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iyke484real:
you want to send them packing... to where bye the way? Ain't they also A member of the zoo? Abi there is racism in the zoo ni

lexiconkabir:
The verse refers to the pagans of Makkah, who were not yet Muslims



ThIs again refers to those that haven't believed yet.

lexiconkabir:
If it does agrees with Alkitab wa sunnah then we are obliged to follow it, we don't need to put in our own reasoning first in front of what Allah and his messenger commanded, this is the plain truth sire. This is the more reason why you need to study the science of hadith.

What do you understand by being judged?

Allah Knows best.

lexiconkabir:
You have to study the science of hadith, to fully grasp why i am so rigid on this issue, and why i believe in all ahadith classed as SAHIH.

This verse doesnt refers to apostates, or does it?

lexiconkabir:
ALL SAHIH ahadith are revelation, some sahih hadith might not go down well with you if you dont have the proper understanding of it, so get the proper understanding, you need to study.

Leave the Bible out of this, the Quran has made it clear that the bible is not a book to be followed

Yes, All SAHIH AHADITH are revelation, the most healthy book on earth is the Quran, followed by Bukhari, i hope that answers your Question.

WAllahi i used to think in your line in the past, but i have tried to study more, hence my line of thinking changed.

lexiconkabir:
Muslims takes rulings from the authentic sayings of the prophet and the Quran, if the Quran keeps Quiet about the punishment of apostates, doesnt mean it contradicts the hadith of the prophet.

And how is this not inline? youve not given us a verse that tells them to go scot free,

this is what we call contradiction, you have a misunderstanding of these things i must say.

They are both revelations from Allah, and we must adhere to both in order to be guided, the prophet said, if we hold on to these two weighty things, we will never go astray.

I seriously don't wanna go further.

lexiconkabir:
Why cancel the part where i asked, "hope you know hadith is also revelation",,

the Quranic verse you quoted does not in anyway contradict this hadith,

moreover, we are asked to follow the messenger, [/quran]

Yes.

[quote]as the Quran fully confirms that he doesn't say anything except he is being inspired to say it.

lexiconkabir:
How does this contradict the hadith?

BTW you don't believe in hadith?

Or you just follow the ones that suits you?

Hope you know hadith is also a revelation?

lexiconkabir:
Are you going to follow your whims, or you gonna follow clear proofs?

lexiconkabir:
Because?

Antina:
Ask him ooo, sheikh Agege sometimes ago laid emphasis on some these hadith quotations that there are some wrong ones which we all know prophet cannot say, people are shouting here and there that he doesn't knw what he is saying, so, in a case where God says and prophet says to Sahih Buhari says, please which one do we count as authentic?

lexiconkabir:
Your Question will be answered by theses following points,


(1) This is the ruling of Allaah and His Messenger, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Whoever changes his religion, kill him." (reported by al-Bukhaari, al-Fath, no. 3017).

(2) The one who has known the religion which Allaah revealed, entered it and practised it, then rejected it, despised it and left it, is a person who does not deserve to live on the earth of Allaah and eat from the provision of Allaah.

(3) By leaving Islaam, the apostate opens the way for everyone who wants to leave the faith, thus spreading apostasy and encouraging it.

(4) The apostate is not to be killed without warning. Even though his crime is so great, he is given a last chance, a respite of three days in which to repent. If he repents, he will be left alone; if he does not repent, then he will be killed.

(5) If the punishment for murder and espionage (also known as high treason) is death, then what should be the punishment for the one who disbelieves in the Lord of mankind and despises and rejects His religion? Is espionage or shedding blood worse than leaving the religion of the Lord of mankind and rejecting it?

(6) None of those who bleat about personal freedom and freedom of belief would put up with a neighbour’s child hitting their child or justify this as "personal freedom," so how can they justify leaving the true religion and rejecting the sharee’ah which Allaah revealed to teach mankind about His unity and bring justice and fairness to all?

Demmzy15:
Did he reply you?

WarRLaY:
*About the rotating bible, I thought and still think the holy spirit rotated the bible ..

DuchessLily:
At the bolded - in an alternate realilty the man didn't answer in that way ... If he had, the story would have ended there I'm sure.... But in the man's egocentricity (as it is with men usually ) he said " ...... its the woman U gave me...... " the reason men are left to find their own wives now... Since adam put d blame on God for his (adam's) stupidity

vizkiz:
Like I mentioned earlier today. when you discover his mightiness you wouldn't be able to THINK

Well, I guess the underlined is the exact point the op was trying to make.

and elaborate with mortal intelligence

Oladim001:
Rilwayne001 see the way they are arguing their own religion. Confused set of people hahaha.

Princewell2012:
Yes you have a point there.

But remember he left with a phisical body?

perhaps he was walking around naked, because we are told that his burial clothes were seen in the tomb.

Naked God.. Lol

gimakon:
Smh, you are Blind. Christianity and Judaism is like the distance from the earth and the sky.