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malvisguy212:Wow! So how did you get to know that the sacrifice was to atone for the adamic sin? but when compear it with other related verse, we will understand it.So you cant find related verse in the OT and the NT written by the supposed eyewitness of Jesus, All you can provide is a book written by an anonymous author? Real shìt. Hebrews 11:4 By faith Abel offered God a better sacrifice than Cain did. By faith he was commended as a righteous man, when God spoke well of his offerings. And by faith he still speaks, even though he is dead.)Even if I am to accept these book written by an anonymous author, it still doesn't answer my question. Why did Yahweh accept the sacrifice of Abel and reject that of Cain? Did he command them to make any sacrifice in the first place? Can you tell us where Adam (the originator of this alleged sin) is? Heaven or hell? Notice here, the verse say "BY FAITH" he willingly offered sacrifice to God (Cain and abel) with the hope of God accepting it "God spoke well of his offerings"faith and prayer interwoven.Where did it say it was for the atonement of the Adamic sin? Let me ask you the same question I ask mizjanet.Maybe we can learn something from you. |
ayokunlei:And what about him? has he been offered admission? |
Demmzy15:A week after yours |
Demmzy15: When are you getting married? |
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Demmzy15: All those mumu film lool.. well, that was then sha. |
napoleonbaba:Chaii.. . Congratulations bro. |
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Demmzy15:Seriously bro. I got to know the Dracula guy for the first time on this thread: https://www.nairaland.com/1939984/how-muslims-killed-dracula#26986301 Rilwayne001: ![]() |
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malvisguy212:Provide the verse where it was said by yahweh that they should make sacrifice to atone their sin. It is for the atonement of sinAtonement for sin? According to which verse in that chapter of Genesis? As long as God accepted abel sacrifice , it indicate abel is in heaven.Why did Yahweh accept the sacrifice of Abel and reject that of Cain? Did he command them to make any sacrifice before Can you tell us where Adam (the originator of this alleged sin) is? Heaven or hell? It is clear that the offering was to be a substitutionary atonement, because we read in Hebrews 11:4, "By faith Abel offered God a better sacrifice than Cain did. When Abel came for worship, it was by faith that he brought his offering, the "fat portions from some of the first-born of his flock" ( Genesis 4:4).Lets read the context that chapter: Gen 4:2 Later she gave birth to his brother Abel. Now Abel kept flocks, and Cain worked the soil. Gen 4:3 In the course of time Cain brought some of the fruits of the soil as an offering to the LORD. Gen 4:4 But Abel brought fat portions from some of the firstborn of his flock. The LORD looked with favor on Abel and his offering, Gen 4:5 but on Cain and his offering he did not look with favor. So Cain was very angry, and his face was downcast. * Nowhere in the chapter above was it said that they should sacrifice * Nowhere was it said that they should atone for one imaginary sin. * Since he didn't ask them to make sacrifice nor specify on the sacrifice to make then why reject the sacrifice of one ? This further shows the favoritism of the bible god. |
sigiyaya:Now we hit that share nigga, this is reality. |
Emusan:Is that the answer to my question?? Perhaps you didn't read my post. |
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MizJanet:King David is even good, Abel that was killed by Cain in Genesis—is he in heaven or hell since he also according to Emusan inherited this original sin from Adam? |
truthman2012:Foolish boy, so I am now a satanists because your stupídity was exposed ? Can you see how you have failed woefully?Who failed here between myself and you when you couldn't address my posts? Readers are not fools like you, you know? You tried to lie to people that Gabriel's failed prayer was not in respect of Muhammad dying of poison with no evidence to prove it. You claim Muhammad died a matyr with no proof. You are just lying around. Don't you have any shame? It should by now be clear to everyone that Jubril is a demon whose power is very limited. Allah is satan who could not deliver his prophet in time of trouble. It takes satanic manipulation to be a muslim.Bla bla bla! Face front boy or simply go an play with your agemate, those little children in your street. |
truthman2012:[b] Seriously this is very stupíd of you. I asked this question first, Instead of you to answer me, you are redirecting it to me again.. Wtf is your problem? You brought this thing to the table by trying to force it on us claiming the narrations are of the same occasion when actually the 5th one is totally different. Now I will ask you for the last time as I have asked earlier on: " The books you quoted in the oP makes us understand (from 1-4) that anytime he felt sick, he would pray as well as the angel, and he would get healed. But in the in the event of the illness that killed him (i.e the 5th narration), he didnt bother to pray knowing fully well that death has come. If we are made to understand that he used to pray whenever he is ill in the first 4 narration, doesn't your brain tell you that since the 5th narration made us understand that he didnt pray for recovery - the preceeding ones are