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Emmanystone:
I really have to thank YHWH for delivering my mouth, if not enh, i for call you mumudeen.

Abeg how did you know all these about Seun? It makes sense for you to believe all this about Seun, but you call me lame for believing the Bible. Pls permit me to ask you this, Are you sick?

Are you high of flakka? You believe Moderators but doubt prophets.

U can be very wicked u knw. Pls temper judgement with mercy.

butterflyl1on:
Where would you even find a drop of that for you? The erosion of psychosis has created deep gullies that divert all reason from where it should get to for you.

Answer my questions girl.

U can run but u can't hide.

I tot we were having a little discussion.

I gladly take a bow and sign out. Since I find no reasonable atheist here who I dare to challenge my belief in God by providing an alternative explanation for life. Tell us how d world came to be, tell us d essence of life and wot hope we hv. Offer us a solution. Since there is none, and u wud rather argue and offer NOTHING, u r all dimwits and losers.

tintingz:


Lol, he does great things somewhere in the ancient middle-east in a fairy book.

Oh fine!That is fairy tale. So Wot then do u believe?How did d world come to be? Pls kindly give us an elaborate explanation for existence since u don't believe in ours.

sonofluc1fer:
Circle.

Kindly explain Wot u mean by circle.

Pls stop giving this guy where to hide by arguing with him. He is avoiding me like plague. Let me face him, He is looking for alibi to escape.

sonofluc1fer:
Yawn. Wanna keep going round in circles? Or are you too dumb to comprehend simple statements?

Comprehend Wot Sir?... Pls speak clearly not in rhetorics. Maybe u need some of ur friends to help u out

sonofluc1fer:
It was? Really? I thought you gave your life to him back. And live in honor of his memory and legacy. Are you not a Slave to Christ?

Talk to me now. Stop running away from me, I don't bite. Just answer my questions sir.

sonofluc1fer:
He is a God that does great things.

OK sir, but I tot we were still discussing and u r yet to answer my questions sir. Pls, now that u obviously knw better. Pls tell us how d world came to be, tell us wot to hope for. Tell us something better than d fact that accident happened and we all suddenly came to be, that by accident we will all go. Tell us something better than d fact that we r useless as humans and mistake of science. Pls talk to us, we r waiting.

Emmanystone:
Welcome to Niaraland where stupidity is celebrated.

Thanks jare sis....I see now and I knw, but won't let them infect me.

sonofluc1fer:
You seek a lie. I offer none. If that's running away, I'm gladly running away. You mad fellows who see a God where none exists should have your heads checked. But alas, how can the heads be checked? 2018 with an android in their hand and you still believe in a God that wrote on stone. And you're sane? Lol.

Hahahahahahahaha! Cry baby, u can throw insults in to cover up, I don't mind. Pls don't tell me Wot I bliv, I knw it already, just tell me Wot u believe. Hahahahahahahaha!

butterflyl1on:
Who is this guy? My Good God. Your name should be called shredder

You slam dunked this post in style and delivered majestically.

Preach brother Preach!!!

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I hv studied these guys. All they do is put u in a position where u hv to defend. Dont let them. They always want to question while offering nothing to substitute belief. They r all weaklings hiding under the cloak of logic. Tell them to offer something and they tremble all over. They r simply bunch of losers who wish to distract pple by diverting ur attention away from their crumbling existence.

butterflyl1on:
And this is the part where you run away while crying like a girl. Avoid mice while running. Remember they tend to make you shreak.

Poor Sod!

It's unfair bro.... pls be a bit nice with him. He is just a kid.

sonofluc1fer:
There are lots of alternative thought processes, whether theist or atheist. As for better, that's your choice not mine. Don't just go about claiming your position is the ultimate one. If you still don't get this point, then I can offer you no further help.

Now u r running, with ur tail between ur legs. Ur teachers shld be ashamed of u bro.. A sensible person disproves an idea just to offer a better one. Here u r not being able to offer anything. Hmmmmmm! How do u feel right now? U hv nothing to defend, no good news to propagate to mankind than to antagonize. U knw Wot u r? LOSER... U will lose here on earth,as family and friends see u as strange thoughtless ungrateful beings and over there in afterlife, even worse. So Wot do u preach?
My brother u need an honest sober reflection .

