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[quote author=InvisibleB post=69989194]Hello Nlanders
You know how they say you never forget your first? Yeah they are right. So today my mind drifted to when i was younger and i thought about my Ex. So after more than 5 years i decided to check my Ex out on facebook for the first time and my Ex was doing better than me. I am a competitive person and felt bad that i was not were i should be, having made some financial/investment mistakes. I thought about the fact that if we met again i would rather the meeting be "We were young and made mistakes.Wished we handled issues better" rather than "Hell yeah! Good riddance to bad rubbish" I am miserable and want some company. Share your experience if you have felt this way before [/quote

I think it is okay....people come and go. We meet ones, and loss old ones. Those we consider our first, just came along and happen to strike something with them.

But that is in the past now....yap it is okay wondering how they fare now. For me, I have moved on and very grateful to God, where I find myself.

So, be grateful to Jah, for being alive and make good use of your time, to make yourself a better person. There are millions of exciting friends you have not met . Work on self improvement to gain more friends...

My brother, at 25 years old? You nor be SS . Your parents will know if you are SS within 6months of your birth.

That is a fact.

If you have been normal all your life, you will be normal for the remaining part of your life, because you are not SS.

Sicklers falls into crises regularly and merely looking at them physically, sometimes you can identify them from their frail nature.

With many hospitals using faulty and old equipnents for genotype test, it is not surprising these kinds of result are prevalent these days.

If i am in your shoes, i wont worry my self about the SS result. We know sicklers from birth, they start suffering from the complications of the anomalies of their sickled shape red blood cells from birth. Hence, the parents wahala starts from the child's infancy to adulthood and even premature death.

If you be sickler, even you urself for don't know before age 7.

Ask around for a reputable lab, and go run the genotype test again. In the meantime, you are not an SS. That is a fact.

Jethro2018:
My son is suffering from piles ( hemorrhoid ) for the past 9 months, the piles always come out whenever he stole. I want him to start school next month. He turn 2 years old last month.
Am afraid I don't know what to do regarding his conditions, food that contains fibre was recommended and more intake of vegetables yet the piles still remain.
Doctors in the house, Pls help me ooo
Abeg make una no mind my grammatical errors

Madam, please take your kid to see a doctor . Not come to nairaland, do help. Go to the nearest general hospital near, especially that your child is just 2 years old.

Acts fast madam, because it evidence that your child is not healthy and may have other serious issues which you are not aware of.

So a doctor needs to see the child, examines him and make diagnosis professionally. That face to face contact is what u can't get via ur interactions with any virtual doctor on nairaland

sonmvayina:
Hell was created to wipe people into line... We are Gods on a human journey.. We are part of God and God is part of us.. Now why will God send part of it self to hell?

There is a difference between
Hell
and
Hell fire

The original meaning of hell in the Hebrew, Aramaic or Greek language is grave.

Hell means the common grave of mankind

This word hell is found in the bible and repeatedly used in reference to grave. Even Jesus Christ went to hell. Do you know that?

But hell fire, which Christendom leaders claim is the place of torment reserved for sinners is not found in the Bible.

Now, when you keep repeating yourself and saying that hell fire is real without bringing up proof, does that in itself not show, you Dont have any proof?

So your only option is to keep repeating yourself, and claiming that hell fire exist. That is okay.

You are free to keep saying hell fire exist. The more you do so, without supplying your evidence, the more it shows, that you Dont have any solid basis for what you believe.

Imagine u believing in something, but cant come forward with tangible facts for what you believe.

That is the classical definition of indoctrination and brain washing.

Please lay out the facts:

Who created hell fire?
Where in the universe is it located?
How many people are there now?
Is Adam in hellfire?
Who is the manager of hellfire?
Does he have staff who do shift?
How old is hell fire?

How wide or deep is hellfire?

Please give me the answers to these questions from the Bible.

I will be very happy if you can.

Let's stop decieving ourselves and lying against God, by inputting to him the satanic doctrine of hellfire.

Bibings:
What you don't know is that man has a soul, spirit and lives in a body. When a person dies, the body becomes dust, his soul and spirit either goes to heaven or he'll depending on how he lived his life on earth.
Never try to explain spiritual things with a carnal mind! Never!

Do not be deceived at all: heaven and earth is real! The earlier you make the decision to serve Jesus all the days of your life, the better!

