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totit:
You don't even live in lagos to start with.

See this one oo

The number of property I and my siblings have in Lagos will shock you. We were born Lagosians at Obalenda area, We invest where we live. We are not clannish who will depart from where we have lived to our own towns empty handed, like you do.

totit:
The 1889 articles has established that ibos are just opportunists, lagos was built before you immigrant invade it.

It's as simple as that.

As for the pain, I think you are the one who's in pain.

Stop imagining things.

Which 1889 article did you present?

Ogunlewe eve started the migration started far back in 15 century when you were still in distance Oshogbo before you started migrating enmass from 1931. Greedy as usual claiming what has been already developed. leaving you western capital in ruins.

I have given you evidence by your own people, Ogunlewe and Adetayo and you said I am imaging things?

totit:
Do you want me to dig an article that establishes Anambra belongs to Bini kingdom?

Mind you, your article only promotes one Nigeria. So, no P.

I don't care what article you bring. I have been consistent about Lagos...but you have been chasing the wind all day,

totit:
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Of course, Nigeria belongs to all just like Ananbra is own and belongs to yoruba, hausa, et al.

E pain am. Even if I bring a link where you family tells the true you will do somethin harmful to them.

I understand your pain....I know the truth hurts like hell. Sorry.

"....The Igbo had the skill and the industry, and Lagos was the seat of the Federal Government of Nigeria and its major port. The Igbo have lived in Lagos since the 15th century when the Aro and other Igbo first settled in good number in a place we now call “Oyingbo” in the era of Benin and the Portuguese trade..." Senator Adeseye Ogunlewe

totit:
Stats, please?

From in the inception I just knew you were not quite ok. I swaar

Hey, the same guy throwing trillion around some days ago, right?

Adetayo Adesola is now Igbo...the ACF are Igbos.

You have no idea mate.

totit:
Llool

Your articles talked about origin of Lagos migration and population which was dated back to 1930?? Are you sure you are really mentally stable or do I need to show you that of 1880's that trash yours?

It seems this your obsession with lagos is turning your head, abi

Lagos State belongs as much to the ethnic Igbo as to the Yoruba, Ijaw, Hausa, Fulani, Efik, Idoma, Urhobo, Itshekiri, Edo, and so on who live in it, pay tax, identify with it, and settle in it. That compact was made the moment Nigeria became a single nation, and a successor power to the old principalities who were subdued and who ceded their sovereignty for the new commonwealth of Nigeria .
It was pragmatic. The Igbo had the skill and the industry, and Lagos was the seat of the Federal Government of Nigeria and its major port. The Igbo have lived in Lagos since the 15th century when the Aro and other Igbo first settled in good number in a place we now call “Oyingbo” in the era of Benin and the Portuguese trade.
The arrival of Dr. Namdi Azikiwe to Lagos in 1937 from Accra after his studies in the United States, stimulated the political and cultural environment of Lagos as no other has before or after him. Zik literally resurrected the wizard of Kirsten hall from political death. Zik represented Lagos in the western house. The NCNC was the power in Lagos , and not the Action Group. The Igbo were prominent in the governance of Lagos in the Lagos City Hall .
The institutional development of Lagos – the railways, the ports and ship yards; the education and research facilities; the Banking and Commodities Exchange, the development of towns like Yaba, Surulere, Ebutta-Metta, Festac Town, Victoria Island, and now increasing the Ajah-Lekki axis, and of course, the ghettoes along the Orile-Badagry axis, have profound Igbo imprimatur. The circulation of the image of Lagos is to date best reflected in the cosmopolitan Igbo imagination of one of the greatest African writers of the 20th century, Cyprian Ekwensi, a thorough Lagosian if there was any. Igbo have built industries in Lagos and have been drivers of commerce and exchange.
Interestingly, I was born at plot number 8, Okoya Street , Idumagbo- Lagos, while the Ojukwu families were residing at number one to three on the same street. I grew up to know the father of Odumegwu Ojukwu. Chimbizie and Azuka grew up with us on the same street. Even the Chibeze small parking space at the end of Okoya Street is called Ojukwu. I later attended St. Patrick Primary School , Idumagbo, where I had very amiable classmates of Igbo origin in the persons of Azubike Ezenwa and Damian, Ihekuna, both now professors and doctors of today. They were brilliant, resourceful and friendly.
When we were playing bamboo and Tene Felele at Orikoriko at Onola playing ground, the Igbo participated actively. In the area of sports, school football and athletes, Igbo were dominant at Kings College, St. Gregory school, St. Finbars, Akoka, Igbobi College and Ahmadiyya College, Agege. Such boys, Njokwu, George Amu, Stephen Keshi, Henry Nwosu, Patrick Noquapor, Peter Anieke and Sammy Opone were dominant on the field of football, while Asiodu, Empire Kanu were prominent on the field of athletics.
Anytime we went to watch football match at Onikan stadium, my darling team, Stationery Stores and our adversary team I hated most was the E. C. N, where the centre forward, Paul Hamilton, the National Team, Fabian the captain who bit the dust. Our greatest captain was Duru, Oduah Onyenrekwa, Onyeador Onyeali and Opel, the greatest outside right Nigeria ever had, Cyril Azuluka. So, during my early life at primary school, the Igbo were always there and delightful to watch, both in athletes and on the football field.
When I listened to radio at that time, both the commentary and drama series, the Igbo were there for you. The likes of Chris Ndaguba, Ernest Okwonkwo, Ralph Okpara ‘Alawo Sekiseki the traveler’. The episode will end with – The script was written by Ralph Okpara and edited by Yemi Lijadu.
Anytime I visited where I was born today in Idumagbo at Lagos Island , the entire place is covered by Igbo traders in their thousands. They were never troublesome but decent and accommodating. They have virtually taken over all properties of the indigenes. They succeeded in developing all our properties, married to most of our children even from the royal families. There is no single house you will visit without an Igbo man selling wares there.
So, who is saying something else? Only the strangers in our midst will not notice participation of economic development in our state by the Igbos. Most houses and shops in Lagos Island have been purchased, developed and occupied by the Igbos. The value of their investments in Lagos Island alone is in trillions of naira.
Instead of deporting the Igbos, whose contributions to the development of Lagos state are immensurable, you must keep on praising and encouraging them to keep on developing Lagos State .
•Senator Adeseye Ogunlewe is a former Nigerian minister for Works and Housing.

