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Politics › Re: What Have You Done For Nigeria Or Your Country In Your Entire Life? by RevMallam(op): 12:02am On Mar 29, 2009

Becomrrich:
This is Obama house. No nigeria governor live less than this, no nigeria senator live less than this.

https://sedulia.blogs.com/photos/everywhere_else/barack_obamas_house.jpg

Go to http://www.zillow.com/ and enter the zipcode where that house is located. After looking at the price range, (before Obama took office) you will quickly realize that you are comparing apples and oranges.
revmallam

Politics › Re: What Have You Done For Nigeria Or Your Country In Your Entire Life? by RevMallam(op): 11:55pm On Mar 28, 2009

Becomrrich:
what they need to do is VAT which the federal is collecting should be collected by state.
educational tax by state and not the federal govt.
personal tax should be state agency.
company tax should be collect by state agency.
petrol tax should be collected by state agency.
corporate tax should be collected by state agency.
custom duties should be collected by state agency.
capital gains tax should be collected by state agency.
Taxes on gaming should be collected by state agency.
Transport taxes should be collected by state agency.
Tax on commercial premises should be collected by state agency.

The issue is not more tax, but the federal govt is collecting money that state should be collecting.
that what need to be solve and not ask nigerian for more money. for what?

My dear friend, your assertions are mostly incorrect. Before leaving Nigeria, I worked as a Tax collector in the ministry of internal revenue and speaking from experience and I still have friends in that ministry, I can tell you that less than 20% of Nigerians pay taxes. Infact, only those with jobs pay any form of taxes. The other segment of Nigerian population that pays any form of taxes are businesses engaged in import export. The other form of taxes paid by businesses in Nigeria are fees levied by various local governments and that's it.
Now to the other points you raised, they are also factually inaccurate.
Here in he US, practicly al the taxes you mentioned are collected BY THE STATES for the FEDERAL government. Infact, US constitution prohibits states from enacting some of the taxes you mentioned because they fall into federal domain. Example, when you feel your gas tank in the US, two taxes are automatically added to it. One for the federal and another for the States used to maintain local roads. If you have lived in the US, you will noticed that at the end of the year, you file two tax documents, one for the state and another for the federal.
Finally, it equally inaccurate to say that most Nigerian governors are richer than Obama. True to some degree but not generally. Fact, 98% of all US senators are millionaires and promptly amass more wealth by becoming lobbyist for the same laws they helped enact in the first place.
Back to Obama, he had a Net worth of over 3 million before taking office (he made most of his money from book writing). Contrary to most assumptions, he was NOT a poor man. Politics the world over has not been a game for the poor and Nigeria is no exception.
But the point is that, if you help change a poor person, they will see the imbalance and as you know, it's more difficult to bribe an informed mind.
revmallam

Politics › Re: What Have You Done For Nigeria Or Your Country In Your Entire Life? by RevMallam(op): 10:04pm On Mar 28, 2009

Becomrrich:
many thing they do, it does not have to be money my friend. Good road, hospital, school and others.

there is no street in toronto that does not have tarred road. how many street have that.
leaders dont buy private jet from other people income, my brother, but your leaders either political or otherwise . they have not learn what service is, They believe the people must serve them.

every home have water, hot and cool, do your have that in nigeria, if you do, look if i write list we no go finish. This is what i would bring if i governor a state in nigeria. i would bring what i have seen and how it is done. I can tell you, but you would not be able to do it without living it.

Are you sure?? Because I am certain it CERTAINLY has to do with money and those good roads, schools, hospitals etc are paid for by the citizens.
||Every home has water , || NOT TRUE. BUT TRUE if you the OCCUPANTS PAY for it.
|| FREE HOSPITAL , || NOT TRUE, every citizen pays for it.
|| FREE GOOD ROADS , || NOT TRUE. In America, all public roads are maintained by Gasoline tax. Infact, 60% of Gas (petrol) in US is used to build and maintain roads. Same for most of Europe.
||FREE SCHOOLS, || NOT TRUE. Schools in America are funded by Taxes levied on ALL homes in the district.
||FREE STREET LIGHTS etc, , || NOT TRUE, funded by municipal taxes added on food and groceries. Where I live, everything you buy is taxed @ 7 ++ no matter how small.
||THEY DON'T BUY JETS WITH PUBLIC FUNDS, || NOT TRUE, All the contracts to rebuild IRAQ was seceretly awarded to well connected insiders at a total cost of more than $50 billion. The global FRAUD aka "global meltdown" resulted from the extension of massive looting of private funds by few individuals.
Obviously, you have chosen not to answer the question.
revmallam

