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OgundeleT:
Bring out the concrete prove and not Jewish fairy tales

What Jewish tales? All corners of the world, including yours, have stories of ancient human interaction with powerful alien beings who came to be worshipped as 'gods'. All traditional religions believe humans are immortal spirits in a temporary human body. These ancient beliefs are now being proven right by inter alia, the phenomenon of near-death experiences and a variety of psychic phenomena from across the globe.

OgundeleT:
that is how they always take fantasy for reality. a guy told me the same thing 2days ago on whatsapp chat that i was created and i said no i was born. He said he was disappointed in me because i didn't believe i was created.

Of course you are right. You were born into this world, not 'created'. Humans are spirits or souls who occupy a temporal human body. The body expires - what we call 'death', and the soul, ie Consciousness, departs. So the human body is what was 'created', possibly by more advanced physical entities whom we came to regard as 'gods', and 'God', based on the ancient stories of their early interactions with mankind. The body is just a vehicle that allows souls to experience physical existence in this dimension. I am no atheist. I believe the souls are individual droplets of the Supreme Being. The Supreme Soul. We are God experiencing life in trillions of individual life forms and beings. We are all immortal, because God cannot die.

This Supreme Soul is generally not the one being referred to in the 'major' world religions, who essentially invented their own 'God' - a capricious, vengeful killer who sends humans to eternal torture for not worshiping him, and has a list of 'commandments'. This, I believe, is the 'God', that most 'atheists' reject. And who can blame them?

Elohim1:
21st Century Nd U Still Believe This Lie!! Educate Ur Self Google Is Free

He has no brain. Don't expect him to be sensible. Even the white people that gave them the bible are rejecting the book based on its numerous lies and contradictions. But will our colonised dullards here use their heads? Nope. Their brains are only there for decoration.

shamecurls:
Better to be an Atheist than believe in those scam called Christianity and Islam.

Be rest assured that you re of the very few reasonable people who have refused to believe that men from the Middle-East re re Prophets to Africans #OutrightFoolishness. Believing a man in the middle east died for your sins in Africa




Simple colonization tool

Don't mind these dumb, colonised Nigerians. Ask them if they've ever researched the bible or Christianity to know its origins and intent, and you'll be met with a blank stare. Just ignorant, stupi.d, dumb, and colonised. Pathetic people. I really pity the OP. My advice to him is to hurry up and leave that house. When you are in your own house, nobody can tell you what to believe or not believe. And if they try, you kick their butt out of your property.

sheunsheun:
I don't blame you, its your parents fault, if they had perform their duties the way the Bible ask them. You wouldn't have turned out this way

Proverb 22:6

Oh shut up. Brainwashed man.

CONFAMA:
nice thread...

Thanks.

Boring:
reading tru the comment on dis thread, one will assume everyone on NL is poor and in need of mad a$$ money....everybody praying for money dis, money dat... smh

True.. and to think that she got her money by being Mrs Abacha's hairdresser or something. The then first lady apparently dashed her an oil block. Nobody is even asking about that one on this thread. Everyone is like, ''I must get mine too''. Lost people.

JohnsonOlanre:
Wetin we wan use those muslim racists do?
I really think Arab contries of northern africa should have no business calling themselves Africans. They are not, so they should face the ever volatile middle east.

lol

ugohemma:
park well. u must have stayed in Lagos and Abuja for too long..travel go village u hear

Mr Village. 90% of the wealth in those SE villages comes from Igbos working in other parts of Nigeria. The same Nigeria you want to break out of like a he-goat.

kherington:
If what you are doing here is keeping nigeria as one you are doing a fantastic job keep it up

You're welcome bro.

kherington:
say no to ethnic bigots and tribalists one nigeria

That's what I've been doing, abi you no fit read?

kherington:
You just vindicated me mischief maker may God have mercy on you while some of us are praying for peace people like you are looking for ways to destroy this country God bless nigeria and I approve this post

How is seeking to keep Nigeria one 'destroying the country'? Some of you here sef... are you sure you're not on strong drinks?

