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Damn it! HOW DID YOU GUYS COMMENT BEFORE ME?

TheDauraMallam:
I had the complete copy of the book for over 2 years. I've read and reread it numerous times.

Are you satisfied now or you still need a copy of the book?
https://www.biblicalnonsense.com/newcover.jpg

This explains a lot.
Of course a doubting christian would read this and lose faith.

I dont need a copy, thanks for offering.

A DOSE OF COMMON SENSE

First of, when discussing Godly matters, we cannot view things from a 'common sense' point of view. God is spirit and defies "human' logic which grows with discovery and so is infantile in its reasoning. Trying to decipher the spiritual using logic or common sense is an attempt in futility. Afterall, we a re talking of a diety that created the world in six days. How humanly logical is that? And yet your precious evolution theory still has so many holes it leaks like a sieve.

Having said that let's proceed.

God is omnipotent and omniscient. That in itself can be terribly boring. Knowing everything before it happens, knowing all that was, is, and will be. That would be a terrible existence from where I'm standing. So God creates something scholars have not been able to fathom for centuries.

Free will.

Its like rolling a dice. Its like an exam with multiple choice questions. Its CHANCE. its fun. Its what I would do if I were god.
Free will enables you to have a fresh outlook on things. You allow your creation make choices wothout your interference. So you dont know if he is going to make the right hoice or the wrong onem but you already know the outcome of whatever choice he chooses. So you remain omniscient either way. Comprende?

God gave man free will and man messed up. He would have destroyed the world and started again outright but God found righteousness in Noah and decided to spare him. Hopefully the next generation of humans after Noah would fare better.
Unfortunately they didnt.

Yeah God drowned kids and animals. That is why He is to be feared.

The Ark was made of wood. No preservatives. On a mountain. For millenia. It would have decayed away to dust by now. Or it might have been torn down for firewood on the cold mountains.

Even if oral accounts of an event can undergo drastic changes (compare gilgamesh account and biblical account), it still contains some elements of truth.



OBSERVABLE FACTS IN ANY DAY AND AGE
Again:

The Epic of Gilgamesh is contained on twelve large tablets, and since the original discovery, it has been found on others, as well as having been translated into other early languages.7 The actual tablets date back to around 650 B.C. and are obviously not originals since fragments of the flood story have been found on tablets dated around 2,000 B.C.8 Linguistic experts believe that the story was composed well before 2,000 B.C. compiled from material that was much older than that date⁹.[size=14pt] The Sumerian cuneiform writing has been estimated to go as far back as 3,300 B.C.[/size] ¹⁰

The Titanic was one of the biggest ships ever built. It was built may 31st 1911. Before then it was considered impossible by science to build such a huge ship.

The tower of babel is an opinion of the author, not scientific fact. End of.

This is total rubbish, the rantings of a disgruntled atheist.

I would have coontinued but i honestly do not have the time.
Suffice it to say that science doesnt have all the answers and scientists should be humble enough to admit this.

johnydon22:
So something happened years ago, the ancients saw it and somehow new civilizations that emerged long after the alleged period of this event wrote about it...

And somehow the Egptians being one of the world oldest civilizations never saw it..

The ancients saw and then out of all the ancients that saw it, they agreed to write that only one man and his family survived; In Mesopotamian version: Gilgamesh.

Yeah and somehow the Jews, hindus worked their own version of the story 1000years after the Sumerians.

Again:

The Epic of Gilgamesh is contained on twelve large tablets, and since the original discovery, it has been found on others, as well as having been translated into other early languages.⁷ The actual tablets date back to around 650 B.C. and are obviously not originals since fragments of the flood story have been found on tablets dated around 2,000 B.C.8 Linguistic experts believe that the story was composed well before 2,000 B.C. compiled from material that was much older than that date.⁹ The Sumerian cuneiform writing has been estimated to go as far back as 3,300 B.C. [sup]10[/sup]

johnydon22:
The flood myth was passed from one civilization to the other. . Different time frames and reworked into the culture of the new civilization... Need i remind you that supernatural occurrence into consideration when determining historical fact....Till date there is no archeological evidence for a world wide flood.