Politics › Re: What Have You Done For Nigeria Or Your Country In Your Entire Life? by RevMallam(op): 9:44pm On Mar 28, 2009

Omonla:
@Revmallam,

Awesome question. Let me give you an illustration of why Nigerians who truly want Nigeria to succeed, are not bothering to do so at this time:

1) Anyone who attempts to make a positive contribution (financial, time or otherwise) will most certainly fall victim to the majority of Nigerians who will take advantage of that goodwill to line their pockets with someone else's hard earned money. You may contend that those who take advantage of someone's goodness were forced to do so because they have been treated unfairly by someone else in the past - You would be right.
Therefore, it is a catch-22. Vicious cycle. You con me, I con you, and the good guy who comes along and tries to end the cycle will not succeed until the majority of Nigerians decide to pay forward some good, no matter whether evil was done to them previously.

So tell me, Revmallam, if Nigerians should be doing something for Nigeria, don't you think it is a losing battle when these issues still exist?

NO, IT IS NOT a LOSING BATTLE !!. Your points are well thought out and intellectually stimulating, but I do disagree that it is a losing battle.
Nigeria is NOT alone in the vicious cycle you describe. It turns out that I work with a lot of people from foreign countries mostly Indians and Chinese. We talk everyday and believe me, they same exact problems you described.
Believe it or there are many Nigerians who have found ways around it and continued to pursue whatever contributions they want to make to their communities. You have them both in Nigeria and abroad and I know quite a few where I live. I think that most of us have bought into the myth that all is lost BUT I say it is the opposite, Nigeria is changing and changing fast. The old guard is dying out and when they are all gone, maybe in a decade, you will see.
Another mistake some of us make is that when we attempt to get into making a change, we attempt to start out big or start with our immediate family. Try my formula, go back to your village or town and find one poor person and try to change them. Starting with your family seldom works from experience.
Don't give up and you will be amazed and how far you can go with the equivalent of what you spend on things you don't need currently.
revmallam

Politics › Re: What Have You Done For Nigeria Or Your Country In Your Entire Life? by RevMallam(op): 9:24pm On Mar 28, 2009

cold:
When i used the phrase "holier than thou" it has nothin to do xtianity or goin to church,neither does the phrase "young man necessarily mean youth.You should know better.Bak to the subject,i did not say givin loans does not change lives,pls don't misconstrue me because i'm also in the philantrophy business but i'm not maqin plenty of noise abt it.We're talkin abt movin ahead as a nation.It is mind boggling how an individual wld corner everything meant for the citizenry,we're talkin abt primitive accumulation of wealth,we're talkin abt greed,avarice,land grab etc.GET IT?

I applaud you for your philanthropic ventures and believe me, most of us that are doing it do not wear it on our sleeves, but I was asked to list what I have done. Yes, the world is where it is today, because a few individuals cornered global wealth and they are NOT Nigerians. Was it not the late Mallam Umaru Dikko who preached against unbridled greed and avarice in his failed campaign back in the 1980's? I GET IT, and PLEASE keep doing what you are doing, one poor person at a time and watch it multiply. Poor people never change systems, perhaps, when the number of changed people grows, they will join in initiating change !
revmallam

Politics › Re: What Have You Done For Nigeria Or Your Country In Your Entire Life? by RevMallam(op): 9:04pm On Mar 28, 2009

Becomrrich:
it is not that you commit murder english murder, seun is trying using you to make money.

Revmallam I know you are telling a lie about do so many thing for nigeria.

And if you claim you live abroad. then you should know what other countries do for thier citizen and you do not need to ask.

Just say , you do not know and you want to know.

And if you are with the nigeria, and you want me to like nigeria, can nigeria buy me a private jet. ? If nigeria can buy me a private jet then i know Nigeria love me. I am joking.

If I start we would never finish. I live abroad and I know. Even no matter how much you people may claim you hate white people online. If you look at what thier society offer you. Nigeria does not offer the same.

Even if you want to success, people in nigeria govt would look for ways to block you. That how nigerian think. Many nigerian abroad dont associate with other nigeria because that bring you down is till in them.

