Mekusxyz:

It does not matter what Ilorin was. As of today, Ilorin is ruled by an islamic ruler of Fulani origin as well as politically by Fulani people (Saraki). Fulani has since conquered Ilorin and it is now their vassal territory. Surely you are not about implying that a true Yoruba enclave is being ruled by somebody of a different tribe. That will be shameful, you know. When has a Yoruba ruled Kwara inn an elected manner? What sort of majority are they then in Kwara? Majority slaves and underdogs?
Civial Governors of Kwara State. How many are Yoruba in a so-called Yoruba majority state?

Adamu Atta Governor October 1979 October 1983 NPN 
Cornelius Olatungi Adebayo Governor October 1983 December 1983 NPN 
   
Shaaba Lafiaji Governor January 1992 November 1993 SDP 
 
Mohammed Lawal Executive Governor 29 May 1999 29 May 2003 ANPP 
Bukola Saraki Executive Governor 29 May 2003  PDP

Maybe you should educate yourself about the origin of these men.  Mind you I am a not a fan of any  one of them.
Three of them are pure Yorubas regardless of any nonsense Saraki might say, he's simply trying to pull a political stunt.
For the other two, one is Ebira, a subset of Yoruba, the other is from Kwara North.
None of them is Fulani,

In any event,  who is/was a Governor has nothing to do with the fact that Kwara state is at least 95 percent  Yoruba.
Kwarans will tell you that.
Why do you keep twisting the issue anyway? I am done with you.

Mekusxyz:

Ilorin is not Yorubaland. Dont let Saraki and Gambari get you. It is a fulani muslim enclave ruled by a northern muslim. Hahahah! Most of those schools of then probably had 1-10 students in attendance.

Ilorin is not Yoruba land because Saraki said so?? Did you even hear yourself?
Ilorin is not only Yoruba, it is 99.999 percent Yoruba. The entire kwara state is at least 95 percent undiluted Yoruba

Since you missed West African history in school, see below links.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilorin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwara_State

Mekusxyz:

There is nothing to man up here. I was asking for dates to establish the fact. BTW, there are also mission schools established in the East. The fact that Lagos has most of the mission schools tells the influence of early contact with Europeans. That, no doubt gives Lagos, and not necessarily the entire Yorubaland, a headstart. But Igbos have since regained the impetus and actually supplanted Yorubas in education. The fact that mission schools were established in parts of Yorubaland in the mid to late 1800 but they got their first university graduate in the late-early 1900 could mean that Yorubas did not even harness the presence of the mission schools properly. Another education is needed here. Please comment. Thanks.

Earliest Western schools in Nigeria

Abia State
• Methodist College Uzuakoli 1923
• Government College Umuahia, Umuahia, est. 1929
Anambra State
• C.K.C Onitsha, est. 1937
• Dennis Memorial Grammar school, Onitsha, est. 1925
•Oyo State
• Ibadan Grammar School, Ibadan. Est. 31 March 1913.
• Government College, Ibadan, est. 1929
Cross River State
• Hope Waddell Training Institution, Calabar, est. 1895
•Ogun State
• Abeokuta Grammar School, Idi Aba, Abeokuta, est. 1908
• Baptist Boys High School, Abeokuta, est. 1923
• Ijebu-Ode Grammar School, Ijebu-Ode, est. 1913
Lagos State
• Baptist Academy, Obanikoro, established 1855
• Baptist Boys High School, Yaba, est. 1885
• Eko Boys High School, Mushin, est. 1913
• Igbobi College, Yaba, est. 1932
• King's College, Lagos, est. 1909
• Methodist Boys High School, Yaba, est. 1878
• Methodist Girls High School, Yaba, est. 1879
• C.M.S Grammar School, Bariga, est. 1859

Dude, please stop embarrasing yourself in a public forum. You are implying that though the schools were built in Yoruba land but ibo people
were the one atending them because of their nomadic nature. Does that even sound like logic to you?