Emmanystone:
You don see am nau.

I see am o my sister. Bunch of thoughtless clowns.

sonofluc1fer:
Mr. Trumpet, if you don't like my own, talk your own...


Of course, no problem. But when the society I live in is filled with a majority of your kind, I think I'm justified to ask legitimate questions about your beliefs. Your beliefs will be respected if you kept them personal.


Nice attempt to derail though. I don't care about your beliefs, just let the rest of us hear word. Is that too much to ask?


BELIEVE being the ultimate word.

I believe I was a squirrel in my former life. But I was a big squirrel, huge like a dinosaur, my nickname was Squirrelsaur.

As defender of the Universe, I saved the world from 374 earthquakes and 732 drone attacks from the forces of Mars. Belief is a vehicle that can carry a man wherver he wishes.

What's dangerous is when those beliefs are completely ruptured from objective reality - when Israel seems closer to you than Gambia, when Abraham, Isaac and Jacob become your ancestors, when you believe a Jewish carpenter died for sins you never committed.

That, my friend, is no longer a belief system, but a tragedy.

And that's why I drink panadol for your headache. Cos you are my headache.



Maybe it is you that is myopic. Maybe it's who's been blinded by the Cross. Maybe it is you who's trapped in a box, your reason crushed under the Cross.

God doesn't exist glaringly. The sun does. Nature does. You do. You're human, nothing more nothing less. Just a piece of meat animated for a short time. It's our story.



God is not merciful, he's just powerless. If he had powers, y'all Christians won't need to cry to mods for protection on these boards.

Thank u so much sir. Can u pls offer us an alternative thought process?? Can u offer us something better??
Something to motivate us, something to aspire for in life and after. Something to inspire hope unto mankind. Pls don't shy away from this.
We are all earnestly waiting. Be free to be generous with explanations and analysis. We want hope. We are eager.

dalaman:
Will you keep quiet. According to the mythical tale we are told that God loves humans that he even had himself killed so that he will be in a personal relationship with them. Yet you are the ones telling us about this God abi? Well done. Keep wallowing in your stupid delusions.

Hahahhahahahahaha! And u Mr dalaman, we r offering u a huge platform to sell ur product. Wot exactly r u bringing to d table? Wot exactly r u offering? At least we hv hope that there is an afterlife and better life after this for God's followers. Pls, wot does ur atheism offer mankind? Apart from making us believe that we r no better than a bed bug that lives today and die off tomorrow with no purpose or like a garden lily that grows in d morning and fade off at night. Or that we must all knw that NOTHING created SOMETHING.
Pls Wot more do u offer? The only hope an atheist hold on to is the fact that he/she can antagonize normal humans here and die off like garden weed. Wot a pity.
Shame on u. Tell us now Wot we stand to gain From ur UNBELIEF!!!
Pls kindly do. We r all waiting.

[quote author=sonofluc1fer

Death is no proof God exists. It only proves what we all are. Different manifestations of life that will be here for a while. That's the fate that unites the living. We will all die. You too. To spend this life wishing for another infinite one is not only infinitely foolish, it's greedy, thoughtless and vain.

You, sire, are a complete retard.[/quote]And u sir, lack any coherence. Y r u taken pills for someone else's headache? We believe in life after death, u don't, then no problem. We believe in almighty God, judge of all, u don't, no problem. To u, u r not so different from a garden lily that grows in d morning and die off at night without any further purpose, great, we don't. We believe there is a purpose we were sent down because life is a stage with performers who will leave d stage one day to be appraised by d film maker based on their roles. We see a sample from how we transcend our bodies when we dream and live in d dream till we return after we awake. Only dimwits won't reason and see that we were all sent here and wud wake up somewhere else after death. U r all so myopic that u fail to reason out of the box that ur logics hv sealed u. God exists so glaringly, we hv no doubt whatsoever, we feel both sorry and amazed by how degraded and deteriorated ur minds hv been
reduced to. God! U r so merciful. It's just that to God, u guy r there as useful pawns to test and question d reasoning of REAL humans

dalaman:
When will you allow him to speak up for himself and stop making things up on his behalf? Is he not alive again? Why then are you the one telling people about his works? So Yahweh created the universe and it is a total failure like you that is telling people about it abi? Keep wallowing is your stupid and ridiculous delusion.

