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SeverusSnape:
I'm a seeker; trying to finding his path, and if that path leads me to Islam, Fine.
It would interest you to know that I have a Bible(though I hardly open it, except an argument ensues between me and someone), Quran (English) and even Hindu texts on my tablet, I go through them from time to time. So any of them that I feel is okay for me, I'll let fate take its course.

Very good of you bro....very good.

Lemme start here.

I know very well that Hubal is not Allah,

Okay good.

Hubal came before Allah

Can you please provide your prove.

and there is proof that the Kaaba was made for the purposes of Hubal.

Woww, please provide this prove.

The Kaaba was a pre-Islamic structure, how could it have been constructed for something that came much later?

I already told you on the other thread that it was built by Abraham.

Do you have outside verification (besides the Koran) that the Kaaba was constructed Abraham and that it was constructed for the benefit of Allah?

David made mention people performing pilgrimage as they pass through the valley of bakkah and to say that this is not the valley of bakkah of the Quran where pilgrimage is performed is really to career out of the common sense interpretation here, history knows of no other valley of bakkah which is associated with pilgrimage other than the one in Arabia.

Is there any historical evidence as to the existence of 'Abraham'?

And this is my problem with atheist.

SeverusSnape:
None sir, yours sincerely is Irreligious or better still an agnostic.

Lols. but why don't you try Islam?

Abuamam:
More outside verification and evidence than 'Jesus was god and he died for your sins', but you have no problem believing THAT.

He is an atheist.

mmsen:
I know very well that Hubal is not Allah, Hubal came before Allah and there is proof that the Kaaba was made for the purposes of Hubal. The Kaaba was a pre-Islamic structure, how could it have been constructed for something that came much later?Do you have outside verification (besides the Koran) that the Kaaba was constructed Abraham and that it was constructed for the benefit of Allah?Is there any historical evidence as to the existence of 'Abraham'?

Can you create a new thread for this?, it doesn't make sense to derail this thread.

Please open a new thread now, then invite my moniker.

SeverusSnape:
Damn!...nice thread, I've been going through it all the while, I know of all these...I read them when I was a Christian, And none of the Christians in that thread gave a tangible answer, though Tallesty tried.
Hmmmmm.... Those israelites wicked o

Well, thats even little compared to other atrocities perpetrated in the bible.

So what religion do you now practice?

mmsen:
Why do Nigerian Muslims go on pilgrimages?

Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 97:
In it are Signs Manifest; (for example), the Station of Abraham; whoever enters it attains security; Pilgrimage thereto is a duty men owe to Allah,- those who can afford the journey; but if any deny faith, Allah stands not in need of any of His creatures.

Surah Al-Hajj, Verse 27:
"And proclaim the Pilgrimage among men: they will come to thee on foot and (mounted) on every kind of camel, lean on account of journeys through deep and distant mountain highways;

Was the Kaaba not constructed as a pagan icon?

It was constructed by Abraham and his son Ismael as a place of worship for Allah, It was after their time that the Paganist took over it as shrine for their gods. Then the prophet (SA) came and cleanse it by making the actual reason why it was built by Abraham and son stand.

Why are Muslims so eager to hand over their money to people in the Middle East?

Is that what your brain interprete it to be?

Hubal (Arabic: هبل‎) was a god worshipped in pre-Islamic Arabia, notably at the Kaaba in Mecca. His idol was a human figure, believed to control acts of divination, which was in the form of tossing arrows before the statue. The direction in which the arrows pointed answered questions asked of the idol

The Quraysh had several idols in and around the Kabah. The greatest of them was Hubal.

Allah is not Hubal.

Mynd44:
The title "Eleko,of Lagos" was changed to "Oba of Lagos" when the capital was moved to Abuja. That does not mean the person wearing the crown changes but his duties grew and he became the Traditional ruler of the state

Okay

SeverusSnape:
Egbon Rilwayne001, Can you see one of the reasons I detest religion?.. @ Bolded

I'll implore you to read this thread https://www.nairaland.com/2050635/bible-god-share-virgins-other

The buybull god is a blood thirsty monster.

