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Eko Ile:
Buhari got the north on lock no doubt, the SW should just go ahead and let Bakare have the SW.

Game/Set Match,

Sounds like the most logical thing to do; however, ACN does not want to lose its relevance at the national level. The only
way for ACN to stay relevant is to have their own flag bearer. It's a selfish thing to do, but it's the best political move for ACN if
they want to stay in limelight. A party without a presidential candidate is a no party.

More so, they've learnt their lesson from 2003 experience when OBJ tricked them into not fielding a candidate.

Eko Ile:
Unfortunately, this is like everyday and people don't win the lottery like everyday.

Nice try though,

Ibos, always finding a way to condone crime, little wonder their villages are crime ridden.

Very sad indeed. This nonsense must stop!

Ibos and aggression. I am sure the guy has some lame excuse for his dastardly act. Typical Ibo.

Eko Ile:
I wonder why we normally don't see all the negative people in posts like this,

I guess it's not negative enough for them,

Of course they thrive on negativity!
BTW,  do you work for Lagos State or you just love your State this much? Either way, your dedication is commendable.
Thanks for the news.

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=597121.msg7650152#msg7650152 date=1296613228]He should be calling for infrastructural development for Aba, Onitsha & Nnewi.[/quote]Commissioner for Economic Planning and Budgeting, Mr. Ben Akabueze, is obligated to Lagos State only and nobody else in discharge of his duties as a duly sworn minister of Lagos State.

If any state wants their own Akabueze, let them appoint one.

Lagos State realizes the potentials of the man, and rightfully appointed him.  Let every state follows in the footsteps of Lagos and appoint non-indigenous people as executives, and not some window dressing “Special Adviser.”  Anyway, more than likely, Akabueze is a thoroughbred Lagosian.

cheikh:
Mai Suya


@Mai Suya

Well, you'll wait forever for a debate that will never happen. One is a serving Minister of Finance of the Federal Rep. of Nigeria and the other is an ex- Governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria, presently, perhaps, unemployed . It's most inappropriate for a minister to engage in 'phoney' debates no matter how tempting/provocative etc. It's technically beneath his office do so publicly with any tom, Di-ck and harry, whether the ex- governor of the central bank or not. The protocol of office does not allow/tolerate such frivolous behaviour. He may do so after he's left the office/position of Minister of Finance if he chooses to engage in tittle-tattle .
The current Central bank governor but for his volubility, cannot/ should not engage in such tittle-tattle but focus on his task. Politics is best left to his masters/ministers and not part of his brief no matter how 'seductive' it is to give the Nigerian media audience quotable 'quips' for headlines.

True words you’ve spoken.  A serving minister cannot engage every Tom, Dic-k, and Harrry who calls him out to a debate
no matter the level of provocation.

It is only in an insane society like Nigeria that you’ll find any inept ex-governor who failed to deliver the simplest of his tasks, and still
wants to make himself the object of adulation.

Agaga, on the other hand should just focus on the job he’s appointed to do. Nigeria has serious economic issues. This is not the time to BS around. We need J-O-Bs, wealth creation etc!!!

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=596307.msg7642661#msg7642661 date=1296513266]You are despicable bk.babe. Words cannot explain how much I dislike you.[/quote]Truth is that you are not too different from BK,  it's just that he has a bigger than you.

jason123:
This Onlutruth sef! . So you have been monitoring your "enemies", abi? . No one is fight anyone. May peace reign!!!

Onlytruth:
Let me leave for now by saying the following to help educate my Igbo brothers about Yoruba mindset which should help us in the future if necessary.

Lesson 1:

In a conflict, Yoruba lack conscience, and they can do ANYTHING to win over the Igbo.  So bear that in mind. If you tell a Yoruba to sleep with his mother as part of a "juju ritual" that will give him victory over the Igbo, he would do it. Igbo would not, even if he would lose the war because of it. MAJOR difference. So, never forget that.

Lesson 2:

Yoruba, though weak and cowardly, can stay a course of action for a long time. If you doubt me, look at Akintola Williams accounting firm and find out how long it has been there. Same with Rotimi Williams law firm. Igbo are more of the "100 meter dash" type, so we need to bear that in mind. We will likely gain the upper hand over them fast in a war, but we need to sustain it over a long time.


