Christianity Etc › Re: How Could An Illiterate Man Who Lived 1400 Years Ago Know This?? by Rilwayne001: 8:21am On Jul 29, 2016 |
WORDWORLD: At the AGE OF 12? Well this is someone elses oppinion.
(66) THE CARPENTER GOD! I am T. A. Gardener, 25 years. Jesus was a carpenter when he was twelve years of age and remained so until he was thirty, as The New Testament tells. He was earning his bread through carpentry, and there is certainly nothing wrong with that. However, I could not swallow the idea that God was a carpenter for eighteen years. I could not either swallow the idea that God was not only a carpenter, but just an apprentice in the early years of his career learning carpentry. I could not swallow the idea that Jesus until the age of thirty was behaving like a normal human being and waited until the age of thirty when he began to play the so-called role of God. The Christian God is the only god that was a carpenter! Jesus was a carpenter like thousands of human carpenters, and suddenly he became not a god, but God, God the carpenter or the carpenter God! My modest explanation is this. Jesus is a human being, and when he was thirty, God sent to him His revelation and ordered him to convey the message to the people of Israel only. Jesus is God's messenger. That is all. God gave him miracles as he gave to all messengers before and after him. This was my personal solution to the Christian dilemma. Later, I discovered that my understanding completely agrees with the Islamic understanding. This has convinced me to embrace Islam, which explains all my questions in a very convincing manner.
Read alot more from the site provided below. The question i always ask Christian is that where was Jesus between the age on 12 - 30? Obviously, those anonymous writers of the Bible were hiding somethings about Jesus from us. Jesus was said to be a drunkard according to the Bible. He was said to be ill-tempered man, when he was said to be overturning tables of those traders in the temple. He was said to be jobless and homeless, yet a glutton (according to the Bible) we see also how he was busy drinking alcoholic wine all around, where was he seeing all the money he used in buying wine and foods if he was jobless and homeless? Lol  The main koko here is that, where was Jesus between the age of 12-30? I guess he was *all around.. Lwkmd  Cc: truthman2012, truthmans2012, parisbookaddict, anas09, annunaki2 etc etc |
Phones › Re: Tecno Camon C8 Phone Keeps Shuting Down Apps And Games by Rilwayne001: 8:07am On Jul 29, 2016 |
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Phones › Re: Tecno Camon C8 Phone Keeps Shuting Down Apps And Games by Rilwayne001: 6:36am On Jul 29, 2016 |
You guys should stop rooting your phone, I'm enjoying my own c8 (marshmallows 6.0) with no problem thus far. |
Politics › Re: Operation Awatse: Military Bombs Militants In Fatola. Scores Feared Dead by Rilwayne001: 6:33am On Jul 29, 2016 |
dreamwords:
 DSS Propaganda Perhaps your sense of smell is dead  |
Crime › Re: Indonesia Executes Three Nigerians By Firing Squad by Rilwayne001: 10:37pm On Jul 28, 2016 |
yoged: nooooo, they are the one carrying the gun Muhahahaha  |
Family › Re: I Snubbed Him 12 Years Ago In School, Today We Have 3 Kids by Rilwayne001: 10:25am On Jul 28, 2016 |
You snub me now, you are directly snubbing a future billionaire.  Cc: mznelly  |
Business › Re: Dangote Drops Off List Of World’s 100 Richest Men by Rilwayne001: 8:52am On Jul 28, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Explaining Some Christian Misconceptions About Islam by Rilwayne001: 8:41am On Jul 28, 2016*. Modified: 10:21am On Jul 28, 2016 |
orisa37: Born Again don't misconstrue nothing. They know every God's gift very well. Really? So why are there thousands of sects in Christianity if actually they don't misconstrue nothing? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Explaining Some Christian Misconceptions About Islam by Rilwayne001: 8:40am On Jul 28, 2016 |
truthmans2012: I don't have your time, your mind is made up for Satan. Do you know better than the quran that clearly states muslims are going to hellfire? Do you know more than those islamic scholars who interpreted it rightly? If you bring out any quranic verse that states otherwise it means allaah is not reliable, contradicting himself.
True Christians don't have any problem, we are doubly protected. Jesus said we are going to heaven, allaah too confirms it (Quran 5:69 and 2:62).