Kindly prove that hell fire is real. Where did God create Adam from?

Before Adam was created where was he?

In heaven?
Hell? or
Simply none existent?

What is your response.

What did God tell Adam when he ate the forbidden fruit?

Did God tell Adam:

You will go back to dust but your spirit will go to hell fire

or

for out of dust you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.

Which one of the above option does Genesis 3:19 states?


In sentencing Adam to death, did God ever mention the word hell fire ?

Are you ascribing to God, what he never said or did? Why are you lying on Gods head so to speak?

Please answer these two questions.

Religions of this world have turned the Bible upside down. And have made their members to believe false hood about God.

Prove it that Adam spirit left him, and went to hell fire. Dont just blab , prove it Biblically that Adam went to hell fire and If you can prove it from the Bible in the next 1million years, then, I will believe.

Supply facts. Dont just talk without facts.
Show me from your Bible, evidence of Adam punishment in hell fire. If you can't, prove it, it means what you believe is pure falsehood. And that you Dont know your left from your right.

If heavens does not exist, where does God reside? Psalms 11:4.

Were are we now? Is it not earth?

Did I say heaven and earth is not real? Learn to speak truth always and not ascribe what someone didn't say to him.
It amounts to lying in case you Dont know.

Tosinex:
"Ye are of your Father the devil and the deeds of your father you will do" not everybody is children of God. And where the devil has been condemn to his children too will be.

As dear children of God we are to be mindful of following God's commands carefully.. Jesus said If you love me you will obey my commandments, this is of utmost priority.

The jugdement reserved for the Devil, is destruction.And his followers will meet the same fate.

sonmvayina:
@restroom,
How did you know the name of this spirit is jehovah? Or did you just read a book and believe it without confirming it yourself?

If it is spirit, does that mean that anybody can make up anything about it, since there is no way to confirm it..

How can you tell if the spirit is a good one or an evil one.. Or this spirit is responsible for both good and evil since there is no demarcation..

How can a spirit have a son?.. I am confused.. Please explain to me like am a 10 year old.

There is a book, called the Bible.

It is a book from God. It is the only book that explains all about life and how we got here.

So, everything I have shared with you, is from this book: called the Bible.

I am sure you have heard about the Bible before.

Have you read through it?

It is not just an ordinary book. It is the word of God.

And it is over 3000 years old. There are 66 little books that make up this book and were written by over 40 different authors inspired by Gods holy spirit.

Some reject the book as man s work. Billions accept it as God's word.
Before I can go in depth and explain things to you, as you requested, the first question I need to find out the answers from you is this: Do you believe in the Bible/as the word of God?

I am a black educated man, so I won't try to decieve myself like many educated people and the so many white people, who says God does not exist or that the Bible is an ordinary book.

To explain the concept of Godship, creation and life, you need to be a spiritual man.
The physical man cannot understand the things of the spirit.

Hence, the question, do you believe in the Bible?

let start from there?

So that we don't argue over information qouted from the word of God.

Primesky:
My dear, hell fire exist!. Please be careful not to decease people here. You don't use human wisdom to interpret the word if God. You think Jesus Christ came down Rosie for fun?.

He came to ensure we don't go there!. Human permutations can't change the reality of hell. Telling yourself that he'll doesn't exist may make you feel comfortable now, but it won't exempt you from falling into it if you don't truly repent.


Hebrews 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Hell exist!. Be warned, don't fall for the deception.

Jesus Christ is the way to life. Salvais now!.

Is Adam in hell fire?

Take a look at God's past judgement of sinners in Noah time, Sodom and Gomorrah and even Jerusalem in 607 BCE.

What can we learn from these accounts?

God destroys evil doers once and for all.

God cannot give everlasting life to sinners by keeping them burning forever in hell fire. No.

The wicked are destroyed permanently.
You think God have time and the heart of Satan to roast sinners in fire forever?

Some times, because we refuse to critically examine some demonic teachings, we make the mistake of believing that God can be heartless like the devil.

Now if God can burn sinners in hell fire, which one then can Satan do?

God says has said the wages of sin is death.
Churches and their members say no, na lie
na hell fire

Okay, if God now say it is hell fire, what do you think Satan would call God?

Will Satan not say God is heartless?

