₦airaland Forum

Shymm3xx:
Lol. Wretched son of a crippled village palm wine tapper, you're back again after ya illiterate arse got thorough whooped and shamed on the other thread?

Have you eaten today, you hunger induced anorexic village monkey with rough skin like a lizard and yellow eyes? You're my biitch lool.

Look at this bottom-scratching wretch asking me if I've eaten. I can feed you and your entire family of welfare dependent, Peckham wastrels, you drug addled wanna be white man economic refugee feeling funky while kissing white ass for food. Can you survive one day without your white oppressor's beneficence and pity? Stupid dunce forming big boy with free oyibo grub.

tdayof:
That's not possible. With our navy and air defense systems.

Why are you even responding to that one? In his 10 years on nairaland, he hasn't had one single good thing to say about Nigeria. Search his posts and see. He's in London, and he hates Nigeria with a passion.

Lucasbalo:
I bet you 99% of the guys jiving here on nairaland are not American.

...hardly a surprise since it's a Nigerian website... Abi u drink?

obixcel:
Your quote,"Trump is a warmonger" well if someone is to be elected his track records has to be examined. Between Trump and Hillary from records, who has d tendency to be a warmonger? Remember d Benghazi/Libya/Syria Fiasco dat led to ISIS?, OR The Iraq war dat Hillary supported? As once a secretary of State, Hillary's fingers were in all of this. So who's d warmonger?

Trump asked intelligence officials 3 times in a briefing why the US was building nuclear weapons if it was not prepared to use them. In an interview with Chris Matthews of NBC, he refused to rule out using nuclear weapons, including in Europe! Is this the madman you want as the most powerful man in the world? What is wrong with you? You don't care about your life? Your family?

Shymm3xx:
Lol, a lot of them don't understand the projection of power (soft and hard) and regional politics. Hence I always laugh when folks label Nigeria as the "giant of Africa" due to just population alone. If it were that easy - India and China ought to be the giant of the world then lol.

As a country, even for national security, your military has to be as strong as the military of countries within ya region/axis. Africa is a region/axis in international politics, while West Africa is a sub-region. Let's say a war kicks off between Nigeria and any of these other countries - how's Nigeria going to protect/defend itself against external aggression from any of them, with these obsolete hardware?

Nigeria is just big for nothing, even in Africa. Yet some people think western countries are scared of Nigeria - hysterical. Militarily - it's one of the most backward in Africa. In terms of institutions - it's one of the most backward in Africa. Ditto development index and financially. It's just sad.

Did you just say that Nigeria was militarily one of the most backward in Africa? Cocaine sniffing London goat. Just shut your stupid mouth and return to your toilet washing duties in London. Ewu.

divinehand2003:
You have a point there but if you've been to Tinapa recently, you would then realize that this is another money wasting white elephant project that won't bless the lives of the masses. The dreams of having Tinapa back then when the construction began has been dashed. Most of the stores are empty, no visitors anymore. Why bother wasting more cash on an investment that won't yield returns.

But a major reason for the low turnout at Tinapa was the poor transport links, which the monorail helps solve. Watch the place pick up now.

Meanwhile, like joke like joke, the country is slowly developing into a place with some decent infrastructure here and there... The Abuja-Kaduna rail network being a case in point.

divinehand2003:
I don't think this project will benefit the poor masses in any way.

Anything that boosts tourism in a place is very good for the locals. Who will be the tour guides, the food providers, the drinks sellers, the taxi drivers, the railway staff, the receptionists, etc, that will be catering to tourists? Is it not the locals?

saintkel:
Bro dis was made locally by Nigerians, isn't that good news?. Must we always compare ourselves with d western world?, remember they started like us back then, if only we continue, I see a lot of improvement

Exactly. The key in life is to start from somewhere. You will gradually advance. See how the navy built NNS Andoni, a gunboat, a few years ago. Now they've just completed another one that is bigger and longer than Andoni. Who knows where they will be in the next 10 years? Or 20 years?

xreal:
Is marijuana legal in Jamaica?

