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missjekyll:
And there's more

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2024/sep/29/maternity-pay-is-excessive-says-tory-leadership-hopeful-kemi-badenoch

Your thoughts on this ,please? I have heard a lot about maternity pay but I have never heard it described as excessive. She well so? Ndi nne mama! Wetin una think?

I have agreed with Kemi on a lot of things.
Although I see a lot of sense in what Kemi said (on this occasion), I must admit that in a pseudo-socialist society the UK is, the ‘optics’ don’t look good (yet) for this kind of comment.
Whereas Kemi’s stance is ideologically understandable, in a UK where political correctness is rife, it makes sense to bash her.

As a woman, I would love to have a 3 year maternity pay. ‘Problem’ is, someone somewhere is paying for it. In taxes. I do not totally align with Kemi on this.

She said: "Maternity pay varies, depending on who you work for - but statutory maternity pay is a function of tax, tax comes from people who are working.

"We’re taking from one group of people and giving to another. This, in my view, is excessive.

"Businesses are closing, businesses are not starting in the UK, because they say that the burden of regulation is too high."

Goodenoch:
https://archive.is/opSd0

Thanks and God bless

missjekyll:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/09/28/kemi-badenoch-not-all-cultures-are-equal-tory-

If you don’t mind, please post the whole story. Seem to be behind a paywall

missjekyll:
Please hand back your payrise o. Don't spend it. Also you are enjoying peace and quiet now after the racist riots due to decisive action ,aren't you? What's the big deal with 1 MP resigning the whip. Majority is still stonking and things are getting done.

I ve been following Angela Rayner's reforms closely. Anyone else following that?

I actually came on here to post badenochs latest slurry of verbal loose motions when I saw this. I hope she gets the leadership. Will be great to watch the final implosion of the tories

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/09/28/kemi-badenoch-not-all-cultures-are-equal-tory-leadership/

Addendum: I don't really like what about ism but i can be persuaded to dig deep into Bonzos file and table all the backhanders he took and didn't declare while PM.
I hate these freebies that they take. They are all at it. All of them. I absolutely hate it and would want it to be banned

The same way Buhari presented himself as a saint in 2014/2015 is the same way Sir Keir Starmer presented himself as a saint in 2024.

Now we know the ‘mr integrity’ Keir Starmer is in bed with a certain Lord Ali. Collecting freebies left right and centre. Blatant cronyism - exactly what the same sir Keir accused the outgone govt of doing.

Hypocrisy stinks!

Like UK Labour Party, Like Nigeria APC.

They run propaganda & win elections.
They claim they have everything all planned.
They make mad promises.
They get elected.

Everyone begins to see how clueless and unprepared they are to rule/lead.

Like UK Labour Party, like Nigeria APC

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3vkdy997rko

Cyberknight:
Badenoch is just another politician - empty words, no proven competence, no policies to offer other than endless culture wars and identity politics.

Drearily, she's just another one in a long line of minority politicians who feel they can achieve something beyond the colour of their skin - her loud silence and eventual parroting of the party line during the recent race riots a case in point. As the race riots showed, no matter how much you try to form oyibo, no matter how much you claim to say the things they want to hear, no matter how many fake accents you assume, the day jungle mature, someone somewhere will stand at a checkpoint and profile you by skin colour and ask you : "Are you English? Are you white?"

The difference between you and Jedisco is that, Jedisco saw a telegraph interview, of a politician he ‘doesn’t always agree with’. Jedisco watched the interview from beginning to end. He picked up ⬆️ the good points and the lessons and learned/resolved to make a difference in the lives of younger generations.

You, on the other hand (I’m not sure you watched the interview from start to finish) decided to regurgitate your inherent bad feelings about Kemi.

Welll, Jedisco has made very vital points. The points made were the reason I watched the interview myself. Just like Jedisco, I may not agree with Kemi all the time but I have picked the positives and I’m sure my kids will learn from Kemi.

Zahra29:
As ReesheesuKnack advised, it is best to follow through and comply with the 70 day investigation.

