the window wall is not flushed to showcase the beauty of the pop. The burglary proof can be an aesthetic disruption.

Again if burglary proof is done separately, one precludes the use of the lower level of the window especially in the kitchen and bathroom. So one may struggle to store stuff like washing up liquid, soap, containers by the window.

All in one casement window is quicker to install with better results to my reckoning. But that's just me.

Okay, thanks for the advice. What do you think about the fly screen/mosquito net?

EgunMogaji:
You'll have to look at it in totality. That window may have a purpose there for perhaps cross flows.

I don't have a window in my pantry but that was designed that way from the beginning.

Okay, thanks. I suppose I might just have to leave it as per the plan and bear the cost

On a different note. Somebody mentioned to me that burglary proof/bars done separately is better and more durable that the ones incorporated in the window. What are your opinions guys? All-in-one casement window (window+burglary bars) or installing burglary bars separately? Thanks

EgunMogaji:
4 small windows equals maybe 50k, not an outstanding savings imho.

Hi. Thanks for your reply. Blocking up the 4 window spaces though should not cost more than 10k I reckon, so still saving myself about 40k. My question really is that is a window actually necessary for a small store in a flat?

EgunMogaji:
Still not going to click it.

Okay, on a different topic. I have got to the stage of installing windows to my building. The number of windows is 56!!! As I am planning on going for casement windows with inbuilt burglary proof and mosquito netting/screen, this will cost me a few bob! So I am looking at reducing the number of windows. The draughtsman that drew the plan for me drew windows for the small stores (one store per flat; block of 4 flats), so that's 4 store windows I could potentially get rid off, as I do not see the reason for a window in a small store in a flat? Or an I wrong, is it definitely needed?

EgunMogaji:
Not going to click on that shady link but yes scambut you knew that already

No, the site is actually jiji. I am just curious because there are a few of them advertising for about N900 on the site, in the midst of others advertising it for between N2350 - N2650

Why is a bag of 50kg Dangote cement being advertised on sites like https:///165-cement from about N900, when it retails outside for up to N2700 per bag. Is this a scam!!! I am confused.

Roofed. All praises to God!

TAJIBADE:
can we know thr financial implication till this stage. Thanks

Building alone (that is materials and labour), excluding (purchase of land, building plan, C of O, settling omonile, periodic clearing of vegetation, tips here and there, and other miscellaneous) comes to approximately N10,521,000

Memejem:
Any update?

All glory be to God Almighty! By his grace and will, we have got it to roofing level. Next stage is roofing. My current dilemma is I am leaning towards slate (life span) roofing as opposed to the popular aluminum roofing. Only issue is that slates available so far are just light gray or red in colour. There does not seem to be aa variety of colours when it comes to slates!

Unfortunately, a combination of persistent rainfall and the recent heavy hike in the price of cement have slowed things down a bit. Will update when building work restarts in due course.

Funmiladey:
This is a good and neat job well done, you can tell your engineer to contact me for supply of granite, any quantity and quality even stone dust can be supplied. Call/ WhatsApp : 07060523918.

Thank you.

First image: filling of laterite, ramming of laterite and laying of BRC completed (materials and labour = N458,000)
Second image: German floor completed (materials and labour = N749,500)

Delafruita:
just a few pointers...For borehole, better to go with submersible because of the water table in that environment. You can get a good machine in lagos so no need of importing it.

What horsepower and make/models should I look out for? Thanks

cmax16:
[OP said he is building "a block of 4 3-bed flat"! Why are you guys comparing with cost from a single 3-bed flat? Una no do comprehension for school ni?

quote author=ijeshaboy post=48293733]I think OP is been ripped off although I didn't do DPC but the total amount I spent from foundation to this roofing level is around 680 thousand naira, and I only went to d site once because am in far north and the building is in ibadan, the person handling it is not my family member. Note: I never allow him to handle any site material procurement I have those people selling cement and sand number and I mould the block, the only money I gave him is for the iron rod for the lintel casting I used nairaland experience with him althrough. Just concluded it yest.

Thank you for pointing this out (block of 4 x 3-bed flats). I was begining to get worried when people started saying I have spent (and been quoted) way too much!

ocean77:
At bolded. No wonder the price is relatively too cheap for your design been a draughtsman. This are the people spoiling market for us. Meanwhile God will see you through. Amen.