You see we would tell you when we get to benin republic.

Now revmallam can you show me how nigeria have love me. I mean what have nigeria done for me,

If you show what nigeria have done for me. I would show you several i have done for nigeria with no reward for it. I have contributed more to nigeria than your president.

You seem to have a panchant for attempting to change topics from the original issues to "hating white people", "hating America", hating this or that. I don't really see where this topic has said anything about hating anyone.
So, since you live abroad, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR WHERE YOU LIVE?. I will not discuss where I live, but be assured that I have lived in both US and Britain and STILL live outside Nigeria and that I am fully aware of what they "offer" their citizens. So here is my challenge, name ONE THING that US or Britain offers their citizens and how those "gifts" get to the recipients.
I implied that I will list what Nigeria has done for every Nigerian in the original post. Then I will list what US and Britain has done for their citizens too. I believe then we can compare and contrast. But these will be in different posts.
Sadly, you are sticking to the same old dogma of blame the "leadership", but that is a topic for another post.
So let's assume, I don't know what I am talking about and have never left my back yard in Nigeria, so PLEASE tell us WHAT have you done for YOUR community where ever it is?
Just curious: have you noticed that only 4% of respondents, have made any form of contributions to the country others criticize?
revmallam

Politics › Re: What Have You Done For Nigeria Or Your Country In Your Entire Life? by RevMallam(op): 7:49pm On Mar 28, 2009

Ebony-Silk:
I've actually tried to start a Nigerian Organization Didn't work.
Not a big organization sha. Just a school thing.
I've had it planned out, organized it and talked to some people.

I know how long and how hard it is to get student grants.

This summer, I want to put it into action or sth.
No, it does not include sending money to naija
Just a club or organization.

GOOOD LUCK and hope it works, just be sure to start small with one or two people. When you get those to see the value of what you are trying to do and get them to share your vision, they will do the rest of the work for you. Just don't expect 100 % success and WHATEVER you do, NEVER SPEND MONEY that will NOT GROW money except ofcourse what is needed to organize the organization.
Have you however noticed that 95% of the respondents have avoided the question or tried to change the topic?
Keep up the good work.
revmallam

Gators!

Politics › Re: What Have You Done For Nigeria Or Your Country In Your Entire Life? by RevMallam(op): 7:37pm On Mar 28, 2009

cold:
Young man,pls stop givin us all these holier than thou sermons.I travel home too and do my bit.I have received an award from an orphanage home whilst in Nigeria for volunteering my tym and resources to teach in the home.But that is bsides the point-the point is the system does not permit "good samaritanism",there's no level playing ground and You run the risk of been annihilated if u try to change the system.So givin loans and volunteering will not get us into top 20 countries.The Nigerian problem is leadership;period.

LOL, I am NOT young, but wish I was. I last saw youth a decade ago. I am not holy either, don't even go to church, (see my other posts). I do however disagree that small loans do not change people. Ask Indians where this is a big venture. You will be amazed at the number of people who have never seen 20 thousand naira in their entire life. Yes it does change life and I encourage you to try it and then let us know the results.
Secondly, I also disagree that Nigeria's problem is Leadership only. I am of the opinion, that it is 50% leadership and 50% the people.
And yes, you can, if you band with others make a difference BUT you can also do it on your own by changing ONE life at a time.
I applaud you for your efforts so far, but why not take it a step further by getting more friends involved?
revmallam

Politics › Re: What Have You Done For Nigeria Or Your Country In Your Entire Life? by RevMallam(op): 7:19pm On Mar 28, 2009

sleek_p:
BRAVO TO RevMallam for starting this thread.
We Nigerians are the only species on earth who expect to reap where others sowed. Most criticism of Nigeria comes from Nigerians living abroad.
For those of us lucky enough to have fled the country the least we can do is invest in Nigeria or shut up.

Having lived and studied abroad, what innovation did you bring to Nigeria?
Am sure it's human beings that built America and Europe which we so admire.

If you've not made it overseas, blame yourself and stop raining your frustration on Nigeria.

