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aeboiy:
would you rather the school goes through with your hands cut off or worst still dead
Abeg make you forget all this beef.
I graduated from LASU after 7years and I'm yet to get my certificate which will take like another year or 2.

Well, I at Unilorin, You get your certificate few days after convocation. I strongly think LASU is a "bad egg" and an exception. Most state schools too.

queenestelle:
Hhhhmmmm. Writeup makes sense and sums it all up.

Hi, I'm temmi. guess you're new here...

Draxler:
The private schools abroad are extremely old. Harvard university was founded in 1636. How old are our private universities?

Is your point enough reason to give my child a low quality education even if I'm "well to do" and pay so huge? It's business, if they can't give me quality, I mean quality, then, it's wasteful.

dulux07:
Some were rejected based on population and too much politics in public schools not academic merits. And those sent away from private sch join the public.
Do ur research well, most well to do parents dont even attempt public schs, they either send them to a private or abroad.

Lies from the bottom of a blast furnace. Such an ill informed statement. "Well to do parents", I mean "Well to do parents" who are very keen about a good standard of Education for their wards send their kids abroad. Private universities aren't an Option. The argument isn't even about Whether or not Public Universities are better, that's crystal clear. It shouldn't call for a debate. Private schools are far behind in terms of academic standard. The bone of contention is simply, "The amount private universities pay is unparalleled to what they're given back". At least, we know the result of privately owned schools abroad. We see how they're high flying. That's when you are free to say, "They're getting what they paid for". Until then, keep paying high and enjoying the rotten educational system of Nigeria. That's a bit weird to me.

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hartstein:
I feel your pain the beef game is strong **heheheheheheheh so myopic in reasoning most times I begin to wonder if Nigerians every love the idea of an easy life u must suffer first before u get good education *ogar o well done

You sound like who never went to either a public or private school. Very poorly constructed sentence. God Help you.

Draxler:
Who is comparing sir. I'm just using the same criteria you public uni people are using. Since suffering more makes you a better graduate, why can't the schools abroad copy some of your characteristics? Let them lack basic facilities and have ill equipped labs with frequent Strikes and wicked lecturers and let's see whether they will still be rated as highly as they are. I don't need to read your thread. I spent 5 years in CU so I know how great our facilities are. You should go there and inspect the facilities before making judgements. That's actually the best thing.

Boss, try going through the thread I posted and come back to tell me the truth.

Draxler:
God forbid that CU would come to any of your schools to borrow anything. OP leave these people. They will hate us forever. Nothing you tell them will convince them. Let them keep suffering strikes and lack of basic facilities and be making noise that it's the hardship that makes them total graduates. I'm very sure graduates of Harvard and Yale suffer hardship in their schools that's why they are the best.

Please, NEVER you compare your type of private university to Yale, Harvard, University of Pennsylvania or even 'C' grade Private schools overseas. Such comparison is like that of the living to the dead . Before any further debate, do check out this thread and school yourself a bit.

https://www.nairaland.com/3040194/private-universities-facilities-analysis

Dear Amerimex, with your writeup, I'm sad to say you're the one getting it wrong. The precarious situations of a people won't be averted unless they individually change themselves. Just look at your sentence structure? A self acclaimed University student or Graduate? Pathetic!

Dear Op, I understand your grievances especially after reading and digesting the thread:
https://www.nairaland.com/3040194/private-universities-facilities-analysis
But consider this excerpt from the thread:

The fallacy that private universities are well
equipped has to stop. It's sheer mediocrity. I can
tell you they are even less equipped than public
Schools. Would you compare the Medical
program of Unilorin to that of CU (If any)? Or
UCH to Babcock's? Severally, we've even seen
these schools come to the so called Ill equipped
schools to lend some apparatus when some of
their programs are to be accredited. These
"Outdated" schools produce students who shine
internationally at quizzes while the "up-to-date"
ones are beaten flawlessly by the former.
Concerning how equipped they are, tell that to
Iranians who have no idea how things are done
here.

Thank you.

x240:
When we tell them that Unilorin is far better than all these yeye school the students from such school would not allow us hear word.

That's one of those things i respect Unilorin for. Very very clean Public toilets and very descent hostels.