I know Davido is buying the fish at a public place.
Is it the fish seller or a member if Davido's crew having marijuana in his hand?

Bro, Jamaica is a funny place. Officially, weed is illegal, but you'll be walking down the street . and you'll be smelling the stuff coming from different houses/backyards etc... I've been there... Beautiful country by the way.

Bro, to even be on that field of the last 8 countries in the Olympics relay shows we are a major athletics power. Do you know how many countries there are in the world? Nearly 300! And we're in the top 8. And you're saying they should ban us from the next Olympics? Bros chill abeg..

babydioku:
Rubbish

What exactly is ''rubbish'' about what was posted?

What do you disagree with precisely?

Lexusgs430:
No point reacting. Does Nigeria have the type of capital to prepare for the Olympics or better put, is Nigeria ready to invest in sports to win medals?
Great Britain invested £350,000,000 each year for four years preparing for the Rio Olympics. That is £350,000,000*4= (do the calculations).
Is Nigeria ready?

But how much did Jamaica spend?

Dude is probably on something like £50,000 a week now.

Akalia:
And this is a man without any formal educational certification.

No wonder the Bible says in proverbs 18:16 'A man's gift makes room for him. And brings him before great men.'

I'm not a great fan of the bible, but those are words of wisdom right there. The Proverbs verse lends credence to the Igbo-Hebrew connection. It is very similar to the ancient Igbo proverb which says that "a child who washes his hands will eat with kings".

I actually think tourism will increase dramatically in the country if we could just get this one thing right. Many of our neighborhoods can compete with the best in the world if their roads had sidewalks and covered drains. No tourist wants to come to a country where you can't step out of your hotel to walk on a clean pavement to look around the city, instead of strolling in mud and sand beside open gutters. You can have as many tourist attractions as you like, but if you don't get the pedestrian infrastructure right, nobody will come here.

mensdept:
But he is right though. They have a country, and we pretend we have a country. They sing in a European tongue their anthem and we...we too sing in a European tongue our anthem.

So from the very foundation we are backwards and as a "people" centuries behind. No wonder we struggle to do very basic things

Inferiority complex? There's nothing "right" about that. If you feel inferior, go and commit suicide rather than spreading your poisonous inferiorization disease among normal people.

8BitGee:
There are still street sweepers. It is just less of a chore.

Sure, we know...

Jorussia:
Walkways and covered drains are a regular feature in all the roads governor oshiomhole has built in Benin city since he became governor.

Including the inner roads? Not just highways.

Shym3xx:
Lol. Shut ya gob, you still haven't countered any of my points and you keep taking Ls from post to post. You're my perpetual biitch.

Nah, you sound like a religious wingnut, albeit you're more of a frustrated, deranged, and rabid ultra-nationalist. Hence I cited your ilk who're religious wingnuts in my post cos you lot are all suffering from mental slavery.

King Sunny Ade is ever-green. I went to a naij party recently and they played a lot of his music. Heck, rapper Wale's biggest influence is King Sunny Ade. How many of the crappy afrobeats tunes would stand the test of time? That's the difference between great music and shitty mockery.

Well, I call white Brits culture vultures all the time, hence I think Adele, Sam Smith, Ed Sheeran, and even Coldplay are grossly overrated and culture vultures. I won't even buy their albums for 50p on sale. White people don't even have a music culture or any decent natural culture, so they're ya ultimate culture vultures and they're comfortable in that box. Also, country music has black origins and white people in America have no culture, hence they're comfortable in being culture vultures.

But what would you say about African folks with a deep/rich culture ditching their own culture to become culture vultures like white folks who have no culture? Mental slavery.

Give up, you've been smacked around like a little biitch.

Mr African with deep rich culture. What have you been doing living in London for 45 years if you are so much in love with your African roots? Why don't you become a real African instead of living thousands of miles away from Africa, and dictating to Africans how to live, from London? The person who sold you the idea that African music will forever be drums and chants, and owambe, you need to go to them for a refund, cos they sold you a lemon. Dummy dum dum.

