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If Jesus died for humanity, he should remain dead and not to wake up again.

And if his ultimate sacrifice is to save people from his father's hell, then he should be in hell burning forever while men should be free.

But a man dying for the sins of men only to wake up three days later and start cruising in heaven?

Then lastly, if jesus paying for our punishment was a day torture of beating and then dying on the cross.. Then humans should be given the same treatment, a sinner after death should be flogged and hung for a day after which he shall be set free to enjoy heaven not the everlasting torture in hell.


someone should tell uncle Yaweh dat he did not burn his son forever, why should he burn men forever

nmreports:
I am open to criticisms and recommendations. Appreciate your comment.

What would you have done to a million CVs?. Just asking in all humility.

first come first served is injustice, unfair.

An application is open for a specified period and some candidates usually take their time for proper review then u are judging based on first come first serve? as long as applicants submit within timeline, this should be no basis for selection

Gboyee4fun:
lol, ..it is meaningless exchanging words with you....as you said we are far diff from each other and I'm not a noisemaker esp on nairaland, its even shameful for you to be quoting from the bible you are against...
in all your comment, I can see your annoyance,Pele mr black man.

It should be shameful to you I brought valid points from your bible and there was nothing u cud do about it, more shameful u could not even come up with any valid point.

Gboyee4fun:
I don't have time for your stupidity...the same whites that brought religion for Africa brought civilization and technology in which you are able to type the trash you called wisdom...

All you type up there just show how tiny you can think...meanwhile Africa is in the bible..Egypt, Ethiopia... ..I can see how pained you are and how much you can rants.....lol ..keep ranting cos Jesus Christ is the Lord of lords and King of kings...lol, yap wella

I should not converse with u anymore, ur obviously low. But for the last time lemme help u think

Remember we were talking of Yoruba gods and tradition and u refer me to the bible to search for knowledge there...is the bible the right source to do that? why are u so inferior that you depend and wait for the whites to write your own history for you. are u this pathetic? You should be ashamed of yourself and weep so much for your mental slavery

Now u said they mentioned Ethiopia in the bible, pls read below how they ridiculed the only African country mentioned in your holy book

Jeremiah 13 vs 23
Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard his spots? Then also you can do good who are accustomed to do evil.


2 Chronicles 14

So the LORD defeated the Ethiopians before Asa and before Judah, and the Ethiopians fled. Asa and the people who were with him pursued them as far as Gerar, and the Ethiopians fell until none remained alive, for they were broken before the LORD and his army.

I am sure you know how Egypt which is known for knowledge and civilization were ridiculed in the bible and reduced to nothing. No mention was made of their great discoveries and achievements.

Black man, know yourself and your history.
I wont reply u anymore, we are centuries apart in thinking.

Gboyee4fun:
lol, go seek understanding from the bible and let go of your hardened heart and the light will shine in your eyes...Bleep Yoruba gods....all of dem...lol....your religion was colonized? where is the power of your gods when human beings were colonizing them? ...

nextime, yeah ignorance stink alots, get revelation to your knowledge..

So my heart has suddenly become hardened for exposing your ignorance.
Ignorance may be a disease but stupidity is the height of it all. Wats all these trash you are saying? are u dis mentally low?
when I thought I've seen the dumbest of people, New surprises keep coming up.

Did ur bible ever mention anything about africa, it's culture and people? But u 've chosen to stick ur little head and tiny brain like a mustard seed in believing without putting a thought to what the whites have brought to you.

If u have intelligence probelem, don't rant ur frustration on me pls. go and upgrade your thinking faculty. I haven't met you in person but my senses can tell that the difference in our intelligence are miles apart. Get away from me lowly religious dimwit

otemanuduno:
Five Sons Of Almighty God And Their Attributes:

The first sets of beings made by God Almighty are called the sons of God. Here are few of them and their behaviours.