There are MANY more lessons about them which I can NEVER discuss here.
Bye for now.

Signing off,

Onlytruth.  

Going to Ivory Coast in search of peace?

OBJ may have so many flaws; however, political deftness is certainly not one of those flaws.
OBJ is an astute politician.  Underrate him at your own peril!  He is laffing all the way!

You may say what you want about GEJ too, but he is learning very fast from the maestro.

Thanks for posting - great insight into the politics of yester years.

Why the hoopla over this article.  This article in not in anyway to denigrate Zik, Awo or Buhari; it is to highlight mistakes made by Zik.
I can only imagine where Nigeria would have been had Zik cooperated with Awo. Buhari is definitely treading the same path by not supporting a vibrant Ribadu who I believe can take us to the Promised Land

As the OP opines, history is about to repeat itself.

There is really nothing wrong with APGA or any other party for that matter in fielding a candidate for the governorship of Lagos State.
If anything, it is good for democracy –it’s a wake-up call to AC that other parties are eyeing the most prized city in Nigeria.

I personally think that this coalition does not amount to anything. If PDP cannot win Lagos, a coalition of some obscure parties does not stand chance.

ajayij:
@Op,

Moslems domination of Lagos State/Yoruba politics is a recent phenomenon. The earlier politicians from the SW were xtians like Awolowo, Akintola, TOS Benson, Akinjide, Bola Ige Abraham Adesanya etc. Infact in the first republic I think every Yoruba politician was a xtian probably because the christians were more educated and embraced western education quicker.

Another false statement saying all Lagos State Governors have been Moslems, Sir Michael Otedola ruled Lagos.

In the NRC elections Prof Femi Agbalajobi (xtian) and Yomi Edu(Xtian) were deadlocked in the primaries before Michael Otedola(Xtian) picked the ticket and defeated Dapo Sarumi of the SDP another xtian in the elections.

In the SW, I notice that xtians tend to gravitate away from politics towards career professions. Its the general belief that Politics is dirty and most monogamous xtian families wont even allow their children to vote never mind contest

Well said. Yoruba people are more united by culture than religion.  To further bolster your point, the second
republic governors under UPN were mainly Christians except for LKJ who is a Muslim.

If Saraki leaves PDP for another party. PDP will definitely lose Kwara and possibly Kogi as well. It's not looking good for PDP.
Hopefully, AC can capitalize on this internal rumblings within the PDP

Katsumoto:
The disintegration of Nigeria will resolve some current problems and issues but I can guarantee you that new ones will replace them in the new republic.

Of course splitting Nigeria will resolve some of today’s issues, but create some initial issues which I believe would be resolved in due time.
We have to agree that Nigeria is not working out –the issues we face are too numerous to list.
If we split along cultural and political line, I think we would be OK.

I am certain that Yoruba nation will fare well. Lagos and Oyo will provide the initial economic backbone of the new nation, Ondo and Ogun will provide initial natural resources while we sort ourselves out. If Edo and Itsekiri join, both will add more to the initial natural resources pool.
The necessary infrastructures are in place.   Schools, roads, hospitals, and etc that are currently over extended because of “others” will now serve only the indigenes of the new state. By “indigenes,” I mean people who constitute the new nation -Yoruba, Edo, Itsekiri, Egun, Ilaje, and etc.
It will be interesting to see.

[quote author=Ochi_Agha link=topic=574674.msg7412080#msg7412080 date=1293388100]I still see you are carrying your beef with me from the other thread to the other thread. If you actually read my first post, I describing how the South-West has a lot to offer in terms of mineral resources such as natural gas. There was no "tribal superiority" in my post. I was simply correcting people ignorance about the South-East. Saying that the South-East population is not large or the South-East is the least endowed region, must be disputed with extreme prejudice. So read a thread before you make asinine statements.

