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Excuzeme:
So, in total, he quoted 180 + 900 + 150 = #1,230,000 (One Million, Two hundred and thirty thousand Niara... to plaster a Standard Dour Flats!
The Lord is good, all the time.
Anyway, its all good.

But going forward, what you should have done is bargain on ALL PLASTERING WORK for the whole building first,
After the price is agreed, you then break the toatl cost down by allocating "cost" to each of the above areas (Decking, Inside, Outside), from the total cost.

That Bricklayer don hammer!

NB: Inside Plastering, to outside plastering is mostly, usually about ration 3:1.
That is, 65% - 75% Cost for Inside and 25% - 35% Cost for outside plastering.

Scaffold: You will but the Bamboo yourself (it cost roughly #150 - #200 each), You will buy Binding Wire of about 2-3 Bundles
Construction/Erection should be between 30K - 45k, depending on your negotiating power

Thanks for the advice

kopell:
Men how big is this your house, did it include fence in and out?

No, does not include fence. It's a standard size block of four 3-bedroom flats.

Excuzeme:
While l agree that different Artisans have different level of competency and skill set, l think there is a minimum standard we all expect from such job (smooth, well-angled where necessary and on time), irrespective of how much the Artisan wants to charge!

I think it is always wrong to equate Quality of Work .... to how hefty the Labour Charge will be. It is NOT directly proportional.
Greed by some Artisans means they will just be very extortionist while the competency is in question.
We have seen many examples of these sort of Greed, among our "Builder/Contractors" in this section..... except for a few who have distinguished themselves while not charging heaven and earth at he same time.


@rabcnesbit: Are you telling me that he initially charged you 900K....... without the OUTSIDE PLASTER involved?
I am sure the guy sees you as a novice and is taking advantage of you.
How can you negotiate outside and inside plaster, separately?

Bottom line, it all depends on your power of negotiation.
But dont forget to document everything and let him sign his signature (or record the conversation on your phone) and spell out the payment tranches, explicitly. Every Contractor is not Spyder that is honest and has dignity.

Experience is always a good teacher. I sense you are not versed in these things and that is the type of person they enjoy cheating.

Thanks for the advice. Yes, he initially quoted them separately, as we were doing the work in stages. Quoted 180k for plastering the decking (inside ceiling), which he has already done and paid. Then 900k for interior and 150k for the exterior, which made no sense to me (ie. the big difference between the labour for interior and exterior). Anyway, we now negotiated to include both the exterior and interior for 900k. On another matter, any idea what I should be looking to pay for scaffolding for the exterior plastering work, as this is not part of the labour for the plastering?

Excuzeme:
I think it is way too much. Or does it involve materials?
A 10ft x 10ft (or 12ft x 12ft wall as the case maybe) wall is considered a day's job, at a day's rate. (#2,500 t0 #3,000)
Use this to gauge or estimate what you think is reasonable.

But 4 flats of 3Bed house should not be more than 500K....... 700K maximum, if it is a very large building of same configuration.
I finished one in the heat of "Dollar ni o", early this year and it was 580K but the supervision, na-die!
I wont recommend the Bricklayer to anyone (dishonest, trying to steal materials)
'Location' can vary it by 5- 10%.

Hello, thanks for the response. It's just labour, no materials included, not even the scaffolding! I have negotiated hard and he agreed to include the exterior in the price as well, so 900k for both interior and exterior.

Hello house. Anybody able to recommend a welder that does steel doors, hand railings for stairs, and railings for balconies, and can deliver to Sango Ota? Thank you

rabcnesbit:
Good evening house. I got a quote of N900k for labour just to plaster the interior of my building at Sango Ota ( 4 x 3 bedroom flats). Is this reasonable or excessive? Thank you

Anybody able to advise on the above, please?

Good evening house. I got a quote of N900k for labour just to plaster the interior of my building at Sango Ota ( 4 x 3 bedroom flats). Is this reasonable or excessive? Thank you

Fogman:
Hello house, please I need insight about stamp duty. Got a land and all documents signed. My lawyer advice i do stamp duty and really need to know more about it, cost and process of getting it done. My lawyer charged me N120k which I presume is on the high side. Please I need advice. Thanks.

Did mine early last year, so prices might have gone up a bit. The land is in Sango Ota and the plan was for a block of 4 x 3bed flats. I paid 36k to sort out tax clearance certificates (as I am in diaspora) and 30k for the stamp duty. By the way, this was for stamp duty alone.

skimanski:
call kazeem on 07065792203

Thank you very much.

skimanski:
I bought N8,500 in AJah last week.

Thank you. Got contact fo the shop?