Point taken. However, this is just a box-standard 4 x 3bed flats I am building, not some grand architectural design. I see no reason to pay an Architect for something a draughtsman can do for about half the price. The draughtsman need work to survive as well doesn't he? As long as the building and structural plans have been approved.

fagbohun4j:
May the good Lord that saw me through mine see you through. Building a house isn't an easy thing bro. Just be full of prayers and make sure you have a soldier friend in case of omo onile wahala.

Thank you bro. Wish I had a soldier friend!

UEDIBO:
THIS MONEY U HAVE SPENT CAN RAISE IT UP TO LINTEL LEVEL IN MY PLACE.

Where is your place

olatoyib:
Nice one. God will make it easy 4 u to completion on time. pls what is difference between doing surveying and updating surveying plan?

I am not sure. I know a survey was done many years ago after I bought the land. Then when it came to drawing the building plan and submitting it for aproval, I was advised that the survey plan needed updating to meet current requirements etc

AreaFada2:
Good. You are on FP now. You will likely get more useful comments;

But one advice: make sure you do find time to go see it yourself.

If possible be there during decking/slab or any other crucial stage.

This is no matter of trust or mistrust.

I have had costs inflated by up to 120% by a trusted person/pastor.

Be it artificially doubling surface area to be coated with German floor or dubiously doubling area to be covered by tiles.
I found out too late. Only when I sent other people/engineers to take measurements that I found out. The quotes just seemed out of place.

Clearly foundation material, cement bags, blocks said to have been used, nogging wood for roof when checked later by a builder, he said such quantity certainly was not needed for the size of house.
Instead of explaining how he used so much material, just admitting he lied, he stormed out and abandoned the project. Causing a rift.

That is life for you.
If you need to do a project in absentia, use a professional builder. There are some really great guys here on NL. Spyder880 is one.

Good luck.

Thank you for the advice. Yes I do plan to go and check it myself sometime soon. I have somebody 'project managing' it for me and I get a relative to check up from time to time. However, you are right, one cannot trust anybody in Naija. However, one good thing about modern technology is that it is very easy to take pictures of the work on mobile phone and send it to me. Also, the quotation is broken down in details, listing the amount/number of materials etc required. I know it to an extent it is an estimamtion and sometimes they might require more than estimated. However, if you estimated for example you require 1000 blocks, and now require say 50-100 blocks extra, that could be understandable. If you, however, say you require 500 - 1000 blocks extra, then something is seriously wriong and I would be strongly questioning that!

adebayosun02:
I can assure you professionally that you av started on a wrong note cos the survey fee of 35k is a fake survey wch might jeoperdise the entire documentation process. Mind you, d survey serves as d basis of all the development you intend to make. D minimum survey fee in Ogun State is 80-120k wch will av d proper survey done with appropriate record (red copy) submitted @oke mosan Abeokuta. For a quick check, direct your handler to send to you the copy of evidence of record submission @ appropriate land n records office in abeokuta

I think the fee of N35k was to update the original survey which was done quite some years ago.

spence002:
Weldone, my brother, pray God see u through this project. I have read so many comments on this trend but i still want to maintain that most of these cost are still within acceptable bracket. Regarding cost of block, let me state here that i resides around alakuko which is less than 7mins drive from sango/ota. 9" blocks are currently being sold between 145 and 160 naira depends on ur bargaining strenght and the quantity you are buying. Also on the omo onile payments, its normal norm in this axis as even i have to part with 250k in 2011 when i was laying my house foundation, however move money will still be demanded as u proceed, Lord will help you out. At milestones like german floor, decking, roofing and others, they will still come for payment.

Regarding Borehole drilling, let me say, its one of my area of speciality, i have done alot of project in this field within and outside this axis. It's true you need to do underground geo survey to arcertain sub soil formation and aquifer level. However, you also need to be sure if you are drilling for industrial or domestic usage. If it industrial, definately you have to do the survey but for domestic, the luck people in this area have is that we can take cognisant from other wells bore within ur area or if your driller have basic knowledge of that area he can get yours done without spending on geo survey test. I have done mine since 2011 and even more for people around sango, agbado, ipaja, ota, itele and so on without a survey and i have never recorded any failure till date. This is not to say that all location couuld be drill without a survey report but i maintain that sango ota is as good as done without it. If you need us to give u a quotation for your location, pls contact Zenith Technical Services on 08034949794, 08056267545 and email zenithts@yahoo.com. We will visit the location and give you a very competitive cost proposal to include a good pump and various options to power the pump for you to select from.

