Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 4:52am On Jul 19, 2021 |
aribisala0: When I graduated is irrelevant
YOU clearly do not understand the meanings of the words you are throwing around Empirical is not the antonym of Qualitative You said you assertion was based on observation. Empirical by definition implies just that "based on observation
It is clear you have no clue of the difference between quantitative an qualitative research and are just blabbing ignorantly Yawnnn. Little boy, run along and debate your mates. I debated the meaning of those terms when you were in nappies. |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 4:45am On Jul 19, 2021 |
aribisala0: Qualitative is not the antonym of empirical
Research can be qualitative AND Empirical
If indeed you went to university then you wasted money and should ask for a refund What a complete dunce. You probably graduated recently so your little boy head is in ecstasy. I asked you 2 simple questions which you refused to answer, only to return with this garbage. Two simple questions: 1) Ever heard of qualitative research? 2) Do you think all research is empirical? Simple. Nobody asked you if one is the antonym of the other. |
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Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 4:38am On Jul 19, 2021 |
aribisala0: By implication 90% of the super rich in the south are Ibo? Another stupid, baseless inference. |
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Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 4:32am On Jul 19, 2021 |
aribisala0: By the wat why are you comparing Ibo to "Northern" Ibo is an ethnic group and there are dozens of ethnic groups in the North e.g there are Yoruba , Igala Tiv and Fulani with very different cultures
Certainly Yoruba are very different from Fulani. Are you Arrewa. That is the person who is always insisting on grouping the whole north together. So why single out Ibos from the south 90% or more of the northern super rich are Hausa - Fulani. No need to be pedantic. |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 4:23am On Jul 19, 2021 |
aribisala0: Experience is not data Does every old person have the same experience or opinion? Even if you try you cannot force me
Take my position or leave it Your position is absurd
You gave a specific figure in % what is the basis?
You cannot tell us the population of Imo state based on how long you have been around or the crowd of people you move with can you? Ever heard of qualitative research? Do you think all research is empirical? |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 4:17am On Jul 19, 2021 |
aribisala0: Guy if indeed you went to school you would know that that is a ridiculous basis for any statistical claims You have been around a long time ? So what? Are you the only that has been around a long time? Your claim is one that needs to be buttressed by evidence from research or objective study not anecdote Itoo have been around a long time and seen a lot of plastic blue kettles .So what? Length of time on Earth is certainly a factor in gaining worldly experience. Other factors come into play, such as the crowd of people you know, the numbers, etc etc. Take it or leave it. I'm not forcing you to accept my position.  |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 4:10am On Jul 19, 2021 |
aribisala0: Anyone can just manufacture any statistic and say it is observation and experience
The weight of the claim being made is not one that can be buttressed by phantom "observation and experience"
I can just wake up and s ay 90% of northerners possess a plastic blue kettle from observation and experience? Dude, I've been around a long time and have met many folks. I know exactly what I'm talking about, and I bet you, if you were to pull up one of these Igbos defending their beloved 'tribe' in private, they'll attest to the truth of what I'm saying. The Igbo super rich are VERY selfish and stingy. I'm talking of men worth countless millions of dollars whose blood brothers and cousins are walking the streets in the sun looking for what to sell to eat. It's no secret.  You can name virtually any Igbo multimillionaire today and I can show you his relatives suffering. |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 4:07am On Jul 19, 2021 |
DesChyko: Your intra-ELITE wealth transfer narrative doesn't exclude the vast poor natives from the identity of being a Northerner. For all your generational wealth transfer, the poverty rate in your region is almost twice that of the region you think you have a say on the way they use their money. Stop barking up the wrong tree. Numbers from the civil war down to this date show the Igbo system is working. Numbers show the generational poverty transfer in the North is thriving too. You are an ignorant and thoughtless dunce to baselessly presume my place of origin.
When you learn to debate without making such stupid, ignorant presumptions, you can come back. |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 3:43am On Jul 19, 2021 |
aribisala0: How do you work this one out?
