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Lana1:
kuku kee ursef then. Becoz whether he ends the season trophyless, or he doesn't make UCL or maybe even both sef, baba ll still be here for the nxt 5 yrs.

You want God to run your life the way wenger is running arsenal abi?

If not because of his greed and hunger for power, with his age, he shouldn't have come in the first place. He should have been somewhere in Daura chilling with Aisha in "za oza room" till death comes.

Any which way, whether he comes back or not, Osinbajo for life

ritababe:
I love men with beards.

Time to grow my beards.

Osogbo weed

Danhumprey:
Ameeeeeennnnnn, baba! Signed and sealed in Heaven!


but............. #WengerForever!

FriendChoice:
Your intention doesn't make them your sisters but sisters cousins.

My intention does.

That means that side need more Islamic education. Because the Quran clearly stated who and who you cannot marry. And they are not aware cousins marriage is allowed? Then they need to read the Qur'an more and more.

No, don't get me wrong. Yoruba Muslims scholars knows about it, but most nominal Muslims like myself and others don't know about it maybe because scholars don't talk about it.

You yourself knows deep into your heart that the Hausa culture of today is more of Islamic culture. A Hausa can sacrifice his culture for Islam sake.

Yeah.. Make i just shut up here

You're not in that Field. I should be the one to speak not you. As I said earlier the genetic disorder is very rare.

Yes I'm not in the field but to be honest, do you think a medical practioner - without appealing to religion - will give such advice?

So if two cousins wants to marry, a test should be conducted on them first. The genetic constituent of several people differs and so test need to be done.

So you are talking about test too, since you know the chances of it not working is high compared to marrying an outsider.

This crap you write doesn't make them your Hiram.

Okay sha.

purplekayc:
Dz guy no dey leave

At this junction, i really wish arsenal continues to lose. I pray they don't qualify for next year champions league. I pray they crash out of this current FA cup campaign.

So be it.

FriendChoice:
Shut-Up how dare you challenge decree of the Lord.
Your female cousins are not your Hiram although they are your extended family relatives. No body is saying you should treat them as unrelated, but you shouldn't treat them as Hiram. Marriage do exist between you and them.

But i think intention and how i see them is what matter most. I see my cousin as my siblings. Infact, i don't call them my cousin, i refer to them as my sister and so on like that.

Nobody force you to marry them and you also shouldn't stop others of your own tribe (from cousins marriage) base on outdated culture or so.

Yes, i don't really feel someone forcing me to do it, i actually found it repulsive. And i can't stop my fellow tribesmen from doing what they can't even conceive. I am yet to see a yoruba Muslim doing it, infact most Muslims here don't know it is allowed, even if they do, I'm certain they won't. Although I've seen our Hausa brothers doing it, but it's also rare.

And our culture is not outdated..hausa culture is

Except in the case where a medical advice is given on particular individuals. (Not general).

No. Medical advice is against it and I'm certain you don't agree with science here, do you?

If this is civilisation, then I rather live uncivilized.

Good for you

This is Allah's decree and there is nothing Rilwan can do to change it. Signed and Sealed

Well you are right, I'm not intending to change it. I only see my cousin as my siblings and I wouldn't treat them like an outsider talk less thinking of marrying them.

It's not mandatory, is it??.

hahn:
I do not need to forgive you for something you did on purpose besides every single theist on this forum hurl insults like kilode. No be today. You are the one that needs to check yourself

I didn't do it on any purpose, just reply the basic points i raised in the post.

No, I do not but since you have described it as a "being" do you care to share a picture?

Continue deceiving yourself ehn

tintingz:
Eledumare is the creator, which Yoruba call "eleda".

-Eledumare = Creator

Well the reason why i said last night that "olodumare" is more likely to be mistook for Allah is that, I've heard on different occasion by yoruba paganists that the break-down of the word is ONI-ODU-TO-MO-IRE: the ODU there stands for Odu-ifa and other pagan stuffs like that. So it roughly mean the diviner that knows success.

Eleda means creator and not Eledumare.

hahn:
God is an idea man created to fill his ignorance

Really? Please ignore and forgive me what you perceived to be insults in my last post and kindly reply the post in full — maybe we can reach a consensus on this issue.

What is your own definition?

God is the Supreme Being. The brain behind all that constitutes the universe.

Do you agree or not?

AbdelKabir:
he has shown too much disbelieve in this thread such that if we were in an Islamic state, he would've been taken to the psychiatric hospital to see if he his still mentally OK, then the judge taking the appropriate judgement.