The first school in Ibo land was almost 64 years behind the first school in Yorubaland.
We are not even talking one school here, we are talking several schools that predate even NIGERIA as a country, and yet you want us to
believe that Ibo were the majority in those schools -some warped reasoning only you can pull out of your you know where.

Dude, We are talking 1850's when travelling from point A to B was an Herculean task.
I do not need to educate you further,  you can continue to believe your own hype. -- Iwo lo ni dun dun e.

BTW, you omitted Government Secondary School, Ilorin, 1914

edoyad:

All these old fools that destroyed this country. I wonder why political assassins never see it fit to end their misery, spineless dogs .

While I do not disagree wit you that these men are spineless dogs as you called them, don't you think
they have at least done the honorable thing this time?

The more people that call out, the more pressure that mounts on Yaradua.

Mekusxyz:

Hahahah! All mission schools were they teach Bible knowledge. In this case muslims schools in Northern Nigeria preceed them.

Okoromado,

You are beaten. Man up and be a true Okoro and receive your lashes.  Most Nigerian greats went to those schools.

if you didn't know that the earliest Nigerian schools were established by the missionaries, then, like I suggested
earlier, you should enroll in first grade Nigerian history pronto, and stop embarrassing yourself with your
blind argument.

Dede1:

@reporter?

I am of the view that you and your famous Internet junky called Ozodi Osuji are mentally deficient. Neither the Jews nor Ndigbo have drummed the idea of their superiority to anybody.

All Ndigbo have requested and will continue to request is an innocuous sentiment of achieving sovereign status for Igbo land. I do not feel that the call of equal playing ground for everybody in Nigeria on matters that concern any human endeavor engenders any display of superiority complex.

Ozodi Osuji has issue  with Osu system in Igbo land and I think it is understandable but I can not fathom your issues with superiority complex or lack thereof.

Are you a Jew? Why bring in Jew into this?
Self-denial is your problem. You need not go far to hear chants of supremacy from your folks. 
The pages of NL are littered with perceived Ibo supremacy from your stock. Rants and delusion if you ask me.
I will cull more of Ozodi Osuji's papers for you to enjoy!
You deny the obvious actions of your folks.

Mekusxyz:

Name at least one specific school from your list established in 1840, then I can check it out. Thanks.

Not a problem

Here are some for you to chew on.

Baptist Academy, Lagos 1855
Baptist Boys High School, Lagos 1885
Methodist Boys High School, Lagos 1878
Methodist Girls High School, Lagos 1879
C.M.S Grammar School, Bariga, Lagos 1859

Now that I have obliged you, will you now answer my question?

aloy-emeka:

How did Gold deposits turn into Igbo/Yoruba war?

Good question.
Ever since Okoromado (mekuss) came into the forum

Mekusxyz:

Provide dates and names and let's work around those. FACTS not fiction. Thanks. Igbos were holding higher positions pre war Nigeria. That is a FACT, to the extent that UI, UNILAG and YabaTech all had their first indigenous heads as Igbos.

[b]I [/b]asked you to name a school. I have given you the names of those schools. Majority of them were established in
post 1840's. It is incumbent upon you to counter.
Don't duck the question.

Mekusxyz:


Many of the earliest schools were also found in Igboland and in Eastern Nigeria. But be reminded that Igbos began their migratory tendenceis way back in time such that Igbos were studying outside of Igboland. Zik, Cyprian Ekwensi and a host of other Igbo pioneers studied partly in and out of Igboland even as far away as in Sierra Leone. How come most senior/useful positions before Biafra war were held more by Igbos than by Yoruba?

Name a[b] SINGLE[/b] school that predates schools in the SW. Whoever told you that your people held senior postions lied to you.
All those claims are part of the post-war propaganda told to young ones. They are nothing but fairy tales.
Check out most of the names of the indigenous ministers. They were Yoruba. Your folks by nature are traders before and after the war.