Glad you like it, but seriously, this is a question we all need to ponder and use as a basis to impugn the virulent critics. Over the years, I have collected a huge database of Nigeria critics and was horrified to find out that the majority, 98.9% have contributed ZERO to the country and NOT even their local villages !!
You will be shocked to see who I have in my list, but it includes most newspapers editors who yell and pander on a daily basis, etc.
I am waiting to see what each respondants have contributed in their own way.
revmallam

Politics › Re: What Have You Done For Nigeria Or Your Country In Your Entire Life? by RevMallam(op): 7:08pm On Mar 28, 2009

Jakumo:
I elaborate on the financial crimes of Nigeria's looting class,
When in Nigeria. I also contribute to the Nigerian Police Endowment Fund, at the rate of 50 naira per checkpoint - a practice which has so far prevented my falling victim to an "accidental discharge" of hot lead.

Strange that you elaborate on financial crimes but then you encourage lawlessness. I also visit Nigeria, but I have never contributed to the scheme you mentioned although I have been asked several times. The worst that has happened to me was being detained between Owerri and Aba road for a total of 3 hours for refusing to comply. When I was released, I promptly filed a complaint against the officers at Owerri and in the end, they were transfered out. Currently, my lawyers are working on a case against another police division, but I will not go into details. You see, you can stand your ground if you do it the right way.
On the second point, I do object to the branding of Nigeria as the only country with financial crimes problems by various postings. The truth is that, it is a global problem and what is happening in the western world now proves me right.
But,I was looking for Financial or some other Tangible contributions. All the same, have you considered investing or contributed to your community by making a small loan to one poor woman or man? Be sure they present you with what they intend to do with the money THAT WILL YIELD MORE money. Never give money to consumers. You will be amazed how far 50 thousand invested in selling Garri will change the life of a poor woman or man and how happier you will be seeing your contributions change a life. Give it a try.
revmallam

Politics › Re: What Have You Done For Nigeria Or Your Country In Your Entire Life? by RevMallam(op): 6:29pm On Mar 28, 2009

cold:
Revmallam, don't get it twisted. Things are a lot different between the developed countries and the developing ones-Nigeria to be precise. At least for one-in developed countries capital run after ideas, in Nigeria ideas run after capital. If that is not a major difference tell me & i'l giv u more.

True to some degree, but that capital that runs after Ideas was generated by People who have contributed to Britain or US. They in turn put that money to use and as you can see, they can say if they were on this board that they contributed to their country.
Secondly, I believe you are generalizing when you imply that ideas run after capital in Nigeria. This is not generally true, but it occurs in every nation. We can say that Dangote, the Ibrus, Ovia, Ekene Dili Chukwu and all the young millionaires we have today, are following the dictum you refereed to.
But I don't believe that the original post in any way attempted to or in way compared Nigeria to any country. I simply asked, WHAT have you done for your country or community?

revmalam

Politics › Re: What Have You Done For Nigeria Or Your Country In Your Entire Life? by RevMallam(op): 6:16pm On Mar 28, 2009

DeReloaded:
Comparing US to Nigeria is dumb.

How is that dumb? You can always compare any two entities. One can either be positive and the other nagative or vice versa. So what has the US or Britain done for their citizens and please expand on what you mean when you say done. Are you refering to FREE or PAID services?

Surprisingly, all the respondents have NOT ANSWERED the question posed by the post. So I surpose, you are a citizen of American or Britain, if yes, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE for either one?

revmallam

Politics › Re: What Have You Done For Nigeria Or Your Country In Your Entire Life? by RevMallam(op): 6:08pm On Mar 28, 2009

yousouph:
The poster should not try 2 compare Nigeria with US or Britain because they are evidently differ. Who will want 2 die or do anything 4 Naija when d govt never cares about d citizens except their sons or daughters.

Please name a few things the US and Britain provide or have done for their citizens. I have lived in both countries and know what's factual and what's not.
Also, please expand on "what US and Britain have done". By this do you mean, what they provide for free or what is available if you have money to pay for it?

revmallam

Politics › Re: What Have You Done For Nigeria Or Your Country In Your Entire Life? by RevMallam(op): 6:03pm On Mar 28, 2009

Becomrrich:
The question should be what have your country done for you. Has Nigeria done anything for its citizen.

Sadly, your response is exactly what the problem is with Nigeria. John Kennedy of America once said, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country".
You see, although I am a Nigerian, I have spent most of my adult life outside Nigeria and on a daily basis, we hear these fictitious stories of what America, Britain does for their citizens. Problem is, most of these stories are not true. I have lived in both countries for extended periods and I can tell you what they provide and have done for their citizens. So can you name one thing those countries you admire have done for their citizens and I will honestly tell you if it is true or not.
I will wait till you reply.

revmallam

Politics › Re: What Have You Done For Nigeria Or Your Country In Your Entire Life? by RevMallam(op): 5:50pm On Mar 28, 2009

pureminded:
Hello Mr Poster , What have you also done for our country in your entire life ? Say yours and we get impressed and we share ours too !!