 [Quran 2:62] Lo! Those who believe (in that which is revealed unto thee, Muhammad), and those who are Jews, and Christians, and Sabaeans - whoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right - surely their reward is with their Lord, and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve. You don't have my time, yet you wanted me to come to your thread? |
Business › Re: Dangote Drops Off List Of World’s 100 Richest Men by Rilwayne001: 7:50am On Jul 28, 2016 |
ajepako: Bros ...when did you become anti- buhari? Last month  Kilode ke? Tell me why i should be pro buhari when everything is turing upside down  |
Business › Re: Dangote Drops Off List Of World’s 100 Richest Men by Rilwayne001: 7:01am On Jul 28, 2016 |
No thanks to Buhari  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Explaining Some Christian Misconceptions About Islam by Rilwayne001: 6:00am On Jul 28, 2016 |
truthmans2012: No muslim regret being a muslim in this world. Islamic god is the prince of this world. He offers you so much enjoyments in the world but decree hellfire for you.
These are the interpretations of islamic scholars about muslims' fate in HELLFIRE at afterlife. If you cannot read all make sure you read the red statements:
Al-Jalalayn’s Tafsir on Surah 19:71(“Not one of you but will pass through it (hellfire): this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished”), gives the following clarification: “Not one” means that there will be none. “Of you” means all people. “But will pass through” means the entry into hell. “A decree which must be accomplished” means it is a certainty and a judgment from which Allah will not relent. (Translated from Arabic) Source: www.al-islam.com.
Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71: Surah 19:71: “Not one of you but will pass through it (hellfire): this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished.” Imam Ahmad narrated that Sulaiman Ibn Harb narrated that Khalid Ibn Sulaiman narrated that Kathir Ibn Ziad Al- Barsani narrated that Abu Sumaya said, "We differed about the meaning of ‘Passing through it’ (wari-duha). For some of us said that no believer will enter hell and others said all (people) shall enter it and then Allah will save those who have done righteousness. Then I met Jabir Ibn Abdallah and I informed him that we differed about the meaning of, ‘Pass through it,’ and he replied that, “Everyone shall enter it (hellfire).” (Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71, Translated from Arabic)
Another Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71 Narrated by Abdel Razak, narrated by Ibn Ayena narrated by Amru who told us that he heard Ibn Abbas feud with Nafi Ibn Al-Azraq regarding the meaning of, ‘Entering (Al-wurood).’ He said it meant ‘Entering (Hell),’ but Nafi disagreed. Thus Ibn Abbas read (Surah 21:98) “‘Verily ye, and the gods that ye worship besides Allah, are but fuel for Hell! To it will ye surely will enter (Wardan),’ and asked did they enter or not? He also read (Surah 11:98) ‘He will go before his people on the Day of Judgment, and lead them (Awrada-hum) into the fire: but woeful indeed will be the place (Wird) to which they are led (Al-mawrud)!’ Did they enter or not? As for you and I, we will enter it but let us see if we will exit from it and I don’t see Allah taking you out of it because you lie (regarding its meaning).” Nafi then laughed.
Narrated by Ibn Jarir, narrated by Atta who stated that Abu Rashid Al-Harury, who is called Nafi Ibn Al-Azraq, said, "They (the believers) will not hear hell’s roar." So Ibn Abbas responded, "Woe to you! Are you insane? What of Allah’s verse (Surah 11:98) ‘He will go before his people on the Day of Judgment, and lead them (Awrada-hum) into the fire,’ and also the verse (Surah 19:86) ‘And We shall drive the sinners to hell being lead (Wirdan)’? And also the verse (Surah 19:71) ‘Not one of you but will pass (Waridu-ha) through it’? By Allah, the supplication of those who lived previously used to be, ‘O Allah take me out of hell fire peacefully and allow me to enter paradise victorious.’" (Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71, Translated from Arabic) Source: Ministry of Islamic Affairs, Saudi Arabia.
