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Duchessree:
1. UNIVERSITY OF BENIN .

were you invited?

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Creeza:
no pet egnr

serz ?

johnydon22:
God is a really Hot dude in a holy way

he(his kingdom/jesus) is always at hand
he really loves the sight of nake.d couples(married and unmarried)-ominipresense etc

hopefulLandlord:
same old arguments
"God of the gaps"
1 pick one mystery
2 say god did it

i woke up today my neighbour didnt wake up.. Woow goddidit god is supernatural.

HMZi:
logic can't explain everything,its a safe analysis tool but it cant even explain the rationale behind existence,i choose religion not because its perfect(anything made by man is bound to be flawed)but it has a sense of direction.

i just wanted to clear something...thats all..
You're evidence that your parents did some hard work on the bed..
Simple

stred:
something I saw during screening

which course bruh?

HMZi:
you and i are his proof,...dnt worry,when that time cums,we'll c who was right.Providing evidence will lead to endless banter of words,which in my opinion leads to no where...

you are proof that your parents did somehard work on their matrimonial bed

stred:
so explain this someone had 277 and wasn'tcalled but a score of 232 was called?.. until your source is from the admission Senate pls keep quiet. Thank you

whats your source?
And what course did they apply?

bigibigi1:
Hmmm how many student can uniben take for chemical engineering

no idea....pro'ly lesser than 1h...
Were you invited?
If yes...your jamb score

shadeyinka:
My problem with you is that you see every Theist-Atheist discussion must end in aguement.

I made statements valid for both Atheists and Theists. Statements of For and Against.

Learn my bro, not everything has to be argued about!

your statements about atheism are incorrect -order and death..both incorrect sire...
Btw atheism is simply disbelief..thats ''modern science''..
And that pascal wager tin?..its wrong...
Cheers bro..

Jacksonville:
He gave Adam and eve a strict warning, but they rather disobeyed.
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i have a simple question for you...
How did adam and eve know that eating the fruit(disobeying god) was a ''sin''?
If they didnt have a standard for sin unless they ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and bad??
(they didnt know they were unclad)

This is damn wrong sire...
Pls Stop this rebutted pascal wager

shadeyinka:
Theists insist that the Brain may be the "computer CPU" while the Soul is the "operating system and application softwares" that runs the CPU(brain). Theist insist that the soul can live out of the body and just like softwares are intangible component of the body.

can a software function and carry out its err'tin without the cpu?

The question then wraps around again:
Atheists say show us physical proof of the afterlife and of course there is no physical proof for the soul is not physical. The soul of man is in the form of God who is a spirit.

what happens to other conscious animals?
Heaven and hell too?
Foetuses and babies nko?
They become adults?

Theists say, "order" cannot come out of chaos!
Atheists see everything as random chance and therefore no real order.

even your fertilization is ''chance''
or does your god make intersex babies?

Theists loose NOTHING if Atheist are RIGHT but
Atheists loose EVERYTHING if Theists are RIGHT.

this is a bloody lie...
Allah?
The battle of reincarnation?
This is just a few o

Atheists know this and they have calculated the cost and consoled themselves
"At least, they will not be the only ones in Hell. They will have many fellow companions"

My sincere worry for them is, if Hell was to have categories, would they not find themselves in the worst part of it?

same can be said for allah..
Theists are heartless..how can be comfortable in heaven when people are supposedly burning eternally in hell?
A child who lost his parents to hell..will it be accorded a new parent?(and be comfy?)
will parents who lost their child to hell be given permission to make new ones?
That a serial killer can at the last minute recite some words and gain heaven?
While a budhist who forgave,,treated people well etc will gain hell for not reciting some mumbo jumbo?
The doctrine of hell is an insult to human intellect...and i know;you shadeyinka,is better than this..