U guys r shockingly bizarre. Even the pagans r shocked that ur kinds exist. The fact that u sleep and lose control of urself shld already make u knw that there is life after death. D fact that when u wake up it's almost as though u died and resurrected points to d whole new world u wud wake up to after death where all ur questions will be answered. All atheists r just stubbornly foolish and ungrateful beings. U were talking abt spiritual things being confusing in d other post. Are u really a human? Even if u doubt God, haven't u seen how devil punish pple in d spiritual? If u doubt God do u also doubt d devil? Do u really Live in Africa ?Just as witches and wizards operate outside d physical and we all knw abt them in Africa is how God operates. D devil won't come to u because u demand to see him, but u will know him when u over step ur boundaries. Only fools believe d things they see alone. I am very sure u also doubt water bodies and demons. U r all living-dead creatures. I wonder y an African will be an atheist when he actually shares d continent with spirits. U r all dumb and highly ignorant folks.

dalaman:
So your God is so weak that it's only at death people will know that he exist abi? When alive it can only rely on empty fools like you to be talking on its behalf, when people die that's when it will come out abi? Just listen to how you sound and cry at your stupidity.

Indeed Nairaland is a home for thoughtless shallow folks. U can explain Seun to us because u were not created by him. Seun's creation cannot demand explanation from him unless he wishes to. No matter how curious u r, u can never force a response from God. He only shows himself to receptive hrts not stony ones who wud see him and even doubt their very eyes. U r too small to demand what u r demanding. U r infinitesimal.

butterflyl1on:
Keep advertising your willful ignorance.

You think everyone is poor and poorly connected like yourself.

Those that personally know God through Jesus and the given Holy spirit will just be looking at you and laughing at your idiocy.



Using logic is not hard. God exists. We see Him through his spirit.

Only God creates a universe. No other living thing can. So we know that God created it.

Gods imprint can be seen in all of nature. God has even held conversations with His children about his word and creation.


How many universes do we know? God is not a physical being to be seen but his works are evident. We know how the universe was created. Dont you know how universes are created? No? You are a mere human being so cannot see God.


Some people just want to be daft

This is d reply of the year! Wow... much respect bro.

Tozara:
Where did this retãrded piece of shiit come out from? Your hollow head oozes stupidity more than your diseased pussy secretes nasty worms.

Make sure you quote this post and after reading and replying it, turn around to tell me that I don't exist too. Cretinous fucktãrd.

I am sure this guy will feel he has spoken o.

frank317:
You equated them with ur almighty God when u said u were all worshiping the same God. You said the source is the same but the channel was different.

I never did. I don't knw Wot vaxx is worshipping. D issue was with Muslim God which I equated with almighty God. And I hv good reasons to. Deep studies hv proven otherwise however it is very subjective. I read many articles and realised that d word Allah predates Islam itself. Studies show that all Arab Christians used d word Allah for d almighty God. It was not out of place to say we serve d same Allah ,except that he was with a completely different msg for his prophet Mohammad and his pple.

hopefulLandlord:
That's an amazing way to dodge the two direct simple questions I gave but I understand red herrings can be a refuge for some

U always ask questions.That is all u do while offering NOTHING! NOTHING!! NOTHING!!! Isn't it monotonous to u? God, it is no longer interesting to engage in any conversation with u guys.
Start up a conversation when u have something meaningful to offer the world than a crazy assertion that nothing made something.

hopefulLandlord:
How is evolution not compatible with theism?

Even if evolution is falsified this very minute, how does it prove the bible to be true?

you guys just support anything so long its coming from "one of us" even when you know that thing is nonsense

U guys hv been duly exposed here to be weaklings. I regret arguing with u guys because at d end of the day, U've got nothing to offer.
U r just baskets full of gigantic holes.

vaxx:
''Atheism is like a fake currency,it is good on the surface but it has no real value'' vaxx

Much respect bro.... That is Wot I call shocker punch! May u walk without stumbling...