Well God is holy, my dear.
And wether you agree or not, he didn't burn Adam in hell fire.

So, no human has ever been burned in that fake hell fire churches preach everywhere, because it does not exist.

God is love.
The wages sin pays, is death.For the wicked, it is death without hope of a resurrection.

candelahria:
The mark of the beast is not figurative. Satan's followers will be branded with a physical mark.

What makes you say that?
Who will do the branding pls?

I need you to explain please, because What the teaches shows that it is figurative.

sonmvayina:
First and foremost, what is or who is God?

God, if I may answer you is the originator of life...your maker
your creator
who sustains the universe by his power
Read Genesis 1vs 1

According to his son, in John 4:24, God is a spirit and so we can't see him
In psalms 11 vs 4, the Bible tells us that dwells in the heavens, the spirit realm

He is very holy, in fact the holiest personage in the universe

He regulates his creations by means of laws

Humans, are his intelligent creations on earth, endowed with the ability to praise and worship their maker.

So, God is our maker, to whom we owe our life, respect, honour and worship.
Rev 4:11

And his name, is JEHOVAH
Psalms 83:18.

His dominant qualities are :
Love
Wisdom
Justice and
Power

As a spirit person, and as our maker, he has a personal interest in you .
John 17:3.

Mikelord007:
You speak truth my man the same john 1:1 used by Trinitarians says in the beginning was the word and the word was a God. The holy bible have never mentioned Almighty God as having a beginning or having a start, but the son is called by God as his only begotten son, manufactured by the almighty himself, first born of all creation who has a head that is above him just as a man is head over a woman. God bless you man.

Thank you. It is funny how people fall for doctrine.

amaniro:
Okay ooh. Most at times I don't adhere or oblige to most of this doctrines. I serve God the best way possible.

It is okay, to serve God the best way possible.

But we need to be sure, our service to God is acceptable. It is one thing to think our service is okay, but due to so many many false doctrines churches everywhere are teaching their members, we need to be absolutely sure, our belief is based on truth and accurate bible knowledge.

According to Jesus in John 17:3, we must have accurate knowledge of God and Jesus Christ, to gain everlasting life.

There is a reward for serving God the best way he wants. So as far as we serve God, we must ensure we serve him the way he approves.

Remember, Matt 7:13,14?

It speak of the narrow road and the broad road

What separates the people on those figurative roads, is their doctrines

Those on the broad road have false doctrines that leads the worshippers to destruction

While those on the narrow road have the accurate bible doctrines that leads the followers to life Ever lasting

What we choose to believe is very important because it can either be truth about God or wicked lies about God.

If our beliefs are based on lies, no matter how sincere we can be, we can't gain everlasting life from it

But if it based on truth, our future will be secure, as God promises his faithful worshippers everlasting life.

That is the more reason, we all need to make sure that what we believe and have been made to believe about God is based on facts, truth and accurate knowledge as found in the Bible.

Trinity, hellfire and so many doctrines common in the worlds religion of today, do not have sound biblical backing.

So, from time to time we all need to seriously examine our personal religious beliefs, using the Bible, to make sure they are in line with the truth.

LuciferChristi:
Hahaha
Ignorant mortals.

You will all burn with me soon!

From dust you are, and to dust you will return

amaniro:
God the father is number 1
God the son number 2 scripture says"no one comet through the father except through me"
God the holy Spirit is our teacher sent by Jesus Christ.

Listen to yourself or read your statement
does it make sense

Can you see Buhari, without seeing Osinbajo?

Who will you see first, Osinbajo or Buhari?

No one comes to the father except through me dies not mean, they are a trinity.
Jesus was saying that, you need to follow due process to get to God.
His position is so important that , that without getting clearance from Jesus, you can't get access to God. That is why we pray in Jesus name, to end our prayers. we must acknowledge Jesus position in Gods arrangement.

God is God not of disorder but of peace

So that disorderly doctrine of God is Jesus, God is holy spirit and God is God is a doctrine of confusion for confusing gullible people who wants to be confused and misled by the devil.

God is one.
If you say, he is three in one, that okay for you.It shows you really don't know God that well.

amaniro:
God the father is number 1
God the son number 2 scripture says"no one comet through the father except through me"
God the holy Spirit is our teacher sent by Jesus Christ.

