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MuttleyLaff:
If you accept that praying in the spirit, is the Holy Ghost knowing the will of God and so actually does the praying through us, then please describe:
1) How you, pray in the spirit
2) How you, pray with the spirit

Sir, like I stated earlier, I wasn't happy at d fact that d op called speaking in tongues a great lie. Many Bible verses hv been quoted in this thread to show that there is speaking in tongues, for edification and praying in divers tongues to d father. It is very simple. D Holy Spirit endues us with d unction to pray to d father in other tongues.

I don't want us to over flog this topic, it's just painful that some folks will read d topic and few comments on d surface and condemn all forms of speaking and praying in tongues.
It's sad cos they r very biblical.

dalaman:
So many things motivate me in life, survival alone is enough motivation for me. I don't need empty mythologies and fictional narratives.

And after ur glorified existence Wot follows?

Emmanystone:
Good, this is where you and i will begin a discussion.

If you are unsure of these people being prophets sent by the same Source, why are you here? What is your base for this discussion? You are basing your assertions on assumptions.

Am very unsure of Hindus and Buddhist having the same idealogies, you don't see me dabbling into their discussions.

Again, what are you basing your facts on?


On what bases are you giving a resounding 'Yes?', on assumptions. You are unsure of these things yet you give a resounding Yes?

Now, lets work with your assumption and suppose for a minute that your assumptions are correct. Are you judging these characters as the same entity base of their lexicon or on their Modus Operandi? because i see you using morphology of the words to assume they are they same.

We may have to go down to the etymology of those words to get their meanings, then we will know if these names are fabricated to sound as the same.

James is Jacob?

Now, can we talk about their Modus Operandi? We know a man by what he says and follows up to do them. We know of Gabriel of the Bible appearing gently without inflicting fear or forcing anyone to do anything. Why is Jibril different?

You mean Gabriel called Jesus the son of God to the Jews, and called the same Jesus a slave to Arabs? Really?
Why didn't Gabriel for at least one try having body contact with the prophets of old?
Why press down Muhammed to the point of suffocation before forcing words out of him?

Pls answer this according.


Oga, am not talking about their languages or the syntax of their languages. Am talking about the entities.
If you give a resounding Yes to the question if Gabriel is Jibril, you'll be saying YHWH is Allah. That will put you in a position to explain why the Jews in Yathrib didn't worship Allah as Abdullah did.

If you keep insisting that it's a matter of languages and their syntax, you'd have to explain to me why the Muslims don't walk into Synagogues and worship Allah.

Why will a Nigerian Christian find himself in Germany, a people of a strange tongue, but he walks into a Church to worship instead of a Mosque?

This validates your claim of YHWH being Allah how?


Do you know that God is not a name of any Deity?

God is a title like Chief, King, Madam and Sir.

All the Kings, Chiefs, Sirs and Madams have their personal individual names. So your claim is as invalid as they come.

Allah is not a name of a particular god, it's a title. In Arabic, Allah means god and that could mean any God.
The Allah (god) that Muhammad's progenitors worshipped had a personal name which Muslims abrogated just like they abrogated the daughters of allah Allat Malat and Uzza. his name of Hūbal. The same baal which YHWH commanded his people never to worship.
If you stand on the pedestal of EL means God and Allah means god, you'sink, because El is a title and has his personal name.


Once again, you failed woefully.

No matter how well satan masquerades, he can't be God.

O Well, there are some who will serve him irrespective, they are those the Bible calls Vessels fitted for destruction.

See woman wey dey battle man. I fear u o. U hv Lion Heart o.

petra1:
No but because of our limited understanding of his will , when we pray in the spirit the Holyghost who knows the will of God actually does the praying through us .

Romans 8:26-27 (AMPC)
26 So too the [Holy] Spirit comes to our aid and bears us up in our weakness; for we do not know what prayer to offer nor how to offer it worthily as we ought, but the Spirit Himself goes to meet our supplication and pleads in our behalf with unspeakable yearnings and groanings too deep for utterance.
27 And He Who searches the hearts of men knows what is in the mind of the [Holy] Spirit [what His intent is], because the Spirit intercedes and pleads [before God] in behalf of the saints according to and in harmony with God’s will.

God bless u sir. More wisdom!

dalaman:
I know how it hurts to have your pet beliefs questioned and ridiculed. Some even kill others for doing that. You've told me not to do it, you've even tried to insulted me and use some silly guilt trips all to make me stop but I won't. Your pet superstitious beliefs must be questioned and mocked. So far as we are in a public forum where I am allowed to post anything I want to. What relevance do you have here on earth? Does subscribing to ancient mythology and fiction make your life more relevant than mine? The reality is it doesn't, no matter how you delude yourself.

So tell me dear atheist, Wot's ur motivation for existence ?

sonofluc1fer:
The fact I got some flies following me proves I'm the 5HIT....

