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lol..
She needs to be active in #THEOTHERROOM na...
Its not her fault!

DoctorAlien:
AnonyNymous,

Abel, Seth, Enoch, Abraham all never encountered Jesus. At least, not as we do now. They will all be in Heaven.

You know that after the flood, the world was re-populated through Noah's sons. They surely knew about GOD. It has been theorized that Asians descended from Shem, Caucasians from Japhet, and Africans from Ham(really don't know much about that). However, we know that Satan succeeded in perverting the worship of GOD.

The Ethiopian eunuch took the gospel of Jesus back to Africa. Before the first advent of Jesus, the Jews made proselytes of other nations.

GOD has always made Himself known to men of all nations. The devil is also trying to make men lose sight of GOD.

is jesus no longer the route of salvation?
Why bringing abraham and co

AnonyNymous:
Ok, I believe you have proper knowledge of the character of god. Explain how someone who devoted his life to serving the poor and helping the needy will burn in hell for all eternity, just because he was born in a place that had no access to the knowledge of your religion. And how that is fair. In other words, your basically telling me that all of our ancestors, everyone that existed on the continent of Africa from the year 1 AD till the first European settlers arrived are currently burning in hell.
Why am I concerned? Why I haven't just 'accepted' your god? Because apart from the fact that there is nothing I can see to show me that your god even exists at all, apart from the contradictions and inaccuracies people keep finding in your religious book, there is nothing to suggest that yahweh is as loving as you guys make him out to be. The old testament is full of blood and gore, and now you're even telling me here that no matter how good a person is, once he didn't hear about jesus, he's doomed, how does that sound like 'unconditional love' to you?

see ehn...if the christian God really exists and doesnt want anybody to go hell..
His supposed second coming would be in the first century.

DoctorAlien:
Is worshiping the sun god good?

Except the person is prejudiced towards Christianity, I don't think it's hard to accept the fact that Christ loves you and that He, despite being GOD, sacrificed His life just to make sure you spend eternity in the most wonderful Place ever known.

wtf?
For real?

.a

DoctorAlien:
Somebody calls Jehovah a fake GOD. He claims that he means that "Jehovah is a made-up GOD." Fine. Now, which GOD was not made up?

the word ''God'' itself is a made -up concept.

DoctorAlien:
Educate yourself. GOD is a Person.

like i said...this discussion is no longer on the logic..i've settled it.

winn.er01=i read a news online that a boy named A in nigeria(specific location) was shot today..

the boy named A is a person also..
Ion really understand your point..
Winne.r01 can believe what he read is true..that the person there is a real person too etc..

DoctorAlien:
I had to bring this here.

yes.. His fake God=a false God=a made up God..

DoctorAlien:
The dictionary defines "make up" in relation to false as:

"Invent a story, lie or plan."

Good...so you see that there is a possibility for ---no plans before etc
so i'm done!

Jehovah is not a story, neither is he a plan: He is a person.

How can a person be made up?

lol i thought he was a spirit?
Well..this is an argument on religiousity...not on the logic of fake and none being compactible.

DoctorAlien:
The true news is "no shooting."

Think!

[quote author=DoctorAlien post=50236458]

Raphiemontella:all those news are fake news..no body was shot in nigeria(same location stated) today

read what i said sire...

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the true God is No God?

DoctorAlien:
Fake news: people were shot

True news: nobody was shot.

Bro, you're trying to go against reason. If there is a fake, there must, of necessity be a true.

one more time bruh..

Main Entry: false Part of Speech: adjective

Definition: wrong,made up

this is your answer..ive already connected fake and false.

DoctorAlien:
SMH.

You said Jehovah is false. What do you mean by "false"? If you say:

3. Illusory; not actually so: which GOD is actually so and not illusory?

ill make it easier..
Winner01:i read a news online that two boys named A and B in nigeria(with a specific location(house no etc) were shot today
doctorAlien:no the news i read online was that four boys A B C D in nigeria(same location as above) were shot today
jantammanta:no..it was three girls that were shot A B C in nigeria(same location)
Raphiemontella:all those news are fake news..no body was shot in nigeria(same location stated) today

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i rest my case!
Edited
illusory - /ɪˈl(j)uːs(ə)ri/ adjective 1. based on illusion; not real.