Listen to yourself or read your statement
does it make sense

Can you see Buhari, without seeing Osinbajo?

Who will you see first, Osinbajo or Buhari?

No one comes to the father except through me dies not mean, they are a trinity.
Jesus was saying that, you need to follow due process to get to God.
His position is so important that , that without getting clearance from Jesus, you can't get access to God. That is why we pray in Jesus name, to end our prayers. we must acknowledge Jesus position in Gods arrangement.

God is God not of disorder but of peace

So that disorderly doctrine of God is Jesus, God is holy spirit and God is God is a doctrine of confusion for confusing gullible people who wants to be confused and misled by the devil.

shadeze:
I think you're right. The doctrine came many years after the apostles died, I think the originators made an error in believing that Jesus meant it literally when he said I and my father are one(John 10:30) and when he said the Father, the son and the holy spirit are one(1st john 5:7)
But I think he meant that they were of one mind and not necessarily one being

I agree with you bro...they are in agreement, not a trinity as Christendom make it out to be

delkuf:
you have problem. first you said there is no hell, and now you are saying there is no God. I pray that the rest room you will end up after leaving this world, will not be hell. because there you will not be able to rest

Point of correction:
I never said God does not exist o

I said Trinity doctrine is wrong

And I never said hell does not exist

I said hell fire

it is obvious you Dont know

that hell fire and hell do not mean the same thing

You might think you are entertaining people with your gibberish on NL.

Now, take

Jesus stated clearly, that
sins against God will be forgiven
sins against the son will be forgiven
but
sins against God holy spirit will not be forgiven in this life or that which is to come

I fear for you that somehow

You might have crossed that line with the trash headline and content of your article.

Better start asking God for forgiveness for your blasphemy against the holy spirit,because you are forever damned if you don't

Foolish idiot, insulting Gods Holy spirit

hopefulLandlord:
The "truth" you're talking 'bout is based on faith though

Truth is from God, who cannot lie

hopefulLandlord:
The "truth" you're talking 'bout is based on faith though

Truth is of on God, who cannot lie

hopefulLandlord:
My own position is empirically proven whereas yours is based on speculation and faith. anything and everything can be claimed to be true on faith so its a terrible way of making claims

If you know the truth, it shall set you free

Is this doctrine really accurate:

that God the father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are one?

I believe it is false.

Among us humans, we have seniority and hierarchy.

We have our fathers, who are the head

We have our mothers, who are subject to the husbands and children, who are subject to the fathers and mothers.

You see, it is clear....

But when it comes to God, churches have twisted it the other way round, so much so that common sense is no longer common.

So people now Believe God is a trinity, 3 in one.

Churches have turn God into a 3 face idol, and worshipped the way they like.

According to John 3:16, God sent his son to the earth, to save those who exercise faith in Jesus.

The question now is, Was it God who came to die for us?

Did God Send God to come and die for our sin?

Well, the messenger and sender , who is greater?

That account at John 3:16, simply shows that there is seniority in the relationship between God and his son.It also, shows that God is more powerful and has greater authority. Also, it shows that the two entities are distinct. God is God, our creator while Jesus is the firstborn son or creation(Colossians 1:15).

God was not created but Jesus was created.

Yet, people still open their eyes wide open and let religious leaders deceive them that God, the Ancient of Days, The Alpha and the Omega, and his creation, his first born son are equal and are one.

Can a father and his son be mate?

The churches of the world says yes!

The Bible book of John 14:28 States in part:

'the Father is greater than I am'.

Now, this quote was made by Jesus himself.Does this not show, that even Jesus is well aware that he is below his father, and not equal to God.

Yet people keep saying God, and his son and holy spirit are equal.

Take it or leave it:

Jesus said:

The father is greater than I am.

That explains why he was sent by his father as Messiah to the earth.

The doctrine of trinity is another satanic doctrine he uses to mislead billions of people into believing the wrong things about God and also receiving their Worship.

Those who worship the Trinity god,
of god the father, god the son and god the holy spirit, are giving their worship to idols. They are worshipping Satan unknowingly.

1Cor.8:5,6 states:

for even though there are so called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many "gods" and many "lords", there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him,and there is one Lord,Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.'

So, it is clear, there is one God, the Father
and
a distinct Lord, Jesus Christ .

That is what the bible teaches.