totit:
Like I always say, the number of buildings erected or built by yoruba churches alone outnumbered whatever imaginary houses ibos believe they build in lagos.

......In Lagos here alone, they dominate the retail and wholesale markets at Computer Village, Alaba International, and the Okirika markets on the Island. The markets at Iwo Road Ibadan are also dominated by the Igbos. After threats of expulsion from the North by the Arewa youths, we got to find out; they cannot leave the North because the Igbos has 44 trillion naira worth of investments in North....Adetayo Adetola

totit:
Of course, I just did that and I just found that you are indeed not ok. Suddenly, you are not longer interested in your 1930s article?

The bone of contention here still is, who were the people that built the lagos of then?

I am but you are not interested in 1930 article, so?

This shows you are not okay.

Goke7:
just like people who speak igbo and want to lie that they are from Lagos

What I mean is the Igbo speakers and Yoruba speakers from Kogi and Kwara all helped in developing Lagos. Hence Lagos belongs to all. I never said Igbos own Lagos.

Goke7:
am not from Oshogbo oponu, am from the Ijebu axis of Ogun state [just 45 mins from Lagos], the most industrialized axis in the country, born in Lagos too. We ijebus have a big stake in the Lagos project than you can ever imagine. African is a shithole indeed and you want to claim shithole Lagos as yours, guy your confusion is now advanced Only folks with inferiority complex cry and die for what can never be yours.

Then concentrate on Abeokuta. Its your heritage.

I have never seen the northerners claiming Kano or Kaduna.

They may be poor and less educated but they are not too greedy

An Ijebu man claiming Lagos. Wonders shall never end. What happens to your western capital?

I think you are a child,

totit:
You are comparing 1898 report with 193**s

Are you sure you are OK?

In 1898...How many of you from other places helped to build Lagos?

You need to check you are okay...

Goke7:
just like many has lived in other places without speaking the indigenous language, I lived in Benin for more than 10 years and I did not speak edo language neither did I claim the place as mine, again what is the lingua franca of Lagos, answer nah

So people from Kwara and Kogi who speak Yoruba can claim Lagos?

Which book are you reading?

Inferiority is tearing you apart.

Goke7:
you dey run? shameless people you are, always trying to steal other people's heritage and identity

When they say African is a s.hole...I know get what they mean.

I have never seen New Yorkers who are originally from American saying the Italian-New Yorker is stealing their heritage and identity.