Also, concerning the Edo people, maybe you should read about how the Midwest came to be. Most Bini people were upset with the Yoruba bloc dominating them in the Western region. That is why they saw the need to create the Midwest region, to prevent Yoruba domination. Everyone knows this. Even though the Yoruba and the Bini people have a shared history, these people are not the same, nor do they see themselves the same politically. So just stop the nonsense and ask the Bini people.[/quote]I think you should get your facts right, I am part Edo lineage, and I do see my self culturally and politically more aligned with the SW than any other group. Most Edo will affirm that save for a few.
If there is no election malpractice, Edo will vote the same line as SW because of their political and cultural ties with SW.
As previously said by a poster, some people you assume are Yoruba today are actually Edo.
And if Nigeria were to split, Edo would undoubtedly swing SW or form an independent state if that option is available.

Beaf:
So the matter was a storm in a teacup afterall! Bakare puts the blame for the miscommunication on Uranta and Orubebe. He seems to be quite exercised about the reaction of govt officials, who must have seen SNG's strange rejection of cover of their costs as a set up; perhaps, both sides should have approached the press jointly on the issue.

Quite clearly, the govt invited SNG and an offer was made to cover their transport, hotel and other costs (as is due and customary); but the SNG has made it clear that they will always pay their costs. Its just crossed wires.

There is nothing customary about dashing out YOUR money. As a citizen, you should be concerned that the office of the Presidency 
is engaging in such despicable act.
We are know it's a subtle bribe. No one expects the presidency to say "here is 50k bribe."

violent:
I bet this was probably recorded without the pastor's consent and that's unethical.

But in all, it threw more light into the dark

Phone interviews are usually recorded in order to transcribe for print.

Anyway, this recording provides clarity as to what truly transpired at Aso Rock. Kudos to SNG for maintaining their integrity.

stranger:
Kwara is firmly in the grips of Saraki
Kwara votes for whomever Saraki wants them to vote for

I dont buy the crap that Kwara will vote AC, they never voted for AG, and did not vote for AD, why would they vote AC
Not sure if Ogun will vote AC overwhelmingly
OGD is not a novice
Also, OYO and Osun, not sure if they will go with AC all the way.

AD won Oyo and Osun because of Bola Ige, now he is gone, and there is no one like him around
Bisi Akande is not well liked in Osun
and the other old guy from Oyo, the former goevernor, is not that articulate

Anyway, Tinubu can only do so much!

The entire SW will vote AC. There is an avalanche sweeping thru the SW!  The momentum has changed in SW in favor of AC. PDP is seen all across the SW as a party of evil.
Do you for once believe that Ogun peeps want to see the likes of OGD again or the likes of Akala in Oyo? It is over for PDP in SW.

kwara will follow suit as well in due time. Ilorin is different from kwara. Saraki has Ilorin on lock but not Kwara; the rest of Kwara are Awoists, and will vote AC next general.
Even if the entire kwara state does not swing AC, a big chunk will vote AC, enough to give Buhari some crucial votes.
Anyway, this development is good if it is true. PDP is Nigeria's worst nightmare.

stranger:
Even if he were to be interested in running
I still do not understand how Fashola would help/enhance Buhari''s candidacy

Either ways ACN is badluck
You cannot become the president using ACN as a platform; the whole "we sucked Awo's manliness" isnt going to fly anywhere beyond the SW.

Atiku tried it, he failed woefully.

Fashola brings a lot to the table. He is very popular amongst progressives, a lot of people like him for the job he is doing in Lagos.
Buhari is very popular in the North, without rigging, Buhari will flog any candidate in the North.

On issue of  AC, Nigerians still vote party line, AC will sweep SW, Edo, Kwara. Given these circumstances, Buhari can win it all!
If Buhari wins, expect to see progressives from all regions to play active role. I have confidence in Buhari than the rest of the lot. Ribadu would get my vote if he were to
run though.

DapoBear:
I am fine with Fashola moving up too. He has a great track record, and is young enough to succeed Buhari.

Really, all I want the ACN to do is to field the strongest ticket possible. Not some weakling Ribadu ticket. If we actually fight hard, we can beat the PDP, I think. Putting out Ribadu means we aren't even trying to compete.

EDIT: Fashola is only 47 years old. Which is perfect. . .

Buhari/AC combination is the best for Nigeria.  Nigeria's biggest bane is corruption, and Buhari has been proven to be incorruptible.
If Buhari runs with a formidable AC candidate, I am convinced they could win.  