O boy ,this thing long o

frank317:
U are talking to someone who believes that yahweh is also amadioha

That's a very false accusation.I had a misconception abt Allah which is a very general believe. Amadiohia is a small god in d class of Sango, Oya and d likes. I never equated them with God almighty.

frank317:
good, now u understand what I mean when I said what i said in the quote below....

Hahahahaha! U r a clown.

Emmanystone:
Good morning brother. Pls do your research so that you won't worship a demon masquerading as YHWH.

There are so many Islamic claims that when scrutinize, will fall flat.

This is what Piqued me off about Islam. THE CHARACTER ANGEL GABRIEL.

The Bible tells us that YHWH made a promise to send a SEED to the world. Over time, He went on reminding His Prophets about the Promised SEED, many Prophets prophesied Jesus, Isaiah even called him by name Immanuel. Isaiah mentioned a Virgin having the SEED. Different prophets told about the manner of his death.

Angel Gabriel and Michael are the Angels watching over the Nation of Israel according to Daniel 10:20-21

Gabriel takes messages to the Israelites while Michael is their Warrior and defender in times of trouble.

He said, “Do you know why I came to you? It is to reveal to you what is written in the Book of Truth. Now I have to go back and fight the guardian angel of Persia. After that the guardian angel of Greece will appear. There is no one to help me except Michael, Israel's guardian angel
This tells us that Michael and Gabriel are in charge of Israel.

The Angels or Princes (Demons) in charge of the Kingdom of Persia and Greece were not called by names. With this, we know that every nation has either Angels or Demons in the Celestial realm ruling and determining what happens there.

This Gabriel was the same one who went to all the Jewish Prophets with the message about the Messiah. And, pls NOTE, Gabriel never had any body contact with anyone he talked with. He never threatened anyone he talked to. Whenever he appeared and the person he came for bcomes afraid, he usually settles the fear, by saying, 'Fear not, i am Gabriel who stands in the presence of God, and i have come to give you His message'

We saw that till when Jesus was born. Gabriel by himself named Jesus. He by Himself gave the mission statement of Jesus. And so it was that the SEED was born. Finished His mission and left. Then, 600yrs later, [b]this same Gabriel was sent by the same God(?) to a
man, from Arab, a totally different tribe from which He had picked His Prophets from with a different message, saying JESUS WAS NOT THE SON OF GOD, BUT A SLAVE OF ALLAH?

And, the gentle Gabriel who usually puts people at peace before giving his messages, all of a sudden changed his method and made to forcefully strangulate muhammed, forcing him to recite allah ahkubaru or die.

That entity tortured muhammed to submission. Three times it happened. Muhammed knew something was wrong with him, because anytime the entity came, he becomes like a possessed man. He made to commit auicide before his wife Kadijat saved him by taking him to a soothsayer called Waraqa who pretended to be a Catholic convert.

Pls, pick your Bible and study Angel Gabriel and study the Jibril of Islam, if you have no questions like i did, then, your case is different.

My whole point is this, the same YHWH can not send the Messenger with two different Messages to two different people.

He couldn't have told the Jews who Jesus is, and told Arabs a different thing.

And, pls study muhamed as a prophet, and study the lives of the prophets of the Bible if questions dosn't rise in your heart then...

What am i saying? Jibril is was not Gabriel. Isa is not Jesus, YHWH is not Allah. Muhammed was not sent by YHWH.

Satan masquerades as an angel of light knowing, if he doesn't, no one will follow him.

U have made ur point so very clearly and I hv read extensively abt it and I am even still doing more research cos I find this illumination so fascinating.
In all humility I can assure you that I submit to being wrong abt Yahweh our God and their own Allah. I see the difference with every study I make. I went tru many books and allusions were made to d Quran for confirmation. I am still in shock from the things I hv read abt Mohammad and his msg and his God.