Only people with deep inferiority complex do that.

You heritage belongs in you town..Oshogbo!

Goke7:
pls what is the lingua franca of Lagos? You are about to tell another lie with your answer, waiting.....

Many people have lived in Lagos without speaking Yoruba...and they have not missed anything on the account of not speaking Yoruba.

What planet are you guys from?

Do you greedy man speak Niger Delta languages before you go to Abuja to get your share from federal account?

Nawahooooo!

omonnakoda:
He is full of bile and resentment

Where is the bile and resentment. I just gave you facts with document.

Stop being too emotional. I bet you are from Ilorin and here you are tearing yourself for nothing

You might not even own a property in the city you are struggling to feel good for...Gosh!

Goke7:
omo nothing dem no fit do to claim citizenship, who no one claim Lagos

It's amusing that people from Osun are claiming what they can't replicate in Oshogbo. You guys have no shame I swear.

I need to leave your guys for your childishness for good.

Goke7:
I said it, they will never give up on their lies

There is no lie...It's your lies and deceits that are being debunked consistently with verifiable facts.

Nobody has ever dragged your western capital Ibadan with you.

Goke7:
You are the one that is not enlightened by saying Lagos will diminish, in short you are confused, today you are asking for compensation, next you say Lagos will go down in the future. Truth is stop claiming what can never be yours

You have no argument my friend. And stop panicking.

Lagos belongs to all Nigerians and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it...so long as one Nigeria continues.

omonnakoda:
Ancestry being the keyword

Whatever your ancestry
You must INTEGRATE ,speak English and adopt American ways and values

The same applies in Lagos, speak Yoruba and adopt Yoruba values massage the heads of babies to reshape and remove flattening

I don catch am...

You are now changing the narrative to speaking Yoruba. When is Yoruba a legal lingua franca in Lagos?

You are a joke.

Goke7:
you are just funny, New York is what it is because of all sort of investments from all over the world, if anything happens to America and it splits so you mean NewYork too same as London will compensate the entire world for their contributions abi? You lack understanding of what a Global city is. The investments you see today in Lagos is not a Nigerian thing but a global affair, the seaports are still underutilized because the Lagos ports are not transshipping locations from which goods coming in can even go on to other Nations down southern Africa, the day we have more enlightened people in govt, this will start so how can Lagos become a shadow of itself when its yet to be optimized especially its abundant aquatic splendor. Nigeria is the one slowing Lagos down, more international investments [which is we want and not dirty corner corner shops] will flow more into Lagos the day the seaports and airports are free from useless FG bureaucracies.

Ogbeni, New York belongs to all the people that migrated there. Including the Irish, the Germans, the Jews, the Italians. Nobody in his right senses will drag New York like you guys are doing Lagos. It is a shame. Why are you not dragging Ibadan you western capital?

The current Mayor of New York has German and Italian ancestry.

So stop wasting your time.

I thought you guys are enlightened?

totit:
This settled it ;

https://www.nairaland.com/4144976/lagos-1898before-nigeria-not-oil

Nothing settled it. Stop claiming what is not yours.

You don't still get it. When these were happening, you guys from the Oyo and Osun were nowhere to be found.

The Aros from the east migrated to Lagos before you started migrating by 1931. See pic.

Someone talked about New York. The Irish and others who migrated there are part of New York.

@Arewaa, was Gideon Orka not from your northern Nigeria, again?

emperorshaokahn:
you guys also dominate the world poverty capital(s) list,almajiris,boko haram,fulani headsmen,etc.

"....countless examples of the exploitative, oppressive, dirty games of intrigues of its class, where people and stooges that can best be described by the fact that even though they contribute very little economically to the well-being of Nigeria, they have over the years served and presided over the supposedly national wealth derived in the main from the Middle Belt and the southern part of this country, while the people from these parts of the country have been completely deprived from benefiting from the resources given to them by God" Gideon Orka
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What Gideon said during his coup is even worse today.

The north occupies all government offices...NNPC, NPA, Customs, Police, Army. Airforce, NDLEA, Immigration, Prison, EFCC, Judiciary, NSA, INEC, etc, etc even when you contribute little. Is this fair? Would you be happy if a southern president gives all these post to the southerners?

Arrewa:
lol....Do you know why I just laughed at you??

You people so much underrate the north!! You judged the North based on the Nigereins and Chadian Hausa speaking Africans you see in the South.. You judge north based on almajiri pictures the media is showing you!!