Just wondering if somebody happens to know the price of a bag of 4-inch nails in Lagos right now. Just a bit confused as the prices on https://www.set2build.com/market-prices show it as N6,500 in Lekki/Ajah, and someone just told me its N11,800 in Sango Ota!

lordmizzy:
This life shaaaa, some would be interested if they get the offer to be part oo, but they will be pretending here .. people never trust wife finish na girl person cum trust..

Don't think the issue is whether you will be interested in being in that position of bedding 9 girls (that's if you do have the stamina ), it is the crass tasteless need to post it on social media! I suppose in a perverted way, it has achieved its purpose - to generate traffic and publicity (we are now wasting our precious time talking/writing about it and that way he's getting more publicity!). And that is, unfortunately, the vicious circle of the media/social media. People do things to generate publicity (bad or good publicity, doesn't matter). And talking and writing about it makes it self-fulfilling (objective achieved)! So, in a way, we are all guilty, as we the public provide the platform for these sort of people to propagate their tasteless material/behavior of no social utility!

AnonyNymous:
Its not like he's just a 'Lagos Big Boy'. He's a IndecentStar. He acts pornos. He has videos on pornhub and his exclusive site as well. So that's his job. He's just like Mia Khalifa, except he's only well known in Nigeria but I bet he has foreign customers too. So if you're going to criticise him, do so on the basis of him being a IndecentStar and not just because he's rich and stuff.

Okay, that makes more sense (if that is his job)!

What a shallow, empty and unfulfilled life if you have to engage the services of multiple prostitutes on a daily basis to post on social media to show you are a 'big boy'! Of course, people like him probably got his money from 419 or embezzlement! But like the saying goes, money can never buy class!

Like your white front door. I take it's steel. What is the size and how much did that cost sir?

diordaves:
If you've got calipher, it could be done albeit tricky. Do this during construction. If they deliver to site and the measurements don't meet specification, what would you do? Reject the work? Then your problem starts here.

Not too sure how practical it is to actually go to start measuring it during construction at where it is being constructed. Even if this was possible, it could still be switched between when you measured and when it's delivered if the fabricator is determined So, a more practical solution is probably to warn the fabricator beforehand that you will be measuring the thickness of the glass on delivery and any discrepancy will result in forfeiture of his balance

diordaves:
DO NOT, Repeat do not use so called 4mm glass. As with all metric measure in Nigeria, it's actually 3mm. The so called 4mm (3mm) is fragile, intricate so breaks easily which is wasteful. 4mm (3mm) glass in wrong hands is an after instalment challenge to the home owner or tenants as the rubber seal between the glass and the alum frame go skwed in no time with the sharp edges of the glass exposed.

As casement/sliding windows in Nigeria are rerely double glazed, 4mm (3mm) is a very poor noise dampener. So if your Gen Set is behind your window, the noise can be deafening.

Go for a thicker glass: 10mm to start with. If you struggle to achieve this, it should be well over 5mm.

Okay, thank you very much for the advice. And when the windows are made/delivered, is it easy and straightforward to measure the thickness to confirm the thickness, as Nigerians being Nigerians you are never sure you are getting what you paid for!

Good morning all and I wish well. Got some quotes for my alum windows. The cheapest (in fact quite a big saving compared to others) is using 4mm thick glass. With the expensive quotes, some are using 4mm and others 5mm glass. One of them is advising against using 4mm glass! What do you guys think? Is using 4mm glass going to be a costly mistake?

erico2k2:
forex keep going up, the £ gained N10 lastnight to make it N475.

No forex keep going down, the naira was about N620 to £1 not long ago!

EgunMogaji:
Very nice designs.

I'm not really into fruity flowery designs so I'm sort of settled in on this for now.

The gaps between those bars seem a bit wide. A very skinny child might be able to squeeze through that!

mufutau55:
Please listen to those two guys.. that is why you are in Nairaland; to learn.

Hajji M.

It is not that I am not listening, it's just the wood is already on site and paid for, and the carpenters are about to start cutting it. The advice, which I am thankful for, unfortunately, came slightly too late

oyb:
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9,Oba Akran Avenue, Ikeja, Lagos.
Telephone : +234 (0) 8171229683
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Available Monday to Friday: 9am to 5pm
Email : info@towerplc.com

http://www.towerplc.com/towerroofings/long_span_roofing_sheet.pdf

Sir, thank you for your response. I have checked their site already and just checked the link you provided, but still no information about the different types of aluminum profile for windows. The link you attached just gave info about roofing sheets

Mayor78:
Malina is a cheapwood and performs very badly against termites and other wood insects even after wood treatment. I have previously had very bad experience with malina, termites finished my roof woodwork, doors and door frames. I wouldnt say of using its performance on other furnitures but for door, door frames, or roofing especially in termmite or wood ant infested areas, it's no.no no for me. Decision yours though.