However I think that getting married in Nigeria in September will work in your favour and help substantiate your relationship. You could frame it as the wedding in Nigeria is to adhere to your customs and tradition, and also gives you the opportunity to celebrate with all your family and friends and introduce them to your fiancée while the registry wedding is to have a small celebration with those in the UK.
The church wedding certificate is different to the registry certificate, so you can provide this as further evidence to the investigation that your relationship is genuine and subsisting.

Make sure you notify Home Office of your plans to get married (church and traditional) in September.

Or Fiancé Yeah?

Kromium:
Hello All,

I am faced with an issue and will require advise on this. I have been trying to get married through UK registry via the council to a British citizen since May this year. Because an immigrant is involved, our marriage notice application had to be reviewed by the Home Office. Hoe Office replied saying they will increase the notice from the usual 28 days to 70 days to investigate if its a sham marriage.

They requested a couple of documents such as 6 months bank accounts and credit card statement for the interview which i mostly had all my bank accounts printed but only went with my active credit card statement (I had others but rarely used it). Unknowingly to me they already did a search and discovered i didnt submit the inactive credit card statement. Thus because of this we were issued a non-compliance document and were told to start over again.

We started process for the 2nd marriage notice interview on August 1st but was yet issued another document requesting a 70 days investigation time ending October 10th. We are going to Nigeria for traditional and church wedding in September. The issue now is my PSW ends December 31st. Thus, i am thinking if it will not be seen to be dodgy going for a Nigerian court wedding for a marriage certificate whilst they might have the data information that i have earlier applied to a UK registry for court wedding which underwent investigation.

Thought of this considering, i will need the marriage certificate to apply for a Spousal visa and will need to apply or get a reply for the Spousal visa before December as my supervisor at work seldom ask about next plan considering they're unwilling to sponsor back office staff.

Will appreciate your comments

@zahra29 @justwise

If PSW visa expires and marriage has not completed and you haven’t obtained any other work visa then, return to Nigeria. Stay in Nigeria.
Then let your partner travel to Nigeria and marry you. Your partner returns to the UK, leaving you in Nigeria. Then your partner applies for their spouse to join them (assuming they meet the criteria). Then you join your spouse on a spousal visa. Done.

Alternatively, shift the September plans to a future date so that the Nigeria leg of your marriage/wedding takes place after the UK version has completed.
Or
If you have already planned a September marriage & wedding . That’s fine. Go ahead. Travel back to Nigeria. Get wedded/married. BUT….. BUT that wedding/marriage is only for your ‘consumption’. That evidence is not for submission to Home office. Let the 70-day home office period run its course.

Lexusgs430:
She rendered herself totally unemployable ........ With no recourse to public funds...... Only one option is available to her .........😁😂

Actually, she has a couple of options:
a. Go to Kings Cross, take the Eurostar to France. Navigate to Calais. Get on a dinghy ⛵️ and return to Dover. Throw away her passport. Claim asylum.

b. Remain where she is. Identify as ABCQRT+++. Remind the authorities that she can’t go back to her home country because she will be killed or imprisoned (by virtue of her new-found real self. Done.
So, you see. She has lots of options.

PS: While typing this reply, I couldn’t find my taste organ. Just when I was about to click ‘submit’, I found the cheeky organ snugly hidden in a corner of my buccal cavity.

LionInZion:
I just used the app for transfer some minutes ago, and it was successful, no issues at all.

Me too. Absolutely no problems at all

Lefty500:
Hey Reshee,

I'm here to give you a feedback on this.

I applied, and I and my dependant have been refunded for 6 months.

I first apllied towards the end of July, but they requested I submit my official offer letter, because the one I submitted was provisional. I got the official offer letter from my line manager, I resubmitted it, but no response from them.

Two days ago, I started the whole process again, submitted the necessary documents and also match the date range claimed to the payslip I submitted. I got a mail yesterday that it had been approved and I will have to wait up to 6 week to get refunded.

I woke up this morning and the first thing I saw was the alert. 🤑🤑

Thanks for the encouragement.

You are welcome.

KOVIC19COVID20:
In other news…

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/aug/07/shamima-begum-supreme-court-refuses-hear-citizenship-appeal

Isn’t it time to stop wasting tax payers money to lawyers launching these baseless appeals?
There is a concept in Arabic/islam called قدر. Basically about embracing fate. Can’t this girl just embrace qadar and believe that the almighty Allah (SWT) has destined for her to live in Syria ?