God is our creator, the father of all, including Jesus Christ.

so accepting a doctrine that puts the created or creation on the same pedestal as the creator is an insult on God's person, sovereignty, goodness and power.

Obviously, those pedalling this evil doctrine, have forgotten what is called common sense.

God and his son, are not mates.

They are a father and son relationship.

hopefulLandlord:
Same place the guy you shot goes after he's dead. in the ground where he decomposes and turns to fertilizers of fossil fuels

Thanks for your reply to his question.

At death, you return to the dust. The difference between yourself and him is this, your actions are wicked and deliberate, for which God will choose not to resurrect you because you did it intentionally. Unless of course, you genuinely repented before his death.

The fact that people commit crimes does change the fact that at death, they all go back to the dust.

If you like kill as many as you wish and do all the evil you wish, at death you return to the dust without hope of any future resurrection, that God reserves for his righteous servants and many ignorant sinners of old.

When I was growing up, I heard different things about the meaning of the 666, mark of the wild beast.

Some of the explanations where scary and disturbing. Christendom home videos made it appear that a time will come when humans would literally be marked on their forehead and right hand. Even the internet is awash with videos, sermons and teachings about the meaning of 666 .

As I grew up, and came to a better understanding of the Bible, as one of Jehovah's witness, it became clear that the religions of the world, have a wrong explanation of the meaning of 666.

According to Apostle John, who wrote the book of Revelation, in Revelation 1:1, he States that the angel presented the account of Revelation to him in 'signs'.

Hence, what is recorded in this book of Revelation should not be taken literally. The language of the book is symbolic.

For this reason, many of the explanations out there about 666,the mark of the wild beast are inaccurate and a misconception. Trying to explain this mark as a physical mark that will be given to people at some point in time, misses the point.

In Revelation 14:1-3, the bible speaks of a limited number of people , who had the name of the lamb and God, written on their forehead.This is not literal of course.

In essence, these persons were known to God personally and to Jesus Christ and were marked to live in heavens.

From the above account, Those identified for rewards by God, are figuratively marked. The marks are not literal. God does not have to physically mark people, to show he knows them. He knows those who belongs to him.

In the same vein, Satan does not need to literally give anybody the mark of the wild beast, because he knows his followers by their deeds, mental attitude and ways of life. Hence , the so called mark of the wild beast is simply a phenomenon associated with evil doers, people opposed to God and his ways. It explains why evil doers associate with evil doers and continue to behave in ungodly ways.

You can easily see this phenomenon all around you....to become successful, people can do anything, break laws, commit murder, live recklessly and also join cults.


All the evil associations of ungodly people who do ungodly things are individuals who live for the devil.These ones figuratively have the mark of the beast, 666.

You can't do anything with them, unless you join them.

They know themselves and will not allow outsiders in their midst. They control government, big businesses and religions of the world. In order to flow with them, you must join them.

The fact that they want you to join them. means, they expect you to ready to do anything ungodly to succeed, become famous and rich.

Hence, all those opposed to God, who live ungodly lives, and remain so till the day of Armageddon, will be destroyed for being in Satan's camp.

It is either we are marked for survival on that day by God or marked for destruction.

If we are marked for destruction, that means we are strangers to God. That our works were evil and so deserved only to be destroyed.

Whoever God does not mark for survival , cannot escape judgement. That means all ungodly people who aligned with Satan's evil ways of life, and figuratively carried that mark of Satan, will be destroyed.

so the mark of the wild beast is a description for unrepentant, evil doers who keep their ungodly, satanic ways of life ignoring God in all their activities.

Hence, a good way to have that mark, is to live anyhow and do anyhow .At the end of the day, ungodliness leads to annihilation from God almighty.

My question now is, what mark are you carrying figuratively on your forehead or right hand? Are your actions every day, evil or godly?

Your actions presently will decide, the mark on your forehead, whether God knows you personally or
whether

The Devil sees you as his candidate, which will be too bad on the Day of Armageddon!

DeSepiero:
Well, there's hell on earth in Africa.

The original Greek word translated hell means the common 'grave'.

Life in Africa is hard....I agree with you that there is hell( hardship, not hell fire) in Africa).

In the future, The whole world will become a beautiful paradise for man' s enjoyment.God promises to balance things earth wide by means of his Kingdom.
Psalms 37:11.