not of the same occasion with this last one since we are told he used to pray for recovery in them? If you are still arguing this, please kindly provide the rightful context to those narration. PleaSe I beg u. [/b] Again, don't cause diversion on this thread by talking about what happened to Jesus on the cross, it has nothing to do with spiritual healings. He was not sickYou don't tell me what to type or what not to type. You brought this up and I am applying the same logic you are using to the story of jesus according to the bible you believe in. The Jews mocked Jesus , and told him if he is the son of God, and king of Israel, and could save others then let him save himself, since Jesus died then this means he was a fake according to them! And using your logic this means the Jews are correct and Jesus is a fake, no? According to Mattew 23:34 the Jews had already killed other prophets, using your horrendous logic, those prophets whom the Jews killed were also all fakes, because I am sure the Jews wouldn’t have killed them if they believed they were true prophets now would they? Please don't go about saying trash and shying away from question posed at you. Address my post as I have been doing to yours. |
You guys will Wail for more than 30years.. Buhari till 2023 Fashola will take over - 2023-2031 Okorocha or Amaechi 2031-2039. Rilwayne001 2039-2047 Now tell me how WAILERS will stop wailing? You all will wail till the kingdom come |
sojikrown:Expulsion.. |
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And he is the Commander in Chief of Cowards. |
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parisbookaddict:Are you trying to derail the thread? |
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truthman2012:First of all, kindly provide an authoritative source that said he suffered for 4 years before his death. If Muhammad did not pray, it was because he didn't see allahh heal anyone before, hence he did pray to him for healing.Come out clean here, I don't get you. The books you quoted in the oP makes us understand (from 1-4) that anytime he felt sick, he would pray as well as the angel, and he would get healed. But in the in the event of the illness that killed him, he didnt bother to pray knowing fully well that death has come, no? If no, please provide the rightful context to the book you quoted. I asked this question in my last reply and you ignored it - shows how untruthful you are. That it took about 4 years before he died does not erase the fact that he died of the poison:He died a matyr. It was the poison that cut off his aorta and what was next? Death. Muhammad failed the woman's test for a prophet, she said if he was a true prophet, the poison would not harm him. But what happened? The poison actually harmed him.[b] From Bukhari's Hadith 4.394: Narrated Abu Huraira: When Khaibar was conquered, a roasted poisoned sheep was presented to the Prophet as a gift (by the Jews). The Prophet ordered, "Let all the Jews who have been here, be assembled before me." The Jews were collected and the Prophet said (to them), "I am going to ask you a question. Will you tell the truth?" They said, "Yes." The Prophet asked, "Who is your father?" They replied, "So-and-so." He said, "You have told a lie; your father is so-and-so." They said, "You are right." He said, "Will you now tell me the truth, if I ask you about something?" They replied, "Yes, O Abu Al-Qasim; and if we should tell a lie,you can realize our lie as you have done regarding our father." On that he asked, "Who are the people of the (Hell) Fire?" They said, "We shall remain in the (Hell) Fire for a short period, and after that you will replace us." The Prophet said, "You may be cursed and humiliated in it! By Allah, we shall never replace you in it." Then he asked, "Will you now tell me the truth if I ask you a question?" They said, "Yes, O Abu Al-Qasim." He asked, "Have you poisoned this sheep?" They said, "Yes." He asked, "What made you do so?" They said, "We wanted to know if you were a liar in which case we would get rid of you, and if you are a prophet then the poison would not harm you." Note when the prophets asks them why they poisoned the lamb, they reply by saying they did it to see if he was a true prophet, had he been a true prophet the poison would not HARM HIM. Now by this, the ews obviously meant if he was a prophet, then the poison would not kill him, since that was the effect it had on the person who ate from it, and as we see, the poison had no such effect on the prophet; the prophet survived from the poison and did not die from it. Thus under the Jews own criteria, the prophet Muhammad was proven to be a true prophet! Now quoting from Ibn Sa'd that you've been using: Ibn Sa'd page 249: Verily a Jewish woman presented poisoned (meat of) a she goat to the apostle of Allah. He took a piece form it, put it into his mouth, chewed it and threw it away. Then he said to the Companions: "Halt! Verily, its leg tells me that it is poisoned." Then he sent for the Jewish woman and asked her; "What induced you to do what you have done?" She replied, "I wanted to know if you are true; in that case Allah will surely inform you, and if you are a liar I shall relieve the people of you." Note the Jewish lady says if he is a true prophet then God would tell him, as we see, the prophet got a sign that the lamb was poisoned when he shouted: Halt! Verily, its leg tells me that it is poisoned That Muhammad survived for 4 years after the poison