Follow me, follow me, na so I dey go oooo..

Follow, follow....

Who wan follow mumU wey no see road, wey no get direction, wey no get purpose.Dey there dey give urself hope.
Mtchewwww!

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Smh. My point is I don't have to be a 'product' to defend a human.[/quote]Ur point is, u don't hv a point. Just keep quiet and learn.
Stop arguing with ur superior.

chemystery:
OK, bye!

Thanks! Shut d door on ur way out.

dalaman:
You have and know NOTHING about existence. You only believe in what others have stated based purely on their own mythical and fictional ideas. You do not know the purpose of life in reality, you only believe what others have stated hat they feel the purpose of life is. Does a muslim with his huge belief and hope truly know what te purpose of life is when he tells you that it is to serve Allah as a loyal and faithful slave? What about a buddisht that claims the purpose of life is to achieve nirvana? Does a hindu and his claims about the purpose and meaning of life truly know? Do you think they know?


If they don't then who lied to you that you do(you are NOT different from them in a way)? Because you were indoctrinated with ancient mythology and fiction doesn't mean you know anything about life and existence better than I do. My existence is not meaningless. The mythical and fictional stories you believe in is not the only thing thata person cam find meaning and purpose in. Many others do not subscribe to your own religion, they subscribe to other religions and still find meaning and purpose in it. Many others don't subscribe to any religion and still also fund meaning and purpose in their lives. Stop your delusions already. Repeating it many times will never make it true. Your empty belief does not give you any special knowledge about life or anything better than me. There is NOTHING you can demonstrate with your beliefs that gives you and edge over me ever. You can only keep wallowing in your delusions.

Dalaman dalaman dalaman! U really always hv something to come up with. U knw my beliefs now, and u call it delusional, fine. Can u kindly stop having nightmares abt itand stop hving high blood pressure marveling about it. Y do u always bother to question pple with their beliefs when u r no better than them, and even worse, by being insignificantly ignorant of d purpose of existence and lacking any sense of relevance on earth?

chemystery:
The way the slavery in Libya and accompanying pictures sent cold chills down my spine is same way you mental slavery and accompanying posts is doing me.

If you want to know how to think, there are lots of smart atheist on nairaland. Just click on their profile and follow them. You will thank me later

Wow! So u just adjudged urself ' not smart',and not deserving of d most minute response. U r a disgrace to ur fellow atheist and humanity in general.

Pls excuse us now, adults r talking.

correctguy101:
I thought chemystry is a guy

Hahahahahahahaha! I don't even knw sef.

Emmanystone:
Ohhhh, my dearly brotherly. But which Camera nah?
Butterfly1ion, weytin be the name of the best Camera?
Bro Muttley, na that one?

Wow! Happy Birthday sis... More blessings and wisdom IJN!

Emmanystone:
Ohhhh, my dearly brotherly. But which Camera nah?
Butterfly1ion, weytin be the name of the best Camera?
Bro Muttley, na that one?

Wow! Happy Birthday sis... More blessings and wisdom IJN!

dalaman:
Its evening here. 6:39PM to be precise.



I don't have a belief when it comes to the issue of creation of the universe. I also do not have a belief when it comes to what comes after people die. I do NOT need a belief. I need reality and the reality is neither you nor me knows how the universe came about, while I am confident to day that I do not know, you are happy to cling unto ancient mythology and fiction because you were indoctrinated with it since childhood. It is not al about God or scientificexplanations. I don'tknow is a position and it is the most honest position. I don't have a belief because I do not know. But what I know for sure is that your belief is nothing but ancient mythology and fiction created by men of old. And that is what I am pointingout to you.





If there is any creation story then nobody needs to believe in it. We will just know it and it will remain factual to us all. Nobody believe in the existence of the sun because it doesn't require any belief. It is self evident and factual to us all. If there is any creation story that is true nobody will need belief. We believe in all these things b cause they are NOT true, so we have to make some mental adjustments to accommodate them because we know them inside that they can be false and we just accept them based on faith or religious grounds.

I have not told you that I believe in the big bang or evolution so I wonder why you are lying to yourself.

I don't need to tell lies to myself or accept the obvious lies and mythological folklore of some ancient people because I want an explanation for things I don't know, things I also know that they themselves do not also know. It's not God or nothing. You don't know how we got here yourself and if I start asking questions you will NOT be able to answer any of it. So I don't know what exactly you are on about. Because you accept ancient mythology and fiction doesn't make you any special or give you any special knowledge. There is nothing that you know about creation that you can demonstrate to be at all even with your God belief. There is nothing about creation you can explain to me objectively. The only thing you can do is to keep parroting ancient mythology and fiction. You can not use your God beliefs to explain anything to me clearly and objectively at all. So who are you deceiving?