Complicated story. Morlly, she is in the wrong.

PUSSYBBQGRILLS:
No hell.

You are correct.

For thousands of years now, many have been led to believe in the doctrine of hell fire.

Biblically, this teaching has no basis.
Some invoke the expression recorded in Revelation
21:8 and Rev 19:20, I.e. the 'lake of fire' or 'lake that burns with sulfur'as evidence of hell fire.

Others point to Jesus parable about the rich man and Lazarus, recorded in Luke 16:19-31.

While these Bible verses speak of punishment in fire, they are not to be taken literally.

The language in which the Book of Revelation was written, were all symbolic. Also, the story of the Rich man and Lazarus, was an illustration directed at the proud pharisees, who believed they were favoured before God. Jesus used the illustration to let the pharisees realized that, things have changed for the ordinary Israelites, with the arrival of the messiah. God stopped using the pharisees to teach the Jews the law, with the coming of Jesus Christ .With the presence of Gods son teaching the Jews directly about God, the spiritual condition of the Jews became elevated while the Pharisees were debased. Seeing the changed condition of the jews, and the judgment message of Jesus against the Pharisees, they became enraged at Jesus.

Interestingly, Jesus Christ ended the role of the Pharisees as teachers of the law, when he established Christianity.Since the birth of the Christian congregation, the ordinary Jews and later the Gentiles, became opportuned to worship God freely.

Yet, as simple as the illustration of the rich man and pharisees were, the religions of today have latched on to it, as proof that hell fire existed. The Pharisees that Jesus directed the message to knew that Jesus was talking to them. They knew the meaning that, spiritually speaking, their position as teachers of the law had changed forever with Jesus presence. And that the common man they looked down upon is now favoured with the previlegde of been taught the way of Christ, which opens to them the direct opportunity of communicating with God.

Hence, to those who misconstrue, the parable of the rich man and Lazarus as proof of hell fire, it is good to read that account again, to get the import of the parable.

According to first John 4:8, God is Love.

Can a God of love burn his sinning creatures in fire?

What do you think?

To answer it clearly, think about yourself for a moment. Can you burn your child in fire for sinning or doing something you forbid?

Can you ?
Well, I can't.

As a human, how many of us even think about using fire as a possible means to punish criminals?

Few, if any.
How many human government burn criminals alive?

None!
If humans in General Dont do it, why do people now want God to do it?
If human government Dont burn criminals in fire, is it God that we now burn his own creature in everlasting fire?

God is love.
If humans, Dont do it, God can't do it.
We are made in God s image, remember.
If you can't do it, because it looks unjust, then, God cannot do it.

Also, there is no record in the Genesis account of creation, of how God created Hellfire and where it is located.Where is hellfire located ?Who created it? Where is evidence that God created it? The bible recorded how God created everything, including the sun, moon and stars.How come it is silent about hellfire?

Now God told Adam, that if he sins against him, he would go back to the dust.Because he created him from the dust. Now if Adam returned to the dust as God told him, how come his children go the hell fire as popularly claimed by churches of today?

God specifically told Adam in Genesis 3:19- For dust you are, and to dust, you will return.

But churches now say, for dust you are and to hellfire you will return.

Can God lie?

Who knows better, God or churches?

Where do we go at death?

Is Adam in hell fire?
Which hell fire?

According to God is statement to Adam, at death, he returned to dust, to a state of none existence.

Adam was none existent before God created him.

At death, he returned to that state signified by dust.

But churches say no. We do not die. We continue to live but in hell fire.
So a lot of people end up believing the big lie that hell fire exist .

God cannot lie.Satan is the only one that can burn sinners in hellfire, an imaginary place he has created to paint God as a wicked person who can debase his human creation by burning the sinners amongst them in hell fire.

Now, did God burn Adam in hell fire after he sinned, and became the first sinner on earth?

What's your answer?

If Adam didn't go to hell fire, as the first sinner, does it make sense to believe that his children and all sinners are in hell fire?

A student midwife, came to my office one day in July 2017.She was pregnant and wore a ring. She gave me the impression she was married. When she came, she was broke and wanted to do a seminar work. I did it for her, n didn't press for money when she said she would give me some other day. What I didn't know, was that she was under intense pressure psychologically and hungry. She kept sizing me and trying to read me. Well, she went for her seminar and some days, she came back with my money. Some how, she found my company relaxing. So she kept coming around. Around DEC last year she delivered a baby girl.