Caveman, what are you saying now

And @ Taiwo, thank your stars that you are in a secular state, else na die you dey. See what this caveman just outlined for you lol

, this is why he sees his Shia friend, his igmorant friend and his sufi friend that increase him in misguidance.

There you go again with your holier than thou attitude. You are the most holy. The all knowing that sees others as ignorant. Your delusion is strong and in most cases i just shake my head for you. You are so arrogant that you so much esteem yourself to a point where you see every other persons that doesn't do what you do as a fool.

Well well, whatever flies your jet.

for the records, this thread aimed at two things, namely;
1.) YOU CAN MARRY YOUR COUSIN
hence, 2.) WATCH HOW YOU GET CLOSE TO HER, THE ISLAMIC RULING THAT APPLIES TO UNRELATED PEOPLE ALSO APPLY TO THAT YOUR COUSIN.

My cousin are more like my siblings and trying to say we should treat them like other unrelated people is a caveman idea I'll never accept.

Issue fatwa on my head, that's you wahala

hahn:
Guy, shift

I asked you which god you are referring to and all you do is hurl insults. Who is the olodo now?

In the first what or who do you understand by "GOD"?

hahn:
Too many insults in one reply and no where have I insulted you

Go and pray and ask your god for manners then we can continue this discussion.

Good night madam

Olodo, kuku say you have no refutation to my points and you'll rather deceive yourself than accept God is real.

I eat a lot though

tintingz:
The thing is that Yoruba Muslims and Chriatians mistook Olorun as Allah or Yahweh, something like hijacking the name., this was caused by Bishop Ajayi Crowder.

I don't think the underlined is the case here, i would have agreed if it was "olodumare" — that one was totally mistook. Olorun on the other hand fits in, or what other Yoruba word fits the name of God.

Eshu is not even an evil character like Satan/shaitan.

I really don't know much about eshu, but i think he was an evil character in the yoruba myth sef, if no, kindly enlighten me.

FriendChoice:
is Olorun same as the Islamic Allah or another god in Yoruba land?

Olorun has always been the Yoruba word for God even before Islam spread down here. So whenever you hear a yoruba saying Olorun he's referring to no other person but Allah.

FriendChoice:
Shut up. Islam is bigger than your Useless Olorun..

Olorun is the Yoruba word for God

hahn:
No. Only by faith. That is why there are over 3,000 gods

Your assumption.

Gods always shares characteristics and also loyalty with/to the people who create them.

What do you mean by God always shares characteristics with people who create them?

The Jewish god loves the Israelis. He commanded many deaths of other tribes which are "justified" by the adherents just as the Islamic god loves the Arabs and believes every other tribe are infidels

You are absolutely ridiculous and you are souding deluded as well. I've not even started talking about the Jewish or the Arab God and you are here spewing rubbish.

Let's start here, what do you understand by God?

You mean all the earthquakes,

Earthquakes are usually caused when rock underground suddenly breaks along a fault. How does this disprove and intelligent designer?

diseases, hunger, death, sicknesses etc?

Seriously are you asking about all these^^

Yes. It is proof of god's incompetence

All these doesn't prove the incompetency of the intelligent designer. Have you ever bothered to ask yourself about how human activities on the earth causes all that you listed above?

And btw, how about other complex creations of the intelligent designer? The universe is a typical example. The earth for instance his covered with the ozone layers to prevent direct penetration of the sun. Do you think without the ozone later there would be life on this planet? Or are you assuming such bunch of scientist inovated the ozone later to prevent us? Who could have done that if not an intelligent designer?

Now take yourself for example, have you ever bothered to sit and think about the complexity of yourself? From your brain to your eyes and so on? Come on, are you telling me all these just appeared on this planet all of a sudden?

Take the genetic code for example as well, are all these not a proof of an intelligent designer?

The human eyes for example too, what explanations do you have for all these?

Stop deceiving yourself bro.

Since ancient men had little knowledge of how the world works it was only right that whatever they didn't know was created by "god".

And you that know how the world works, tell us the nothingness that brought forth the universe.

The almighty god of the gaps. We don't know how all this got here so god did it.

I guess you know it all, oya start telling us please.

Rubbish? Then why is that god shares similar traits with dictatorsThe need for constant servitude, the fact that all leaders are "chosen by god" or the fact that it enjoys punishing people only points to the fact that it was created by men who needed to instill fear and blind loyalty from their subjects.