InyinyaAgbaOku:
Talking to you is just like giving a goat scholarship.
See how he calls names, typical of a zoogenerian

After you threatened my family, you spear-chucking, tribalistic pea brain.

I bet you have raffia palms around your fat asss.

IAmTobore:
They keep calling themselves "China of Africa", and i keep wondering what they've ever invented. Even the mallams event better than them. All i see for their Biafra is "Lesotho in the making". Them no know say the name Nigeria is a blessing to who ever bears it all over the world. Infact, they don't think at all. Why can't we take advantage of our size and diversity to oppress other African countries?

Actually, the Chinese haven't invented much of late... What they've done is 'replicate' what is out there, at lower cost, and in vast quantities. Igbos will thrive if they do this in the Nigerian context. Nigeria has leverage that can help them cut trade deals which a small 'Biafra' cannot. Can Togo or Sierra Leone cut international deals with the major powers? Or even with middle powers? For where? Their own is to take orders from the IMF, World bank etc. If they step out of line, those organisations will shut down their economies the next day. That is the level 'Biafra' would be on.

InyinyaAgbaOku:
You are irredeemable.
It's your family's turn next.

Typical response of a thoughtless, brainless, reckless, rudderless, planless, feckless, ignorant, spear-chucking, tribalistic air head.

kherington:
This op should stop causing mischief what do you stand to gain by opening this thread in case you don't know wole soyinka gani fawhemi are among the biggest igbo supporters did you know that soyinka was jailed for supporting biafra

This debate is beyond your level of reasoning. Kindly return to what you were doing before you joined this thread.

ugohemma:
sister or brother ur argument is baseless. go to angola and see what a country can do if they have same aspiration. u must have lived in lagos or abuja too long, its natural to think that way

What is this one talking about? Angola is a multi-ethnic country. They've been through all sorts of civil wars and conflicts. Now they realise there is no other way but to join forces and move their nation forward. Their three major ethnic groups are the Kikongo, the Chokwe, and the Umbundu. They all have their differences and periodic quarrels/rivalries etc. But you will never see any of them saying they want to secede from Angola. In fact, you have no right to mention Angola in your Biafra talk. They have sense. You don't.

InyinyaAgbaOku:
You are the clueless one here.
How has Nigeria treated igbos so far? Herdsmen, bokoharam, etc?
See you talking about nigeria maltreating us when they are yet to deal with the foreigners here.
Igbos have markets everywhere and igbo businesses are actually safest in Igboland and other parts of the world that are not Nigeria.
All the burning of igbo shops and harrassment by locals, don't happen much in UK, Ghana than it happens in Nigeria.
Carry your ignorance and shift.
Don't pity us, enjoy your Nigeria alone

How many Igbos have been killed by Fulani herdsmen or Boko Haram, to make you abandon billions of dollars in investment and a 200 million strong market? Burning of Igbo shops and harassment of Igbos.. how often? And how can you be so daft as to not realise that such incidents will multiply a hundred-fold once you legally become foreigners in Nigeria? See? All emotion, no sense. Your secessionism is driven, not by rational economic analysis or geopolitical calculations, but by blind ethnic hatred. Hence your new nation is a calamity waiting to happen. I actually can't wait.

InyinyaAgbaOku:
No we will become Singapore not sudan.

I like the way e dey pain you. See name callings all the time.
Nigerians should first start victimizing the lebanese, Indians, chinese, exploiting them in their lands first before doing anything to igbos.
Igbo investments in Ghana, USA, UK, etc are too much too.
Division doesn't mean loss of investments. Stay in Nigeria when biafra comes please. We won't need your ilk

You will become Singapore? Do you have any clue how Singapore came to become a developed economy? How they and a few other Asian states were granted special, unrestricted access to western markets and capital after WW2, to help create capitalist bulwarks in Asia to counter rampant communism? What comparable impetus will drive them to grant Biafra similar benefits to catapault its economy? Africa was long ago designated by them as a source of raw materials, and nothing else. Trade barriers are in place. That won't change because you declared Biafra. Even within Africa, countries are erecting protectionist policies to guard their local industries. So the only real market Igbos have access to is the Nigerian market. A 200 million strong market. Pure gold for an industrious people. And that, you want to run away from. The very definition of economic suicide. Your Biafran movement needs more intellectuals, and less Onitsha traders. You have no clue how the world operates.