Around March this year, she finally opened up to me about her pregnancy and baby. You know why I am relating this story? She was impregnated by a staff of UBTH school of midwifery. The guy was mad with the girl for allowing herself to become pregnant.

He wanted abortion, but girl said no way. So, he cut her off. To reduce attention on herself, she started wearing ring in her hand, so when her lecturers saw her , they thought she was married. She told her parents what happened, and they came to gbege the guy. He told the girl s parent he can't marry a girl like her and insulted her badly. Threatened her, not to bring the child to him, that he won't accept. He said she was free to do anything, but he will never accept the child because he has a girl he wants to marry.

She also told me that, when, she finally delivered, it was the guy's NHIS she used to pay for her delivery in UBTH. As difficult, as the period was for her, she said it was her Christian friends encouragement and support that pulled her through that trial.She also thanked me for encouraging her.

She is in Warri now....finally graduated from school of midwifery. last time I saw the baby in early June, she was big n beautiful. Good enough, her parents have been of support to her in caring for the baby.It appears the girl's mother is happy with baby been around.

Now, this girl made the right decision to keep the baby and she is happier for it today. What's my point, tell your girl to keep the baby...it is not the end of the world.

My friend attended classes with pregnancies, gave birth and completed her program.

Her conscience is clean and clear, because she didn't commit abortion.

Many people think that commit formication is smart
When unwanted pregnancies results, they reason that abortion, done in secret, to conceal the acts of fornication is smarter

so the system keep breeding a world full of fornicators and child murderers...breakers of God's command.

Fornication is already enough

Just Dont add murder to it !

Tell your girl to show respect for Jehovah God, you, her reproductive ability and the unborn baby in her womb, which is a gift from God.

And you, stay from fornication till you are ready to marry!

Say a little prayer, and break the hardast way possible

Dont look for the simple way to break the news

I think what you should be thinking is plan, how to help decide to keep the baby....and be there for her

But if you are not in the same state, I think it might make her easily decide to abort the child, damning u and whatever might come from u.

Just relax....and just continue to appeal to her in the name of God not to commit murder....

If she finally agrees, then you can inform your parents respectfully, of what happen and your decision to keep the Child...

I think what your goal should be in all of this, is seeking God's approval not ur parents approval.

To impregnate a girl is not a big deal these days, the big deal is the decision u make. Make the right decision,that you will be happy with.

If your girl decides to keep it, then, just travel back home, call your pops n mom for emergency meeting. Kneel down n tell them what you have done. And that you intend to keep your child. Accept your fault like a man, and take any critism hurled at you.

Then go ahead and plan.

Let me tell u what happened last year.
I work in UBTH SSA Secretariat.

I must appreciate you bro, for being straight and not considering abortion.

Honestly, it is the best and right thing u done so far and should maintain as u go ahead.

In 2000, my elder did abortion.

My mom supported it but they kept my father in the dark.

Fast forward to July 2018, then I was 18 years old. I'm married now. But my elder bro, is not married.

Now, if he kept the baby, the boy would have been 18 years now.

So, Dont make any one rap you into accepting abortion.

Abortion is murder.

Exodus 20: 13 says
You must not murder

If your lady wants to make you a murderer, by committing abortion, well

you have 2 choices

agree
or
disagree

If you agree to abortion, O boy....your life will never remain the same again. The guilt of killing your own child will be with u till you die.

If you are comfortable with that, sign up to it, knowing, you have stolen Gods property, which you as a human being can't give back.

Now, if choose not to go down that road with her, it is perfectly fine. Dont listen to so many evil advise.

Do what is right.

Tell her abortion is murder
Tell her that it is your child
If she loves you, she will keep it
And that if she makes the decision to abort it, it is her decision not yours
that she will have to live with the guilt

for the rest of her life
mind u, if she aborts once for u, she will abort again and again

As for me,

I cannot keep a relationship with a girl that goes ahead and abort my child

no way!
No matter what excuse anybody gives, that heart is wicked!

As for me, I will tell her,
if you abort , just know that we are through!

She knows what she is looking for:adultery. That is where it will lead.So, it is absolutely wrong.