Wat do you call the sudden demise of all the dinosaurs and their bones so well preserved as if they all died in an instant?

Actually this revokes it, when a particular story is reworked in different cultures at different time frames with different cultural representation and the story is based unproven event.

NO, it reinforces it. If everybody saw something they might write it vis different perspectives but the meat of the story will remain the same. And as per your line of thought I repeat what i posted to you earlier:

From the early days of the comparative study of these two flood accounts, it has been generally agreed that there is an obvious relationship. The widespread nature of flood traditions throughout the entire human race is excellent evidence for the existence of a great flood from a legal/historical point of view

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It is a scholarly consensus that the flood story is a blatant myth. . . It is stipulated the flood story happened 2348B.C yet they egyptian Pyramids were built 2560Bc downwards. . why did this great global flood seem not to affect the Egyptian civilization or the pyramids?

Again:

The Epic of Gilgamesh is contained on twelve large tablets, and since the original discovery, it has been found on others, as well as having been translated into other early languages.7 The actual tablets date back to around 650 B.C. and are obviously not originals since fragments of the flood story have been found on tablets dated around 2,000 B.C.8 Linguistic experts believe that the story was composed well before 2,000 B.C. compiled from material that was much older than that date.9 The Sumerian cuneiform writing has been estimated to go as far back as 3,300 B.C. ¹⁰ ]

Knowledge is ever increasing. Thats why I like science, scientists should actually be the most open-minded people in the world, its pride that makes them come to a conclusion from one singular discovery.

Scholarly hypothesis stipulates this flood was just an inland flood that affected areas around indian ocean and then exaggerated into a world wide catastrophe by scribes who wrote down this account first of which is from mesopotamia... And that is why Egyptians practically seem not have no idea that there was any flood or any other civilization in Africa.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_myth

And now wikipedia is your bible. interestingly enough it is updated daily, and can be updated by anybody both sane and insane, biased and unbiased.

See my above quote on possible origin of the sumerian tablets.

And this coming from a supposed scientifically inclined individual is saddening. . . Dinosaurs extinction happened approximately 66million years ago and predates the emergence of any human civilization or the flood story place around the bronze age. 2348Bc.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretaceous–Paleogene_extinction_event

I don't think i can just argue over such common knowledge.

Again the dinosaur extinction is based on your same flawed scientific knowledge. All it needs is for someone to realise carbon dating is bullsh1t and there will be apologies everywhere.

I'm 90% sure the op didnt read all this himself. Just a few lines then copy/paste.

hahn:
Do you REALLY believe that the "spirit" led them? So, all species of animals around the world all strolled, 1 male and female only, into Noah's ark. ALL species includes insectd, bugs, mamals, reptiles etc

Yes I do.
If you have never had a supernatural experience, then i dont expect you to understand.
If you consider the vastness of variety around you, where you stay is not the same with anywhere else even though you live in a block of flats your flat will always be familiar to you. You do not look exactly like any other person on earth even though we are numbering 6billion now, of course you might have a doppleganger but he wont be exactly the same as you. Your clothing is different from those of any other person where you work or where you worship or where you party, even when you wear the same clothes your friend can differentiate you from the other person wearing the same uniform as yourself...then you begin to see the versatility of He who created you and relaise that you didnt just evolve, evolution is so random that there would have been repititions.

Something happened thousands of years ago and the ancients from all over the world saw it significant enough to write it down.
It is no myth.

johnydon22:
How can everything be revealed in the end... You are alive now and as far as i know this life is the only one you are sure of. if you don't learn now you will never learn.. In this age of information, ignorance is a choice.

The story of Noah is a Myth, copied from an older myth. The Gilgamesh Flood story of babylonia. . . You may do well to google it.

The story of a global flood is not peculiar to the jews alone. All over the ancient world there are texts from Phonecia, Akkadia, Babylona, Assyria, etc that depict there was a flood that wiped out all life.

