₦airaland Forum

Fulamafia:
Dr. Junaid's choice of words were not particularly ideal even if his assertions were correct.

Furthermore the IYM actually pledged support for PMB, it's in the latter part of the interview.

I'm sure in your selective reading, you didn't notice he also said that Nigeria system needs restructuring


Let's keep dancing around the solution to our problem

GOATandYAMtheory:
https://cdn.dailypost.ng/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Elliot-Uko.jpg?a1f46c



In conclusion, we all know that the political structure of Nigeria encourages corruption, though that is no excuse for looting, but the fact that we continue to pretend that the structure is not part of the problem is quite unfortunate. Nigeria will never be truly great unless we restructure our polity. Pretending the structure is just fine cannot help anybody. The present structure, simply encourages corruption.

http://dailypost.ng/2015/08/19/interview-junaid-mohammed-is-preparing-ground-for-another-civil-war-elliot-uko/

I just came here to read comments from those SS and Igbo wannabes that will soon enter this thread to tell us how they love Nigeria the way it is now.


'We the SS like Nigeria the way it is now'

Or

'I'm Igbo from Abia state but Nigeria is sweet as it is now'


I know one of them go soon show up

mekano1980:
You are such an idiot by compairing viagram with biafra fool

This is an insult to idiots cos He's worse than an idiot

@mogidi so u don marry u no invite us abi?

Who be op?

Candyrain:
Oh that's really interesting, you already decided for them. Ok, I think we are done.

The guy's argument is the weakest I've seen as far as Biafra ish is concerned.

No insult intended

AwesomelyMade:
You are crushing on Rose2014

Ignore him pls.
He probably saw a Biafra giant pursuing him in his dream last night

TruthisGOD:
Lets be reasonable here, if the ibo speaking states that countribute less than 30% in terms of revenue accrued from oil wants to seccede Nigeria will not allow to them seccede peacefuly, hw is it possible that SS that is the main bulk of oil revenue can seceede inependently? For SS to seceede the need a strong alliance with SE.

100% correct
This is what I've bn saying. People that have refused to restructure Nigeria because of oil but they'll create SS country for them.

The good thing is that the smart ones are able to see beyond their nose while some Yoruba/Hausa impostors are busy shouting 'our oyel' to confuse the gullible

ECOTERRORS:
LOL, I belive you are an Edo man from the northern part of Edo that shares close affinity with Okene than even the Bini. Your own SS makes me to laugh.
An Instance is when a Bornu man looks at that idoma man that shares boundary with Nsukka and calls him Northerner. The Idoma man will have a ready answer that's not palatable for that Bornu man

See finishing

barcanista:
I don't know why some people out of insecurity will create threads of "South South will not be Biafra" "SS can never be part of Biafra" "Igbo want our Oyeeeeeeel" and bla bla bla.

If not for insecurity why will people create such threads repeatedly? The question of SS being part of Biafra is not subject to debate. The SS has different ethnic groups- Igbo/Ikwerre, Ijaw, Itsekiri, Urhobo, Ekpeye, Bini, Esan, Efik, Ibibio etc. Every ethnic group is distinct from each other and will INDEPENDENTLY determine whether or not they want to be with the project Biafra. As it stands today, the relationship between the Igbos within the SS and those in the SE is BLOOD bonded. The relationship between the Ijaws and the entire Igbo is waxing stronger and stronger and we see each other as worthy brothers/cousins. Same with Ibibio and Igbos. The Binis and the Ethnic nationalities of Old Bendel (Edo and Delta states) have all had harmonous relationship among themselves. They all voted in a referendum to stay together in an independent Midwest region (Bini, Igbo, Ijaw, Urobo, Esan etc). If Biafran question comes today, majority of these ethnic groups will vote a resounding YES over the present Nigerian structure. There is nothing like "SS Igbo and SE Igbo", Igbo is Igbo whether they are in SS or SE, just as Ijaw is Ijaw whether in Rivers state, Bayelsa state, Delta state, Edo state or Ondo state. All these people creating threads like this and making statements like "we the South South" should come to terms with the reality. There is no ethnic group called South South. There has never been a time when "South South" appointed anybody to speak for them. Individuals can only speak for their tribes.