4. Olorun-He is a god of Odua, a fragment of Nigeria. He is also known as Eledumare. He has children and made some. He does not accept sacrifices from human being. He is a god of patience, goodness and love. His character has been replaced with the name of the evil god of Yacob called Yahweh to the modern day children of Odua, but the traditional people still recognise him distinctly from Yahweh.

Olodumare and Olorun are different entities

According to Yoruba mythology, Olodumare is the supreme creator and Olorun orisha is the god of the sky and sun god.

Ashe is the energy which Olodumare use in establishing the world and humans can experience this Ashe and success in life through proper alignment and knowledge of the "Ori" (ones head) which was regarded as the portion of the soul which controls Destiny.

Gboyee4fun:
lol..now I'm a Yoruba guy...Allah...is Olorun..God is called Olorun..Yahweh means Olorun...Eledumare means Olorun....

so broda otemanuduno, to hell with your doctrine...free yourself from the confusion of language..

You dont mean it..
You are from the truth, the Yoruba gods were olorun, olokun, eledumare, obatala, eshu etc and they were never Yaweh.
Those names were replaced to mean Yaweh after our religion was colonised.

Ignorance stinks my friend, add knowledge to your head.

ritababe:
some girls sha

every girl has a price, what's yours?

MrPresident1:
Ok. I don tire

lol.. Ok see u after January 20

MrPresident1:
I am telling you that your rebellion is as a result of a subliminal subconscious fear of hell. But God has directed you here so you can know the truth which will set you free from that fear.

Even if you do not believe in doing good to towards an end, the good you do will make the world a better place. You do not need to fear anything, this is the Ark, and you are completely safe in here

Let's make this simple..

do u believe that I have a magic wand that can turn u to a goat? Now are u afraid of my magic wand?

stop being funny, you seem to know me more than myself and know that I have a sub conscious fear for hell?? I question your state of mind bro.

I fear Hiv/aids Bcus I know its real, I do everything to prevent it by avoiding casual sex, not sharing blades etc

OLAADEGBU:
That is what is called an 'iterated belief,' its a belief about a belief. It is self deception when you frequently attempt to convince yourself of what you want to believe (See James 1:22).

Take a shower then re-read wat u posted if it makes any sense to you. I can understand u've had a long day

OLAADEGBU:
The rapture may happen anytime from now but Jesus Christ will definitely not set His feet on Mount Olives before the January 20 this year.

that's why I sed u are all delusioned.

You both believe a jew is coming from the clouds blowing trumpets, riding on donkeys and you shall all join him in the clouds.

The only difference is that he believes it's going to happen before January 20 while U belIeve it will happen after January 20

OLAADEGBU:
Yours is intellectual schizophrenia, that is, believing in God, but believing that you do not believe in God.

are u sure u are ok?

I just had headache trying to make sense out of this

MrPresident1:
Against inate, subconscious fear of hell

I don't have any fear of any hell.

if I believe in hell I would fear it and I would 've submitted to its doctrines finding ways to escape it.

But I dont believe in that ideology of being good to make heaven and if otherwise, hell

Billyonaire, even though I dint agree with some of your posts e.g the flat earth theory, but I appreciate the fact that you are a great thinker and knowledge seeker.

continue the good works, we shall find answers to our existence and if we don't, we shall die knowing we went a long way trying

MrPresident1:
Stop judging yourself my brother, who ever mentioned hell or threatened fear of hell on this thread? You are only reacting, fighting against inate fear by being rebellious. You are the very first person to mention hell on this thread. Just continue to be good, and kind, and compassionate, and you will be fine. Our GOD is not petty, just do His commandments.

Being rebellious against who??

MrPresident1:
If you do not believe in Jesus, do you believe and practice his works and commandments? Love your neighbour as yourself, follow peace with all men, love, judgment, compassion, hatred of injustice and evil, do you do these things?

Not all who call Jesus lord lord will be saved, only those who do his commandments

I dont need Jesus to tell me any of these before I do them. I do them out of my own freewill not that I've been commanded by a dead Jew who I don't even believe in.

if I need religion to threaten me to be moral, (fear of hell) then I'm not moral...hypocrisy is the word


so tell me what you will say about billions of people who have died before Jesus was born and were good and have died after Jesus and were good but never heard of jesus. Was it Jesus that made them good?