Glad you asked, so here it is:
In all, I have loaned a total of 2.5 million naira to small scale village people in installments of 50 thousand up to 200 thousand to start a small business, mostly petty trading etc. My goal is to make them self sustaining. I personall don't believe in giving people money, because I believe that if people don't work for money, they don't value it. You will be surprised to hear that in all, they have mostly repaid the loans with few exceptions. I then reloaned the money to other poor people to get started. My latest project involved a 250 thousand loan and I am happy to report that they have paid back half ! This has been a rewarding project for me (spritually) and it is NEVER my intentions to make money from it. My only goal is to help the less fortunate with money THAT I CAN afford to lose if it becomes necessary.
(2) I have contributed to various projects including Rural electrification of my community.
(3) Back in the early 1990's, I ran a computer training school that offered training and employed people in Aba, but it failed and looking back, I can say that it failed because it was ahead of it's time.
(4) Currently, I am finishing a rural health doctors visits program that will serve my local community. That is, villagers get to see a doctor 2 times annually and we pick up the bill. This project is will be funded by myself and a few other friends.
(5) Finally, I have put people through University education, one is now an engineer (with no job currently) and the other is still in medical school.

So now, your turn.
revmallam

Politics › Re: What Have You Done For Nigeria Or Your Country In Your Entire Life? by RevMallam(op): 4:44pm On Mar 28, 2009

banom:
Was it not God that asked me to be fruitful and multiply ?

I suppose, with responsibility. So other than being irresponsible, what else have you POSITIVELY contributed to your country or community ?
(Notice the word positively) Adding to BASTARDS population is NOT a positive contribution.
revmallam

Politics › Re: What Have You Done For Nigeria Or Your Country In Your Entire Life? by RevMallam(op): 4:10pm On Mar 28, 2009

noetic:

u have added to the irresponsible population rate. . . . go n sin no more. . .

Then you are criminal and should be put in jail or killed. In America, those who father children they cannot support are put in jail when caught or made to pay for them.
I am looking for serious replies please.
revmallam

Politics › What Have You Done For Nigeria Or Your Country In Your Entire Life? by RevMallam(op): 3:16pm On Mar 28, 2009

If you look carefully, you will observe that most people bad mounting Nigeria and Africa in general are either Africans themselves or foreign white racist neocons who will never see anything positive about black people. But this subset is not the object of this post. My question is simple: What have you as an Individual done for Nigeria or YOUR country if you are not a Nigerian?
I know some of you will retort and ask me What has Nigeria done for you? I will tell you what America, Britain etc has done (if any )for their citizens later.
But the QUESTION is WHAT HAVE YOU done or Contributed to Nigeria or YOUR COMMUNITY in your entire LIFE?

revmallam

Politics › Re: How America Stole The World Blind And Called It "global Meltdown". by RevMallam(op): 2:57am On Mar 28, 2009

Becomrrich:
china control of africa is not good for us africa.

I agree completely. The only solution is for Africans to control Africa. But the question is, can young Africans rise up to the challenge?
It is clear that the old guard has failed.
revmallam

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Politics › Re: How America Stole The World Blind And Called It "global Meltdown". by RevMallam(op): 12:52pm On Mar 25, 2009

I am relieved to see that not everyone here in Nigeria and other parts of tthe world are buying into this crap. Happy there are some self thinking people out there.
BUT have we imagined for one minute if this started in some other nation? visualize what would have been on CNN, BBC. Imagine what Rueben Abati of the guardian would have written !! Imagine for one minute.
revmallam

Politics › Re: How America Stole The World Blind And Called It "global Meltdown". by RevMallam(op): 2:42am On Mar 25, 2009

No2Atheism:
1. I don't know about the Titanic, hence i can't comment about it.
,

Deep and great analysis of the so called NWO (New world disorder, if you ask me). I quit all organized religion long ago. I quit the Catholic church after a priest stole my girlfriend. Then I became a Moslem and almost got killed in Minna for debating a point about the Koran. These days, I just drink Ogogoro and so be it.
Your post has reaffirmed my belief that I made the right decision. Most of the world's problems including the current FRAUD is perpuated by people carrying either the Bible, the Koran or whatever book the organized cult they belong to deems chosen.
Wake up people, Wake up and think for yourselves !!
revmallam

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Politics › Re: How America Stole The World Blind And Called It "global Meltdown". by RevMallam(op): 12:23am On Mar 25, 2009

strangleyo:
I don't blame America for what it did.

