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3nim:
Yes, I also believe that it depends.. on you maybe,..Since there's no reward or consequence, you'd only serve God and do his will to the point where it crosses yours.
You would basically be doing what "you" think is right.

So about the joy and happiness and benefits of serving God without a reward, I don't really see much in that direction.

It's the joy, happiness and benefits of being a good person morally and being at peace with yourself for that, having people love you back for the love you show to them, the love you willingly want to show after no form of external influence Like the Bible passages, which talk about love... therefore not instructed love or commanded love.

Also, you could actually still be at peace with yourself for not loving someone, who you really don't like. I think, it's a default human setting- you can't like what you dislike.
And you disliking a person wouldn't mean you would be able to kill that person. Just to put that argument down before it arises. Without the Bible even, murder would still be a crime in societies with good moral values.

So Malice is made to sound like a terrible word.. I've seen grudges being depicted as heavy rocks on a person's back in a religious book. In reality, I don't like someone's personality and I choose not to talk to that person. That doesn't even lay as much as feather's weight on my back. It could even do me more good than evil.

PastorAIO:
What a difference a little bit of diligence can make!

PastorAIO:
He also know those who are not his followers.

sonofluc1fer:
Not my fault the only posts you can comprehend is christian. You know of no other world, unable to comprehend a godless world. That's why all your friends are Christian. You only speak Bible,not English. Lol.

Have fun, my man. Be a good Christian..i hope this board doesn't turn you into a vile demon like that paedo and his side-witch. Ill be watching.

3nim:
No not my style to fabricate things.
It's my style of summarising things.
I can understand how you wouldn't like my summaries.

If there were no consequence or reward for serving God, would you do it? If yes, why?

butterflyl1on:
He never stated fear in his statement. That would be him believing because he has a choice and not one you wish him to have based on your assumptions of his choice.

superhumanist:
Hope and faith are two different things.

3nim:
And that would be you believing for the fear of hell or eternal punishment.

3nim:
In summary, you can say that false hope is better than no hope.

sonofluc1fer:
Interesting. Id like to meet these people you speak about.


Really? Is this just you or are you speaking out your ass as usual?



Pops and Momc. Critical ingredients.


You must be talking about atheists . Only depressed directionless souls will give up this wonderful world for one of fantasy that comes after death. I can think of nothing more depressing.


Sending you an e-hug.

sonofluc1fer:
Others follow the shadow they believe is God.

PastorAIO:
Euarchy is the belief that there is a pure and natural order to the universe and that the best way to live is to conform to this order.

It's name comes from the word Eu in Greek which means True and Pure. Archy is also from Greek meaning order or rule.

Mon-archy. Rule by one person.

Anarchy. No order at all.

Patriarchy. Order by men, fathers.

Matriarchy. Rule by woman.

Euarchy. True Order.

PastorAIO:
You want me to baptise it. Okay.

I call it Euarchy. I am a Euarchist.

PastorAIO:
I'm not being explicit? What more do you need?

Emmanystone:
The only thing is, most of the monikers who claimed atheism who were here then insulting God, but were in that thread are no longer here. Maybe they left Nairaland or changed monikers.

PastorAIO:
Always look on the bright side of life. Half full, never half empty.

Think... 'with ur knowledge of d Bible, I just feel u will be a very good tool for' theists who would like to know about christianity better.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQzk9Qo

PastorAIO:
Why relief? You sound like your peace of mind rests on gathering consensus on the existence of God. I hope it's not that your beliefs have been shaken by the overwhelming number of atheists on this forum.

Perhaps you need to examine yourself and your beliefs a little closer.

Emmanystone:
Oh, you found the thread? Thank you.

Now everyone can see what i said.


@Ronpet777 here is the link to the thread

OkCornel:
I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE ON THIS THREAD IS MATURE ENOUGH TO PASS ACROSS THEIR MESSAGE WITHOUT INSULTS...

PLEASE A GENTLE REMINDER ONCE AGAIN...

OkCornel:
I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE ON THIS THREAD IS MATURE ENOUGH TO PASS ACROSS THEIR MESSAGE WITHOUT INSULTS...

PLEASE A GENTLE REMINDER ONCE AGAIN...

Emmanystone:
Truth is, Possessed children of Native doctors, occult men, sorcerers, marine worshippers are here. Most of them are pretending to be atheist.
From henceforth, put your eyes down and mark the most foul mouthed ones, when you find a satanic thread or a homoxeual thread, observe their commenta.

These kids are mostly gay, lesbians, possessed by demons. Seriouly.

I wish i can dig up an old Satanic thread which lasted for so long here. The guy took the thread down and changed his moniker. He is still here but with a different moniker.

Once, i decided to go in there to read the minds of satanists, only for me to see the very monikers who were claiming atheism asking questions on how they could do this or that to get what.

There are not atheists, they are little agents in satans hands, and it's the demons in them talking.


There's one thing i picked out of that thread. Most of them kept complaining of an interference by another spirit close to their breakthrough of their personal demon coming to them. They were told that the interfering spirit was the enemy YHWH, (The Holy Spirit). He said, YHWH keeps interfering to pull the person away from his demon.

The guy said for them to rid themselves of the Holy Spirit, they'd have to blaspheme the 'enemy'Jehovah severely, that is the only way they can distance themselves from his interference then their personal deamon (they dont call it demon, but deamon)will come to them.

So, i now know why they blaspheme YHWH this much.

We see Sokubus and incubus as dangerous sex demons, but these guys are taught how to invoke them for gratifying sex experiences. That's why you see the atheists (so called) denying their existence or calling it wet dreams. They all know what they are doing.