Goodluck as you move on with your dream. Thx and God bless you

Thank you sir for your advice. The borehole person I have seen so far is somebody that have done in that area as well for some number of people and he proclaims to know the area. He has quoted (or we bargained him down) to 200k (inclusive of everything and pumping machine). 170k if I want to provide my own pumping machine, which I was thinking of doing (buying and shipping it abroad, at least that way I know what I am buying )

Every single person, I thank you for your encouragement and advice and I am most grateful. Let me address some points raised:

1) Started thread months ago and have not posted or updated much. I apologise for this. The paper work just took longer than I anticipated. In hindsight, I should have waited for the paper work to complete before I started the thread.
2) Some people say the quotes given is too much. I requested and compared quotes from three completely different building contractors and they all came roughly about the same. Unless I am just unlucky and all three contractors have some how colluded to scam me.
3) Some people say the DPC level is too low. I will mention this to the building contractor and the person that drew the plan. However, is this not too late (ie. already covered with laterite? Sorry for my ignorance if I am wrong)
4) Some people have suggested that it would have been better (and cheaper?) to just buy already developed property in an estate. I do wonder about this myself, but I am not so sure, and don't forget this is a block of 4 flats, not just a flat or duplex.

Obviously this will be a slow and not too exciting thread (after all what is exciting about building a block of 4 flats, and I am sure there other many similar threads). However, I set the thread up to document my journey doing such a project from miles away abroad and for others to learn from my experience and for me to also benefit from other people's experience/advice/tips. Peace be onto you all and God bless!

Filling of laterite completed. Next stage will be casting of german floor.

So, thinking of starting the borehole. Would appreciate some advice/tips regarding the type/model/power of submersible water pump to buy, and whether better and cheaper to by it in Naija or ship it from abroad? Also I have heard of solar-powered water pumps, anybody has any advice about these, is there a submersible version, costs to purchase and install etc? Many thanks

Hello my peeps. Sorry been a while, been waiting for the plan approval, which is now done and work has now started. So far up to filling and ramming of laterite:

Paper work
To update survey plan = N35,000
Architectural plan = N75,000
Printing of plans = N5000
Structural engineering drawings = N50,000
Stamp duty on land receipt = N30,000
Tax clearance certificate = N35,600
Assessment fees = N89,725
Processing fee (basically greasing officials' palms each step of the way) = N35,000
Transaction fee (don’t exactly what this is for) = N10,000
Omonile = N200,000
Some other ancillary spendings totalling about N107,000
Total = N672,325


Building work

(1) Foundation to DPC
(i) Digging of foundation N 60,000.00
(ii) Casting of foundation concrete including pillars footing
Casting of foundation floor i.e. blinding (0.075M)3inches
(a) 15 tonnes granite N 65,000.00
(b) 20 tonnes sand N 45,000.00
(c) 45 bags cement N 74,250.00
(d) Labour

Reinforcement for foundation pillars footings
(a) 37 length of 16mm iron rod for pillar footings N 92,500.00
(b) 20 length of 12mm iron rod for pillar rings N 28,000.00
(c)18 length of iron rod for pillar rings N 18,000.00
(d) 1 full roll of binding wire N 6,500.00
(e) Welder (labour) N 45,000.00

Casting of pillar to DPC level
(a) 39 inch board of somi wood N 42,900.00
(b) 40 pieces of 2 by 3 wood N 14,000.00
(c) 3 inch nails full bag N 7,000.00
(d) Carpenter charges (Labour) N 35,000.00

(iii) Setting of blocks to DPC level
(a) 1400 blocks of 9inches N 224,000.00
(b) 22 bags of cement N 36,300.00
(c) 20 tonnes sharp sand N 45,000.00
(d) Brick layers charges (Labour) N 88,500.00


(iv) Filling & ramming of Laterite
(a) 16 trucks of 20 tonnes laterite sand N 368,000.00
(b) Packing of laterite sand N 80,000.00
(c) Rammer machine N 10,000.00

Total = N1,384,950

adeekiti:
It is well Sir , God will see u through. Omo onile things too can be frustrating beginning from foundation Money. Success sir

Thank you bro.

johnson232:
@bold lol...

what abt the developmental fee and architectural drawings approvals?

All I have listed is what the Architect (well more a draughtsman) identified to me (well so far) as required for the an approved building plan.

Following now done:

Structural engineering drawings = N50,000
Stamp duty on land receipt = N30,000
Tax clearance certificate = N35,600
Assessment fees = N89,725
Processing fee (basically greasing officials' palms each step of the way) = N35,000
Transaction =N10,000

So far, total for documents/plan/survey/drawings = N360,325. I have not even laid a block yet!