MrPresident1:
On second thoughts, maybe you need help truly. Jesus did not come for the healthy, he came for the sick. My friend, the only thing you need to do to be saved is to accept Jesus as your Lord and saviour, and to continue doing good

But I don't believe in the story of Jesus and ive been doing fine without him doing good to the best of my ability, will I be tortured forever for not believing?

I can't confess what I dont believe, threatening me to believe is evil

OLAADEGBU:
Same to you my sister in Christ. Hope you are not carried away by the delusion of the OP?

You are all delusioned, the only difference is time....

Truly, there are 1000 ways to die..dead pose finally gone dead

classyc:
If not that I'm in a good mood, would have said you're very stupid....idiot

Thank God u are in a good mood

tarboshi:
You lack knowledge, most renowned churches in Nigeria have wonderful and affordable hostpitals and health centres . Besides Nigeria is not a theocratic government, and soso the church is not supposed to provide health care facilities for the whole Nigeria.

exactly, praying for miracles for people to get healed and collect their offerings is enough...after which they can go sort out themselves at hospitals.


Church = hypocrisy

honey001:
What's this one saying? So na church and mosque tax go build Nation? What about the tax collected so far, anything to show for it?

You have a problem of low comprehension plus irrational thinking

Agbanagba1:
Pastor Adeboye made the Redeemed church a big booming business that it is today... It will take a big fight to disentangle him from the leadership position of the church because the issue at hand is basically financial and not spiritual.

well said, the battle is financial.

An empire he has spent his life building.

walcut:
Smh... I have nothing to say

People are working hard daily. The gullible ones come to donate part of their hard earned income and people like ur father calling themselves pastors sit doing nothing saying others are chasing vanity...

But they sit amd enjoy the tithes and gifts from these men chasing vanity. it is these tithes they live on and use in looking good and raising their families and children to the best schools.

I hate pastors, nothing personal. They are the biggest scammers and hypocrites the world has ever known and shall ever know protected by religion and the very people they scam.

Tell this to your dad

walcut:
never knew I was speaking to an atheist.

how does that address the issue.

Tell your dad to go and look for a job...He sud use his hands to work, there is dignity in labour not sharing religious loots

Tell me what value he's contributing to humanity?
He's a soul reaper ba?

If not that our culture teaches us to respect the elderly, i would ve said this man is very stupid

walcut:
Bro find out your self.... My father is a full-time pastor under Rccg... This is first hand info... I have seen his pay slip times without number.

So your dad has been enjoying people's tithes.

Tell your dad to go and look for a job and contribute value to the society rather than hiding under God sharing religious loots

rhektor:
Church is an NGO, a not for profit making organisation

But they have huge funds in banks..

Churches are the biggest scammers and hypocrites the world has ever known and will ever know.

NGO indeed making extraordinary income but adding no value to the society rather they contribute to noise pollution and cause the worst traffic congestions on express roads

As if that's not enough, they have contributed to many accidents and deaths of innocent road users. Go find out how people die on the road during their nonsense camps

buy his loyalty forever

otemanuduno:
You are so fast that u didn't permit me to land before quoting me. I actually studied Urban and Regional Planning as my B.SC but right now I'm studying Geography online.

As for the things I write, if I can write so well, I wouldn't have hesitated to write season films and make millions.

Ok then..

The doctrine is great and I'll choose it 100 times over the bible and Koran together... keep it coming, it's making sense

otemanuduno:
Lol... I studied Geo-something

I'm sorry for asking, I've been pondering something..
Your doctrine is one that amuses one.

Many will wonder if your claim of you receiving this inspiration from Eartum is true or you composed it.

But to compose this will require someone who has a vast knowledge of history, philosophy, Arts and religious studies. Probably, a PhD degree in these courses won't be sufficient but must be very talented in writing and must have spent some years of research works...