Nevertheless, some of us have been trying to see how we can foster harmonous relationship among Nigerian ethnic groups so as to maintain our unity. We have been seeking for good governance and a restructured system. We have been trying to see that this country Nigeria allows everyone equal opportunity whether Yoruba, Hausa, Igbo or Itsekiri. We believe that the agitation for an independent Biafra will only be dropped WHEN the country Nigeria is structured in a way that is acceptable to all ethnic nationalities.


God Bless Us All

That is the koko right there.
But will 'the powers that be' agree to have Nigeria restructured to ensure equity n fairness?

Sadly the answer remains a resounding NO

xtrorse:
A lie may travel for a thousand miles, but it takes just one step of truth to catch up with it. ..

How are 'Igbo people constantly shooting themselves in the foot?'
When was it, that the Igbos are the only tribe in Nigeria that made so much noise and made it clear that their decision at the polls would be based purely on tribe?
Where and when did the Igbos boast or made threats during the last elections? 
How are the Igbos burning bridges?

How have Igbos created permanent enemies for themselves through their lack of diplomacy? Can you mention the Igbos involved? Which media did Igbos use to make noise, stating that their votes in the polls would be based purely on tribe - Punch, PremiumTimes, Leadership, Osundefender, TheNation, LindaIkeji, TVC, SaharaReporters or which one

How dare you falsely state that Hausas never openly opposed GEJ. Can't Yorubas face Igbos on their own? Must Yorubas resort to ass-licking and falsehood, dragging others along to help them withstand Igbos?

Haba! What sort of lies are these? It is only people with dead consciences that fabricate wicked lies and distort history to achieve some undue advantages over others which are bound to boomerang. This is how these unrepentant hypocrites and treasury looters want us to continue in this false union.

Where is your verifiable proof for your assertions? Something is not factually true just because you wrote it. What you just stated are simply your biased opinion. But it doesn't make them facts. 

Have a look at some past news via these links where Yorubas made so much noise in the media before 2015 general elections:

http://dailyindependentnig.com/2013/03/demurens-sack-fasehun-others-cry-yoruba-marginalisation/

http://thestreetjournal.org/2013/03/yorubas-in-europe-decry-jonathans-marginalization-of-the-south-west/

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/02/now-were-the-marginalised-yoruba-elders/

http://www.naij.com/334439-jonathans-attempt-to-persuade-yoruba-too-late-afenifere.html

http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/tunde-fagbenle/ugly-signs-of-yoruba-marginalisation.html

http://ketekete.com/why-yoruba-will-never-support-goodluck-jonathan-in-2015/

https://ogala./2011/06/06/aminu-tambuwal-elected-speaker-against-pdps-wish/

The reasoning of the bigot who assembled the lies above is not only terrible but despicable. 
Many Yorubas are noise makers and become rattled when confronted with the truth. Many a time you do not know what  Yorubas stand for. 

What do you call 'political sophistication'? Peddling lies and propaganda in every available media in order to tarnish and paint other people black so as to make some undue political gains? 

[b]It's basically in Yorubaland that a man like Tinubu who embezzled Lagos State would call the shots and Yorubas would still sheepishly prostrate before him and follow him and his candidate blindly. Many Yorubas sheepishly follow criminals like they have no sense.

As big as Rochas Okorocha is, he was not sure of winning a second term as a governor of Imo State because his people were not satisfied with him. In Ebonyi State, the governor's candidates failed woefully. That's the Igbos for you. Nobody can hold Igbos down for too long; they will rise up against such political leader.
It's in Yoruba land that one person would perpetually control the people's resources and they will sheepishly follow him. If it were in the South East, Akinwumi Ambode will deny Tinubu publicly to stand a chance of winning the gubernatorial election just like Ikpeazu, Abia State PDP candidate, denied TA Orji to win some votes.

Igbo people believe no man was born to perpetually lord it over them.  

Observe that most of the people talked carelessly if not stupidly as regards 2015 elections, both in the ruling party and the opposition were Yorubas. Many  took things overboard,  threatening fire and brimstone - from Obj, Tinubu, Okupe, FFK, Lai Muhammed, Fayose, Fashola etc.

