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dulux07:
Mention the school. no school under NUC will accept such. There r lot of differences, in priv wat u deserve is wat u get, 4yrs is 4yrs, good practical education, disciplined graduates etc

Lol, Whats d diff btw an economic class and business class in airline, are they not bound 4 dsame destination just because d former cant afford it does not mean the latter is wasting is money.

For u to say the private uni graduate dont produce anything meaningful is funny, like seriously, d oldest private uni is babcock. I dont think its up to 25yrs, others r not more than 12yrs. I cant start mentioning names.

This country wont be this bad if thousands that graduated from public uni over the years made positive impacts. No wonder they have corrupt alumnis. Because the system itself is corrupt.

And who told you 4yrs 8yrs in all public universities? bro, There's nothing, I repeat, no Facility or any academic policy any Nigerian private Uni would have Unilorin doesn't have. That's with my 23k annually ooo...lol... Just name the thing bro. You don't need to generalise. I've been emphasizing on Unilorin because that's the school for which I have sufficient empirical data. I'm sure mot Public universities too have the same.

Draxler:
There is post utme in CU. Its called cuSAT. In the year I got admitted out of 10000 people that wrote the exam only about 1000 were admitted. So just because you have 700k doesn't mean your admission is sure. Nobody with 150 jamb score will enter CU, or someone with a pass in maths or any subject related to the course you want to study. So get your facts right.

In the real sense, it's quite obvious that you've either consciously or otherwise taken a shift away from the argument... When I quoted you firstly on this thread, I provided a link to another thread. Doing so, I wanted you to pick some point before argument. As much as I know,October 21st this year, CU (I decided too take CU since it's your alma mater and the oldest, perhaps) would be celebrating her annual founder's day... She'll be 16years by then. Well, after taking a stroll into the Labour Market, I discovered a few things (I decided not to use the political example, since you might wish to use age to dodge such points) viz:
1. That, the tech world and the under 30 CEOs are dominated by Graduates of public universities.. Take a look at the founder of Nairaland, Linda Ikeji, The Jobberman Trio, cofounder of e-commerce site, Konga and dealdey, to mention but a few; they all graduated from public Universities or schools overseas (Except Sim Sagaya of Kings).
2. We've always seen news and dailies always showing us Students from Nigeria who break grounds. We're still waiting for Nigerian private university students to make us proud.
3. The Iroko programming competition was won last year by a public Uni student and has been so for a while now. With all the facilities, don't they teach quality programming at CU? Or why should students from those dilapidated schools always clinch the prize??
4. In 2013/2014, the University of Ilorin in a National Maths conference held at Abuja clinched the winning prize ... Well, maybe they don't offer maths at CU. Just recently, the pat utomi prize for debate was clinched by two UI students and a UNN student. Where are the orators of BU and CU? Its open to all students mind you. Also, The ANUC interuniversity Competition was championed by Unilorin, a public Uni. No private school came first second or even third. Why? To essayists, we all know of the popular CIPMN essay competition open to all Nigerian students.. Unilorin, Unilag and UNN students have excellently turned this to a household award, why? Don't CU students write?
I can go on and on, if you so please. Now, consider this:


The fact that education is expensive is a very beautiful quote if and only if the products of such an educational system are well represented. Look at the products of MIT.. Who dares says expensive education isn't good? Those in Harvard. Look at Gates, Mack Zuckerberg, Larry page and sergey brin (cofounders of Google Inc.), Evan Spiegel (cofounder of Snap chat); the Winklevoss brothers, Sean parker, Eduardo Saverin, etc.,; with their world class products, who dares say expensive education is bad? Nobody! Their tuition fees have been transformed into meaningful stuffs. But, here, the reverse is the case. The "poorly funded" schools are the ones doing exploits... What is Education without valuable impacts on the society? Is it all about paying 700k+?
It is not education if it's not "productive to the society and product oriented.
Please bro, before you refute my claims, Use Google. Thanks.

prettyboi1989:
hahahaha, u jst cant refute anything i said, the best u cud come up with in ur head is insult. i wonder wat oda insults u av up dere in ur skull. av seen that many a time on nairaland, once dey got no fact to lay or no point to make, they switch to childish tools of insults. if u think u are matured and not the type that uses insults to communicate y dnt u respond maturely to my earlier stated post. bt i knw, u will come up with anoda insult cos thats d best u can offer.

Insult, according to a 27 year old nairalander is succinctly put as:

"The state of mind by which by direct or indirect means, a party eschews to educate another because of his/her low level of intelligence and inability to construct a simple sentence".

I'm not surprised, that's what you get when you get a 163 Utme score then get absorbed by a private university. You'll become a problem of national concern. How worse can it get?

An0nimus:
Reverseengineer, argument is not by plenty grammar o. Draxler used your analogy to drive home a point and you went off a tangent in your reply lol.

Draxler keep educating these guys if you still have the time. The task is an uphill one though.

@Topic.

I don tire to talk for this kind topic. like someone said, we've been hardwired to think we must suffer like slave men on cotton farms before we can gain academic excellence. So much assumption and false sense of pride from many posters here.

Hello. I think it's rather draxler that's trying to dodge my argument and recycle all he has said. I'll quote him now.. Meanwhile, keep up with the bias. .

dulux07:
N how many years did u spend in d private uni, how many summers did u come 4.

What u people dont understand is, private uni benefit more from student failing, its a private uni, its a profit making institution, the more students fail, the more they come for summer and spend extra yrs, the more money they generate for the sch. They are not ready to compromise for any student.

U people argue blindly, argue wit facts n not rumours. No private uni will admit without meeting jamb cutoff n complete recommended o lvls for the course u want to pursue. All uni Including private are all been regulated by one body. NUC.
If they mistakenly do admit u wit ur poor result, it will boomerang.