This story was engulfed by bigger news/events.
True. Wonder how much more legal aid money will be wasted on that (not-so) little terrorist.

I hear her lawyers are heading to the Supremest court (well, maybe not Supremest, but that court in Strasbourg).

Lexusgs430:
If he got a pure water factory, and receives a nafdac seal for that..... But now uses the sane pure water factory seal for miracle water...... That's simply an illegal change of purpose (I would expect nafdac to sue Jeremiah, and cancel their registration)........

Jeremiah don buy market....... Liborous already offered a pro bono service to vdm....... 😜🤣

You got it slightly wrong.

If he gets Pure water factory seal. And he produces pure water as per standards Then no NAFDAC rule has been broken.

If he claims that the pure water he produces from his NAFDAC-certified factory has some miraculous powers, it is not a NAFDAC problem. It only becomes a NAFDAC issue if he claims he adds other ingredients in the water to make it miracle water.
I hope this helps.

But if you need further clarification, happy to explain.

Lexusgs430:
He claimed NAFDAC approved it........ Does each miraculous miracle product, have NAFDAC approved number...........

If they do and NAFDAC approved his miraculous products, that organisation needs to be scrapped and prosecutions issued........

For the sake of NAFDAC & Dora's legacy, I hope jeremiah simply bluffed....... 😁

NAFDAC approval does not necessarily mean a formulation does what us claims. NADDAC approval (just as FDA) only certifies that the product is fit for consumption or use. It doesn’t certify efficacy. So yes! Uncle Fufeyin’s formulation may have NAFDAC seal. But it’s for non-toxicity, not for efficacy.

missjekyll:
If it leads to good things happening for my community,I m going to chase whatever it is till the ends of the earth. If that's ' far left', so be it.

Say another thing,this one don old

Finally, my sister is holding up her ‘far-left’ badge with honour.
Way to go.

Good morning MissJekyll (& Hyde).

Goodenoch:
The point is not about the number of visas being issued. The only complaints on visa policies we have had here (AFAIK) was when they increased fees for people in the country and even then it was primarily because they framed it around making immigrants pay more to fund services, linking the problems those services were facing to immigrants, as usual.

And that is the point - the constant demonization of immigrants. The tories issued visas (on the basis of the economy's need for them, not on humanitarian grounds, to be clear), yes, but they also made it normal to attack immigrants for everything that went wrong, however unrelated. I think Starmer has a mandate to reduce immigration and he should because that's what the electorate want, clearly. As long as he goes about it without attacking immigrants who have done nothing but follow the UKVI's own guidelines, I don't have a problem with that, and I don't think most other people do, either.

If people want more immigration, they should vote for a party that promises more immigration. If they want no immigration, they should vote for one that promises that. Either way, those policies should be campaigned on and whoever wins should implement their mandate without the divisive rhetoric that inflames people and legitimizes the terrorism we've seen the past few days.

Or is it asking to not continually be everyone's whipping boys too much because we are immigrants?

I agree with not some, but ALL your points above.
For context, the debate started when someone posted how poor the Tories records have been on immigration and how ‘anti-immigrant’ the Tories are. I only wanted to quote the figures, and to quote Sir Keir Starmer who said “Rishi Sunak is the most liberal PM the UK has ever had when it comes to immigration”

Goke7:
their news exploration has no value addition here, kindly take it to the appropriate platform. Thank you

Goke7:
You have no right to ask Zahra29 (or anyone at all) to take their opinion to another platform given that not even 1 single rule was broken.
You want to live in an echo chamber where the only voices & opinions you hear are ones that agree with you? Then Nairaland (and especially this thread) is not for you.

Read all the Nairaland rules and tell me if Zahra29 has broken a single one. I think you should take a chill pill. And if the opinions don’t tally with your views, it is YOU who needs to move.

missjekyll:
You know dang well none of that was intentional. It was all due to their woeful failures. But rather than admit we needed immigrants to run this country, they hypocritically spout anti immigration rhetoric in front while approving hundreds of thousands of work visas secretly.