Even Yoruba people who cannot handle their families and fence-climbing thugs with no respect for the law or law enforcement called president GEJ unprintable names.

These unrepentant thieves, prostitutes and murderers of yesterday have used their giant loots to attempt to grow legitimacy and to corner the "highest-bidder-gains-it -all" political process.
They seem to feel they are born kings and queens and that attention is owed them. They do not consider anyone else's nature, but bulldoze over other people with self-righteous arrogance and supposed 'sophistication'.

For the records, Igbos supported Tinubu, and Fashola as governors of Lagos State for 16 years! That was why an Igbo man, Ben Akabueze, has been a major cabinet member in Lagos for both Tinubu and Fashola.[/b]

Facts are sacred...
Yoruba have proven beyond reasonable doubt to be chief tribalists in Nigeria and can NEVER vote anybody outside their tribe in elections. Otherwise can you compare Obasanjo’s 4 years and Jonathan's 4 years Yet Yorubas supported Obasanjo for 2nd term notwithstanding Buhari was contesting in 2003.

Yoruba has been voting along tribal line since independence (facts are sacred). Quit denigrating other tribes especially Igbos to cover your lies and ethnic bias.
The South-West zone had 14,296,163 registered voters, which represented 19.44% of the total number of voters nationwide. In terms of national electoral strength, the zone was number 2. Taking into account the electoral behaviour of the South-West since independence, the zone has proven itself, without exception, of incapable of voting anyone other than its own. 

In the 1st Republic, it voted mainly Action Group in favour of Chief Obafemi Awolowo with about 69% voters’ turnout.

In the 2nd Republic, it voted 78.75% of its total votes cast for UPN in favour of Chief Awolowo, with 70% voters’ turnout. 

In the June 12, 1993 presidential election, the pattern was repeated more or less the same, except that the total percentage of SDP’s votes in favour of Chief MKO Abiola rose up to 84.5% in the zone. 

In the 1999 presidential election, mainly because the only two candidates for the presidency were both from the South-West, the zone’s voters’ turnout was abysmally low (48.09%) with about 68% of the votes cast to APP in favour of Chief Olu Falaye. 2003 also recorded poor voters’ turnout with 71% of votes cast for Obasanjo’s PDP. 

In 2011, with no South-Western candidate fielded by any of the major parties, the South-West voted PDP when a functional alliance with the CPC failed to field in Sen. Bola Ahmed Tinubu or his nominee. Besides, with the vicious experience of Alliance for Democracy in 2003 when the PDP Federal Government uprooted AD government in five states of the zone, the South-West could not afford to risk having an opposition PDP government at the Federal level again; certainly not after the hard pains and toils of forming the APC. It is therefore existential for the South-West to vote APC at the presidential election.

http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/daily/politics/50349-2015-presidential-election-how-and-why-pdp-will-lose

For many decades now, how did Hausa-Fulani build bridges with the frequent killings and destruction of lives, properties and places of Christian worships, not to mention the Boko-Haram insurgents who are not only threatening the existence of the country but maim and kill peasants farmers and villagers on a regular basis? But they now have the presidency while the Yorubas vice-presidency! What a misnomer!

Almost throughout GEJ regime Hausa-Fulanis and some traitors in the South West were preaching hate messages in the North and in the South West.
These unrepentant prophets of doom devised every crook tactics (falsehood, media propaganda, threats, sponsored Boko-Haram insurgency still rearing its ugly head, blood shed etc.) and they still believe that Nigeria can subsist.

And what would you say of the North where Jonathan carried out most of his developmental projects at the expense of his Ijaw people and yet the greedy tribalists colluded with Yorubas and voted against him? Or the Yorubas who voted against Jonathan because Buhari's vice, Osinbajo, is a Yoruba man?
The last time I checked Jonathan is not an Igbo man. Many Igbos voted voted for Jonathan because treachery and betrayal is not in their DNA unlike the Yorubas and their co-travellers.
Many disgruntled Yorubas called GEJ many unprintable news - clueless, weak, visionless and impotent - online and offline simply because he is not from the born-to-rule tribes. There cannot be peace in a country where some people regard others as second-class citizens even in their own fathers' land that's feeding the country.
Many of these tribalists and hypocrites were in government and nothing worked. They fleeced our commonwealth and there was no transparency. Now these sets of hypocrites have begun another round of propaganda and deceit against Igbos - their nightmares!.

