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lexiconkabir:Okay. This verse doesnt refers to apostates, or does it?It refers to it, unless you can prove otherwise. Surah Yunus, Verse 99: وَلَوْ شَاءَ رَبُّكَ لَآمَنَ مَن فِي الْأَرْضِ كُلُّهُمْ جَمِيعًا أَفَأَنتَ تُكْرِهُ النَّاسَ حَتَّىٰ يَكُونُوا مُؤْمِنِينَ And [thus it is:] had thy Sustainer so willed, all those who live on earth would surely have attained to faith, all of them: dost thou, then, think that thou couldst compel people to believe, |
lexiconkabir: we all need it. However we need to scrutinize whatever we are been taught. Leave the Bible out of this, the Quran has made it clear that the bible is not a book to be followedStill doesn't change the fact that the writers of the hadith were not eye witness just like the writer of the Bible. Yes, All SAHIH AHADITH are revelation, the most healthy book on earth is the Quran, followed by Bukhari, i hope that answers your Question.The fact the Quran is followed by Bukhari makes the Quran more viable than it in all way. And so the Quran says"let those who reject faith reject, Allah (swt) will judge them" and the hadith says"kill all those who reject faith" isn't this outright contradiction? WAllahi i used to think in your line in the past, but i have tried to study more, hence my line of thinking changed.And since you are no longer thinking in that line, would you kill any of your relative should they abandon faith? **3rd time** |
lexiconkabir:This falls back to the question asked in my last post: Remember hadith were written centuries after him"what makes you think that all that he was alleged to have said was truly said by him?" And how is this not inline? youve not given us a verse that tells them to go scot free,Surah Al-Kahf, Verse 29: وَقُلِ الْحَقُّ مِن رَّبِّكُمْ فَمَن شَاءَ فَلْيُؤْمِن وَمَن شَاءَ فَلْيَكْفُرْ إِنَّا أَعْتَدْنَا لِلظَّالِمِينَ نَارًا أَحَاطَ بِهِمْ سُرَادِقُهَا وَإِن يَسْتَغِيثُوا يُغَاثُوا بِمَاءٍ كَالْمُهْلِ يَشْوِي الْوُجُوهَ بِئْسَ الشَّرَابُ وَسَاءَتْ مُرْتَفَقًا And say: "The truth [has now come] from your Sustainer: let, then, him who wills, believe in it, and let him who wills, reject it." Verily, for all who sin against themselves [by rejecting Our truth] We have readied a fire whose billowing folds will encompass them from all sides; and if they beg for water, they will be given water [hot] like molten lead, which will scald their faces: how dreadful a drink, and how evil a place to rest!<< unless you want to give this another interpretation of yours. It evident here that the Almighty wants us to know that he is the only one that have the right to punish them. this is what we call contradiction, you have a misunderstanding of these things i must say.Well, that's you opinion. They are both revelations from Allah, and we must adhere to both in order to be guided, the prophet said, if we hold on to these two weighty things, we will never go astray.Refer back to my first question. I seriously don't wanna go further.Neither do i. I however find this ridiculous. |
lexiconkabir:I didn't cancel it sir. I believe hadith are revelations but not all. Just like the Bible, is the mixture of truth and false. I however believe we can remove the false with the quran. And then my questions are: Are all hadiths revelation from Allah? Is the hadith superior to the Quran? the Quranic verse you quoted does not in anyway contradict this hadith,Maybe you should answer my question then. moreover, we are asked to follow the messenger, [/quran]But what makes you think that all that he was alleged to have said was truly said by him? Just like the Bible, what makes you think all that was written about Jesus was not truly about him? |
lexiconkabir:Can you then tell me why Allah (swt) didn't proclaim death for those who abandon faith in that verse, instead, he said he would bring forth people who will love him? Here is another one: Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 90: إِنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا بَعْدَ إِيمَانِهِمْ ثُمَّ ازْدَادُوا كُفْرًا لَّن تُقْبَلَ تَوْبَتُهُمْ وَأُولَٰئِكَ هُمُ الضَّالُّونَ Verily, as for those who are bent on denying the truth after having attained to faith, and then grow [ever more stubborn] in their refusal to acknowledge the truth, their repentance [of other sins] shall not be accepted: for it is they who have truly gone astray .<<<we see Allah Almighty rejecting the faith of those who keep coming back and forth to Islam. In order for a human being to accept Islam as his religion, he must be certain about it first. Allah Almighty's path is wide open, and his mercy is greater than this universe. This Holy Verse also does not order the death of those who leave Islam. BTW you don't believe in hadith?No, I do believe. However I don't believe those ones that are not in line with the Quran. Or you just follow the ones that suits you?The ones that suits? In what quest if I may ask? Hope you know hadith is also a revelation?Is it superior to the Quran ![]() |