But it’s a fact. The conservatives have issued more visas to immigrants than all labour governments combined (source: personal knowledge/lived experience).

By the way, do you happen to know Sir Keir Starmer’s stand on immigration?
During the elections, he promised to bring down migration numbers if elected.

budaatum:
You might as well quote Kamala Harris to prove Biden is racist too, when they will tell you it's debate rhetoric.

Some of us can never forget the anti-immigrant laws going back to Margaret Thatcher, who made it possible for white commonwealths to continue to come here while black commonwealths were not, or Johnson's comments about burqas, and all their black washing wouldn't change that, not even after they reluctantly nominated Sunak as their leader whom they rejected until Truss blew them up.

The UK has welcomed more immigrants during Tory rule than during all non-Tory rules combined.
In 1 year of Tory rule alone, net migration was over 650,000. Tell me any non-Tory government that has ever done that?
The Number of Nigerians (alone) that migrated to the UK (under a Tory health & care visa) within the last 2 years is in hundreds of thousands.

Yet, you claim it’s the Tories that are anti-immigration. One thing I am certain about is that over the years, Tory Governments have been much tougher on ILLEGAL immigration, sometimes leading to unintended consequences (such as the scandal with Windrush folks). But more immigrants (net migration) entered the UK during Johnson -Sunak premiership than during Tony Blair - James Brown. Figures . Figures & facts.

kwakudtraveller:
Perhaps you should also take training on emotional intelligence.

Thanks for your recommendation. But I already have that. In abundance. Unless if your definition of emotional intelligence means only people who agree with your opinions are emotionally intelligent.

Goodenoch:
That's not what you were asked though.

Your training must have also taught you to respond to questions with empty answers that say a lot but mean nothing, because you seem very good at it. I don't mean that to be offensive BTW - It's actually a good skill to have in some professions.

The question you were asked is "is that what you told your friend whose husband was attacked"?

Or, if your husband was attacked, would you tell him "darling sorry about this gash in your head but did you know that the government is spending 8 million on asylum seekers daily? And in fact did you also know that the UK is not training as many nurses as it needs? Those are the underlying issues why you were attacked"

You did not notice that those were 2 different posts by me?
The second post was me writing about part of the long term solutions (which every reasonable govt the world over should) to the problems outlined in the first post.

I notice that no one has yet justified that it is okay for any country to spend £8,000,000:00 per day on hotels for Illegal migrants/asylum seekers.

budaatum:
I'm certain I missed your point, so apologies in advance.

A month ago, the majority of us voted out the more anti-immigrant Torys, and voted in a more pro-immigrant Labour. The most anti-immigrant Reform Party got a grand total of 5 mps. Some constituencies even elected Muslim mps and mayors.

The change we elected is what these nazis are opposing.

@ the bolded
That’s the problem. Facts & figures don’t matter. Just keep regurgitating lines without evidence.

Rishi Sunak (CONSERVATIVES) is "the most liberal prime minister we've ever had on immigration".

Guess who made the quote above?
If you know who made that quote, you will see why your argument above falls like a pack of cards.

When it comes to immigration, the Tories are damned if they do, damned if they don’t. The Tories are/were accused by folks like you to be anti-immigration. Meanwhile, the Labour Leader (as of June 4 2024) accused the Tory prime minister of being the most immigration-liberal PM the UK has ever had. Shuoooo…

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/tax-immigration-keir-starmer-rishi-sunak-leader-tv-debates-general-election-b1162131.html#


PS: If not for the very friendly and liberal immigration policies of the Tories (such as Health Care Visa, unbundling the tier-2 visa, Global talent visa etc…) a lot, lot of immigrants (including many on this thread) wouldn’t have immigrated to the UK.
Under the Tories, net (LEGAL) migration for Last year was over 650,000. Yet, some folks still keep rehashing the lines that Tories are anti-migration and Labour is pro-migration.

kwakudtraveller:
I hope that this was not the conversation that you had with your friend, whose husband was attacked with stones.

In my training, I have been taught to look at things in the round. I am never ever a one-sided kinda woman. Never. I cannot see black but call it white because I am black. Or see green and call it red because red is the colour of the party or football club that I support.

missjekyll:
what crime asylum seekers are guilty of and why they haven't been arrested.