shouldn't be a thing of pride for muslims,And again, the poison was meant to have an immediate effect, not a long term effect where it would eventually kill you, the proof of this is when the prophets companion ate of the poisoned lamb he was killed by it. he might not have eaten as much as others who died instantly. If he didn't eat so much it could have the effect of slow poison.If this is actually true, then the Prophet (Sa) must have battled with the effect for 4years, isn't it? Now please provide an authoritative sources that clearly says that he battled with an effect of poison for 4years.. …A true prophet of God should live above poison. We found sucht an example in the Bible:" 2 Kings 4:38-41[b] How about other Prophets that were killed by the Jews? And Then I guess the Jews are also correct about Jesus, that he is an imposter, a false messiah, which is why he was killed and could not save himself, according to your logic, this makes those Jews correct, as the Bible says: Matthew 27:33-50 ... 36 And sitting down they watched him there; 37 And set up over his head his accusation written, THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS. 38 Then were there two thieves crucified with him, one on the right hand, and another on the left. 39 And they that passed by reviled him, wagging their heads, 40 And saying, Thou that destroyest the temple,and buildest it in three days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross. 41 Likewise also the chief priests mocking him, with the scribes and elders, said, 42 He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel , let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him. 43 He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God . 44 The thieves also, which were crucified with him, cast the same in his teeth. 45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour. 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, [size=15pt] Eli, Eli,lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? [/size] 47 Some of them that stood there, when they heard that, said, This man calleth for Elias. 48 And straightway one of them ran, and took a spunge, and filled it with vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink. 49 The rest said, Let be, let us see whether Elias will come to save him. 50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice , yielded up the ghost. So note these Jews came up to Jesus when he was on the cross, and they mocked him, and told him if he is the son of God, and king of Israel, and could save others then let him save himself, since Jesus died then this means he was a fake according to them! And using your logic this means the Jews are correct and Jesus is a fake, no? According to Mattew 23:34 the Jews had already killed other prophets, using your horrendous logic, those prophets whom the Jews killed were also all fakes, because I am sure the Jews wouldn’t have killed them if they believed they were true prophets now would they? [/b] |
Yeebos be taking Panadol for another man's headache. Morons everywhere |
Nawaoo.. Buhari dinning and clowning with Saraki (thief)..Smh. |
Night of a thousand laugh I guess The President and his Vice are known to be clowning around. Now Saraki finally joined them..WAILERS be like: "Government of Laughter' lmao. |
macof:My lust for PMB is not in anyway beclouding my reasoning hence the reason for my first post on this thread. Just wait and see its just 4 years or max 88 good years. no shaking. ...you think IBB and Abacha were thieves?Yes they were.. Oh things are about to get real,What things If you can't substantiate your assumptions, stop coming here to tell us about your imaginary things. Don't know what exactly your problem is. Obasanjo won't be able to back him up like he did during his PTF duties the recent act of these herdsmen is a direct result of the intoxicating effect of having a fulani bigot as president Also buhari owns a large herd of cattle and like every dumb fulani cow lover they operate under the same rules, buhari being a northern elder of fulani extraction has a big influence on these herdsmen He won't address this issue, dont be gullible, he has always protected them and will keep doing just that..These fulani people have always been in the news before Buhari assume presidency. So saying he is a big influence to their evil act is more of a lie. There are other pressing issue in front of the President than these rag taged herdsmen. The state Government is expected to deal with it, and when it reached a point that the state Government can't continue to deal with them, then the FG will be involved. Did you blame the Yobe and borno state government for boko haram attacks? When the chibok girls were kidnapped didn't they pass close to the state house?I am not blaming Ondo state government. I actually asked: What step he has taken so far to curb this menance? At least he should be the one to write the president if he need any help from him. Concerning that of Borno Government and boko haram, you need to see for yourself the actions taken by their state government: http://dailypost.ng/2014/05/28/borno-government-spent-n10bn-fighting-boko-haram-insurgency-deputy-governor/ http://dailypost.ng/2014/06/03/how-borno-govt-co-funds-fight-against-boko-haram-ssg/ What has Mimiko done to stop these fulanis? |
Demmzy15:Nothing like in-between... You are simply ajebutter.. shikena. Another topic please |
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