If Yorubas are accommodating and friendly, why have Yorubas persistently bred and used miscreants to distort money and distrupt the businesses of law-abiding citizens in Lagos? Why would any Yoruba person dare utter such word like 'accommodating' other people in Lagos - a city developed with crude oil money and by the communal efforts of every tribe in Nigeria for close to a century; as if Yorubas feed other people and give out lands for free? 

If Yorubas didn't want any Igbo man to own a part of their land, why did they sell their lands to them in the first place? Why should thecYoruba man collect over N300 million from an Igbo man just to sell a plot of land to him in Ikoyi; collect taxes and other tenement rates from Igbo man and yet, they will not want him to claim rights of a landlord? Did any Igbo man stop you from buying properties, lands and other assets in Igboland and laying claims as a landlord? 
When did Orji Uzor Kalu's outburst that Lagos is a no man's land represent the opinion of over 70 million Ndigbo. Yorubas are aborigines in Lagos state. But if they decide to sell their fathers' properties to an Igbo man and collect his hard earned money and come back later to trespass, they should be jailed! Did anybody compel Yorubas to sell Igbos lands? Enough of this ethnic bigotry.

Asiwaju conducted census in Lagos state and told us that the Igbos are 45% of Lagos population, Yorubas are 47% and others make up the other number.
The Igbos are not daft or cowards to be threatened to vote for a particular candidate in Lagos 2015 gubernatorial election. It is so pathetic for Oba Rilwanu Akiolu to do so!

Between the Igbos and Yorubas, which of them constantly display insensitivity, crass disrespect, mindlessness arrogance and continued to insult the dignity and sensibility of other people using their numerous media outfits to heat up the polity, creating enmity and problems in the country and still foolishly think they are the 'sophisticated' tribe? The Emir of Kano, Sanusi Lamido Sanusi had already exposed such wicked lies in his paper titled 'YORUBAS ARE THE PROBLEM WITH NIGERIA'.

Igbo people are no betrayers and don't harbour traitors, chronic, perennial, perpetual, pathological liars! 

Igbos have been killed in the North since 1940s, long before independence. They have continued to be killed in the North up till present. Nzeogwu's coup only provided a pretext for the North supported by the treacherous West to embark upon their favorite past time. Ojukwu defended Igbos from ethnic cleansing. Igbos survived the war because they are very resilient.

Yorubas and their co-travellers accuse Igbos of being greedy. That Igbo's love for money is insatiable, while every other Nigerian groups hate money! Abacha, Gowon, Obj, IBB, Danjuma, Abiola, etc, heartless men who looted the Nigerian treasury dry, is any of them Igbo?

If there is any one tribe in the world that values and protects the stranger that tribe is Igbo. Igbos permeate almost every nook and cranny of the country, peacefully and immensely contributing their quota to the economic advancement of the locals and the country at large. I am yet to read Igbos on rampage causing havoc and fighting their 'host'. Igbos network with their 'host', build business empires and some of them even get married to their 'host', all for peaceful co-existence and building bridges. Is that tantamount to stupidity, creating permanent enemies,  preaching hate, not being tactful   and not building bridges?

Is there any tribe that exhibits such 'Nigerianess' than the Igbos? Can the greedy tribalists boast of this? NO!

But what do the Igbos get in return for this patriotic display of One Nigeria - threats and destruction of their lives and properties by the so called 'host'? Igbos are being harassed, molested and their legal businesses distrupted on regular basis by the 'host' and its government. 

Oba Rilwanu Akiolu of Lagos even went as far as threatening to drown Igbos in the Lagoon if they did not vote for his candidate in the last 2015 election. And a good number of Yorubas hailed and supported their Oba for the bold step - Dr Ariyo, Kunle Afolayan etc.!

