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Demmzy15:
Egbon I dey run from fight now o, ask rilwayne001!

With tail between your legs

Yuck!

haffaze777:
no wonder u still like trouble,dats remind me "once a general always a general "

Seun:
No, he is not. My folks are all born again and The Ambassadors College, Ota is a Christian school.

Well that's good of him. But i doubt they know you for who you are, do they?

Apparently they should, because i believe most of them are on this forum as well.

I can see Seun's brother in the OP, hope he's not an atheist like his brother?

See OBJ mouth

haffaze777:
rilwayne001 ur attention is needed here

The craziest thing i did as a kid was that i made myself Lieutenant General amidst other kids in my hood And the most stupid thing is that, i started appointing my commanders among them seriously they had no option that to oblige because i was notorious in my street back then .. lol

I remember vividly how i lead them to hunt fruits. We would walk a long way from home looking for where to pluck fruits lol.

My dad would beat the hell outta me but still won't stop me from the General that i was lol. i was really rude and stubborn indeed.

Still having a bit of that Lieutenant General attitude though lwtmb

Cc: demmzy15

todayboy:
Why no profile for the regular soldiers from south south that died
Because he is a northerner that's why so much epistle on him
This same Ali and other soldiers decide not to fight boko haram under Jonathan
Thank God he is dead today
Am so happy

this your hatred is something else and it might kill you one day.

I've counted like 4 different cakes already

Don't know why people are not seeing anything bad is this show of shame. Well, it's her life.

Yuck!

PaulIdu:
The kind of girl all men want but what we get is always the boring nagging eating sleeping ,always suspicious and pray pray type

Hehehehehe

kingtinnie:
maybe that's what i will do sha

Better. He's in the best position to tell you what's up, afterall your portal directed you to him.

kingtinnie:
Abeg guys. when person face tanke wetin go dey the person portal... cuz my portal has been displaying YOUR NAME CANNOT BE FOUND ON THE GOOD STANDING LIST, .CONTACT YOUR LEVEL ADVISER. for weeks now and am starting to get really scared ...if you have any info please feel free to dm on whatsapp 08182782044.thanks

Why don't you contact your level adviser?

Sarassin:
Nothing much to see here….apparently.

Silly me, I tuned in to the thread expecting to read about verifiable Evidence, perhaps some newly discovered and authenticated first century parchment by Roman authorities detailing consternation at the fact that the man they had sentenced to death and recently stuck up on a cross had the temerity to be walking about alive and well in broad daylight, or something.....anything?

Exactly bro! I was expecting something more compelling, alas i was disappointed.

lyterydim:
As a medical doctor in university of home teaching hospital....this condiction is called runtum opion it's a genetic disorder caused by what we called lincru funto,
It's happened to every 1 of 100 children in the world,
It has no cure for now but it's preventable.
Thanks
But don't be srious with me I don't even know what am writing maybe am suffering from tamtu tamdu

Do you have sense at all

Kollyk11:
bro just run for wahala ooo.u go tell ur friend, dem go fight come finish am .com carry the whole matter put for ur head.after God fear woman.

Exactly!

rheether:
Look at his irritating legs

Your mouth is irritating

focus7:
One will observe that the Igbos are the ones drumming for Donald Trump, this tells of their antic for supporting wrong things always, it's so pathetic.

Well put you really know them lol

TomHagen:
Please what exactly is the point? Are you questioning the existence of Jesus?

I'm not questioning the existence of Jesus rather I'm questioning the accounts in the gospels attributed to him.

Really, this thread is just a precursor to the main thread and it's really disheartening that 4evergod1 ran away from this. That won't stop me from opening the main thread though.

LifestyleTonite:
Derailing or speaking the obvious truth?

I was ban last week and they claimed I insulted the Islamic prophet when I didn't. I checked the entire nairaland to see if there was any such rule but found none. When I checked carefully, I realised that the thread where such took place was a thread in the religion section asking pertinent and expository questions about islam. When the questions were unbearable for its adherents, the thread was moved to the Islamic only section which found my post insulting thereby banning me. I believe others were banned too.

Is that fair?

I'm really sorry about that.

Now, please face the topic.

LifestyleTonite:
As you can see, my posts on this thread that critical questions the clear bias islamists enjoy in the section have all been blocked.

Can you now see that it will be silly if any Christian answers your questions?

Your post were hidden because you were derailing which is against Nairaland rule 1.

Now, kindly stay on topic.

LifestyleTonite:
When we open threads that show the blatant hypocrisy, terrorist and women enslavement nature of Islam, your people quickly move it to the islamic section thereby suppressing the truth and preventing us from commenting further.

Open up your own section for fair play to exist. Till then, no one will attend to your topic even if you quote the entire Bible.

Okay

4everGod1:
Mtcheew. Ridiculous Ridiculousness. I never knew I was your headache on NL.

If your thread is meant to convince and convert me to Islam then you should know you have the wrong target as I am too entrenched in Jesus to be moved.

Take your thread to the Islamic section and enjoy because its dead on arrival here.

Dont mention me again pls.

You don't have to cowardly run away like this

My objective is not to convince and convert you to Islam, rather to make you see the discrepancies and the ingenuity of the faith you often try to force down our throats or isn't that what you are doing on Nairaland?

According to: 1  Peter  3:15:  "always  be  prepared  to  make  a  defense  to  anyone  who asks  you  to  give  an  account  of  the  hope  that  is  in  you"

Now where is your defense?

4evergod1

Rilwayne001:
If the authors were not eyewitnesses and were not from Palestine and did not even speak the same language as Jesus, where did they get their information?