Ribadu will also be a major player in that government should they win.  As you noted, he is not yet electable.
Anyway, I doubt if Tinubu will want to run as Buhari's VP,  he knows he comes with some baggage that may hinder their chances at the general elections.
Fashola is the magic they need to sweep the rug under PDP's feet.

stranger:
^^^

Atiku's case is not proven yet
Also, Atiku has PDM to help him clinch the Ticket

Tinubu does not have that kind of reach.
Tinubu is a well known crook; both in Nigeria and overseas

To answer your question: They are both crooks. However, Tinubu is a bigger crook than Atiku
Also, Atiku builds bridges, Tinubu burns bridges
Already, he is now at loggerheads with Ondo state governor over some silly agreement they had before the governor assumed his post

They guy is just too much baggage
Forget about him.

Atiku has so many cases to anwser both domestic and international.  Both are crooks as you said, however I doubt if Tinubu is a bigger thief.
Atiku is a "multinational rogue" if such a terminology exists.

If Buhari choses the right candidate from AC as his running mate, say someone like Fashola who a lot of people admire, he could win it all.
Buhari will undoubtedly sweep the majority of the North, and AC will deliver SW, EdO, a big chunk of Kwara, and part Kogi.

If Atiku wins the PDP primaries, he'll win some middle belt states and SE, and lose at least half of SS in the general elections and the rest of the nation.
Combination of Buhari and AC will definitely give PDP a good run.  This is the best option for Buhari to get the much needed Southern alliance, without it Buhari is dead in water.

The best option for PDP at this point is Jonathan, he is the only electable candidate they have.

KnowAll:
[size=14pt]Ojukwu gave miscreants like IBB and Abacha  the balls to grasp power. The Seed of discontent was first planted by Nzeogwu, but Ojukwu made it a currency where every cattle rearer with a gun would aspire to be head of state.

Thank God for the death of Yaradua, sanity has been bestowed in the polity.[/size]

The first misdeed belong to Ironsi, another Ibo power monger, who forcibly wrest power from a duly constituted government after the failure of the Ibo led-coup that destroyed the fabric of our young democracy.
Ojukwu is the devil that enshrined emergence of miscreants like IBB, Abacha - fools that emerged after the war who now consider themselves superstars.

To say Ojukwu is a devil is an understatement. This is a coward who left millions to die while he ran away when the heat was too much.
The same fool that will rather see children starve to death  rather than surrender even with imminent defeat staring at him.

The devil that shamelessly demanded landing fee from relief organizations before food could be brought in for innocent civilians.
You mean the devil that married his own god-daughter who is thirty something years his junior.
Is there any name worse than devil? Think Lucifer will suffice.

Every scientist understands that his/her work must withstand the test of time and scrutiny. Emeagwali is no exception to this standard.
Why this issue generates so much passion is beyond words.

The proponents of  Emeagwali do not want to see facts as presented to them. Instead,  they label every critic a racist and other choice names forgetting that one the very first  people to expose him was an Ibo lady by the name of Chioma K. Ezeilo.
She did not set out to expose him,  but she got curious because the numbers did not add up. Like all diligent people, she took it upon herself to investigate the truth further before she wrote her piece. From thereon, critics start to dig further.

Fact  Check, Gordon Bell is no where analogous to Nobel Prize both in recognition and price money. It takes years of research and dedication in a chosen field to win a Nobel.
So why the inference by Philip that the Bell Prize is like the Nobel of computing if not to embellish the value of Bell award to the ever gullible public?
There is no basis for comparison. Every year the world awaits the announcement of Nobel winners -such is the prestige associated with Nobel


Fact Check.  Ememgwali had nothing to with the Internet either at the infancy or at maturity of the project. Arrogating the title of "Father of the Internet" to himself is an affront to the real pioneers of the Internet. By using the word Father of the Internet, he is implicitly saying Internet was conceived by him! How ludicrous! There is no other way to construe the word " Father" in this instance.

Fact Check. Zip patent to his name, yet he claims he has over forty inventions.

Fact Check Zip peer review for a scientist of this magnitude.


Emegwali in my own opinion may not be guilty of any criminal code, however, he is guilty of deception, and undue embellishment of his credentials and profiting from the deception.
Is Emeagwali intelligent? Absolutely. He is not your average Joe in terms of academic intelligence, but that does not ascribe him the rights to deceive the public.  Moi 2 cents