On what basis do you get these numbers Observation and experience. |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 3:38am On Jul 19, 2021 |
DesChyko: Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
This is the Igbos' way of life.
That being said, the poverty rate in South East Nigeria is 42% in the most primitive of areas, while that of the North is 78% of their population.
This heavily contradicts the OP's idea of generosity and wealth spread. Another idiotic response that deliberately ignores the thrust of the debate, which focuses on intra-ELITE wealth transfer and expansion.
Just because you are Igbo does not mean you lose your common sense and objectivity, and pretend not to understand what is being said, out of desperation to defend your 'perfect tribe' from criticism. |
Politics › Re: Racism Is Not About Colour, But Is About Wealth by rosinkkit: 3:16am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Hardfacts234: Don't get it twisted, racism exist. Like "black monkey" reference or Nigerians calling Chinese "chinko"
But much of what happens to blacks in Europe and America is 'economic discrimination'.
It's rare to see Europeans or Whites in general being racist against the Japanese people. No, it's not rare at all. Many Japanese Americans have been targeted and beaten up simply for looking the way they do. According to wiki, ''Anti-Japanese sentiment in the United States has existed since the late 19th century, during the Yellow Peril. Anti-Japanese sentiment peaked during the Second World War and again in the 1970s–1980s with the rise of Japan as a major economic power.'' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Japanese_sentiment_in_the_United_StatesSo WHEN you become a major economic power is when white racism against you increases, not decreases. You become a threat to white supremacy. That is when they are at their most evil and devious to you. Note how they've been demonising China in their media. They might even be planning war on them. I believe that Divine Intervention will save the world from the 'white' race. ''He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity..'' Revelation 13:10 It could be coming pretty soon. |
Politics › Re: Oba Anambra State Obi Cubana's Town (photos) by rosinkkit: 3:11am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Funny how Nigeria is a 'shithole zoo' until it's time to show off YOUR part of it. |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 3:00am On Jul 19, 2021 |
juman: In wealth transfer to others, igbos are the best in nigeria. Not among the super rich class, the subject of discussion.
In wealth transfer within the super rich class, they are the worst, hence the lack of truly wealthy families and dynasties.
By wealthy families I mean wealthy families, NOT families with one very wealthy man in them. Those are not wealthy families. |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 2:58am On Jul 19, 2021 |
selemempe: we know how Obi Cubana made Cubana chief priest a rich man. Please tell us one northerner who BUA group chairman made a rich man
Mumu boy. You use to have a yyeske account where you claimed to be from Anambra. We didn't even know you were an abokì unity begger from kebbi I don't debate thugs. |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 2:30am On Jul 19, 2021*. Modified: 2:50am On Jul 19, 2021 |
What we are talking of here is generational wealth. Family wealth expansion. The creation of dynasties which outlive the founder.
When those family dynastIes then combine to act as one, as happens in the north, nothing is impossible. They can do and undo.
That is what the wealthy Igbo elite class need to learn.
Think the Rothschilds.
This family started out as one man, Mayer Amschel Rothschild. Today, EVERY person answering the name Rothschild is like a walking BANK containing billions of dollars.
Their money is too much to be counted.
The East MUST create these sort of family dynasties. They are highly influential. They influence governments. And policies.