I can assure go to walk way and any toilet in any of the hostels in Unilorin and you would be marveled at how neat they are. Universities that can't think out of the box and outsource the cleaning of the environment and toilets on their campuses aren't fit to be regarded as schools in the 21st century. How much would it cost to charge each atudent 500 naira per session and outsource this?

An innovative suggestion if I must say. But would they listen? No, they're professors and can't listen to the "mutterings of a confused person" as they'll say.

anochuko01:
Go read up the history of engineering lady. it began with civil and mechanical.
And While mechanical and civil deal with machinaries and structures, other ''engineering'' courses deal more with smaller components and lab work. That's my point!

What's this one saying? Industrial Reactors and Large scale plants are "Smaller components"? And why did you throw that Engineering in quotation marks? You sure have no Idea of this advancing field of Engineering .. What's he even saying that Some Engineering deals with Labwork? What Engineering field doesn't carry out Simulation of models before prototype testing? Or you think the mechanical plant you see isn't a product of scaled up lab work? Or that Cantilever along the road wasn't simulated in the lab for mechanical strength via Fluid mechanics analysis? Look, Chemical Engineering even has to do with more massive apparatus and Process Units (on an industrial scale and not at lab). That Civil was the next after military Engineering means nothing. Chemical Engineering is independent And wasn't derived from another. Please pick up books and read before disgracing Engineers publicly.

anochuko01:
Met&mat? Thats not pure engineering...more like science
Civil, mechanical, electrical... Those are traditional engineering courses.
Even computer engineering is a step brother to them

Stop sounding Like a student of performing Arts. Chemical Engineering is derived from none and is Totally independent. Meanwhile, how many Engineering courses do you think you're familiar with...

DrayZee:
I read everything. You just believe that people in private schools either do not have any special infrastructure which should make them do better than those in public, or they are not making good use of their facilities in creation of better technology. You basically came here to run down the private institutions. You did not make an in-depth analysis from pre-sourced information gathered from actual public and private institutions.
The truth is that privates have access to modeen technology. Usually in public institutions (most of which are >30 years), the facilties available are the ones which were placed as at the time of it's creation. Thus, outdated facilites are found in public institutions. When the need for modern tech arises, publics may not be able to properly key into and make use of such tech.
Public institutions usually have students far greater than the preposed capacity. Thus, majority of the students will not be able to recieve lectures properly.
Cultism, theft, poor hostel facilties, inadequate number of hostels, and other conditions are factors faced by publics which privates do not face.
So why should anyone stand up and question the academic ability of a person just because he/she did not study in a public (outdated) university?
Please, leave students to study where they please. It's what they bring to society that counts. If they can cipe in public, fine. If they do well in private, fine. It's what they do with their knowlege that matters. Don't downgrade other institutions because of hatred for which no reason exists.

Firstly, I like to rule out the point of hatred from the discussion. I'm doing fine for myself and it's rather pitiable that an attempt to expose the truth is always classified as hatred.

Furthermore, the whole point of your writeup depicts you hardly understood the message being conveyed because at one point you stated the obvious and towards the end you converged at the main focus of my writeup. I know you hurriedly read the post. Take your time this time to read it. Comprehension is not as difficult as we think.


You highlighted the need to study in well funded schools and eventually returned to my point which is centered around the products of both school types. The question is: HOW WELL ARE STUDENTS OF PRIVATELY OWNED VARSITIES REPRESENTING THEIR SCHOOLS BOTH LOCALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY? My writeup succinctly answered this poser.

The fallacy that private universities are well equipped has to stop. It's sheer mediocrity. I can tell you they are even less equipped than public Schools. Would you compare the Medical program of Unilorin to that of CU (If any)? Or UCH to Babcock's? Severally, we've even seen these schools come to the so called Ill equipped schools to lend some apparatus when some of their programs are to be accredited. These "Outdated" schools produce students who shine internationally at quizzes while the "up-to-date" ones are beaten flawlessly by the former. Concerning how equipped they are, tell that to Iranians who have no idea how things are done here.

Finally, I needn't quote sources for my writeup ... I made use of analogical deductions. It is then left to you to debunk my analogies with valid points. Thanks.

maduxs:
Most engineers are theoretical engineers

One of those that applied for Engineering but was given physics ...