In summary, every muslims will go into hell as soon as he/she dies. What a pity. Make sure you don't die a Muslim. Give your life to Jesus. I have told you several times to come back to that thread where you first talked about this. Why do you enjoy being mischievous? |
Education › Re: At Last, Chibok Pupils Are Back In School (photos) by Rilwayne001: 9:16pm On Jul 27, 2016 |
Nevertheless, fear north |
Business › Re: Naira Hits All-time Low Of 334.50 Per Dollar At Interbank Market by Rilwayne001: 8:11pm On Jul 27, 2016 |
Naira - dollar flunctuation like
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Crime › Re: Man Burnt For Stealing Baby In Benue (pics) by Rilwayne001: 7:59pm On Jul 27, 2016 |
Naija and animalistic jungle justice like
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Politics › Re: Jibrin Approached EFCC, ICPC To Submit Petition Against Dogara And 3 Others by Rilwayne001: 7:16pm On Jul 27, 2016 |
Very gwood. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Explaining Some Christian Misconceptions About Islam by Rilwayne001: 7:10pm On Jul 27, 2016*. Modified: 10:20am On Jul 28, 2016 |
truthmans2012: allaah is not "God", he is "god" says the quran. Click here: www.nairaland.com/3252134/why-does-quran-refer-allah Well, again you've refused to make use of your brain hence the reason why you opened it to say rubbish as usual. I have seen the thread since you opened it. One would expect compelling argument, but will be disappointed after seeing that it was all baseless. If you had think before opening that thread, you wouldn't have opened it, but because you are so agile to criticize islam, you are not making use of common sense again. Since it will be difficult for me in making you reason as long as you don't make use of your common sense except your own line of opinion, i wouldn't bother myself. In the mean time, kindly show annunaki2 how jesus is god almighty. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Sonoflucifer!!!!. ***** Who Is Your Bible HERO?**** by Rilwayne001: 6:53pm On Jul 27, 2016 |
WORDWORLD: He responded to me just few days ago.. THAT GUY IS TRUELY A STAR ON NL..............SON OF THE MORNING STAR. I think he deactivated yesterday.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Sonoflucifer!!!!. ***** Who Is Your Bible HERO?**** by Rilwayne001: 6:44pm On Jul 27, 2016 |
i think the dude deactivated his account. I'm a fan of that guy though hehe  |
Celebrities › Re: Beverly Naya: "I Will Use Premarital Sex To Know If My Man Can Please Me" by Rilwayne001: 6:30pm On Jul 27, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Explaining Some Christian Misconceptions About Islam by Rilwayne001: 6:16pm On Jul 27, 2016*. Modified: 6:32pm On Jul 27, 2016 |
annunaki2: Trust you to like al taquiya threads.  Mr monkey, you know its the other way round  Meanwhile, when are you going to school truthman2012 and parisbookaddict on how jesus is not god? I can't wait to see that day hehehe  |
Phones › Re: MTN Customer Care Thread by Rilwayne001: 5:56pm On Jul 27, 2016*. Modified: 8:09pm On Jul 27, 2016 |
Mr.. jidesim, i subscribed to MTN 1gb for #500 earlier this morning, and by now I've already used 310mb  i didn't download anything as a matter of fact neither did i do much upload. Am i doing some thing wrong? |
Politics › Re: President Buhari Receives Seriake Dickson Of Bayelsa State At State House by Rilwayne001: 5:53pm On Jul 27, 2016*. Modified: 5:53am On Jul 28, 2016 |
Probably to beg bubu on behalf of NDA |
Education › Re: Nasarawa Poly Shut As Students Protest Death Of Colleague by Rilwayne001: 5:50pm On Jul 27, 2016 |
Polytechnic and wahala like
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Christianity Etc › Re: Explaining Some Christian Misconceptions About Islam by Rilwayne001: 5:22pm On Jul 27, 2016 |
Nice thread |
Celebrities › Re: Ani Iyoho Burnt In Fire Stunt Gone Wrong While On Set (Graphic Pics, Video) by Rilwayne001: 5:18pm On Jul 27, 2016 |
 Fine boy don spoil be that |
Politics › Re: TY Danjuma Becomes Ntel Chairman by Rilwayne001: 5:06pm On Jul 27, 2016 |
TY danjuma and billions of NG money are like
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Culture › Re: Wuraola Ogunwusi Looks Gorgeous In New Photos by Rilwayne001: 5:02pm On Jul 27, 2016 |
chuose: He no travel reach Buhari! You are right.  |
Culture › Re: Wuraola Ogunwusi Looks Gorgeous In New Photos by Rilwayne001: 4:53pm On Jul 27, 2016 |
Ooni and traveling like
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Business › Re: Gideon Ime Charlie, Lekki Groundnut Seller Who Earns N1,500 Per Month by Rilwayne001: 4:43pm On Jul 27, 2016 |
MaziOmenuko: OP you made a mistake, try to edit your topic:
It should read N1,500 per day OP is definitely high on mango leaf  |
Politics › Re: Electricity Supply Has Improved Greatly In My Area, What Could Be Responsible? by Rilwayne001: 4:41pm On Jul 27, 2016 |
Although it's getting better, but then we haven't had light since last night  |
Romance › Re: What's Your Take On This? by Rilwayne001: 4:38pm On Jul 27, 2016 |
Mynd44: An older guy wont do somehing you consider childish? Good question  |