And if you must know, all those schools mentioned were established way before Zik's time

Okoromado,

Why don't you do your own research? I'm sure if you had a counter, you would have produced it.
Don't know why it is hard for you to accept that most of the Nigerian firsts pace-setters professionals
were Yorubas.
Fact is - ALL the earlier schools in Nigeria were located in Yoruba land. CMS Lagos. Bapt Acad Lagos, Baptist Boys Lagos
Methodist boys Lagos, Methodist girls Lagos.  Kings college Lagos, Eko Boys High School, Lagos, Abeokuta Grammar School, Abeokua.
Ibadan Grammar School, Ibadan. Ijebu-Ode Grammar School, Ijebu-Ode, Government Secondary School, Ilorin.

By this sheer overwhelming number of earliest schools in Yorubaland,  don't you think that the first wave of indigenous professionals will be
Yorubas? Unless you want to argue blindly (you are known for that.)

Mekusxyz:

Akigbemaru said 3 Yorubas. I know about Herbert Macaulay (HM) already. I am asking for the 3 names (including, of course, HM). Surely 3 is not = 1. [b]I am trying to learn her[/b]e. And it has to be proven they were the first in AFRICA, all all fields of Engineering. That is the claim. Thanks

Okoromado

You lie!  You are not trying to learn jack!  Going by your mentality, you always want to discredit anything Yoruba.
You would have disproved Akigbemaru's assertion if you could.

SEFAGO:

I like this new name for mekusxyz

Fits like a glove.

mekusxyz  = OKOROMADO   It rhymes

Mekusxyz:

Can you give us their names so we can verify. I like facts not fiction. Another Yoruba lie is about to be punctured.

Okoromado boy

If you had no idea that Herbert Macaulay, grandson of bishop Samuel Ajayi Crowther, was the first Nigerian engineer, you should
go enroll in first grade history.
Matter of fact, most Nigerian firsts were Yoruba.  Read your history
Don't be a hater okoromado.

EzeUche:

THIS IS THE MOST TRIBALISTIC THREAD I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!  

My Igbo brothers and you Yorubas need to cut all this tribalism out. You know the Hausa are probably laughing at us. They know that the south is divided.

Damn yeye tribalist!!!

Mekuxx, Willy Wiily, Sunny Bobo, metal-gong  (likely to be one or two confused individuals )
are for the most part the instigators of tribal bashiing.
You should condemn him (them) first!

Normal persons shrug off their silly claims of innocence for they instinctively realize that where there is smoke there is fire. If you are routinely attacked by other persons there must be something about you that makes them attack you. People don’t just get up and attack whoever they see. People attack the neurotic who feels superior to them for it makes human beings feel angry for other human beings to feel better than them.

All human beings, black and white, the various African tribes are the same and equal. Therefore, if you fancy yourself better than other persons you infuriate them and they want to attack you, if only to teach you the lesson that you are not better than them.
The mad man does not learn from experience and instead go about pretending to be superior to other persons. No amount of rational feedback to him that he is the same and equal to other persons makes him give up his delusion of superiority, for that delusion is a mask for his perceived sense of inferiority.
We all feel like we are inferior and are not special. The exigencies of being a human being, an animal that knows that nature does not treat him as if he is special, an animal that would like to be special yet an animal that nature snuffs out and dies and rots and smells to high heaven. We feel like we are nothing special and would like to feel like we are special, important, and superior. But healthy persons know that they are none of those things hence accept their humble selves.

Culled from Ozodi Thomas Osuji Ph.D EXPLORING IGBOS MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES

"We, black folk, feel insulted when white folk feel superior to us. We feel insulted because we know that despite the fact that white scientific and technological civilization is ahead of black civilization that all human beings are the same and equal. Come to think of it; one can understand why confused white racists feel superior to blacks for their material civilization is obviously ahead of Africans material civilization. But can one understand why Igbos should feel superior to other Africans? What in Igbo civilization makes Igbos seem superior to other Nigerians? Is it their underdeveloped political structure and culture before white men came to Nigeria? The very Hausas and Yorubas they feel superior to attained what Marxist call feudal political state (a prelude to the contemporary bourgeois state) and they, Igbos, were only at the rudimentary communalistic stage of socio-political development"