Hiding your money from your extended family and even your kids in some cases, and preferring to be the 'only big shot around', and insisting your relatives should go and struggle for their money the way you struggled for yours, is primitive thinking, and is no way to go about building such dynasties. Keep doing that, and you will always be dominated by others. |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 2:20am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Mchawi: Everything you said is nonsense. Go and take a sit oga I think you should return to the kitchen where you belong, Madam. |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 2:18am On Jul 19, 2021 |
jimyjames: As long as Nigerian politics is concerned northerner will always dominate the South politically, it has always being like that, that's how the British created it to be , it has nothing to do with riches You can breach their unity, if you had financial superiority, by buying off their major players, like they do yours today. Money talks. Bullshit walks. |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 2:07am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Yankee101: Lol. Not all the electronics are cash bought. A good number are credit purchases. You settle the manufacturers or big dealers after you sell Why spoil his fun bro? Let him think having goods in your shop worth a million dollars makes you a millionaire.  |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 1:43am On Jul 19, 2021 |
jimyjames: My friend I repeat northerner dominance has nothing to do with riches, their dominance is pure strength in Unity and population something the South lacks, northern Unity and political strength made them wealthy, in the 70s when Nigerian economy was in the hands of Europeans Lebanese, Indians, Nigeria introduced what was known as indigenization degree foreigners were forced to sell shares to Nigeria indigenes igbos had no money to buy any cause the lost everything in the war most of the wealthy Nigerians both from North and South West their wealth can be traced to the Indigenization degree . No need to argue too much with you. My point remains valid. Dominance ALWAYS has to do with 'riches'. ''Strength in unity'' can only get you so far. |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 12:50am On Jul 19, 2021*. Modified: 1:11am On Jul 19, 2021 |
jimyjames: The northern dominance has nothing to do with the handful of rich people they have, the British created Nigeria with northern dominance in mind , right from the creation of Nigeria till date northern region are more populated and more united by religion making them strong politically, the South is divided and weak politically, the South is ten times richer than North , the weakness in South is lack of Unity the strength in the North is their unity nothing more it has nothing to do with riches You're wrong. While the British did play a big part in enthroning northern dominance, the north has MAINTAINED and strengthened that dominance through close patronage within their elite circles as well as elite expansion and consolidation. Plus their millionaire/billionaire class is NOT ''a handful'' by any stretch of the imagination, or they wouldn't be dominating YOUR elite. Alhaji X has 100 million dollars in his account. He will share 50 million dollars with his ten brothers. Each one will have 5 million dollars. Suddenly a family of one millionaire becomes a family of 11 millionaires, ten of whom you've never heard of. These are the type who pull up in a Ferrari at a club and everyone is wondering who the fck is that? Just some .......unknown relative of a northern big shot. Chief Okonkwo has 100 million dollars in his account. He will share less than 1 million dollars with his ten brothers. A family of one millionaire REMAINS a family of one millionaire. The rest just getting by. Which family will dominate the other after a few years? After a few decades?The ONLY thing preventing the north from capitalising on this advantage as I said earlier, is religion. The South lacks that religious burden, so if they adopted the northern way of elite expansion through empowering your closest, they could easily gain the political influence that will give them the power to transform their regions. Right now, individual selfishness and extreme individualism, even in business, is stopping them. |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 12:25am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Muna4real: Your political affluence and dominance have not helped your people. Go to your roots and teach them how you made money. That's how sensible people reason. Who do you call ''my people''? You've absolutely no idea where I'm from, so shut your presumptuous trap.
Use your brain and stop arguing like a dunce. The 'Jews' of Europe and America are a great example of this generational wealth transfer, retention, and expansion, as well as the 'oil sheikhs' of the Arab world. |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 12:20am On Jul 19, 2021*. Modified: 4:00am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Muna4real: It's better to have many electronic shops feeding hundreds and training more hundreds than have a big company feeding only those that work for you. Not if you want political influence and dominance. For that, you need a powerful, large elite class of millionaire/billionaire industrialists who transfer wealth efficiently within their families and from one generation to the next, in a seamless manner. The Igbo elite have not got round to this level of thinking and are still stuck in ''me, myself and I'' mode. Parents even hide their wealth from their kids. That is why they are politically dominated by other groups. |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 12:19am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Muna4real: It is useless to have many wealthy elites when your people are poor. Go to the roots and help your people. They will not eat your useless political position, they want to come out of poverty. Having a powerful elite can garner you the kind of political power you need to make societal change that benefits the masses. Hausa-Fulanis may have religious hangups preventing that, but southerners don't. So if they could expand their elite and capture real national power, they can change a lot of things for their people. |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 12:16am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Muna4real: Mr detective, tell us the igbo millionaires that died and left their money and foreign bank. Also, when has it become a crime to save your money in foreign bank? It's not my job to list names for you, so that is an imbecilic request. I'm talking based on my knowledge and experience. What is YOUR experience if any, on the subject matter?