InyinyaAgbaOku:
I am a foreigner in Ghana, cameroun, UK, USA, etc.
Have I died?
The people that died from boko haram are no better than those mishandled by south african police.
Your so called lagos and abuja people have mishandled your peope too.
Who told you division will make one not to leave his enclave? You are too timid and naive for this topic.
Is Enugu not a good flexing spot before?
Ewu

Dummy, unlike Ghana, Cameroun, UK, your people have helped build Nigeria, and have billions of dollars invested in it. And millions of your people depend on access to the Nigerian market for their survival and prosperity. And no, Nigeria will NEVER allow Igbos to settle and prosper in Nigeria if they secede. They will do everything to frustrate you. If you think they won't, you're the biggest fool on the planet. You want to keep your yam for yourself while sharing theirs with them, correct? Mr Sense. Try it.

The Biafran movement is full of thoughtless, planless dreamers like you who think the world owes you a living. I just wish you can get your silly secession dream, so we can all laugh as you turn South Sudan 2, or some other benighted banana republic.

InyinyaAgbaOku:
Who doesn't know Rossikki on this forum as the anti igbo monicker.
Dont worry, you will join them in Nigeria when we get biafra

I'm not anti-Igbo. I'm anti-foolishness. Look at you. Olodo. Desperate to become a foreigner in Naija. A foreigner in Abuja. A foreigner in Lagos. No more flexing there. If you do too much they'll kick your butt out....like South African police handle your ilk. You can only flex in Aba and Enugu. Desperate to become small. A local champion. Tufiakwa.

HurtgenForest:
You are a curse to Igbos on this forum. If Nigeria breaks, you can swallow rat poison if you like.

Thanks. I heartily advise the very same remedy for you in the event it doesn't break.

chinwezdasilva:
how old are u?

Old enough.

HurtgenForest:
Rossiki, your argument is baseless and dead on arrival. Wole Soyinka did not start supporting Biafra today, he supported Biafra during the war and was even locked up prison. You have failed already, try again.


You are free to commit suicide if you so wish.


God bless Wole Soyinka, we respect him.

You're so dumb you'll be singing the same tune as Kongi's kids are Harvesting your abandoned trillions.

You 'respect' him because he strokes your tribalist ego.

He supported Biafra in the 60s probably because he wanted rid of the Igbos anyway - as they presented serious competition for his people in the then new nation. The Yoruba intelligentsia have always felt threatened by Igbo dynamism.

If Soyinka thinks Nigeria is such a failed project, why has he never ever suggested Yorubas should secede?

But the minute Igbos announce secessionist intent, he is always the first to declare support.

HurtgenForest:
No price is too much to pay for our children to be free. In Nigeria the hausa/fulani is the owner and first class citizen, this is unacceptable.

Your children will be serfs like the children of Sierra Leone, Liberia, Togo, Gambia, South Sudan, and other tiny, unviable mini-states on our continent who take their daily orders from London, Washington, Paris, Abuja, and Pretoria. When the president of Uganda visits you, it would be as if the US president came, so insignificant you would have become. Your children would beg Nigeria for access to her huge market. The US, EU and Asia will not grant you access to their markets. Of that you can be sure. Before you know it, social strife arising from unfulfilled promises of a Biafran utopia, and/or competition over resources, would send you spiralling down the road of conflict. Conflicts are so much easier to start in small banana republics.

HurtgenForest:
It will not be easy for a start but things will take shape with time.


How can our children grow up in a country where they cannot aspire to be president?