YORUBA LEADERS SOWED THE SEED OF TRIBALISM AND RUINED NIGERIAN ECONOMY
Many of the achievements of the Yoruba tribe is largely due to the fact that they have been unjustly favoured by the lopsided arrangement in the polity. That's why a great number of Yorubas would prefer the status quo to remain. A number of Yorubas have used the unjust system to their advantage, looting the treasury with reckless abandon. Yoruba leaders wrecked this country and brought her to the present miserable state! 

When a couple of distinguished past nationals like Nnamidi Azikiwe did their best to promote national patriotism even to the disadvantages of their own people, the likes Obafemi Awolowo used their positions to entrench hatred, bitterness, tribalism, nepotism and religious bias in the polity for their selfish gains. The latter are still being held in high esteem by their tribesmen, and they even use any means to shove it down the throats of other people.

Informed people are not deceived by Yoruba usual shouting, crying, weeping, wailing, yelling, cursing and making much noise on every available media. This a tribe that is after all well known for being loose cannons. Uncouth, uncivilised and disrespectful set of people who made a career out of abuse and slurs.
If there is any southern tribe that have gained much from this fraudulent union, it is the Yoruba tribe! 
Yoruba tribe have only flourished at the expense of others courtesy of the unjust system! 

In saner climes many Yoruba leaders should have been behind bars spending the rest of their miserable lives for the great looting of our commonwealth.

Inspite of the crass looting of the treasury by many Yorubas, Yoruba land still remains one of the illiteracy and poverty stricken regions in Nigeria! Yoruba achievements have not in any way given her people a better welfare than the Igbos.
Whichever way the loudmouthed tribalists turn, one is certain - they must be made to eat their words! 

The bottom line remains that guilty conscience is the problem of many Yorubas which has practically beclouded their sense of judgement. They taunt the Igbo with images of the Biafran war. They brag to these victims of their genocidal exploits in the war; how Adekunle murdered innocent youths in their prime and how their god Awolowo used starvation policies to create kwashiorkor-ridden children. And they think these things don't irk the common Igbo youth. 

The Igbos have done much and achieved much for themselves and Nigeria. Whatever negative impression you get from any quarter is as result of envy - the pull-him-down syndrome. But that has not deterred Igbos from waxing stronger and excelling in almost every socio-economic index.

In the light of this, it is very unjust to accuse Igbos of not being tactful and strategic or not building bridges just because they seek a legal way of determining their destiny. Stating that Igbos are not building bridges or not reasonable is all hogwash and amounts to nothingness. 

'One Nigeria' seems to be just for self benefit - anybody or tribe who is benefiting from it, be it in civil service, politics and business through monopoly, backed by evil structures put in place by past leaders will not agree that Nigeria should be restructured or otherwise. So many lives have been sacrificed and are still being sacrificed to keep Nigeria one at the expense of some people. Rather than challenge the gross inequality and injustice (quota system, false census figure, lopsided local government areas) in the polity these tribalists still consider it right to fabricate and spread malicious messages to score political points that are bound to boomerang. 

Igbos may go through pains in the beginning, but majority are resolute fighters and never quitters. They are very confident of overcoming like they did after the Biafran war. 

Whatever Igbos may be going through now is part of the struggle. Freedom isn't given, it's taken. Definitely,  there is no pain, no gain.

The typical Igbo man is civil and values the sanctity of life.  

No matter how hard these evil men try to cover up and silence the truth; truth is stubborn and she cannot be drowned. She is like a pack of straws that are held together and pinned down by a strong hand at the bottom of a river so that she should not be seen or heard. Yet one day, in the fullness of time, that strong hand that seeks to suppress her forever shall wither and dry up. At that point Lady Truth will happily float to the top of the water where she will be seen and heard by all. It is in the same way that one day, in the fullness of time, the pernicious and perfidious verdict...that the powers that be have claimed....will be exposed for what they are.

I had to quote this for future reference
Well said bro with facts to back it up

atbu1983:
Quates from CHM11 ( a nairalander)


"There are a million things that happened in the past that have completely built a bridge between some major tribes. Just the same way the igbos hate the Northerners and the yorubas for the Biafra war (which they ridiculously call genocide), its the same way some major tribes in the SS hate the igbos.