Beautiful! I really like u dalaman because u can be very honest. But how come a person who doesn't hv a slight idea about anything pertaining his existence hv d effrontery to question one with one? Ur position is very clear now. U know nothing. Just as brainempty as a three months old baby. For someone like u, u shld sit and learn. When u hv learnt enough to knw ur purpose in d face of d earth, let me knw.
I need people who can dare to believe and run after it with all inquisitiveness till d day a solution is found. We believe in God and we hv gone all out to seek him. We r making progress, u r not. U stand nowhere, as confused as a nincompoop.
dalaman, go and find an answer to ur meaningless existence.

chemystery:
Seriously, those guys are intoxicated in self delusion. We really need to teach them how to think

Tell me about this self delusion ma and why it gives u high blood pressure. Now tell me ur better ideas.

Now tell us how to think. We r all hears.

sonofluc1fer:
When one holds on to a belief inspite of evidence to the contrary, that could be termed as a delusion.

Pls wot r these evidence to the contrary u hv and provide an alternative belief.

butterflyl1on:
My niggah

U r duly sighted my bro.

OkCornel:
I'm asking if believing in certain things you cannot see or touch automatically makes one delusional

He has run off again, as he usually does to refuel. He is not worth d stress Sir.

sonofluc1fer:
Circles Man. You keep asking the same question. It's been repeated many times - No one knows. No one knows how life came about. All we can do is speculate. God is one of those speculations.

Asking a random guy on the internet about Big Bang and evolution has nothing to do with the existence of God. God and evolution are not mutually exclusive. You can read up on it. Make some effort.. read something not written by Paul or Moses.


Keep dancing.

Oh good. So u mean ur brain is devoid of any existential significance! U mean u r as worthless as a living rat? U mean u r just an evolution mistake? Pls speak up. I can't hear u

sonofluc1fer:
Lol. Your smartphone's smarter than your God. Good thing it doesn't require faith to work, just a functional brain. And you just about qualify.

Look at this girl o. She is back again. U hv garnered strength not to defend urself this time but to come and attack those who questioned ur warped reasoning. Hahahahahahahaha! U r welcome. There r good questions forwarded to atheists here if u brought ur glasses and can see. Pls answer these ideological questions.

Emmanystone:
May God engrace these Children with minds as smart as their phones. Amen.

A big amen to that!

tintingz:
I offer you my armpits.

Like how old r u now? Quit being childish and face d main issues.

chemystery:
I'd prefer to admit I have no explanation than to give or accept a bad one.
No explanation can never be wrong; a bad explanation can never be right.

If I go by ur words, u hv nothing to offer. Ur brain is devoid of any explanation of ur existence. U r a complete mistake. Go and sleep.
I need wiser people, not children. Pple with a little idea at least.

dalaman:
Nobody is spineless and unreasonable, the only person that is spineless and unreasonable here is you because you feel the childhood indoctrination you still hold onto in ancient MYTHOLOGICALand FICTIONAL make you any better than the person that has discarded it. There is something called different time zones. It is not everyone here that lives in Nigeria, some of us are in other continents with different time zones.

Again refusing to accept your own version of ancient MYTHOLOGICAL and FICTIONAL doesn't mean that a person's life is meaningless. The ancient MYTHOLOGICAL and FICTIONAL you were indoctrinated with is NOTHING the only thing that gives people meaning and purpose in life. Those that accept other ancient MYTHOLOGICAL and FICTIONAL that are different from yours also find meaning and purpose in their lives from their own MYTHOLOGICAL and FICTIONAL beliefs. Those that discard it all together also have meaning and purpose in their lives, so you better discard that stupid and delusional belief of yours that makes you assume that only people that subscribe to your delusions have meaning and purose in their lives.

Because you believe in some ancient MYTHOLOGY doesn't make your life better than mine in anyway. There is NOTHING that your belief gives you as an advantage. Your belief can not make you do any thing extra ordinary or make hive you any added advantage. You can only make empty and fictitious claims but in reality we are all the same. You have belief in ancient MYTHOLOGICAL and FICTION while I don't and that is the only difference. Your empty beliefs doesn't make you any special at all. It doesn't give you any direction, it only make you deluded and that is the reality .

Good morning Mr dalaman, How was ur sleep? I really don't knw where u reside but I assume I told u it was bedtime here at least and expected u to hold ur comment till ur conversationist is ready to reply.

