₦airaland Forum

sukkot:
i didnt use astrology to attempt to predict the return of obama. lol i dont know where you got that. the return of obama was something i predicted by reading the trends in the book of judges ( by the way there is a barak in the book of judges lol ) about the fall of empires and the trends. plus he was the 44th president. the number 44 is a number associated with changes, paradigm changes etc etc. So these are watchmen observations of world trends and goings on.

i think the name astrology has been bastardised and is throwing you off. we shall call it astro-theology

You mean Obama will return?

As what?

Secretary of State?

analice107:
You just indicated that you are delusional and a Jack Ass for always jumping into Christian threads to insult their non existing God.

I'm sure I enclosed a part of that comment in quotes.
Look again.

butterflylion:
Your nonsensical nature is sickening! It's pretty obvious at this point that the purpose of the thread is beyond your scope of reasoning. Sorry I mentioned your moniker.

For lack of anything else you have to sensibly offer Abeg dab your way out.

I don't disagree. The thread is beyond me.
Enjoy your party.

I know say you don see work. Oya continue. Ode!!!

felixomor:
Yeah.baskets have Functions other than intellectual talk.

You think this is intellectual talk?
I'm not surprised.

felixomor:
Baskets dont retain water.

Baskets still have a function. Can't say the same for Ms.

dblackninja:
Lol! About to hatch?
Oh my good gracious God!! Say hello to your people so that they won't hatch into adults

What?

Tonyosas101:
True, I did learn from his research & I bet you also gained from it as well

What I don't get is the connection between the question, objective & the answer

He could have just post the answer alone as the original post instead

I did not gain jack. All I saw was a copy and paste description of water and godidit.

Tonyosas101:
I'm probably a slow learner cos you still didn't quote me with the question (main objective) & the answer to it
No offence bro & thanks for the replies

I thought he said you have learnt from it.
Is it not the same thing I've been asking him?
Don't put your hopes up.

butterflylion:
The person you quoted is obviously smarter than you. He quickly adapted and admitted he did no research as I recommended but also admitted to learning from it.

Your comment to him still shows you have not followed my comments on the thread and my deliberate hints.

Your desperation go soon wear pampers

Gerarahere men.

Tonyosas101:
I need a little favor from you OP

please quote me with the main or real question & the main or real answer to it

Please

Lol
You go wait tire.

Ayo001:
How does not believing in God improve or better your lives now?

Ermm...ermmm...10% savings.

butterflylion:
You say. Afterall I said "research" several times on the thread and "go back to the beginning" also several times.

Conclusive unbiased research on the origin of water should give you the answer you seek

Mtchewww....

butterflylion:
Where did you see me mention God at any time at the start of this thread?

I simply wanted an open and unbiased discussion but kept asking everyone to go back to the beginning .

Stop projecting oga weyrey

Okay no vex.
In two sentences, what is the answer to the question?

butterflylion:
I dey wait
By the way here is what you and ranchhoddas failed to see on the thread

Gerarahere men. You have nothing.

butterflylion:
You still refuse to follow the thread ba? If you refuse to follow it especially when you knew I was deliberately dropping hints then Abeg waka go far

Weyrey.
So you invite atheists to a thread and you expect them to follow your hints (whatever that means) to the conclusion that godidit?
Very interesting.

PastorAIO:
Matters may be further complicated by the fact that it is quite hard to distinguish subjective projections and wishful thinking from objective observations. Do you see what is there or just what you want to see?

This in itself can be further complicated by the fact that you can actually influence objectivity whereby what you want and imagine actual becomes what is out there.

There are even some theories that suggest that they are all just projections of the mind.

Heck, there are even theories that all of reality including the physical 'plane' are just a projection of the mind's contents.

Lol.
You are right.
It almost makes atheism comfortable.

butterflylion:
Let's assume there is no water anywhere on earth. No streams, rivers, lakes, ponds, seas and oceans.

Let's assume rain does not fall and we never experience evaporation and Condensation and plants do not need water to thrive but humans do.