Consider the following with a clear conscience.

The igbos were the most successful tribe in the country during the pre-war era even though the administration of the country was in the hands of the North. Thanks to minister of finance, Okotiebo. The country was still at peace as all tribes could live in other regions peacefully but the igbos were the most decentralised as they could do business in the North, SS, and SW peacefully and successfully. This wasn't good enough and with military power, Aguiyi Ironsi (from anambra) commanded his subordinate (Kaduna Nzeogwu) to carry out the first coup,...Northern leaders were killed by these soldiers in a very ridiculous way. Worse there is an interview where Major Nzeogwu was bragging about how they killed the Northern soldiers in disgustingly ridiculous ways.

This was what led to a reprisal attach by the Northerners and many igbos were killed in the North in return. Nobody went to the east to kill anybody, the east was peaceful.

Oil was just discovered in the Niger Delta region (which the igbos considered as their subordinates). Then the wanted to force the Niger Delta region into Biafra. The biafran Soldiers started from Calabar, forcing all minorities into their army. They went to akwaibom, ogoni, portharcourt, Bayelsa, ughelli, Warri, Sapele, Auchi, Benin, Okada and even Ore. As they went the killed those who refused to join them.

Then when they got to Ore, the yorubas defended their land by fighting back. The Yorubas had been silent all along and the igbos went as far as their homeland trying to invade their land.

Then came the return invasion by the federal troops who helped all SS states and when the igbos were all caged up in their hometown in SE, the federal troops had mercy and didn't attack dem till they surrendered.

Then Ojukwu Ran away to abidjan and the wise Phillip Effiong who was cajoled into the igbo dream went straight to col. Obasanjo and Obasanjo lead Effiong to go and apologise to gowon who gladly accepted his apology.

Today the igbos play the victim like they wernt the ones who started the attack from the first coup.

The invasion of minority tribe lands in Cross river, Akwaibom, Rivers, Bayelsa, Delta, Edo and even parts of Ondo by the Biafran Army, the igbos are quick to forget all these. They just want to play the victim all the time."

You go fear source na
Chm11 is now the source.

*walks out of thread*

atbu1983:
Op, from my perspective, I think you are d one who is myopic who does not see the big picture. Niger Delta Emancipation cannot happened through Biafra. You may be a Biafra symperthiser and believe that any South South person who does not support Biafra is Myopic.

The truth is that not everybody want to be subordinate for ever. Many south south people want total freedom. Not a situation where a Tribe (igbo) who believe they are born to rule all the south south minority we put us into to complete extinction. Hausa Fulani is not our problem. The problem of Niger Delta is Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa. To me Hausa people have some respect and regard for others even when power is with them. But Igbo will threat others as semi-human being if you give them that opportunity.

History has teach many wise south south people Igbo are the worst set of Nigerians to give absolute power to. The attrocity and genocide committed by the Igbo on south south minority during the civil war is still fresh in some peoples mind. You might have forgotten others have not.

Isaac Adaka boro lost his vision of Ijaw Republic because Igbo believes we are thier slaves. It was Igbo head of state General Agunyi Ironsi who stopped him and fought him and destroyed his dream.

You may habve personal hatred for Hausa/fulani because igbos have brainwashed you they are your enemy. Not everyone is brainwashed.

No offense but this argument is so weak n lacks substance

I came with expectation that you'd counter him with facts but this? ? Smh

Candyrain:
2 weeks? And what would I be doing without you for 2weeks? You tell me.

Chai. This explains why I couldn't take the 24hour break today

Sleep calling

Candyrain:
Hi sweetness. You were supposed to be having a 24hour break off NL, and that means you resting. What happened love?

Hey boss U gave me 24hours break? Aww how nice of you but 24hours is too small na, I need 2weeks

Nothing my dear. Just having fun

Candyrain:
You are still awake Rose2014, how are you?

Hi love

vicadex07:
You just fooled urself on your thread forming CIA. Sowell25 obviously de activated and then created sowell26 cos of people like you...poor sweetlemon

How do u deactivate in the course of a debate and create a new account just to continue where u stopped ?