Satan wants to remain hidden, but we know him.

Emmanystone:
He is not a Christian bros. He is one of those sorcerers pretending to be Christians. Accusing God for the evils humans commit.
Can a Christian call Yahweh Yahoo? Can a Christian call Jesus Lucifer because Lucifer was referred to as the morning star before his fall, and Jesus is called the Bright and the Morning Star?

Read his posts. The guy is everywhere opposing Christians and every Christian doctrine. I don't care for him biko. Allah is not YHWH. It's not about the Title god, it's about their ways and works.

I decided to ignore him, because if i keep on, that might just turn out like a display of pride to win an argument.

Let him rant.

Satan has been trying to be God from Adam, he can't be.

purem:
But instead of you to modify you're busy advertising your illiteracy all through the thread

Emmanystone:
My little sister is growing up. Make una no spoil my sister o. Na dis generation i use get hope.

When i came in newly to NL, i was almost crying every day. Then i ignorantly allowed them to rule me by always making me angry and fighting with words i never imagined i could speak out. Gradually, i overcame that.
Now, i just laugh and pass. When we are done here, satan shall receive his Just Recompense of reward.

purem:
I think I told you about my headache while reading your shiits My headache necessitate's the need to quote you

But instead of you to modify you're busy advertising your illiteracy all through the thread



It's more than a train speed especially when you forgot to make use of your brain each time your making an unreasonable and flawed assertions



Sir I don't argue am only here to learn

You could see that on my signature

PastorAIO:
I have argue 'in favour' of atheists many many times. That is because they presented solid points with back up references etc, while on the other hand, all the religionist folks could do is invent fables, and gnash their teeth and issue threats and curses at their discussants. It's a very poor look for the 'christians'. A very very poor look.

Someone who believes he is on the side of the truth does not invent fables on the go as he is having a discussion.

I have discussed with christians here on nairaland where I would say that Jewishness is passed on through the mother to the children, so if your father is jewish yet your mother is not then you cannot call yourself a jew. Only someone whose mother is jewish can be considered a jew (unless they convert, of course).
I couldn't believe her response. Telling me how is that possible. Asking me whether I can claim my mother's tribe over my father's or some such nonsense. I realised that what a lot of these people are actually doing is taking the tribal beliefs and culture of whatever village they come from in Nigeria and superimposing that over christianity and Judaism.

I realised that actually it is impossible for a lot of my people to practice christianity as it is taught today. Why? well, for a start, modern day christianity required regular reading of the bible and an understanding of the context of what they are reading. In other words it requires a considerable amount of study in order to know what it is that you are following. Unfortunately my people are not so inclined to that degree of studying, even just reading casually is too hard for them.
Next, They would need a considerable amount of knowledge of a foreign culture, a culture that is so far removed from them, not just geographically but also historically. It would require an understand of Jewish culture from 2000 years ago. My people don't have this knowledge and are not inclined to go and find out.


Christianity is just a vehicle for people to project their fantasies, mostly hateful and deluded, unto the world. It is not really a religion in the way that I understand the word.

Another instance of inventing fables on the go, Is it not in front of you that Emmanystone stated that Angel Gabriel must announce his name if he appears to humans? where did that law come from?
Yet if you say something as obvious and basic as the fact that James is a derivation of Jacob, or Jesus and Joshua are the same name, they will start to shout. It's obvious that they don't know the cultures from which their religion come and subsequently their knowledge of the religion is half baked.

Yet another instance came to my awareness while discussing tithes. Someone argued that Tithes were agricultural products then because in those days the only profession was Farming. Thankfully she accepted when I showed her many passages from the old testament talking about various other professionals.



So what have I outgrown into?

What I believe is a bit encapsulated in this post:

from here: https://www.nairaland.com/335826/pastor-aio-come-teach-us#4712314

purem:
Your English is giving me headache

Who was your English teacher sef

ZirdoRoray:
Mankind was created by a Universal Male God who encourages, war, rape, blood sacrifice, violence, injustice, absurdity and contradictions. He used the jews to kill almost everyone in the Bible and won't hesitate to watch the whole world burn in the lake of fire forever because they did not believe in him. He has the power to end suffering but he keeps on watching because it pleases him and will do as he pleases. It really takes a lot of faith to believe that. Isn't God Wonderful?

On a more humane/logical level, there are two main contending school of thoughts for the existence of humanity.
1. That of evolution. Don't forget the earth is 4.6 billion years old. So that's quite a long time for life to form and a specie to evolve.

2. Alot of Texts written by scholars supports the concept of the
creation of humanity by extra-terrestrials through genetic
engineering.
Humanity was created by extra-terrestrials who needed slave
laborers in the mines. By taking the ovum from a Cro-
Magnon primate and using artificial insemination with a
sperm from one of the Nephilim, we were created. We did not
evolve naturally, as opposed to animals who have overall
better health and immunity. Ancient civilizations were more
advanced than we think. Take the pyramids of Giza as an
example, even present day scientists have difficulty in fully
understanding the science behind the buildings. It is points
to highly advanced Extraterrestrials as the originator of such.
Don't forget there are such pyramids all over the world and
weird enough they all points to the constellation of orion in
the sky. The entire world have always been paganistic and
had similar beliefs of been created by advanced
Extraterrestrials they called Gods. They also state these
Gods taught them civilization.
Most of these got lost in endless wars and global
catastrophes.

purem:
Your English is giving me headache

Who was your English teacher sef

sonofluc1fer:
childish, true. Not mature like that snake one you believe in. the one with rib women and talking snake.. and a god that three nails killed.

yet, i am childish. . I thought you wanted to hear how the universe came about..