That said, I noticed dt in trying to give credence to ur belief, I mean, unbelief and ur own idea of d world, u ended up mentioning 'my' belief. Do u find it difficult to comprehend English? Am I permitted to use Spanish? U used tautology generously by mentioning d words mythological and fictional a million times.Is that ur belief?u said it's mine, fine. But I asked for ur belief not mine. To be crystal clear, tell us now for d last time abt d story of creation that we shld bliv henceforth.
Mr dalaman, tell us about d BIG BANG that caused d world to appear from nowhere. Tell us how cells begin to create themselves and how ur forefathers evolved from lizards, monkeys, gorillas, and apes. (Hahahahahahahaha) Oh, forgive me for that. As I was saying, narrate and explain elaborately how everything started and how we all got here and d difference btw humans from a living rat.
God bless u as u go on with this. ¤Grabs a popcorn, and crosses leg¤

To prove how spineless and unreasonable they r, now that it's late and everyone is abt to go to bed, they will come and drop comments to act like Jackie Chan. Y didn't u face me and talk well? Dare to challenge me tomorrow and I will show to u that ur only hope is to question other pple's belief without even having an iota of existential significance. U r all as good as dead. No purpose, just a mistake by evolution.So Wot can a useless living creature preach? I will be a fool to ever argue with a direction less individual who is accusing a person of going d wrong way.Has he found a way for himself yet? When u find a pathway to follow, do contact me. I will be ur guest on d journey. Kids!!! Till 2moro by God's grace

Emmanystone:
Father, hold my tongue. In Jesus name.

Oya brother Ronpet777 come and carry dis boy away from my face before i sin. Tufiakwa.

I am here jare. I don't mind holding sleep for their sake. Yeye pple

dalaman:
I am not here to sell atheism to you. Am here to just point the reality of the matter to you. Having hope in am afterlife means NOTHING in reality. The Islamic terrorist that kills others in the name of Allah has MORE hope than you in the afterlife and acts in such a way that will hasten his transition to the afterlife where he hopes to go and enjoy many heavenly virgins, live in a paradise with rivers of wine, golden streets and all. Your belief is NOT better than that of a common muslim and neither is your hope greater than his. You just subscribe to a different fictional and mythological belief that is just different from his and that's all.

The ancient Egyptians built the pyramids and valley of the kings, thousands of years ago because of their beliefs and hopes in the afterlife. But you look at them today and laugh at their beliefs and hopes in the afterlife just as you do that of Islamic fundamentalist that kills himself and others in the hope of an afterlife.

Life has ONLY one purpose that we know of and that is survival, any purpose or meaning is what you make of it. To the muslims the purpose of life is to be a loyal slave of Allah, to the Buddhist it is to achieve nirvana, t the Hindus is to live loyal to the cast you are born in so that you can reincarnate as a better caste in the next life. Again the purpose and meaning of life is what ever you make of it and it has nothing to do with the reality of life. We must all live and die that is the fact. Believing in ancient mythology and fiction as you do those NOT make your life better than mine in anyway in reality.

You believe in mythology and fiction of ancient people and that remains the fact. Regardless of how it makes you feel, it has nothing to do with anything in reality.

So can u then shut up for life since u offer nothing better. Since my belief doesn't hurt anyone u can simply move along and never antagonize again as u r foolish enough to believe in nothing. It's my bliv not urs, if I like I bliv in soap, do not question me.

U will do well to just continue ur meaningless existence without bothering anyone. Peace!!!

tintingz:
> Can this domain exist without buying it?
> Can online payment be done with no account?
> Does a bank account created by a non-existing entity?

I believe the Moderators exist because thier handle were created the same way as yours e.g using Email, many of your fairy book Prophets have no evidence to back up thier existence.
You're confused.

You result in silly insults just because your logic is flawed!

No domain(like .com) can exist without buying it online and make payment on monthly or yearly bases, you can't pay online without having bank account! Bank account can't run by invisible unkown entity!

So I asked again by your Logic since you're trying to compare the existence of Owner of Nairaland and Owner of this universe, did Yahweh bought materials for this universe? Did he pledge to a superior entity?

You can't eat your cake and have it too!

Hey, sharap. Nobody has time for ur English. Offer us something better or go and sleep

dalaman:
When a lie is put forward I don't need to counter ot with another lie. All I need to show is that you have put forth a lie and move ahead. I knowhow painful it is when people show you that your beliefs are nothing but mythical and fictional beliefs. Long ago the hurch used to kill people for pointing that out until when they lost all their powers. Now muslims are also doing it. But the reality that you only believe ancient mythology and fiction must be pointed out and I don't need to replace it with my own fictional narrative.

So u get mouth to talk ,U get luck sey I run go do some things. Oya answer my questions coward.

Emmanystone:
And this section is created for me to contribute my godly stupidity, (you think i dont know that what am doing sound atupid to you?) But you? You are a wandering dying star, with no base and no destination.

Chai! Very painful !!

chemystery:
Yahweh bought a DIY Universe Starter Kit at Alaba international market

Tell us ma. Wot do u believe? How did d world begin and wot is d purpose of life??



If u can't, keep silent for life.

butterflyl1on:

Pls where r they? I mean the atheists. I tot they were all over this thread?

Bunch of kids