That's a lie bro. There are lots of private Unis that don't even require post UTME exams. Just come with your money after you fail Jamb! I mean, a handful of them. I wouldn't want to spoil someone's business by calling out schools.. I still maintain that, If all you're provided with is nothing different from what other Nigerians universities provide, and the products of the said school are yet to produce meaningful stuffs, then the 800k+ is a monumental waste. I'll give an analogy in my next post..

dulux07:
What do u call, corrupt activities, facilities and academic decay going on for years now in the pub university. As old as some of them are, they can not even feature in top best in africa. I guess its a major SET-FORWARD right, CONTINUE DECEIVING URSEF. no wonder some of u use 7yrs for a 4yr course

There is nothing special about pub uni as well, just avoidable and meaningless harsh conditions. If a private uni student desperately wants to attend a pub uni, his 1year fee in a priv uni will buy his way in. Thats how decayed the public system is.

Yea.. Sure. And all I need to get admitted into a private University is Just an O'level result with a permissible "pass" in Maths alongside my 700k+ naira with my 150+ in Jamb. Post Utme? common!!! you've paid for that, just come commence lectures...

uchennaq:
I AM A PRODUCT OF (APPLIED)CHEMISTRY DEPT UNIVERSITY OF CALABAR 2007. I CAME OUT WITH 2ND CLASS LOWER DIVISION. I CHALLENGE ALL 1ST CLASS APPLIED CHEMISTRY STUDENTS THAT EMANATED FROM THESE SO CALLED PRIVATE UNIVERSITY TO A COMPETITION. NO HOLDS BAR

Omoh see Schrödinger ooooo!!!!

Draxler:
So using your logic, these things are a celebration of mediocrity. But they are lacking in unilag that's why they are rioting. So this unilag which is a public school is mediocre because they lack these little things you claim to be mediocre. Agreed?

If you observed, I've laid very strong emphasis on the NIGERIAN CONTEXT. We need to first understand that in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is the king. All we have in Nigeria is a backward form of eduction. Be that as it may, against this backdrop, there are still some "kings" ruling the blind (private schools perhaps). Mind you, Unilag students protested and didn't riot. Protest is a welcome way to show dissatisfaction even in the civilized world. Little wonder former Iceland prime Minister, Sigurður Ingi Jóhannsson was forces to resign after a massive national protest spurred by the leak of the Panama papers ...Remember the power situation as we speak is an eyesore nationally. Fuel is also another menace. Unilag is being run by the government and is geographically located at Nigeria, so, somehow, the precarious situation can be justified. At least it didn't happen a month ago. These are issues beyond the school management's control. Even foreign investors are fleeing Nigeria. Its a national issue and could be understood. Mind you, white students also protest.

prettyboi1989:
ohh is that ow u were brought up to be insultive and disrespecful, i believe u can c a big difference between u n i. ooops i can feel the hate vibe coming from u. guess u pained cos there are many coming up with reasonable arguments to support private sculs. wat properties of private unis did u give, u said they dnt rep internationally? m sure everything u know abt anything u get from the papers and internet. y dnt u come to the private school u want to knw more about n do ut digging physically to get concrete evidence rather dan making myopic statements here. besides ur bone of contention here is d facilities, u dint mention visitn any private school n assessing the facilites they av n comparing it with what u av in any public scul of ur choice. bt alas, u are jst a forum member whu has neither the means nor the ability to gather such facts.

I wanted to grant the opportunity of engaging in a tête-a-tete with you, alas, I discovered it would be inherently unproductive to school someone who can't put down simple sentences.
Hate? A student of Caltech, MIT or Stanford? You're a mediocre and I don't associate with mediocrity. Now, please swerve!

prettyboi1989:
dude dont come here with bragging rights. if u want to make an informed comparism and not a comparism u cooked up in ur room without facts, u need to visit the private schools u avin beef/issues with, take photographs, and then take photographs of d facilities in the public institution of ur choice. its at that point u can make an educated guess. its not by running ur mouth based on assumptions which arent backed by facts.

And by the way, ur write up doesnt justify the topic, i cant c any analysis here other than hate comments. is that how u guys were taught to analyse things? u didnt identify properties of A and properties of B, u didnt highlight any similarities or differences and u put up a thread claming an analysis? Spits!!!

I didn't give properties of A and B using comparisons? If you find no analysis, then it's either you're dyslexic, disgustingly biased or need an Ultra high power lens.

dulux07:
Lol. Exposure and experience matters alot. U lack that in ur comparisons. This public uni are living on past glories.
Age, most times is what determines how prestigious a university is, but its a pity public uni r not even old enough but r on their sickbed. Except they get treatedSome were rejected based on population and too much politics in public schools not academic merits. And those sent away from private sch join the public.
Do ur research well, most rich parents dont even attempt try public schs, they either send them to a private or abroad by d govt.

Well, somewhere in the world, someone just exhibited his self acclaimed exposure and experience by illogically invalidating an analogy.

Draxler:
So looking at what OP has said what other quality do you feel you need? Have u at least visited the school's website to make your own conclusions?

I'll like to know your ideology and definition of quality. All the OP highlighted aren't alien at Unilorin which happens to be a Public school. Relatively speaking, those stuffs aren't quality but a celebration of mediocrity. We all know what we mean by quality here. WiFi network across the Campus isn't rocket science, it's at Unilorin. Round the clock power supply is a necessity and not quality as asserted by the Op. It's well obtainable at Unilorin. In the Nigerian context, I don't think there's anything Unilorin's Laboratories lack. Now, why is he howling quality even if we all know these mentioned stuffs are the necessities for a school to kick start? Again, private University students are short changed and lurk in the dark when academic standard is mentioned in Nigeria ..