I blame the victims for allowing it to happen.

You are right, and believe it or not, I don't blame them either. I blame the news media because they were used as conduits for this FRUAD of the century.
However I resent their atempt to rename the act. When George Bush called it " Corporate Malfeasance", it did not stick, becuase that word is not in American everyday vocabulary. So they came up with a new one, "Global Meltdown" and that seems to have stuck and is working as designed.
What a crappy world we live in !!
revmallam

Politics › Re: How America Stole The World Blind And Called It "global Meltdown". by RevMallam(op): 4:11am On Mar 24, 2009

No2Atheism:
RevMallam, welldone for trying,

Yes u are correct, it was a Global Fraud, for the following simply reasonings:

I wish people will wake up and see what really is going on. Hearing people call it "global meltdown" is very annoying when even a blind person can see the blatant fraud going on. I sympatiaze with poor blacks, whites and all other colours in-between all over the world who are being screwed, by this nonsense.

I do believe that when we start asking the media to call a spade a spade, they may do that.
Anyone who believes that there is really a "global meltdown" should come and buy the river Niger from me.

Let's call a spade a spade, It is GLOBAL THEFT.
revmallam

Politics › Re: How America Stole The World Blind And Called It "global Meltdown". by RevMallam(op): 10:55pm On Mar 22, 2009

Becomrrich:
not fraud thier banks were affected.

Interesting logic, BUT was it not the same banks who marketed the bogus equities in the first place ?
Seems to me like they sold stuff they knew they did not have and when the buyers they bilked came looking for what they paid for, they then turned around and claim there was a hole in their pockets !! Remind me again, is this not what we call 419 here in Nigeria or by it's legal name, Theft by taking?
(Section 419 of Nigerian criminal code?)
revmallam

Politics › Re: How America Stole The World Blind And Called It "global Meltdown". by RevMallam(op): 9:27pm On Mar 22, 2009

texazzpete:
@RevMallam
Whether the crisis was caused by greedy people, or by looters or whatever, the end result is that the world is in a serious global meltdown.
I would suggest you google the words 'global' and 'meltdown' and find a meaning from the combination.

Secondly, i despise people why deliberately distort information to make an insidious point. You point to an article written by an influential financial guru inwhich he points the finger at a cabal of looters' being somewhat responsible for the financial mess. Yet your title clearly states 'America', clearly trying to point the finger at the entire nation being responsible.

One day, i pray i understand the need for many of your religious persuasion to paint the US as black as they possibly can.

Oh no, here we go again !! For your information, I am NOT a member of any organized religion, moslem, christian or what have you. I believe they are all businesses milking the gullible dry, essentially frauds.
It seems however whenever issues are raised, people like you hide under religion or anti- this or that to change the topic. The author of the article is an American and he is not alone in saying it. You can monitor American TV and you will see many others saying same thing.
The article said, it was greedy Americans who caused it, so are you saying I distorted the article or what?.
The origins of this fraud is this: for the past 10 years, US congress, deregulated their financial markets and repealed existing laws. The result was that weathy people with a lots of money setup phony companies and banks. Global commerce being dominated by the dollar, bought these phony junk and the result of this deregulation and removal of checks and balances is what we have now.
So which of this is not factual ? Please let's not introduce religion or anti this or that into this and stick to the facts. I am of the opinion that you Americans and Britons don't like to be exposed when caught.
NO "global meltdown" is an obfuscation. The only thing global about it is that the entire world bought it because the global commerce is dollar dominated.
So why did we not call the Japanese version that occured "Global meltdown" after all, Japan is the second largest economy.
Just curious, where have I called Americans the names you insinuated?
revmallam

Politics › Re: How America Stole The World Blind And Called It "global Meltdown". by RevMallam(op): 9:05pm On Mar 22, 2009

PapaBrowne:
@revmallam

,
Most of these derivatives are controlled from London and New York, although they originate from all over the world.