4kings:
You must confess that what he posted does not make any sense

bros..the issue was to connect my fake wit a possibility for none...
He said-- when ever the word fake is used...there must be an original...ive shown that its possible to have a fake and no supposed original..

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what he wants is for me to bring a God..
Iow when An atheist says--no God..the atheistical position is impossible..thats what he wants from me..

DoctorAlien:
The fallacy entirely belongs to you.

Let's examine it again:

1. You call Jehovah fake.

2. You say you mean "false" by fake.

3. I ask for the true GOD.

4. You say there is none.

How can there be a false, and there is no true?

maybe you didnt look up the meaning of false...

false - /fɔːls,fɒls/ adjective 1. not according with truth or fact; incorrect
.
2. made to imitate something in order to deceive
.
3. illusory; not actually so.
4. disloyal; unfaithful.

Main Entry: false Part of Speech: adjective Definition: wrong, made up Synonyms: apocryphal, beguiling, bogus, casuistic, concocted, contrary to fact, cooked-up,
counterfactual, deceitful, deceiving, delusive,
dishonest, distorted, erroneous, ersatz*, fake,
fallacious, fanciful, faulty, fictitious, fishy,
fraudulent, illusive, imaginary, improper,
inaccurate, incorrect, inexact, invalid, lying, mendacious, misleading, misrepresentative,
mistaken, off the mark, phony, sham, sophistical,
specious, spurious, trumped up, unfounded,
unreal, unsound, untrue, untruthful
i hope you can see the synonyms since you love synonyms and co
www.thesaurus.com/browse/false

DoctorAlien:
Which means, there is no true GOD.
And if none is true, then none is false.
Therefore Jehovah is not false!

even you know that this is a logical fallacy..

DoctorAlien:
The first definition of "true" says "in accordance with fact or reality."
Which GOD is in accordance with fact or reality?

none

DoctorAlien:
Main Entry: fake
Antonyms: genuine, original, real, true, truthful



Now, who is the genuine, original, real, true and truthful GOD?
raphieMontella

this is funny... What role has the antonym of a word..got to with its meaning in a context? What you should be after is---the meaning..not antonyms..

true - /truː/ adjective 1. in accordance with fact or reality.
2. accurate or exact.
3. loyal or faithful.
4. honest.

so there is provision for ---none..

DoctorAlien:
Chai! You can twist words o!
You called Jehovah fake!
The dictionary defines fake as "not genuine; imitation or counterfeit."
Now who is the genuine/real GOD?

i gave you the meaning of fake..i had in mind... Simple!..no twisting there...

winner01:
Your point exactly?

theism can at times lead to anti-science behaviours....

I dont hold them in contempt like you do, I believe they need re-orientation, education and jobs, not mockery and insults.

re-orientation on what exactly?
Their definition of God? Or something else?

Do people kill over politics, marriage, jobs?
Do you mock these people?
Why did you cal my God fake and not my religion

they are 5 and 6...

Have you throughly examined both claims?

i see no difference..

Emotions are tools for satan according to you. Explain this

i did..you refused to see it..
They lead to ''sin''

You should also treat deists the way you treat theists cos they believe in the supernatural and you dont. Or are you still looking to be substantial in number

they dont believe in ''your'' supernatural..
They only believe in God.

winner01:
deists and pantheists too?
are they part of the team now?

If there was no original, there wont be fake. Keep your unproven theories to yourself

i said deists and pantheists because you were expecting a ''personal God'' from me...so i had to extrapolate..

Main Entry: fake Part of Speech: adjective Definition: false imitation Synonyms: fictitious,
forged, fraudulent, invented, make-believe, mock,
phony, pretended, pseudo*, reproduction, sham,
simulated, spurious
www.thesaurus.com/browse/fake
false - /fɔːls,fɒls/ adjective 1. not according with truth or fact; incorrect.

i believe..ive made myself understood!
Cc.doctorAlien

winner01:
Bigotry at its best.