Culled from Ozodi Thomas Osuji Ph.D EXPLORING IGBOS MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES

Psychology 101 For Mekuxx, Sunny-Bobo, Willy-Willy

"These people feel so inferior about themselves that they rejected themselves and identified with others, those they imagine are superior persons, Jews, and want you to collude with their obvious paranoia and tell them that they are Jews (read, tell them that they are superior persons, as they imagine Jews are) and if you do not they feel mad at you.
     We have to explore why these people are doing what they are doing, for it is no longer a laughing matter. They generally run around fancying themselves superior to their Nigerian neighbors. They seize on flimsy evidence to justify their delusion of superiority. They would tell you that Hausas do not qualify to directly enter Nigerian universities (what it takes to qualify to enter Nigerian universities would not qualify you to enter good universities elsewhere, so qualification is always relative). They glibly tell you that Hausas enter universities on quota grounds. You ask them to provide you with evidence for their claims. Providing evidence for their delusional claims is not one of their strong points. Clearly, Hausas are as qualified as any other Nigerians to attend Nigeria’s universities.
      There is no shred of evidence that the Igbos are superior to any other Nigerian tribe (their average scores on standard IQ tests, such as Stanford-Binnet and WAIS/WISC, are the same as those of other Nigerians; they perform at the same levels on SAT, GRE and other college entrance examinations as other Nigerians). Their feeling of superiority is imaginary, is based on their rejection of their real selves and identification with fantasy ideal selves"  

Culled from Ozodi Thomas Osuji Ph.D  EXPLORING IGBOS MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES

Onlytruth:


Let me tell you plainly, if I will gain $100 for staying in Nigeria, and gain $1 million for having Biafra, based on what I know now about the Yoruba, I will opt for Nigeria. You know why? Because in Nigeria, I have a real chance to avenge well well on the Yoruba. That vengeance is priceless.

Empty words from a malcontent. You can't do nada.

Ode to nso eledumare, ori egan lo ma ku si.  I know YOU don't the meaning but you can go ask your bros, they
know the meaning. We have colonized them with our language!

onye_ngbu:

why not make your own point.

Have you asked your hate-filled brothers to discontinue their everyday junks?
Go back and check 90 percent of hateful threads. They were opened by your folks.

My point is clear. If you do not like us Yoruba, it is fine by us, but do not come to NL to spill hate
everyday and expects no response at some point  -It has gotten too far from your folks.

Your message should be directed to your folks

Katsumoto:

I really don't understand why grown men will be making idle threats and laying claim to assets that do not belong to them. Why should people who are based abroad be making threats about war, dealing with others, etc. If you were so resilient and brave, you wouldn't have abandoned Nigeria to go and live in a comfortable country. Are we to believe that if a war starts tomorrow, you armchair warriors (OnlyTruth, Mekusxxx) will travel down from your base to Nigeria to fight?

There is not going to be any war; one is more than enough. Whilst Nigerians resident in Nigeria are trying to make a living for themselves and their families with the meagre resources at their disposal, Biafrans, still bitter at events from over 40 years ago, are trying to incite others to take up arms. It is not going to work; you can continue to use your keyboard to let off steam. No one is paying attention. Whilst Mekusxxx never hid his hatred and disdain for the Yoruba from day one, OnlyTruth initially hated the Northerners. After being exasperated by inciting comments from certain Yoruba posters, he switched his hatred to the Yoruba. What does that say about the man?


Akigbemaru and reporter
Please let me appeal to you once again not to make incendiary comments about other tribes. It only inflames issues. If there are individuals like Mekusxxx, Wilywily, OnlyTuth making derogatory comments about Yoruba, then please feel free to attack them. That is what some of the more Igbo posters do. It does not make sense to attack a whole group of people because of the actions of a few. We should be able to debate issues without resorting to insults. We can all throw stones because all our fathers are guilty. By continuing to attack each other, we can not discuss and resolve issues in a civilised manner.

I don tire for all these tribal mudslinging; I think I am going to just stick to the sports section.