Because they are jealous of muslims and they had to copy them by all means.

Mynd44:
I went further to explain that

"The Eleko's territory is limited to Lagos Island and environs but that changed when the constitution made the crown the head of all traditional crowns in Lagos state. At this point, the Oba of Lagos was coined as the Oba of Lagos which is the Oba of Lagos State not just Lagos Island like the Eleko"

Okay, but what do you mean in the below comment?

Mynd44:
http://www.lagosstate.gov.ng/pagelinks.php?p=8
Oh the title changed to Oba when the Capital of Nigeria was moved to Abuja

Awon omo irankira

Mynd44:
Wrong. The Eleko of Eko is different from the Oba of Lagos but in a way similar. The difference is the control they have.

The Eleko's territory is limited to Lagos Island and environs but that changed when the constitution made the crown the head of all traditional crowns in Lagos state. At this point, the Oba of Lagos was coined as the Oba of Lagos is the Oba of Lagos State not just Lagos Island like the Eleko

Are you trying to tell us that the "Eleko of Eko" is a different from "Oba of Lagos" in person?

SeverusSnape:
Its the truth...
I'll tell you, Anytime I open a thread on it, I'll let you and others know...

All right

So you'll soon be appointed? ... Why don't we have moderators election on NL

only Seun can answer that

Well, If you're appointed, Don't dare ban me o.

Only if you don't break any rule.
Unlike other mods, I'll make sure I enforce those 21rules.

Mynd44:
http://www.lagosstate.gov.ng/pagelinks.php?p=8

Oh the title changed to Oba when the Capital of Nigeria was moved to Abuja

Now you know.

Alfamann:
Maybe those ones deserve some respect but the most recent calling himself ewu-olu is a shame to mankind.

Poo

SeverusSnape:
Bros na lie abeg...
I'm not a bigot...

Liar

I denounced religion because of many reasons, we'll talk about that in the religion section.

Woww, I'll like to know your reason(s).
You can open a thread, or do you want me to do that?

Are you a mod... Or are you impersonating Maclatunji

I'm about to be appointed as one

SeverusSnape:
I want to use this medium to thank the owner of this forum and the moderators for their timely intervention in updating that rule two to include Tribe.

You are one of those tribal bigot, thank God this rule will curtail your attitude.

I thought of denouncing my tribe just like I did with religion;

I thought as much, why did you denounce your religion?

Hopefully, Everything will be okay now.
Once more, thanks to Seun and his law makers.

We the mods and law makers appreciate your patriotism

KIRIJI:
Oba Esugbayi Eleko 1901 - 1925

Nice one bro.

SirShymexx:
What is difference between Eleko of Eko and Oba of Lagos?

Same

buybull

The eleko of eko is not a ceremonial oba, contrary to what some ignoramus were spreading aroun.

Proudly yoruba

Empiree:
rilwayne001, your brother don messed up here. Come see. God is not one according to him. Then he got confused all over.

the guy didn't just shot himself in the leg, he bombed himself..Lwkm

So sad that my battery is down, I would've love to see his further gunshot.

Trinitarians are one godddamn confusionist, that's why you see him confused. Trust me he will be back with a load of gabbage as usual, and then the olodo girl called ifeann will come in and call him (malvis) Mr. Intelligent.

Awóñ Ópóñú Gbógbó.

Awón omô alè.

May thunder fire you all
Do your worst.

Thank God.

But saraki again

All is well...APC all the way

Of course, infact that's what I hope for.

This result get k leg though

ThanK you IMO.

APC all the way

shachris:
yep. the result for ezinihite has been recalulated. PDP lead there with just 20k votes against the previous 40k plus

Are they done with it?

shachris:
the difference is now more than 70k in favour of rochas. lets see how they upturn that with just one lga to go.

Are you sure?