Ahh! Thank you for the advice. Unfortunately came too late. I have already paid them and the wood has been delivered!

oyb:
Tower aluminum has a website where you can get the info and contact information of their sales guys. No need for a go between.

Did check their website; the first thing I did, but the site did not have much info (if any at all) about the different aluminum profiles for windows!

rabcnesbit:
My peoples, from what I can gather, it would appear Nigerian aluminum profile for windows is costlier but apparently better than imported ones! There appear to be various types mainly Tower economy, Tower standard, Tower quality, and one also called EBM. What are your opinions regarding these - which should I go for in terms of balancing value for money and durability? Many thanks

My people, nobody has any advice to give? Also, which one is Tower Decor, just got a quote from somebody for this? Thank you

My peoples, from what I can gather, it would appear Nigerian aluminum profile for windows is costlier but apparently better than imported ones! There appear to be various types mainly Tower economy, Tower standard, Tower quality, and one also called EBM. What are your opinions regarding these - which should I go for in terms of balancing value for money and durability? Many thanks

diordaves:
If it includes the final finish and the laite work for the architrave, then 7k per frame is good. But this is average price. It may be more depending on the sophistication of your build. The truth is tradesmen will invoice you relative to the level of finish you are aiming for. So if you're putting up a cut and join kind of build, tradesmen will tend to invoice you less. I'm currently putting together my wooden doors in Warri Delta State for Mahogany wood, the cost is just under 8k per frame finish and to hang the doors is 3.7k per door.

So ask if your 11k includes hanging. I will advice you do it per frame. Don't bother with material, deliver frame as specified at say 9k finish.

Now does he need two pieces per frame? The answer is no and yes. So ask for the drawings​, labelling and measurements of the frame and everything will become clearer.

Hi, just quickly, so what do you think of this malina (or is it melina) wood? He claims it's the best in quality? Thanks

diordaves:
If it includes the final finish and the laite work for the architrave, then 7k per frame is good. But this is average price. It may be more depending on the sophistication of your build. The truth is tradesmen will invoice you relative to the level of finish you are aiming for. So if you're putting up a cut and join kind of build, tradesmen will tend to invoice you less. I'm currently putting together my wooden doors in Warri Delta State for Mahogany wood, the cost is just under 8k per frame finish and to hang the doors is 3.7k per door.

So ask if your 11k includes hanging. I will advice you do it per frame. Don't bother with material, deliver frame as specified at say 9k finish.

Now does he need two pieces per frame? The answer is no and yes. So ask for the drawings​, labelling and measurements of the frame and everything will become clearer.

Many thanks for the advice

diordaves:
That quote will translate to N11,600 per frame which could be more. Now does the quote include architrave and final polish? What's the make of the wood? Mahogany? Give more details if you may but door frames should not be more than 5k abeg.

Normally is cost per frame so you should not worry yourself with the nitty gritty of the materials.

Hello. He says the wood is malina, includes final polish, and the 'plyanning sawing and moling' (to be done at the saw mill) is for the architrave. One thing want to know in particular is that does he need 2 pieces of 2 x 12 x 12 wood per frame as quoted? Thanks

Spy360:
Guys some youths came to where I was developing and asked me to pay 'development levy' of N300,000. After negotiations they brought it down to N150,000. I am still skeptical about this amount if that is what is obtainable in other places. Kindly advice. Thank you.

Just as you have already been advised, it is paramount you establish that you are dealing with the right group ('omo nile'), else you end up being approached by different groups looking to extort. The amount is determinable by the area, how greedy the extortionist are etc Be prepared to pay more eventually as I will be damned if this will be their final demand, as their modus operandi is to demand at every stage of the building work - foundation, decking, roofing, plastering etc They are no different to the likes of the Italian Mafia, Chinese Triads, Russian Mafia etc protection racketeers! As a comparable, I paid 250k for foundation and 240k for decking for mine in Sango Ota, and waiting to be slapped with further demands!!!

diordaves:
That quote will translate to N11,600 per frame which could be more. Now does the quote include architrave and final polish? What's the make of the wood? Mahogany? Give more details if you may but door frames should not be more than 5k abeg.

Normally is cost per frame so you should not worry yourself with the nitty gritty of the materials.

Thank you for your response. Will go and find out more info as you suggested. By the way, forgot to mention the location is Ota in Ogun State

I greet you all. It is the stage when the frames for the internal doors (36 doors in total) in my building need installing. I got the following quote. Is it reasonable or am I being taking for ride? Thank you