@Katsumoto,


I applaud you for maintainaing your composure despite "their"attempts to ruffle you.
However,  their actions cannot be left unchecked.
The Biafrans think they have monopoly of hateful words, obviously they have not been to Ibadan!

You seem like a very objective person and your posts certainly reflect that. Please continue doing
what you do best  -presenting facts; seperating facts from fiction, and dispelling urban legends stuck
in some ppl's mind.

Nairaland is crawling with hateful Biafrans,  they need to be rid of! Obviously, appealing to their deaf ears will
not yield anything meaningful. Many had done that in the past, still they continue.
They've overstayed. It's time to send them packing.

Onlytruth:

And I can't wait for that almighty event!

You can wait all you want. Onlyfool will wait for such day.

You and I know Yoruba land ain't gonna fail. Not today and certainly not in a million years. It is the land of milk
and honey,and so it has been decreed from time memorial.

Quit hating, go to biafra.com, you'll find more pathetic "onlyfools" there who will listen to your
trash.

Mekusxyz:

Oil and Gas in:
Abia (not fully tapped)
Imo (not fully tapped)
Enugu (untapped)
Anambra (about to be tapped)
Igbo parts of Delta and Rivers
is enough for an Igbo country
But oil is a non-renewable resource and is, thus, nothing to be proud of in the long run.

Blah blah blah.
Save us your rants and pack your Bia-stupid bags to Biafailed land.
Yoruba folks have no time for all of you.
Heck! we don't even know you obiomas exist.

Go do your whining on biafra.com, you'll find pathetic greedy people like you there.

Onlytruth:

No, more like this:

Yoruba stole oil from the East to develop Yorubaland

When the oil finishes, they will call for secession of Yorubaland

Then, it will be their time to pay for all their crimes against the East

Every smart Easterner should bear this in mind.

Another idiotic comment by a retarded Biafran Okoromado

Before a single of oil was lifted, Yoruba land had been developed by Yoruba visionaries.
Rewind Nigeria back to pre-1960s and you'll get the gist of how the SW was moving at light-years speed
while you Biafrans are still stuck in your jungle.

Your ill-conceived coup of 1966 that ushers military into Nigeria is what has slowed us down.
If not for you greedy people, Nigeria may never have seen a military rule, but thanks to Biafrans for introducing
coup into Nigeria's landscape.
Yoruba don't need oil to survive. We built the best region amongst all regions in Nigeria without a single drop of oil

And stop all these Easterners nonsense, Biafra is not the same thing as the enitire east -greedy Biafran.
A Biafran will steal the air around him if it's possible.
All of you should go back to your forest.

Onlytruth:

Rabid id'oc'y. How dare you define my boundary? I know you are preparing to hide behind Hausa and gwodo gwodo soldiers again to invade and occupy parts of Igboland. That is when you would realize that Igbos in Lagos will fight you till the last man and Hausa won't help you because they will still have access to oil in the south south areas and the sea. But we Igbos will fight you Yoruba this time for our properties in Lagos. Just get ready because this is not Oyo empire time. Mudder'fu'fker!

Wow!  This is one angry Biafran.  True to form, always ranting.

Why can't you Biafrans stay in your jungles.
Everyday y'all are being killed in the North; still, you keep going back.
I understand, it's greed that is overpowering your sense of judgement.

Everyday you log onto NL to rant and spew your usual victim nonsense.  Why don't you find a job or go work for your brother in a fake drug pharmacy store?

Biafrans will forever be jealous of Awo.
Awo remains the numero uno visionary Nigeria has ever produced.  While your ancestors were busying
with politic pandering, Awo was building the West.  Still evident till tomorrow because your people are still there in the SW making a living.
All of you forest men will forever be a slave of the SW region.

What can I say,  Nairaland has provided cover for you to spew your nonsense.
You should worry about your brothers that are being beheaded in Asia for drug pushing.
Greedy Biafran, will sell his mama for a dime.

reporter?:


children comes home with a same-love mate, then they'll  sing a different song, manliness Chaney, former VP of US
is one example of such right-wing nut.