lexiconkabir:I still can't see the clear proof there. The Quran says one thing, and the hadith says the other, isn't it obvious that there is a problem somewhere? Like she asked above, if your sister abandon the religion, would you kill her? Thinngs like these makes me really sick ![]() |
lexiconkabir:Surah Al-Maeda, Verse 54: يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا مَن يَرْتَدَّ مِنكُمْ عَن دِينِهِ فَسَوْفَ يَأْتِي اللَّهُ بِقَوْمٍ يُحِبُّهُمْ وَيُحِبُّونَهُ أَذِلَّةٍ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ أَعِزَّةٍ عَلَى الْكَافِرِينَ يُجَاهِدُونَ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ وَلَا يَخَافُونَ لَوْمَةَ لَائِمٍ ذَٰلِكَ فَضْلُ اللَّهِ يُؤْتِيهِ مَن يَشَاءُ وَاللَّهُ وَاسِعٌ عَلِيمٌ O you who have attained to faith! If you ever abandon your faith," God will in time bring forth [in your stead] people whom He loves and who love Him - humble towards the believers, proud towards all who deny the truth: [people] who strive hard in God's cause, and do not fear to be censured by anyone who might censure them: such is God's favour, which He grants unto whom He wills. And God is infinite, all-knowing. ![]() |
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lexiconkabir:Smh.. I don't accept this. |
I vote Lanicky Mysticgal Refiner Ivvy Mimzy Optional1 Etc.. Etc... ![]() Cc: nljega |
Demmzy15:Yes, he replied me once. I asked him where he sees himself after his tenure as Ekiti governor. He replied by saying God is his driver and only him knows. I tried to further question him, but he wouldn't reply. His number has been unveiled by SR for a while now. Other governors inclusive. |
The clown is on WhatsApp. I chatted with him sometimes ago. |
WarRLaY:Holy spirit rotates the Bible? Lol! For what reason or purpose do you think the Bible is being rorated? If you ask me, I see no purpose really. Seems more like a very poor magic that you couldn't notice. Smh. |
I vote Mysticgal Lanicky Mimzy MissGdope Ivvy Refiner Optional1 Diasyluv Cc: NLjega |
DuchessLily:well I guess Adam and eve would be in hell on the day of judgement, or what do you think? |
vizkiz:Well, I guess the underlined is the exact point the op was trying to make. and elaborate with mortal intelligenceMore intelligence? Can you elaborate your point here? |
Oladim001:Oladeegbu is even more confused than truthman2012, only that the latter is just the opposite of his moniker.. |
Princewell2012:perhaps he was walking around naked, because we are told that his burial clothes were seen in the tomb. Naked God.. Lol |
gimakon:You are joking right? ![]() |
Cute though, but na money kill am. |
Smh
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taiwo05:Thank you very much sire.... |
GSteve001:Okay! Thanks sire ![]() |
taiwo05:Sure |
littlemistress:Not yet. It should be around July ending or early August. |
taiwo05:Is there any deadline for Jamb submission of credentials? |
MrOlai:I was actually expecting you to counter his point and not tell us that he is a shia. Are those truly the rules of engagement as according to salafism? I am willing to learn. |
Liamm:And so in the pithy aphorism, you didn't attack me because you find fault in my signature-you know clearly there was not-but you attacked me because you suppose that I am an apc supporter... Lol. I know doofus like you. I will sure pass. ![]() |
Liamm:Goat! Since you are too blind to see that the word 'cogito....' in my siggy is embedded with a link to my diary where the meaning of cogito ergo sum was revealed, instead, you just pop up and started calling me all sort of names. Well, I pardon your stupidity. Would you now go back and click on the link to educate yourself? Yo-yo ![]() |
I said it. ![]() |
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