You don't understand the concept of God hence the reason for this your ridiculous assumption.

What do you understand by God? Do you think it's all about how the religionists branded it to be? Apparently you don't know anything.

"Could be". Keyword. Personally I do not care because if it exists it is not worth much thought. I am more concerned about humans than a god that loves playing hide and seek.

God is not playing hide and seek, you are the one closing your eyes in other to prevent yourself from seeing him.

Come on man. No need to act all defensive or are you not proud of your god?
No, I do not "believe" there is a designer just as I do not "believe" there is a sun. If there was a designer it should be as obvious as the presence of a sun.

Smh! Are you really this dull? Even the sun is an example of an intelligent designer? Care you tell us how the sun got there, since you seem to know everything?

Besides, who god epp aside from pastorpreneurs and imams who charge at per prayer billing?

Another dumb assumption. Guy you need to stop deceiving yourself and make use of your senses fa.!!

Then prove it with a picture or video na

I believe my points so far will plant some reasons into your brain; that's even if you have an active one.. Smh

You have proved nothing. The same reason you have given is enough to prove that the flying spaghetti monster created the earth or that the tooth fairy exists

Smh

I do not have any contrary "belief". I simply do not believe any of the versions of god. If god exists, it would show itself instead of hiding behind ancient barbaric and psychopathic myths

You are simply deluded.

Swaggalicious pastor, please tell us another lie

hahn:
Well, god cannot be verified.

Well i believe God can be verified with our brain.

The only versions of god we have always seem to conform to the ideology of the servant of this idea.

I don't get your point here.

Therefore it exists not in the mind.

When i was a kid, perhaps between the age of 5 or 7, i used to ask myself, "if God doesn't exists, then how would the universe look like? where would i be, my parents, my siblings and so on?" honestly, all these thoughts runs through my head as a kid, and seriously they are valid question. Do you think without a supernatural designer, the universe could have been and remain how it is today?

Ignorance.

How?

The need by the elites to control the masses

Rubbish! Religion can fit in to this, but not God. The fact that even kids can conceive the idea of supernatural and unless you want to further deceive yourself — you can't deny the fact that there exist some forces beyond what we can see.

The designer could be a thing and not necessarily a person.

You said the designer could be a thing: a thing like what if i may ask please? Machine?

Which of the narrations of the "designer" do you accept out of the 3,000 variations?

Whichever that i accept is not your concern, do you believe there's a designer or not?

You said it "points to". This shows even you are not sure.

Of course I'm sure.

Besides, you claim it exists. You should be the one to prove it not me because I disbelieve that. Do you understand?

I've proved it by citing the complexity of our universe and all that it encompasses. No one else could have created such a marvellous thing except God. The fact that you disbelieve shows you have a contrary believe, kindly then, share it.

FriendChoice:
The fact: This marriage is Halal. Yoruba should not call it Taboo. So now if Rilwan wants to marry his cousin. is rilwan offending Allah or committing Taboo in Islam? No.

Other Yoruba can call it Taboo but not the Muslims.

Ok

FriendChoice:
Nothing like problem here. If they are certified by a doctor to have kids they should. In fact only few minorities have such genetic disorder.

But you know the odd is high compared to the normal one.

And btw, it is recommended and not mandatory, and so i don't really see this as an issue. The thread is uncalled for in the first place, and i see no reason why the OP should condemn the Yoruba for tagging such thing a taboo.

FriendChoice:
Add details to it.

Read his post again now.

FriendChoice:
Oh I would like to see that commandment that says don't marry your cousins.

You didn't get him right there.

hahn:
Well, for one it only exists in your mind

Care to prove the idea of God only exists in our mind and not in reality?

And what do you think could have prompted the idea in our mind.

Care to prove it is real?

The complexity of our planet including all that it encompasses points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today.

Care to prove otherwise?

hahn:
Your god is imaginary and the declaration is as useless as reciting the Nigerian national anthem

Pray tell, how is God imaginary?

friedcorn:
See this yoruba muslim......e pain am!

Yes, e pain me that those paying for your school fees are doing it in futility.

Better go learn carpentry

^^

Thread destroyed

friedcorn:
Why is this musim mod deleting my comment na? Allow me heir my views na

The man in the video is more sane than you. For you to write simple and plain English sef na wahala. Smh

Yuck!! I can't even swallow the thought.

mayoor15:
Eyah, my guy chop ban last week sha, sorry

Thank you