Electronzeez:
Better by far neat pass OAU, unilag and uniben combine .they have got good management prolly because they are not pledge to ASUU.

This isn't a matter of allegiance to ASUU, it's a matter of the University's policy makers. Unilorin has a quite organized structure.

DrayZee:
Where is the "analysis" ?

In between the lines.. I bet you couldn't find it because you jumped pass.

I'm still waiting for an MTN advert that would read: "To get a 5.0CGPA like ayodele, send CGPA to 131".

Op, I know this is a conscious attempt to debunk this thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/3040194/private-universities-facilities-analysis#44581872

But, as opposed to the caption of your thread, your analysis is quite illogical. Where are your analogical deductions? or you just come up with a thread and expect nairalanders to accept it hook line and sinker? No, I trust they're more intelligent.

Lalasticlala, ishilove, mynd44, don't you guys also think the same? I know Lala attended Covenant.

Tobishills12, come and see ooo... It's BYT..

Sincerely, this school is a disgrace to Federal Universities. This is supposed to be a toilet not a dungeon. Like OAU, they hypocritically display external architectural structures with little or no concern for students' welfare. I bet Unilorin is Just like MIT or Stanford University beside these schools. *Spits and walks out of thread*

charix:
Please, let this matter die a natural death. You nairalanders enjoy over-beating issues.

By the way, post the YouTube videos you mentioned. I'm interested to see what foreign trained students think up.

Google is always the answer.

gossipatrol:
And am yet to see a law school first class graduate from a private university.

If you have seen any, quote me with the link

Quite true ..

Cc: Lalasticlala Fynestboi Mynd44
Please, help move to front page for a wider audience.

Recently, the society has been fed with a misconception that not only attempts to celebrate mediocrity but doubles as a plot to propagate hypocrisy. The widespread notion that private universities are well equipped whereas government owned ones are an eyesore is a wicked concoction for which there exists no iota of truth. It's just the assumptions of some internet privileged critics.
"Heey! I pay for what I get! Education is expensive, if otherwise, can you justify the whooping tuition fees of ivy league universities" or "I school in a facility-endowed environment with several state of the art materials, so, understanding how I perform so well shouldn't be rocket science" constitute the defensive lines of students of private universities or her advocates. However, I've always questioned myself what these group of people refer to as "Facilities". Facilities that haven't been so useful to churn out graduates who would proffer intelligent solutions to our economic problems? Or ones that haven't been used to devise technological gadgets and spacecrafts? What is the use of a "well-equipped" Institution with poor local and international representation? Even if I've not been so lucky to fly a plane to the United States, YouTube has been quite handy to watch several videos of students of foreign well equipped schools displaying the products of the facilities provided. With these facilities, I've never come across a group project of these self-acclaimed "well-equipped" Nigerian private universities that competes with international ones. Then, I want the definition of education if it defies the product oriented mantra.

Another sickening comparison is that of the students of both school type. It's no news the best of students in high schools oftentimes proceed to government owned universities. Denying this is purely a biased act. We do know the private University option has for long being a return choice for the utme-unfortunate. (Although, not in all cases). As harsh as this sounds, it at least for now remains the truth. Why then do we make a biased comparison of their products?Private Universities have been grossly under represented in various interuniversity quiz Contests. Their counterparts from the underfunded universities often beat them flawlessly. Essay competition prizes are often clinched by government university students ... Have we forgotten the Zain Africa challenge? Government owned universities alumni have set a record of championing the course of representing the nation individually in the diaspora vis-à-vis postgraduate studies. The question then is: "where are the products of this well equipped institutions"?
In the land of the blind, the one eyed man remains the king. Quite unfortunate, but, we have to agree those at the front burner in the international scene and the frontiers of education aren't products of private universities but those of some Poorly funded lot.

Finally, the educational facilities in public schools aren't as bad as depicted by some people,(At least, in the Nigerian context) and lots of these public universities are more equipped than the private ones. If we are to go by the definition of facilities; those provided by world-class standard universities, then, Private universities aren't anywhere close to being equipped.
Source: Composed by ReverseEngineer.

Off all countries, I was born in Nigeria. Pitiable, I must say!