Let me give you small orientation about the north!

The new Generation of Hausafulanis are well learned!! This new generation is not like that of our fathers!!

This new Generation is coming with fire!!

We are even taking over even social media!!go to Twitter and see wonders!!

Stop deceiving yourselves!!

The only thing that will save you is Biafra! If Biafra no come!! Then forget it! This upcoming Generations will dominate you more than BUHARI's Generation!!

I will advice to stop hating... Stop instigating hatred!!

Let Agitate for a better Nigeria and restructure the country!!

Let's Agitate for system that every region will be well presented!!

How is he instigating hatred?

Is he Gideon Orka who wanted to remove you core north from Nigeria..so you could form a country with your cousins in Chad and Niger?

PHAYOL81:
You kidding, right? Everybody to have a stake in Lagos if the nation split? Like what the fvck? And what d'you mean by compesating other regions? What the heck for?
Just pray the nation split tomorrow and see your true worth. Yet, that would never stop Lagos from growing because she'd always been at the fore-front before all you guys stepped in. It wasn't like the Brits or the Portuguese before them met a wilderness when they came, rather they met a thriving commercial center. So even if we care to shift the capital elsewhere after 'One Nigeria' might've been no more, Lagos would continue to grow and glow. Infact, I don't see beyond the city keeping its pedigree as the commercial hub of Africa.

You don't seem to be getting it.

Lagos was what it is because of the massive investment of all Nigerians to be what it is. Figure presented showed that you form the hitherlands of Oyo, Ekiti, Ondo and Osun started migrating to Lagos in from 1931s.

You must compensate other regions from the investment of the collective FG if anything happens.

Also all banks, embassies, oil companies, multilateral institutions will locate elsewhere.

Your seaport and airports will reduce their imports as most importers who are not from SW will use other ports.

In 50 or 100 years it will become a shadow of its self.

If you think I am wrong that Lagos was, because of sustained investment of all from the 1800s, why is Cotonou which has similar environment like Lagos, not as developed as Lagos?

Frankdoz8:
no, Yoruba Muslims are more problematic that northern almajiri's.

Do not mind that guy....It means that there more northerners in Nairaland then.

So habitual haters like helinues, Simpleo. Nigeriasage, Ayekoto are northerners?

Though I am not a fan of Kanu, but it appears he is more popular than any incident in western Nigeria.

Kanu's new has gone 5 pages already.

Yesterday's news of Fulani herdsmen sacking and burning communities in Ondo could do half a page our brothers from SW went into hiding.

To flush them out you have to post news about Biafra, Kanu or Igbos news.

My research has shown that the most news that can go more than 50 pages and build traffic in Nairaland MUST come or have to do with the south eastern part of the country.

Cc: helinues, Simpleo. Nigeriasage, Ayekoto

zionmde:
Ok now it is this way, wats the way forward or should everybody now fold their hands and watch these guys run on rampage?

wat u dont know is the strenght of an enemy lies in division

Synergy of the southern people is the option, but you know the region that will be sympathetic to these marauders....
MURIC will never allow this to happen. Remember they are the ones against AMOTEKUN

Corporate2020:
Fulani herdsmen will suffer once AMOTEKUN begins operation. It is the coward COVID-19 that stopped the recruitment, camping and training of AMOTEKUN officers. You will all recall that forms have already been designed and South Western States governors have asked Yorubas to go and collect recruitment forms before this coward COVID-19 started. Once we defeat COVID-19 and restrictions are lifted, AMOTEKUN recruitment will start.

It is the coward COVID-19 that stopped the recruitment, camping and training of AMOTEKUN officers
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This is hilarious

Gabkosh:
You are just a victim crier. That is the fact.

..and you super man will carry other peoples matter for head like bread and butter seller....not attending to your own issues...what kind of human are you?

Naajjii:
No it is not clear, you talking about the whole North here, why is it that when stuffs like distribution of wealth or appointments comes, you dont remeber that we have middlebelt ,but if its stuffs like this then remeber that we got middlebelt. Example the conditional cash transfer where you people accussed the government of favouring the north why do you classify some top beneficially states like Kogi and Benue as middlebelt?

I don't know what you talking about. See.

zionmde:
Sharrap
wat has ur own region done to curb the excesses of these fulani destroyers

When someone asked before 2015, that they need arms to fight the herdsmen who are armed with AK47...as they will be empowered once APC wins. You guys are still asking for the guys head till today.