Now let's apply critical thinking.

How would the whole world be able to survive without water? Are we or science capable of manufacturing water on a large scale, the kind that would sustain the entire world?

If water was not already available and by pure "coincidence" as science often alludes is able to always be available even though the process of water creation is extremely complex and volatile yet nature somehow was able to achieve this feat unaided (according to science).

How would man be able to manufacture (create) water for the entire world?

Hint: before you make your comment please read up on water creation first.

May the critical thinkers now show themselves

You asked here...
How would man be able to manufacture (create) water for the whole world?
Where is the answer to this question in your post?

butterflylion:
Hahahaha you are totally lost. Even after I said follow my hints on the thread here you are still posting absolute rubbish. The mor0n here is you in a colourful way

Please highlight the part where water gets created. Just that part.
Thank you.

butterflylion:
So why did you post the above if you had not first read it?

This post was supposed to come first. Wetin dey worry you sef?

butterflylion:
I guess you never followed my hints. No wonder you kept waiting and asking for answer.

If you followed you would have seen where I said "I deliberately asked the question as a throw off but the answer is in the beginning "

Now the beginning is clearly the origin of water. And I said research but nobody cared do that except one person and their research was problematic. Go ahead and read through the thread properly.

So in that world the citizens will start to pray for water right?
Or have you forgotten your OP already?

I don't blame you though.
I blame the fools that are always liking your posts.
They are the real tragedy.
Bunch of M0RONS.

butterflylion:
Ranchhoddas you came, you saw and then you vanished You get sore throat?

Will I not read it first?

butterflylion:
Ranchhoddas you came, you saw and then you vanished You get sore throat?

No vex abeg.
Which part of your that thing you wrote up there explains how to create water in a world where there is no water. Or was that not the initial question?
Please highlight it for me.
Did you keep this thread for days just to tell us ''godidit" or is there something I'm missing?
Help me out please.

NPComplete:
So how do u explain the lack of consensus?
Here we have two guys I respect a lot Sarassin and Billyonaire but both can't seem to agree on what's what. Or the basic tenets of esoterica.
So are we to believe they are both right or they are both wrong?

As a deist, I am a bit inclined to believe the universe is undergirded by certain laws that, when properly studied or understood, could produce supposed supernatural effects. But as a skeptic, I ask myself if any of these practioners can withstand scrutiny.

If we subject them to the same inquiry that we have made of Abrahamic religions, what will we find? It is easy for anyone to come online and make claims or debunk other people's claims; anyone can claim his own esoteric way is the right way and explain it away with bombast, the psychological effect is just too alluring, but can any of them really prove these things?
Can they astra project and tell us, with proof, what otherwise impossible knowledge they were able to glean? Can they really "smoke" someone, like LoJ claimed to be able to do and statistically be right?

I seek knowledge and such knowledge should be well tested and proven for me to believe it. And I think our common apathy towards organize religions make us less likely to dispute what these fringe religions or practices preach.
Trust me, the day any of these guys are able to really show me they can do the things they claim, I will be the first to start following their prescribed method.
We must push them to prove themselves and things like "ignore scoffers" make them look like the organise religion they abhor.

Everything must be questioned and proved.

The lack of consensus could be a case of 7 blind men trying to describe an elephant. Very unlikely in my opinion and in any case would mean that an elephant is present.

Regardless of the differences, there are a lot of similarities in what they all teach and personally that is what I try to focus on.
About scrutiny, I think that the people who really have the real deal have no interest in proving anything to anyone. If anyone is offering you proof of anything, chances are that they are a fraud.
There is a saying in these circles...
WHEN THE STUDENT IS READY, THE MASTER APPEARS.
Perhaps you/we are joust not ready.

[quote author=Hosannahts than your thoughts” (Isaiah 55:7-9)[/quote]Surely you did not expect anyone to read that.