Shym3xx:
Lol. You sound like a lunatic and that's the problem with ultra-nationalists like you: you hate the bitter truth even when it's all over ya face. Modernisation isn't about making a mockery of other people's culture, while neglecting what's quintessentially yours - it's about bringing the nucleus of ya own culture into the contemporary world, to create a unique identity and a niche for yourself others can embrace. Ya type are like those clowns slaving to white Jesus while thinking mental slavery in religion is modernity - hysterical. And that's why Africa has stagnated in growth for 500 years now.

Those talking drums and flutes you hate are the same instruments that make people gravitate towards South American culture and the reason why people adore Brazilian samba. In case you don't know, African drum is one of the best sellers in the world cos you can't replicate the magic that comes with those drums. Heck, they tried with 808 and failed woefully. That's also the reason why Fela Kuti's music is being taught across the globe today as the creation of a genius the world got to know very late.

Bang bang noise isn't African, just as ya white Jesus and Arab Mohammed aren't African. Wake up, lost black man. African music has rhythm - that rubbish noise isn't African.

Kindly leave Jesus and co out if this cos I don't care for world religions either. Again, your argument is baseless and judgemental. You cannot dictate to Africans the musical tastes they ought to have. There is a REASON King Sunny Ade and co are no longer the standard bearers in African music. It is the same reason English folk music has given way to hard rock. Go and attack the English for abandoning their traditional tunes in favour of Coldplay. Go attack the Yanks for abandoning the country music of Jim Reeves in droves to hug Eminem, Snoop Dogg, and Dre. Attack Jamaicans for abandoning Roots Reggae for Dancehall. After you attack them, then you can face Africa.

Shym3xx:
Blues isn't a mockery of Malian folk ballads - it's reinvention of an African sound by slaves who were denied their culture. The same can't be said about the so-called afrobeats cos it's a deliberate bad copy.

Hip-hop/rap never made mockery of anything...it's a new genre created from nothing to relay street tales. And it was all inclusive for all black cultures when it started, with Caribbean and African components being its primary source. That right there negates the notion that it's a mockery of any old African American genres, since its primary influence at the beginning had little to do with AA culture. If there's any AA influence hip-hop at the beginning, it definitely has to be the five percenters, since a lot of their slangs got into hip-hop early and bits of blues and rock. R&B got into hip-hop in the 90s. Also, don't forget hip-hop also has 5 different elements: MCing, Bboying, Graffiti, DJing, and Knowledge. So how's it a mockery of anything? Which other genre of music has these elements?

Now let's look at the only three songs by afrobeats artists that have made international charts to show you how much of a mockery afrobeats is:

Dbanj - Oliver Twist
The tune became big due to the use of "Oliver Twist" who's an urban legend in British culture and also due to the notoriety of the great Charles Dickens. It has nothing to do with the sound. After it got big in the UK due to the nostalgic feelings about Oliver Twist and cos the UK is mecca of music in Europe, the rest of Europe caught the bug. If he had used a next name apart from "Oliver Twist", it would've been a dud like all the other afrobeats tunes.


Drake ft Kyla and Wizkid - One Dance
This is a classic UK sound. Drake just lifted Kyla's "Do you mind" and added his own lyrics to it. And his star-power pushed it to where it got. Wizkid didn't add zilch to it, albeit he may have written Drake's verse. But the sound isn't afrobeats - it's UK's garage.


Tinie Tempah ft Wizkid - Mamacita
This sounds like South America music and you can replace Wizkid with Carlos Santana and you'll get the same sound, hence they shot the video in Brazil. Nothing about it is afrobeats, apart from Wizkid being on it and mimicking South American sound.


Heck, I'd say Wizkid's biggest hit to me, apart from "Ojuelegba" which sounds like a proper Fela Kuti tune, is: "Tease me". And "Tease me" has a Caribbean feel to it and the sound is Caribbean.