TIP: They are NOT guilty of any crime. You are allowed to come here to claim asylum by any means possible.

Why then is the PM always on about ‘smashing the gangs’?
According to MissJekyll, “you are allowed to come here to claim asylum BY ANY MEANS. Why then is the current government insisting they want to prosecute 1 of those ‘any means’ by “smashing the gangs”? Or is it only missjekyll that understands that law?

If truly the law says they people can arrive the UK by any means to claim asylum, that means it’s a misplacement of priority to want to ‘smash the gangs’.

Goodenoch:
Who; specifically, are these illegal migrants and under what law are they illegal?

Sorry. There are no illegal immigrants. When Sir Keir Starmer talks about Smashing the gangs, he actually meant the gangs of Border force personnel who stamp the entry visas for folks coming off the boats.

justwise:
Can you provide any official source to support that claim?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66855830.amp

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/150-asylum-hotels-returned-to-communities

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/sep/19/cost-housing-asylum-seekers-hotels-rise-home-office

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/19/home-office-spend-8-million-a-day-housing-migrants-hotels/

Do you need more sources??

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justwise:
That money goes back into British economy, its not given to asylum seekers to send back home, its a contract given to British companies, hotels housing asylum seekers are owned by British people, they employ to work in those hotels and asylum centres.

By your logic, it means circa 3billion pounds on hotel bills is bang for buck?

kwakudtraveller:
There’s no justification for what is happening; boats or no boats. Black Brits are also being attacked, so there’s no need to try to make sense of the situation. I’m a tax-paying immigrant with no access to public funds, but word on the street is that we are enjoying free housing and cars, yet part of the taxes I pay goes into benefits payments for the same people who’ll see me on the street and attack me because I’m black.

it is not sustainable for any country in the world to spend ~ £3,000,000,000:00 only annually on hotels bills for people who enter their country ILLEGALLY. Meanwhile legal residents of that same country are not getting GP appointments.

While this may be an unpopular opinion (here), it is a fact.

Again, I repeat. These wanton attacks and destruction is abhorrent. But, the Govt needs to think very carefully about the grievances the rioting lot may be having.

PS: I am never the one to shy away from holding opinions, especially given the evidence.

Very interesting debate going on here. So refreshing to read the views.

I still think the UK needs to be tough, very very tough on the issue of illegal migration and the issues of small boats crossings. The PM promised to ‘smash the gangs’ I hope he will smash the gangs much sooner rather than latter.

As a (legal) migrant myself, I find it outrageous and to be honest, appalling that any country in the world should follow the UK model.

a. You allow illegal migrants to get to your shores in small boats (the argument that some are genuine asylum seekers is for another day).

b. You spend £8,000,000:00 every SINGLE day on hotels for these arrivals. 2024 is a leap year. 366 days.
£8,000,000:00 x 366 = £2,928,000,000:00 per year (read: Two Billion, Nine Hundred and Twenty Eight Million Pound Sterlings) on ‘Migrant hotels’ ALONE.

c. You can’t train homegrown nurses. A& E units are full to the brim. You even take away winter allowance for your pensioners. You cry everyday about budget black holes. You tax the people. You increase taxes. You can’t lift the cap on 2-child benefits etc…


While what these rioters are doing in places is extremely abominable, I hope the UK govt will take immediate steps to solve some of the immediate/root cause(s) of the riots.


Full Disclosure: I 100% supported the defunct “Rwanda Scheme”.

Stay safe my dear people.
My friend’s husband had stones thrown at him in Liverpool 2 days ago.

You really know how bad it is, when my other half’s cousin called him yesterday (from Nigeria) to plead with him to stay safe. Na wa oh… Considering the part of Nigeria my husband is from, it says a lot if it’s from there they are calling their brother in England, asking him to stay safe.

missjekyll:
I mean I have repeatedly explained what 'far' means but I cannot understand it for you. I can only throw ignoramuses a rope of knowledge in their deep mire of ninnyhammerness,I cannot force them to climb up it. Hey ho...shrugs

A defining characteristic of far right people or far-left people is that they think anyone who is not in their far-camp is an ignoramus.

Enough said.