These derivatives was the tool the US & the UK used to suck the world dry!!!!
If you understand derivatives, you'll get the picture!

Derivatives should be taught in schools and universities the world over. Ofcourse, I do understand derivatives and most of the editors of newspappers also understand it, but they are so afraid to expose the scam, so they go along with lines handed down from London and New York. They attempt to confuse the masses and the gullible and rename what even a blind person can see.
Some people and I am afraid to say, most have bought it and have joined in repeating this mantra of "global meltdown" nonsense. American and Britons simply sold nonexistent equities that are not backed by any verifiable assets and when they got caught, they rename it "global meltdown" or in George Bush terms "corporate malfeasance". NONSENSE, I say, Global Thievery made in AMERICA and ENGLAND.
But can anyone imagine what CNN, BBC etc, etc will be saying if it was the other way? Our newspaper editors are shameless clowns for repeating this nonsense of "Global meltdown". Can they be Man\Woman enough to stand up and call it what it really is? I am not holding my breath !!
revmallam

Politics › Re: How America Stole The World Blind And Called It "global Meltdown". by RevMallam(op): 8:06pm On Mar 22, 2009

MrCrackles:
Uhmmmm, deep thinking right here!

If the so called mainstream media will start calling it what it really is, maybe we will find a solution. Hiding behind semantics, obfuscation and what have you will not fix it. In plain English, they ROBBED the world blind, then they turned around and renamed it, "Global Meltdown". Recall that George Bush called it, "Corporate Malfeasance". The question is, why not call a spade a spade? They stole the money from around the world simple and short. In Nigeria, we call it 419 !!. So why are going around and calling an obvious fact all these convoluted names?
Have we stopped to think for one minute what CNN, BBC and western media will be saying, if this originated in another country or a citizen of another country stole $65 billion globally?
revmallam

Politics › Re: How America Stole The World Blind And Called It "global Meltdown". by RevMallam(op): 7:10pm On Mar 22, 2009

A-town:
You seem to be confused. You have highlighted the cause of the global meltdown. That does not take away from the fact that we have a GLOBAL MELTDOWN. World economies are crumbling. What do you call that?
I get your point. Yes Americans and Britons caused it. blah blah. As a result of their greed/419 we have a GLOBAL MELTDOWN

My point is that we should remove all the semantics and call it what it really is: A GLOBAL FRAUD and NOT a "Global Meltdown". Calling it "Global Meltdown" implies the entire world is complicit in creating it which is NOT the case. It is affecting other parts of the world because they bought into the fraud. There no "Global Meltdown", rather we have GLOBAL FRAUD impacting the rest of the world because global commerce is dollar dominated.
REMOVE semantics and call a Thief a Thief, maybe they will change.
revmallam

Politics › Re: How America Stole The World Blind And Called It "global Meltdown". by RevMallam(op): 5:45pm On Mar 22, 2009

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It is a global meltdown. The fact that it originated from America does not change that fact.
The world (globe) depends/revolves around America so you'd expect that if anything happens to America, the world will be affected.
It simple economics. If America sneezes, the world shivers, likewise if she catches malaria the entire world catches typhoid fever.
[quote][/quote]It seems to me you missed the point. Calling it "Global Meltdown" obfuscates or hides what really happened. The facts are that what happened is that a group of wealthy white Americans and Britons colluded and sold bogus investements globally. They simply sold investments backed by non existent assests or inflated values. When purchasers came looking for the assets they purchased, they quickly found out that they never existed. Here in Nigeria, we call it "419" and in America, they call it, "Ponzi Scheme". Ponzi was the name of an American fraudster who lived several years back.
The only thing global about it is that they sold these phony investments "Globaly". So it is an American fraud engineered by them and their British cousins.
Those are the facts . So no matter where you live in the world, if you invested in American or British or equity markets around the world, then you are a victim, because equity markets rely on the dollar, but they had nothing to do with the fraud. So let's call it what it is, American 419 and NOT "global meltdown"
revmallam

Politics › Re: How America Stole The World Blind And Called It "global Meltdown". by RevMallam(op): 3:42pm On Mar 21, 2009

JJYOU:
revmallam your name said it all

I don't understand. I was a reverened, then I became a moslem, but now, I am a senior member of the church of Ogogoro.
But seriously, we should stop being naive and call it what is, global thievery by Americans and British.
The so-called "Meltdown" is a sham to obfuscate the obvious and now even their own people are now raising same point I made several months ago.
revmallam