Tonyosas101:
OP, please stop whatever you're doing right now & solve the main objective of this post for us to see

Or you can at least tell us the day the answer will be out


Nah wah ooo

There is no answer. At least no sensible one.
The thread was a distraction.

Amberon11:
Thats what you implied.

I am responsible for what I type. You are responsible for what you understand.

butterflylion:
This would be my very last response to you if you continue with this 4evernonsense trolling of yours. Are you forcing your confusion on me? Haba!

It won't change anything.

NPComplete:
I am beginning to believe u don't believe half of the things these guys peddle be it claims of knowledge of the esoteric, wisdoms from the ethereal or the pseudoscientific woowoo that the New Age guys espouse. You just like egging them on as a way to have fun.
I believe u don't believe anything per se. Hearing them talk is like reading a Tolkien novel to u.

..."but then Mormont saw them. You saw them. And I trust the words of an honest man more than what everybody knows...." Tyrion Lannister talking to Jon Snow on why he believes that the White Walkers are real.


In my case we will have to replace "honest man" with "erudite man".

The reason atheists and other skeptics alike give for their position is lack of evidence and a rather vain appeal to their intellects.
They often mock believers as "unlearned" and "deluded".

But when you look at some of the guys who hold these "superstitions", they are among the most intellectual around.
Apart from Plaett.on and maybe Agent.ofAllah, all the people on this forum who are scholarly (not Google knowledge) all believe in one esoteric thing or the other.
So it is either they are all deluded (which makes no sense anyway I try to look at it) or there really is something there.
I am inclined to go with the latter.
So in the words of The Dragon Queen, "perhaps we should all start to examine the things we think we know"...


PS: I prefer GRRM. I've never read Tolkien.

Dr M you don start?

butterflylion:
Ol boy e na me get all this venom? Lmao.

Good fences do not make good neighbours oga. Good neighbours make good neighbours fence or no fence.

You speak of the occult and expect to get a free pass? Dude there is also a saying that "if you find something worth dying for, then fight for it". I have found something worth dying for and it sure ain't the occult but it is totally against the occult so when you post your bunch of crap for the gullible to lick and swallow up its only expected that you get some sort of resistance or are you against criticism? Are the demonic entities at work through your tongue and fingers against criticism? If they are then they should ask you to stop posting anything.

Meanwhile I saw nowhere in my posts where I insulted you. I clearly stated my observations and opinions and if you found them to be insults and offended by them then it means I am totally right.

Like I said, you just got a fan and if you do not like your growing fan base then stop posting.

I honestly do not care if you chose to stand on your head and do a triple cartwheel while in the nude in full glare of a crowd but I am concerned that people would actually gather to listen to someone who is a bit off to the left.

Assuming I am the civil defence officer of Nairaland is too outlandish I am simply a voice in the wilderness crying MAKE STRAIGHT THE WAY OF THE LORD and if my voice irks you then get used to it oo because it ain't about to stop anytime soon.

You dey vex say I dey spoil your market? You never jam!

Hmmm....
You are not even attempting to mask your "4evergodness" anymore.
That's good.

LoJ:
I can't blame them. There is something peculiar about sarassin, and I told him that a few times already, I am still trying to learn how to achieve that too, to the same extent.

Normally, it is possible to "smoke"* someone and sense who he really is, at his core. For that you need something personal, a picture, an audio, etc. Anybody can achieve this, with a little training, some do this better than others however. I can do it, with the writings of someone, even on the internet, and that almost at will.

However, for some reason, Sarassin was (still is) very difficult to "smoke". He is one of the only 2 people here in nairaland (the other one being PastorAIO), I never could "smoke"* from their writing. This is the very reason, why I avoided him for a long time on nairaland, although I was already aware of his writings. It took special circumstances, for me to dare approach him directly.

They say a true mystic, "never attracts attention, and never seeks attention". He truly has achieved that - in my opinion.

*I use the verb "smoke" here for very personal reasons. But I am certain some people here surely understand why my choice of word.

Cheers.

Really?
Have you *smoked* me?
What did you find out?