Here again, there is not a lot of disagreement among critical scholars. After Jesus died, his followers came to believe he was raised from the dead, and they saw it as their mission to convert people to the belief that the death and resurrection of Jesus were the death and resurrection of God’s messiah and that by believing in his death and resurrection a person could have eternal life. The early Christian “witnesses” to Jesus had to persuade people that Jesus really was the messiah from God, and to do that they had to tell stories about him. So they did. They told stories about what happened at the end of his life—the crucifixion, the empty tomb, his appearances to his followers alive afterward. They also told stories of his life before those final events— what he taught, the miracles he performed, the controversies he had with Jewish leaders, his arrest and trial, and so on.

These stories circulated. Anyone who converted to become a follower of Jesus could and did tell the stories. A convert would tell his wife; if she converted, she would tell her neighbor; if she converted, she would tell her husband; if he converted, he would tell his business partner; if he converted, he would take a business trip to another city and tell his business associate; if be converted, he would tell his wife; if she converted, she would tell her neighbor and on and on. Telling stories was the only way to communicate in the days before mass communication, national media coverage, and even significant levels of literacy (at this time only about 10 percent of the population could read and write, so most communication was oral).

But who, then, was telling the stories about Iesus? Just the apostles? It can’t have been just the apostles. Just the people whom the apostles authorized? No way. Just people who checked their facts to make sure they didn’t change any of the stories but only recounted events that really happened and as they happened? How could they do that? The stories were being told by word of mouth, year after year, decade after decade, among lots of people in different parts of the world, in different languages, and there was no way to control what one person said to the next about jesus’s words and deeds. Everyone knows what happens to stories that circulate this way. Details get changed, episodes get invented, events get exaggerated, impressive accounts get made even more impressive, and so on.

Eventually, an author heard the stories in his church— say it was “Mark” in the city of Rome. And he wrote his account. And ten or fifteen years later another author in another city read Mark’s account and decided to write his own, based partially on Mark but partially on the stories he had heard in his own community. And the Gospels started coming into existence.

Those are the Gospels we now have. Scholars for three hundred years and more have studied them in minute detail, and one of the assured results of this intensive investigation is the certainty that the Gospels have numerous discrepancies, contradictions, and historical problems. Why would that be? It would be better to ask, “How could that not be?” of course, the Gospels contain nonhistorical information and stories.

Our next earliest sources of information about the historical Jesus are the Gospels of the New Testament. As it turns out, these are our best sources. They are best not because they happen to be in the New Testament, but because they are also the earliest narratives of Jesus’s life to survive. But even though they are the best sources available to us, they really are not as good as we might hope. This is for several reasons.

To begin with, they are not written by eyewitnesses. We call these books Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John because they are named after two of Jesus’s earthly disciples, Matthew the tax collector and John the beloved disciple, and two of the close companions of other apostless, Mark the secretary of Peter and Luke the traveling companion of Paul. But in fact the books were written anonymously—the authors never identify themselves—and they circulated for decades before anyone claimed they were written by these people. The first certain attribution of these books to these authors is a century after they were produced. There are good reasons for thinking that none of these attributions is right. Lor one thing, the followers of Jesus, as we learn from the New Testament itself, were uneducated lower-class Aramaic speaking Jews from Palestine. These books are not written by people that. Their authors were highly educated, Greek-speaking Christians of a later generation. They probably wrote after Jesus’s disciples had all, or almost all, died. They were writing in different parts of the world, in a different language, and at a later time. There’s not much mystery about why later Christians would want to claim that the authors were in fact companions of Jesus, or at least connected with apostles: that claim provided much needed authority for these accounts for people wanting to know what Jesus was really like,

Scholars typically date the New Testament Gospels to the latter part of the first century. Most everyone would agree that Jesus died sometime around 30 ce. Mark was the first Gospel to be written, probably around 65-70 ce; Matthew and Luke were written about fifteen to twenty years after that, say, 80-85 ce; and John was written last, around 90-95 ce. What is significant here is the time gap involved. The very first surviving account of Jesus’s life was written thirty-five to forty years after his death. Our latest canonical Gospel was written sixty to sixty-five years after his death. That’s obviously a lot of time.

If the authors were not eyewitnesses and were not from Palestine and did not even speak the same language as Jesus, where did they get their information?

The first thing to stress is that if we want to know about any figure from the past, we need to have sources of information. This may seem obvious enough, but for some reason, when it comes to Jesus, people seem to think that they simply know who he was, what he said, or what he did — almost as if they gained this knowledge by osmosis from the environment. In fact, however, anything you know about Jesus, or think you know, has come to you from a source—either someone has told you, or you have read what someone has written. But where did these people get their information, what makes them authorities, and why should you think they are right?

Every story about Jesus (or any other historical figure) either is historically accurate (something he really said or did) or is made up, or is a combination of the two. And the only way to know whether a detail from Jesus’s life is historically accurate is to investigate our sources of information. The sources available to you, me, and your Sunday school teacher are all the same.

Stories about Jesus have circulated by word of mouth and in writing since he lived and died. Obviously, stories that began to be told last year for the first time were made up. So too the stories that first began to circulate a hundred years ago. What we want, if we want historically reliable accounts, are sources that can be traced back to Jesus’s own time. We want ancient sources.

We do, of course, have ancient sources, but they are not as ancient as we would like. Our very first Christian author is the Apostie Paul, who was writing twenty to thirty years after Jesus’s death. A number of Paul’s letters are included in the New Testament. Other Christian authors may have been writing earlier than Paul, but none of their works survive. The problems with Paul are that he didn’t actually know Jesus personally and that he doesn’t tell us very much about Jesus’s teachings, activities, or experiences. Try this assignment: read through all of Paul’s writings and list everything Paul indicates Jesus said and did. You will be surprised to find that you don’t even need a three-by-five card to list them — whereas his works constitutes the largest portion of the new testament (this is not the bone of contention BTW)

Stupid liar..