Politics › How America Stole The World Blind And Called It "global Meltdown". by RevMallam(op): 2:42am On Mar 21, 2009

I have long argued that the so called "Global Meltdown" is nothing but a carefully planned and well executed global FRAUD engineered by wealthy white Americans and their British cousins. I want to state again, that there's no such thing as "Global Meltdown", rather we should call a spade a spade and call it what it really is, The Fraud of the century or the looting of World financial system by Americans and the British. When I first raised this point on this forum, some accussed me of being anti- America etc, etc, BUT I now have the last laugh becuase Americans themselves are now saying same thing.
Here is an interesting piece http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/JubaksJournal/fluke-credit-crisis-was-a-heist.aspx by an infleuntial American financial guru.
If we had a News media here in Nigeria, they will call it what it really is, Global Fraud, made in America and Britain.
Consider these facts:
One man alone named Berney Medoff stole $65 billion. Another from Texas ran a fraud empire of $80 Billion. An American Bank paid $18 billion in bonuses to executives. Three other banks paid a total of $40 billion in bonuses combined. A British trader "lost" $3 billion in trades.
If you believe there's a "Global crisis", then I will sell you the River Niger for One Naira !

revmallam

Politics › Re: Huge Capital Flight Hits Nigerian Economy by RevMallam: 3:22am On Dec 08, 2008

Charlesmud:
OK that is from your point of view thinking Nigeria is growing but am sure you didnt check the Global market 2007/2008 and also didnt see the way Nigeria is making so much exports with no sign of development or improvement in Nigeria's economy. Nigeria now wants to join a union (WAMZ) to start up with the same currency (ECO) zone by december 2009 all due to be able to stabilies the economy (This single currency idea has already being done in Europe since 1995, I think).
Europe has being the most successful and stable region and continent in the world, U also know everybody follows their idea, they don't fight for fast growth like America or China but mentain a constant way of development (brilliant system). As you also see everybody uses Europe forms of idea which is the best so far since 15th century.

You said both the European and America have being the crash of the present economical problem, But why don't you talk from the wonderful things and inventions they have done through-out the world. They have created economy, created things that makes the world now, they made you know english and u can see its very easy for everybody to communicate easily and good. So far they have done us more good than harm so you should appreciate that and stop saying the little errors they cursed (since 1960 what has Nigerian leaders done for u ?), If not the European, would we know what crude oil is or whats its for? after all we have being in Africa (Nigeria) since 10th century or even more

My friend, This is not racist at all cus in-fact I am a pure and full member of fight against racism here in Europe and I don't take bulshits from any white bastards. I just want you to understand somethings and not mix them up due to your dislikes or hatred to the Europeans and Americans cus they have done us more good than harm which is so clear, Yes they say bulshits on the media ok, why can't Africa create or form something or is anybody stopping them? Even AIT in Nigeria is not doing anything positive in Nigeria let alone in Africa, Its a free world. U can tell Nigeria can't survive alone without them but they survive and created things without Africa or can't you SEEEEEEEEEEEEEE? Why can't Africa create or atleast Nigeria to do something, so far you can see how our politicians are messing-up in the government. (that shows what ?) hahaha

Their is nothing special to expect than for Africans to be better and that wont be our generation, Yes Nigerians are extra-ordinarily good and I know and admit that. So why are Nigerians not promoting their own cus it is even the same white white you hate that his helping them grow and making their talent known.

I love Nigeria and am in support 100% but we should also say and admit the truth that we have gain from this so called white people and they have helped us in so many ways (If not them how will Nigeria be rich with the oil), I am proud and always will be a Nigerian. (Black)

You have injected race into what has all along been an intellectual discussion and I will not be part of it. I really don't know where I stated that I don't like or hate Americans and Europeans, but please speak for yourself and leave me out of your race based assumptions and assertions.
The assertions I made are verifiable facts that you can look up.
You are free to live in a servant master mind set. You are free to believe that English language should be adored, but for your information I speak and write other languages. But try telling the Chinese that English is the best thing since sliced bread and see what they say.

fyi: In the US, the fastest growing language is not English. It is Spanish, Mandarin Chinese and English a distant third.
Considering that you have deviated from the original topic and delved into race baiting, I would rather not discuss your "points", but speak for youself about not liking Americans or Europeans.
revmallam

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