Looks like some of my words are being subtituted by the spam filter.
I meant D.i.c.k Chaney and not manliness Chaney

~Bluetooth:

Wht is bad is bad so allowing it to stay under any guise of freedom should not be accepted.i will continue to openly discriminate against those lesser animals seeking for recognition.how on earth will a man start chasing a fellow man.f u c k i n g gay-gots children of lucifer.

Bluetooth,

You needn't discriminate against anyone because of their sexual preference.  You only need to dis-approve of their lifestyle.
Gays will always be around just like rogues, thieves, rapists, drug peddlers etc. It is man that extols one type of sin above another.
Sinful act is sinful act, -not to trivialize homosexuality by any means. It is grave and repulsive.
But question for you, what if someone was born with it?   Please enlighten me; except if you want to
argue that people are not born that way.

Right-wings nuts in the US love to shout all the time about gays "this and that."   But wait until one of their own
children comes home with a same-sex partner, then they'll  sing a different song, Dick Chaney, former VP of US
is one example of such right-wing nut.

~Bluetooth:

I'm not against freedom but i dont support freedom when it comes to immorality.soon or later,prost itutes,armed robbers,militants will seek their own right too under the guise of freedom

@Bluytooth,
I see your point and I understand where you coming from. A littlle leaven leavens the whole lot, I guess is your point.


Let me first state it clearly. I do not condone homosexuality nor am I an advocate of Gay rights.

However, we Africans tend to believe that homosexuality is lifestyle or societal induced.
Nothing can be further from the truth. Homosexuality is a disease that affects close to 10 percent of the population.
It is observed in every society, though more pronounced in the West due to their liberalism than other parts of the world.
Homosexuality has been in Nigeria long before you and I were born.
It has nothing to do with the West. The West only influences their coming out "of the closet" so to speak.

You'll find gays in countries where the practice of it is punishable by death (Middle East, South Asia.)
Do you honestly think anybody wants to be gay under such circumstance? 

Dealing with the issues of gays is always a toughie for legislators.
I personally think that Nigeria should not enact any law to encourage more coming out of the closet.
It will only lead to more of more, and before you know it, you have a city in Nigeria as the next Frisco.
The "don't ask don't tell" policy keep things in perspective.
Aggressive gay counseling and treatment should be offered to discourage the continuity of it.

On a side note, why any man would not want a nice "one" is beyond my understanding.

KunFuPanda:

wow!

I have hear lots of stories about yoruba people. Noise makers, empty vessels, back stabbers, slow pokes, bleaching cream ppl, whiteman worshippers, etc,  ,  ,  ,  ,  ,  ,  some1 shld educ8 me on these people

Sunnybobo, KunfuPanda, or Whatever

Your ignorance is alarming!  You have just described your people.
You people whine daily; you are Blacks today, Jews tomorrow, confused and deluded people if there is one.
Again, I repeat myself, you should be thankful to Bishop Ajayi Crowther (Yoruba man) for bringing civilization to you forest men.

You are nothing but another Biafran drug peddler. But guess what? The Hangman is waiting for your people in China and Indonesia.

Ikengawo:

All the ppl saying it doesn't matter

idk about your useless tribe that doesn't even have a language, but we as igbo ppl would like an accurate census so we can know how many we are and not how many ppl want us to be. shut up.



anyways, and reachrich said the Jamb proves that igbos are either.

1. the majority in nigeria
2. intellectually superior to all other nigerians in overwhelming leaps and bounds


out music and movie industry says the same thing as well as our business environment
and you know the inaccurate poo about the census?

igobs in other states, but they constitute the largest minority in every non igbo state, are being considered members of that states dominate tribe. dont only add thep opluation of the east when adding the population of igbnos, count lagos  and a %age of every other staet cause we know that yrbas and huasa don't leave their areas.

Another Biafran loony just escaped from the forest, and now loose on the streets of Nigeria. 
You cannot even articulate your point properly.  Yet you claim to be intellectually superior -in your dreams.

What a waste of Seun's bandwidth -doubt if you know what that means, spare part boy