I didnt want to reply..but i saw something which caught my eye

TheSixthSense:
Your mind is made up anyway. You asked if morality evolves and I said No, it doesn't.

i asked a simple question..i gave reasons.and you gave me nothing

You are not looking for reasons to believe neither are you looking for reasons why I believe in God despite formerly being an atheist.

which is?
What you have been telling me is nothing

I only assume you try to make me become an atheist like yourself by discrediting my beliefs but this method has never worked.

i believe i explained this before oga

Why don't you tell me what atheism has to offer that I don't know about? Bring your tenets of atheism and put it up for scrutiny.

atheism is not a thing..
Secular humanism is the ''thing''

But I would leave you with these questions for you to do your research and report your findings.

Did the man Jesus walk the earth or not?

depends on the ''how''

Was He crucified in death?

crucifixion was left for the worst of criminals and runaway slaves sir..
Not blasphemy..no records of it tho

Did He resurrect?

hell no!
He appeared,,talked etc to 500 people in jerusalem(according to paul) and the romans did nothing..almighty rome?

Did He ascend into heaven, if No, where then are His remains?

ha!..manure?
Or is it that empty tomb stuff?

Start looking into these questions, research to solve the mystery.

done it long ago boss..and i can show you how deep it goes..(mine)

write a comprehensive book and I promise I would buy 10 copies no matter your findings.

if i write a book on atheism etc..
I'd do my best to make it free...

Have a fabulous day.

was fabulous sire...

You don't have to reply btw

i didnt..but i had to..
How do we know gods natural law?(since punishments are attached to it)
thats all i asked sire..

DoctorAlien:
LOL.

I exist today because GOD ordained it to be. It is of His mercies that I'm not consumed.

Babies die in the womb, and so we see that mating doesn't guarantee existence.

did god kill the babies who die in wombs?(naturally)

what about intersex babies?
Did god make them?

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DoctorAlien:
Bro, I said whether you like it or not, GOD created you.

sorry o .but your parents mated to make you...or you wouldnt exist

It's just like asking your mother for an evidence that she gave birth to you.

this is not logical.

TheSixthSense:
How can morality evolve? Truth is absolute. There is good and there is evil. God's laws are good and moral and endures all ages. "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and love your neighbour as yourself. How can this not be good and subject to evolution? Except you are an existentialist then it's up to you to formulate your morality for yourself which would be modified by your offsprings until good becomes evil and evil becomes good.

Problem:How can we obey God’s natural laws when we’re not sure what they are?

If God has written a subset of his laws on our hearts, what exactly are they?
God’s Laws (according to the Bible) sometimes contradict God’s Natural Laws. For example: Natural law tells us that killing healthy babies is wrong, but God’s Law says it’s sometimes okay
(Gen. 7:21, Exodus 12:12, Psalm 137:9). Natural law presently tells us that owning and beating slaves is wrong, but God’s Law provides us with
a how-to manual (Exodus 21). Natural law tells us it’s wrong to steal and rape, but God’s Law says he may personally send men
to steal from you and rape you (Zechariah 14:2). Natural law also tells us it’s always wrong for a
man to rape a woman, and then to force her to marry her rapist; but God’s Law says this is totally permissible (Deut. 22:28-29).
Feelings of guilt are often unreliable measures of right and wrong.

For example, an anorexic girl may feel guilty about
eating a sandwich, but is she right? Is God using guilt as a natural way of condemning her for
inappropriate behavior? Or does she feel guilty only because she did something she believed was wrong? And her mind is now wrestling with the logical contradiction?
finally, with regards to conscience, many early cultures once independently reached the rather
natural conclusion that the sun was a god. How did they all “just know” this? Did God write this message on the hearts of the Aztecs, Incas, Egyptians, Greeks, Hindus, Persians, West Africans, Celtics and others? Did God guide their conscience
to this conclusion?
Or the ancient mexicans that believed sacrificing of babies was okay ?(without feeling guilt)
How can we obey God’s “natural laws” when these laws can be so misleading?

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or polygamy?
In the biblical times it was a normal thing,,,even advocated by yahweh himself..
Polygamy approved here
yahweh was directly with them.

Also the christians of the first century(c.jesus period) would swear that the holy spirit ws with them though slavery was practiced at that time and considered moral...

adjoviomole:
Three dimensional:
An object that has
height, width and
depth, like any
object in the real
world.
Example: your body
is three-
dimensional.
Also known as "3D".