Emmanystone:
You are still talking about Channels. How many Channels did YHWH used to reach men in OT? And pls lets call the God we are refering to by name. Every deity is an almigbty to them who worships him or it.

No, not everyone had the Holy Spirit then. Only a select few. And pls not, His method were the same with all the vessels He used in the OT. He didn't change is Method.

If you leave the message giver and dwell on the message alone, you'd be deceived. Question is who is allah? Have you researched allah?

I asked you questions you didn't answer, if you had answered, i'd know how to go about this.

Before Muhammad was born, his grandfather Al Mutallab served Allah as his Chief priest. He had a son whom he called Abdullah. He dedicated him to the serve of allah. Abdullah had muhammed.
Now, who was Allah who Al Mutallab and Abdullah worshipped? Was he the God of Abraham? No. How do i know? because there were so many Jews in those days leaving together in the Arabic Peninsulas serving and Worshopping YHWH while Abudullah worshipped his Allah in his way. He never forced anyone to worship Allah with him.

Allah was one of the 350gods Arabs worshipped.
Allah was a Moon god called Hubal. He had three daughters Allat, Mallat and Uzza. One of his daughters Allat the fourite was believed to have descended from a star, hence the Cresent Moon and the Star as Islamic symbol. And why they watch the moon before Ramadan.

If the Abrahamic God was the same wirh the Arabic Allah, why didn't they worship in the same Temples before Muhammed was born?

And, Guru Maharaji and his people don't serve a supreme being. They don't rely on any mesaage from any supreme being. They are New Agers, hence they believe that they themselves are gods. So, remove them.

Where was His source? Who gave him the message? Do you believe YHWH gave him those messages? Pls i need your answer here.


How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Isaiah:14:12

For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Isaiah:14:13

Beloved, you need to know your God so that you can be strong and do exploits.

When satan challenged God in that vers 13, that he also shall sit and be worshipped as God, who do you think he was going to get the worship from? Fellow Angels albeit fallen? No, Angels don't worship each other. He meant humans. If he was going to be worshipped, he must pretend to be God. He must make men believe he indeed is God, that's the only way he will be worshipped. And satan set up his own religion made it look like the religion of YHWH.

Guy. Open your eyes.

Muslims claim to be servants of God while Christians are legitimate children.

Are they? because they claim that doesn't make it so.

We really need to talk about this issue.

Muslims don't worahip the same God with the Jews.

Wow wow! I hv never really sought for knowledge abt Allah. Will do my research but I feel really schooled abt it by u. Thanks a million

Emmanystone:
What do you mean by Channels and instructions pls?

I mean there is God almighty the source. And there r channels through which his instructions r passed. Many like in the days of Moses only knw God's acts but Moses knew His ways and brought instructions from him to them. Not every one has direct link to God almighty so they rely on channels which r men of God and prophets. Pple relied on priests to hear d mind of God bf Jesus came and tore d veil to grant all true believers a direct access to God. The Muslim believe Muhammed is their access to d most high God and got instructions from him just as Guru Maharaji's followers follow his instructions. The problem now is d message which I termed d instructions. Muhammed has a different msg for his followers and tries to harmonize it with many Bible stories. That is where perception comes in. If for d fact that he has a completely different msg for his followers u bliv he serves a diff God then fine. But I knw God almighty d maker of all has no twin brother and no equal. Muslims claim to be servants of God while Christians are legitimate children.

MuttleyLaff:
Ronpet777 and frank317 are having a tense arm wrestling thing going on
By source, channels and instructions,
they are referring to Sender (i.e. Source) that converts messages (i.e. instructions) into signals
and uses transmitters (i.e. channels) to transmit the signals which arrives as information that can be used and understood by people

Someone certainly had a dodgy radio and/or television with a faulty antenna

Hahhaahahahaha! Na so I see am o .Its just all abt perception u knw. It's not so much of a wrestling. Like I said earlier, if he disagrees with me, it's OK, but d general idea is that we all serve the almighty God d creator of all who we call Jehovah and d Muslims call Allah. That we serve a diff God is another ball game entirely and we r free to hold a different opinion on that.
That is definitely not a tussle.
And I think d question was from emmastone not Frank