This does not revoke the flood story but rather fortifies it. the ancients from all over the world experienced something. Those who had written language penned it down and it was passed on to those who had no written language at the time.


Also, you are a scientist. Till date, the flood is the best explanation for why the diinosaurs all died at once and why their bones are found in layers/sediments of rock. Its simple classroom soil sedimentation. I'm sure you did it in primary school.

Lacomus:
I find my self in a paradox when ever I seek ans. To some questions, I just hope every thing will be revealed in the end.

Everything WILL be revealed in the end, for now all you need to do is have faith.

Lacomus:
I was just going tru Noah's account when this question crossed my mind.
NOTE: I'm not in any way doubting the power of God.
Qst:: How did out of a thousand or more animal of a particular species only two (Male and female) heard Noah call into the Ark ?

They were quite literally led by the spirit of God.
An old painting shows angels leading the chosen animals into the ark.
Yet another shows animals that started migrating(protected on thier journey by angels) to the place of the construction of the ark months before noah recieved his inspiration to build it e.g polar bears.
So you see, there could have been many ways in which the animals got to be in the ark.


If something is an historical fact, there is every possibility that more than one person will take down the account e.g the gospels according to matthew, mark and luke, magdalene, etc.
So if the creation story appears in earlier text it further butresses the proof that it actually did happen.

There is no test for "internal heat".
What are your symptoms?do you have headache, body pains, etc? Outline them here. Also the tests you did and the results.

She's being extremely childish.

So her mum should stop living because she doesn't like it.

Pls I try not to be rude while making comments. Let me take my leave.

babygirlfl:
First of all if your going to be marrying one of us, you have to know how to address us. We are not delta Igbo, ( I have no problem whatsoever with Igbo people. Just love to be called with what we really are) we are Deltans or Anioma or if you want to be specific you say Ukwani, Aniocha or Ika.

To your question, generally it's not expensive unless of course the family is a greedy one. In my place the bride price is returned and the traditional marriage is hosted by the brides family with or without the support of the grooms family while the groom's family sponsors the church/court or whatever marriage they choose to do.

Under what group do Ibusa ladies fall under if I may ask?

Lovely post.

Most single people won't grasp it though.

jadelyn007:
What if her dad were dad and her aunt or some other female had to live with them.

Silly child, I thought she was going to bring up really concrete supportive arguments, seems what bothers her is that other kids have a dad n she doesnt

What if her lesbian mother sexually abused her and her lesbian fatherfigure was a drug addict?

Adding all the what-if's in the world does not discredit her story.

@5minsmadness, from your link, you didnt post the rest of her write-up. I think it makes a very interesting read.

Flytefalls:
She should have focused her argument around the impact of her mothers homosexuality on her life. But no, she chose to get it all muddled up with the realm of single parenthood. It detracts from the seriousness of her declaration to LGBT groups.

Where two sexes come together, there will never (naturally) be a child generated from their relationship. It ain't my business to concern myself with same sex relationships, but once a child is introduced, we cannot be ignorant to the fact it may be not in the child's best interest. Nothing proven as yet, but we cannot turn a blind eye to such issues.

But where there is a heterosexual relationship, children are created naturally and it can be that the couple will split and that child will have to endure life living mostly with one parent at home. Why should anyone advocate adults to remain together if it's obvious they will not be happy together?

She lost credibility with the above. Sorry.

"Her mother's homosexuality" is what the entire article is about. The child is talking about being deprived of the prescence of a father ...a man figure... in her life which is as a direct result of the mother's homosexuality.

She is very on point.

I see no credibility lost here. If anything, I see a supressed child raised in an unnatural situation finally having the guts to speak out despite the possibility of rejection from her family and all that she has known.

Kudos to her.

StealthIdeals:
Good!

Done.
all the best.

StealthIdeals:
Good!

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StealthIdeals:
I knw you are very busy, but, please, acknowledge the receipt of the document. Thanks.

aknowledged bro, just coming online now.