That's from the internet and what we wer tot in mathematics and in fine art. Pls go back to school

What shape is this?

hey god!
Jesus why?
Keep on disgracing yourself..
Is that a rectangle?
Johnydon22 i cant laugh alone

Ranchhoddas:
They are physical phenomena. We are souls/spirits (or so they say) so at that dimension/plane our 'intellectual' capacities will be the same so the concept of foetuses and babies will be non-existent.

i dont really get you here..
i mean at the ''rapture''
definitely kids would be around(below 3 years),,foetuses in pregnant women,,(underdeveloped and developed)..
Will they be raptured to heaven?
A sinning mother with a foetuse...who willl be left behind?
A good mother and a foetuse?
Will the foetuse become an adult?

If they(foetuses) dont have a soul or spirit..at what age do we acquire it? Or something..

OLAADEGBU:
If the death of Jesus is irrelevant why do you use 2016 AD as a point of reference? Why don't you scrap your date of birth if you feel it is not relevant?

this is wrong sire...
Modern usage of ''BCE and CE'' is still accepted other than basically AD and BC....
Also..the use of jesus's alledged birth mark to mark years began years later and was not complete until the 15th century..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_calendars

The first six centuries after the birth of jesus,,europeans used local systems to count years,,usually regnal years modeled on the old testament..
In other cases creation dating was also used..
T was until the sixth century that dionysius devised the ''AD''..and thats when that system started...
By then christianity had been common by the actions of uncle constantine,,rome and accomodation of pagan stuffs to make christianity more desiring...
Also..jesus birth is c.4BC not 1BC..so its not basically him.

Ranchhoddas:
Yes. The coolness and avoid the monotony of seeing the same faces for trillions and trillions of years. The changes might be gradual; like normal human aging; not instant Hollywood transformation.

what about babies?
Foetuses?

lordnicklaus:
donnffd raphieMontella ifenes weah96.. Please what are your views on this?

the sun may not have enough mass to become a white dwarf..but its going to become a red giant...which is also not cool..
Its increase in size would engulf mercury,,,venus and possibly earth..
But if it doesnt engulf earth..having a super-massive hot ''friend'' at close range is not so ''chilly''..
Either way..the sun will still bleep earth.

johnydon22:
I admire you a lot, you and dorox seem to be the most reasonable Christians i know of here and i've hoped on addressing your topic immediately i saw it was you.

I am going to write a very long comprehensive reply with the utmost objectivity i can offer.

But permit brother to do that in my thread "Songs Of the world" i'm going to quote your question and carefully tender my own thoughts on it - my reply to this thread will form a chapter of it's on in my work "Songs of the worlds"

and oubenji...another reasonable christian

johnydon22:
Just like you can disprove he doesn't have a golden pig he talks to right now in his room.

Can you?

Why is it that you all don't really check to see how ridiculous your assertions sounds before posting them.

i swear theres no difference between them and kids who talk with(to) imaginary friends

a million likes brother... A wonderfully composed intellectual thread.. Well done!

adjoviomole:
Who said a cube now? I said a sphere . We all know cubes and rectangle etc are in 3D. When u draw.

rectangle 3d?
Thank heavens..i aint engaging you anymore.
Cheers

thesixthsense... Does morality evolve or not?

hardmirror really struck a heavy blow to the ego of these christians o..nawa

friendchoice....are you saying the quran is from a creator God#allah? Divinely inspired? And not prone to interpolations,,removal etc?

johnydon22:
its a severe mark of chronic hypocrisy in Pentecostal christianity that they chastise the catholics for having pictures and statues of "Christ, mary, saints" etc in their homes and churches and accuse them of idolatory while they [pentecostals] also have pictures of their pastors[G.O] in their homes, cars, Churches and advert banners.

If you want a classical example of unparalleled hypocrisy - study christians.

hypocrisy is the backbone of christianity

lennycool...those are the advantages of secular humanism..and humanism is what we should vouch for universally.
Atheism(+agnosticism) has no known benefit other than objective truth in the atheistic sense(the god(s) presented is not God)..