You can see that there's zero originality in afrobeats and everything is basic and a mockery, hence no one wants to work with ya guy?

Your problem is you see Africa through the eyes of a colonialist white guy. Such people abhor modern Africa, with its brash, unpredictable, cosmopolitan dynamism. For them, the 'real' Africa is static, traditionalist, unchanging. Zebras, huts, and chiefs. They resent African modernisation, and see it as a bastardization of their romanticised 'ideal'. That is why you cannot see "anything African" about music that isn't drowning in call and response, ukeleles, flutes, and talking drums. Those sounds you mentioned above...there's Africa in them, if you choose to see things through the eyes of a modern, 21st century African.

Shym3xx:
Listen, I'm not dictating to no one, just exposing the lies. His beats are basic, hence no American artist wants to work with him, period. I seldom even post comments on afrobeats apart from artists that I like: Dbanj, Davido, and Burnaboy and perhaps, recently, Wizkid. And sometimes when they're using Fela Kuti's music for their rubbish. I don't listen to the crappy noise cos they're always all over the place. That's basically the same thing I do with US music. I don't listen to certain artists and I stay away from anything about them, unless it's a general topic.

Nothing has evolved - the so-called "afrobeats" (it's a pity they had to name the crappy sound after the greatness of Fela) is a bad copy of hip-hop music with an African feel to it, not an evolution. For example: when soul music evolved, it became neo-soul. And when garage music evolved in the UK, it became grime. What did this crappy sound evolve from? It definitely didn't evolve from Fela Kuti's afrobeats.

With African Americans, the evolution of all their genres of music stayed the same, unless you want to include the white culture vultures. And hip-hop didn't evolve from any of the traditional African American music genre - it's a new genre that was created of the streets of New York by African Americans and Caribbeans, with a lot of African influence. MCing/DJing are Jamaican and the dubs they used at the beginning were mostly Caribbean, with some jazz and soul. So you can't really tag hip-hop with any old genre of music. The same can't be said about this so-called "afrobeats" which is a bang bang copy of hip-hop.

Jazz, country, rock, blues, soul, hip-hop/R&B/rap, house music etc. are African American music with origins in Africa and they have all remained the same, apart from white culture vultures who're making a mockery of these genres cos they don't understand the culture, just as Nigerians are making a mockery of both hip-hop and African sound. Soca, bashment, reggae, calypso et al are Caribbean sounds with origins in Africa and they've all remained the same. Why's Nigeria different?

Shallow and overly judgemental argument. This and that person is making a "mockery" of this and that music.... Dude, every genre that emerges is making a "mockery" of older genres that influenced it. Hip hop is making a "mockery" of R&B whose beats it ripped. Remember the Sugarhill Gang? Theirs was the first rap hit, and it was a straight up R&B jam ('Good Times' by Chic) topped with what was then a load of noise to most people. But it caught on, and led to the huge rap scene of today. The Blues are a "mockery" of old Malian folk ballads, while rock music stole heavily from the Blues. Yet you expect African music to remain static. Not gonna happen.

Shym3xx:
Rose the dyke my perpetual biitch and son, I'm not dictating. I'm a fan of music and I'm also African. And yes, I did play around with hip-hop/grime when I growing up. So I understand music.

The guy made a preposterous claim and it's my duty to critique him and expose his lies cos I'm a fan of music. He should just agree that he's rubbish, hence no one wants to work with him. Not even Wale and Jidenna who're infusing African sounds in their music.

And hell yes, I know what the real African sound is: the African drums and rhythm don't lie. Africa is the origin of almost all genres of music. So anything coming out of the continent has to be in its pure and undiluted form. Hence the likes of Fela and Youssou N'Dour are legends.

Sorry, but you don't get to dictate how African music should evolve, least of all from faraway London. Africa is a very dynamic place, and the infusion of various influences like R&B and hip hop over the last 35 - 40 years has led to African tastes evolving to the modern sound of today, propagated by the likes of Don Jazzy and co. If you released a Fela type, sax-filled jam today in the African market, it would likely flop. The market has evolved. You don't say to black Americans, "Your music must sound like James Brown, BB King or Nat King Cole to be real black music". Don't try it with Africans either.