Edited:
Good..youve given me an idea

DoctorAlien:
raphieMontella,

If there is a fake, there must, of necessity, be a real. And if there is no real, there is then no fake.

If Jehovah is the fake GOD, who is the real GOD?

deists exist o...
Pantheists exist also..
Mind you...there is no where its a ''must of necessity'' for an original to surfice..
Aba boys clone what is inexistent and produce such...

winner01:
We can examine the claims of buddha too and then compare to see which holds water

yes...so??
Where is the superiority?

Please explain in clear terms what you mean by emotions are tools of satan

are those emotions i gave you not supposedly bad? And lead to ''sin''?

Dont be hostile my friend. The Truth is waiting for you.

maybe you should look at them all..and see for yourself...
I still repeat...
Are the deists in essense wrong?

Winner01 called me oo

shadeyinka:
I agree perfectly with you.
They want to make it look to everyone that it was the Atheistic Scientists that made every invention we use today.

They portray Theist's as people who live in stone age and who are haters of science and freedom.

www.arstechnica.com/science/2016/01/this-years-first-batch-of-anti-science-education-bills-surface-in-oklahoma/

They claim they don't hate God (for He doesn't exist) yet the ferocity with which they insult and describe Him makes me wonder if there is no altered state at work.

Why should it bother me if the Fulani people flog a man as a test of manliness and readiness for marital headship. Why should I be emotionally contemptuous of them. Ordinarily, such things are understood and accepted as culture.

yess!
Bokoharam killings are also culture too(inline with their religion)
marrying minors too

Maybe these friends of ours should softpedal and treat religion as some peoples culture. Why must they always go to war over "what doesn't exist"!

religion exists...
Religion is what they ''go to war over''

jonbellion:
yeah nice write up atheists have also contributed a lot to modern science I think why a lot if scientists we religious back in the day was due to the fact that they reached their limits in their observations and calculations so they just left the ones they didn't understand to God. Now 21st century scientists know better. As astrophysicist Neil drgreasse Tyson said "If you want to use God for things you don't understand then God would remain a receeding pocket if scientific ignorance. Work hard people that's just the key

hardwork...hardwork...seun is proof.

shadeyinka:
Hi I wasn't referring to you o!

hello? Remember you didnt quote anyone? Remember you said atheists this atheists that.. I need not remind you ''im an atheist''..

DoctorAlien:
Please read this.

Please.

By the way, your interference is welcome.

As far as it is constructive LOL.

ive glanced through..
Would answer and notify you

winner01:
But we can examine carefully the claims of Christ as well as other people.

scoffs...
Like buddha?

Lol. How are emotions the tools of satan, please explain.

love? Which christianity subjectively defines..
Envy?(tho yahweh is envious)
and a lot like that

mAtthew 6:19-21,24(kjv)--mammon,the demon of greed/love for riches

well..like i said---according to the bible..not in reality

Why do you keep including "fake" .
Its like you admit there is an Original or you want to keep yourself sure.

because its fake na!

You owe it to yourself to rationally look at the available evidence.

so you're saying the deistic are in essense totally wrong?

Anas09:
What have they ever done to that Caplock guy who types only on high case?

Nairaland mods do not ban muslims for derailing threads and atheists for defaulting, but let a Christian do the same....

i cant count my bans...
They ban ''anybody'' and ''everybody''.

winner01:
Lol. Actually, I can give you a straight answer.
Yes, I want you to believe in God with me.
You dont have to include "fake" lol.
We can look at the evidence and make evidentially correct inferences.
Its unfortunate no atheist can answer my question.

yes i want you to disbelieve in your fake God with me..

winner01:
Should we also scrap emotions from the attributes of human beings?

no...he forgets christianity is not the only religion...(from the construct of his post)

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from the biblical perspection...
I think we should do away with our emotions..since they are tools of satan...(our emotions are caused by demons)

winner01:
Do you want me to disbelieve in God with you?

A clear answer cant be given for that question. A few - minority of humanity may have lost it.

do you want me to believe in your fake God with you?