Who said it was a crime to save money in foreign banks? You seem to have a very low IQ. I suggest you find another debate and leave this one. |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 12:09am On Jul 19, 2021 |
vasel15: Like Walton family ish Thank you my brother. One sensible person here at last. |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 12:05am On Jul 19, 2021 |
jimyjames: You are confusing yourself, northerners have the richest people in Nigeria/Africa but are the poorest, their wealth starts and ends in their family in has no impact on a common northerner there are millions of almajeri children begging for food to eat
Igbo apprenticeship system is the best in the world without it, igbos would not have made to this level after the civil war, people like obi cubana the whole country is talking about was born just five yrs after the war in 1975 igbos were the poorest ethnic group in Nigeria in 1975 cause the lost everything, Igbo apprenticeship made igbos rich
Wealth transfer of family wealth made a handful of northerners like dangote super rich and it ends there it doesn't benefit an ordinary northerner Where do you think that ''northern domination'' comes from? It comes from them having a bigger base and foundation of wealthy elite than you do. You must expand your elite to expand your political dominance. How do you expand your elite? By sharing your millions of dollars with your family and close kinsmen - empowering them to be as powerful as YOU - rather than banking it in London and pretending to them that that you are broke and struggling, like these Igbo millionaires do. |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 12:02am On Jul 19, 2021 |
Muna4real: What about transfer of wealth within poor families and communities? Them no de una budget? This is why you have Forbes richest men but are still the country's poorest people. For you transfer of wealth is that of rich families, dollars and pounds, leaving millions of northerners to die of poverty. You need to learn from the igbos.
To bring out people from poverty, you need to show them the way. You don't necessarily need to be a big billionaire to do that. You simply bring in someone inexperienced to learn how to survive. By so doing,a large amount of trained youths are brought into the labour market. That's how to help your brother. Not by giving him government appointment. Not by dashing him money. But by teaching him your business. Let me use obi cubana for example. When he started his own business,he had boys like cubana cheif priest and many others watching him. He wasn't a millionaire then. But they grew. Now they are so wealthy together. They wouldn't have become what they are if obi cubana dashed them money or gives the a government job. Do you understand now? You're talking ignorant trash.
If I tell you how many Igbo millionaires and billionaires have died with their money in foreign banks, with no way to retrieve them, because no one in their family knew anything about it, it surpasses trillions of naira. I personally know many Igbos in that situation.
I'm really not here to convince anyone. I'm here to TELL you what goes on. Listen if you like. |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 11:57pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
chikachike86: When reasonable people talk, some slowpoke will open their gutter of a mouth and be spitting thrash. Do you even have a mother? Poverty has killed her since. Foolish monkey. Your prostitute mum is a free giver. She keeps us warm as hell, but when she starts to stink, we shift her to get laid by street dogs. |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 11:55pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
stanluiz: Mumu. Remember to take your drugs in the morning before you run naked enter market. No say I no tell you.
Mentally deranged fellow! Better see your doctor. Monkey! Washed your mum's stinky panties yet?
Damn they STUNK. |
Politics › Re: The Difference Between Igbo Millionaires And Northern Millionaires by rosinkkit(op): 11:47pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
chikachike86: Foolish monkey! You're here talking about generational wealth, while your generational poverty stricken family is rotting somewhere in the North. Die for all I care. Foolish fool. Dude, go wash your mum's panties cos they stink all the way up to here and she's allergic to soap... |