Shym3xx:
Lol, you're an idiot. Ripping people off with basic beats and getting cocky about it isn't something to be proud of.

Real black men do things to uplift their culture, not by being a vulture.

Afrobeats as it's doesn't even really represent the true sound of Africa. It's a crappy sub-genre of hip-hop with an African feel to it.

Fela Kuti - that's African.

Youssou N'Dour - that's African.

I don't know about the other noise.

What the hell is "the true sound of Africa"? Africa has over 1 billion people in 55 countries, and is home to more variety of sounds than anywhere on the planet. You don't sit in London dictating what the modern "African sound" should be or not be. That's for Africans in Africa to decide, you arrogant twit.

Shym3xx:
Rossikki

Rose the dyke, ya pops send this picture to me the last time I spoke to him:



He said that's ya childhood pic.

I know life has been unfair to you thus far and you went from that to be the ultimate loser in life and my perpetual biitch on the internet.

Life's harsh - let it out, bum.

You're my biitch and I'll destroy you.

Posting the picture of a poor African kid to laugh and mock, just shows your level of moral depravity. Slave in a white man's land having the audacity to insult Don Jazzy, a real black man making his millions in a black country without having to kiss white butt like you. Cotton-picking motherfuck.er.

Shym3xx:
Rossikki the Rose the dyke, how's ya crippled father?

I've got some expired food to send you lot.

Keep embarrassing yourself you hear? Old man acting like a teenager.

VictorRomanov:
You re like the only person who took time to read through his reasons and understood it.

The rest of the contributors just talked without reading or even thinking. My fear is a that a great majority happen to reason like this.


You re rare.

He's not alone boss. Yours truly also got Don Jazzy's drift.

Shym3xx:
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Frustrated bum, I'm everything ya father wished he was. You'll die wretched and frustrated on the internet.

Rose the dyke, the anorexic son of a village palm wine tapper with crocodile skin, yellow eyes, two left legs.

Have you eaten today, you bum?

Who gave you permission to go online? Better go and complete your toilet washing duties before your white boss whups your immigrant butt.

Shym3xx:
Lol. This guy is a clown.

Why would they be scared when afrobeats (not the original one by Fela Kuti that's Jazz influenced - the modern noisy one) is a derivative of hip-hop, albeit with some African drums sometimes and African language?

The loops for his beats are very similar to hip-hop since hip-hop is base of afrobeats, although the bpm for afrobeats is a tad higher then hip-hop. They aren't scared of techno and house music that have far higher bpms than afrobeats yet they're scared of ya shitty one dimensional beats - hysterical. A lot US rappers, even Drake, have jumped on grime beats and, grime has the highest bpm at 140.

Ya beats are shiit, hence they don't want to work with you. They just don't want to disrespectful you to ya face. If they can sample Fela Kuti's beats as often as they do - then no is scared of ya shitty beats.

This clown is so full of himself.

His "shitty beats" have helped create a revolution in modern African music that has drawn in hundreds of millions of new fans from Africa and across the globe, while a useless London goat like you sits in the UK washing toilets for oyibo and feeling funky. Asswipe.

Yomieluv:
the worst form of thing in life is lying to oneself..

Don J, dey there dey mumu yourself..

Shut up and use your brain. Don Jazzy is saying the Americans are reluctant to experiment too much so as not to alienate their own fans. What he said makes perfect sense.

Heromaniaa:
Before you criticize Nigeria, ask yourself, in your profession are you better than Germans, if there was a competition, programmers, scientists, doctors, engineers, mathematicians, scholars, pilots, soldiers, lawyers, terrorists... Can you defeat the average German? If you know you can't then you have no reason criticizing these Nigerian players. We are messed up as as a people. Rigmaroling through our problems, never solving it. I won't criticise the team. It is a generational problem. We no reach!

Inferiority complex.