What is the big deal in being president? How many Jews have been president in the US? Yet they they dominate the US economy - finance, technology, entertainment, law, etc etc. They are the richest people in the US. Their interests dictate US internal and foreign policy. You cannot have a president elected in the US today who is not supportive of Israel. They've positioned themselves as kingmakers in the US. These days they don't even want to be president. Why bring unnecessary attention to yourself? Why take the can when things go awry? They even look down on the presidency... they see it as a boy boy job. A front man merely enforcing the dictates of the higher ups, ie Them.

That is the sort of dominance Igbos are equipped to achieve in Nigeria. But rather than face that, they are busying crying over whether one of them was made or not made president. ONE MAN. As if the Igbo president will remember any of them when he achieves power. What else but to enrich himself and his family like the others? And then based on this ''mistreatment'', they want to retreat into a tiny, insignificant country with a much smaller market - economic insanity for an entrepreneurial people, as recently realised by the British, who now regret bitterly their Brexit vote.

In today's world, surival and prosperity are all about market access. There are many ethnic groups in Africa and beyond that would KILL to take the place of Igbos in Nigeria. They would lick their lips at the economic prospects of such instant and free access to Africa's largest consumer market and economy. But Igbos? They've been spoilt. They've come to take the huge 200 million Nigerian market freely available to them for granted. Let them leave. Their eyes will open.

Wow... If true, it just confirms what some of us already knew - that there is no such thing as death. Only transition.

MasterJayJay:
If exit means exit, why are there Chinese in Nigeria? Why are there Americans in Nigeria?

You are painting a picture of a 'country' that no single foreigner will be allowed to reside. That ain't gonna happen.

Don't be daft. How many Chinese or Americans reside in Nigeria? We are talking millions of Igbos in Lagos alone.... Damn....I can see the police having a field day with Igbo foreigners lacking residency papers....If you think Igbos have a hard time now, just imagine the situation when they become by law, foreigners, in Nigeria.

The British voted to leave the EU. Their reasons were remarkably similar to Biafran agitators' - the corruption in Brussels, loss of sovereignty to a federal European authority etc etc....Today, following the devastating result of Brexit, which has led to the collapse of the Pound Sterling, and numerous companies leaving Britain, with recession and job losses widely expected to follow, the British voters are regretting their actions, and 4 million signatures have been gathered demanding their govt orders a recasting of the vote.

MasterJayJay:
If you really claim to be knowledgeable, then you should have known that secession doesn't mean "go back to your fatherland".

Hahahahahahaha....Keep dreaming. If you think Igbos will secede, but will still be allowed to live and prosper in Nigeria in their millions, as is presently the case, you are suffering from severe delusion. You must think you are in Switzerland or something. This is Africa. Exit means Exit.

MadamExcellency:
Ross, I trust Buhari more than you in matters that have to do with Ndigbo let alone reading or taking advice from you.

You are too dangerous to advice against anybody let alone Professor Soyinka

Na wa o....Madam...wetin I do u? You don't know Soyinka is playing you 4 mugu? Dey dia nah...

Tell me something. Do you think Soyinka would support Biafra if its actualisation would damage the SW?

No?

OK. Do you think he would support Biafra if its actualisation would benefit the SW?

Kongi's Harvest

Esteemed writer and Nobel Laureate, Wole Soyinka, has been in the news recently, for stating he supports the agitation for Biafra. Could it be because he sees the huge economic bounty that would land on his people's laps, when Igbos foolishly abandon their billions of dollars of investments and properties in the SW, to form their tiny country?

Kongi is very smart. He did not win the Nobel prize for nothing. Igbos should analyse his statements very well before they start praising him for 'understanding' their plight.

One can easily imagine Soyinka, Tinubu, and other SW leaders, sitting and smiling with glee around steaming hot bowls of Amala and Efo riro, as they discuss their unbelievable good fortune arising from the Igbos' departure. No doubt, top of their discussions would be devising legal stipulations that would make it virtually impossible for Igbos to transfer their wealth to their newly independent nation, even as they are physically hounded out of the SW.

When that starts to happen, Kongi will be silent, as they reap the Harvest.