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SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 12:02pm On Jan 27, 2013
kramer: My friend don't be gullible, I checked Essiens record and i dont see any award for being the world's best huh huh ... Please post your source

Moreover, though Essien is a very good player I believe the reason why he was so hyped was because he played at his best in a prominent league!

Okocha spent his best years in PSG and most especially Fenebarche. At the time he arrived at the premier league he was just past his best but still managed to win the bbc african footballer of the year twice!! something Essien hasnt been able to do.

Also please tell me, if your team was 1-0 down and you needed someone to make an impact on the game, sincerely speaking who would you bring on? Essien or Okocha?

My two cents.
I will post you a dictionary instead:

http://www.dictionary.reference.com/

So you can check you English and be able to read and comprehend.
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 12:00pm On Jan 27, 2013
Afam4eva: You don't get my point...

Messi won the Champions league and WPOY award on several occasions. What did Thiery Henry win in the European pr world scene. Pls don't name the France 98 world cup. I'm referring to an individual achievement.
WINNING AWARDS IS A FUNCTION OF THE ERA YOU ARE IN.

So all the Christianos and Iniesta that will never win awards because a player called Messi is there, to people like you, will become hopeless players?

Ikpeba and Amunike are better players than Okocha becaause they won AFoY?

You guys should stop using rubbish tools.

Judge on:

- Players ability in their role.

- At what level they excelled with this ability.

- What influence they had on their team at these level.

Awards, Team trophies, caps, sale price, salary, sexy wife etc should all be secondary and back up.
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 11:55am On Jan 27, 2013
ballabriggs: That you do not know him says a lot about your knowledge of the game in Africa.

That man is the most capped football international in the World with 184 caps for country. Has won four AFCON titles in 1998, 2006, 2008 and 2010. Captained Egypt to three AFCON titles. Won the CAF Champions League with Al Ahly......

What else do you want undecided
I want him to do something exceptional that would make him stand out in the team that is winning something.

I would want him to do something exceptional to the point he is poached to come and play at the highest level.

I would want him to do somehting excpetional that we fcking even notice him.
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 11:46am On Jan 27, 2013
Afam4eva: I asked for any personal achievements and not WPOY afterall only one African player has won it.

Henry can be considered sh1t because he was a local champion. All his achievements did not cross England. You can't compare him with Luis Figo and Kaka for example. Infact, it's an insult to do so. And about buying one of these players, i'll put my money on Figo because unlike these other two, he's a one man riot squad.
You really are not serious.

That shyt player called Messi is also some stewpid local Champion. All his achievement is in Spain. undecided

See argument. undecided
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 11:42am On Jan 27, 2013
J12: Mboma was also God of his team. Also, if Mboma wasn't an outstanding goal machine, cameroon wouldn't have won the 2000 nations cup.
You are still arguing for for argument sake or just for the sake of being seen as still arguing.

Mboma was NEVER a God for any team he played for.

Mboma was NEVER as prolific as Yekini.

Emelcee: And why is VINCENT ENYEAMA, IKE SHORUNMU and PETER RUFAI not in the list?
Just shut up now!

Don't say another word.
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 11:38am On Jan 27, 2013
Afam4eva: So, how come the Essien who was named in the WPOY in 3 consecutive years never won the African footballer of the year? What title did he win personally as a footballer?
This is another of the rubbish judgement tools?

So Henry is also shyt because he did not win WPoY?

Luis Figo and Kaka won it. Out of these 3, which would you first buy at their peak?
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 11:35am On Jan 27, 2013
Brown Bread: u r a complete joke wot impact did oliseh had, any sensible person will know Essien is miles ahead of oliseh. Tackling, running, strength, incredible goals......etc. Essien have it more
stop making a clown out of urself grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Well said!

Acecube: guy you placed mikel above okocha,amokachi, ikpeba ? where are bk boys when you need them angry
Okocha fcked DK's wife that is why he has incandescent hate for him. grin grin grin grin grin

To be more serious, his rating approach is just faulty.

If a player plays in a team in a major championship final, to DK, he is the greatest ever.

CAMEROONPRIDE: ohh Girl you know so much.
Oga Sagamite why Geremi Sorel Njitap is not on your list?
Neither is Taribo West, Radebe, Ikpeba, N'Doram, Hadji etc.

He would be in top 50, it is not easy being in top 30.

Reference: But what happened in Europe. Yekini was top scorer for his portugese club for two seasons and a leading marksman in Portugal and in so doing taking a modest Vitoria Setubal to the UEFA (now Europa) cup. Scored Nigeria's first goal at the world cup in a team regarded as the tournament's most entertaining (not for Amokachi's dance moves though)
Some people think it is beans to score 90 goals in 108 matches.

They buy that in the market.
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 11:25am On Jan 27, 2013
ballabriggs: Please kindly edit your list and add Ahmed Hassan's name to it.

It is a big joke if that mans name is not on that list.
Because of what?

A modern day player that hardly anyone knows?

Speaks volumes of his ability.

CAMEROONPRIDE: You mean Afcon, World cup, confederation cup and Olympic are an inferior level? You are aware that these competitions reunite the best teams of each continent except 4 Afcon
You can call the Afcon of today inferior but back then it was a great and hard competition.
Ya it pained a lot?
What ever we were or are playing at afcon is inferior to what is being played in European leagues and World cup. Simples!

Freiburger: @ Sagamite, on what criteria did you rated Michael Essien (Ghana) and Samuel Kuffour (Ghana) before Rashidi Yekini (Nigeria)?
Yekini did not play at the highest level as these guys. These guys played at the highest level for a long time and they were key players to their team.

Jarus: Even Egyptians hardly rate Abu Treika among their Top 10, when they have Hassan Hosam, Ahmed Hassan, and other players of their golden generation.
No mind the kids.

Reference: Assessments are compounded. Sum of averages. You may do badly in one and exceptionally well in others and still fail or end up on top of the pile. It depends. Why I don't do skill is because it is part art, part technique, highly subjective. Not appreciated equally worldwide.
I prefer subjectives as long as the subject giving opinion is intelligent.

J12: Mboma(and Geremi) was the most influential player in the Cameroonian team during his time and he won more titles for his team than Yekini. He also scored better goals than Yekini. Yekini's goals are mostly tap-in's, even Yakubu scores better goals.
Check your facts before you speak.

Don't argue for for argument sake or just for the sake of being seen as still arguing.

No 1, Yekini was God of his team in his time.

No 2, NEVER say a player won or carried his team EXCEPT the player is an exceptional playmaker, outstanding goal machine or a keeper you can't beat. THOSE ARE THE ONLY PLAYERS that carry teams. Lets cut this silly arguments that a player is a good player in a team, hence he won this and that for them or he carried them to space. Only exceptional playmaker, outstanding goal machine or a keeper you can't beat are. Mboma was never any of those. Neither was a superb charismatic figure that scores vital last minute goals.

No 3, Yekinis goals were mostly tap ins? Are you a joke?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiGSl8rMGB8
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 10:46am On Jan 27, 2013
Reference: Wrong, wrong. The way I would rather rate players is this: Trophies (in accordance with tournament viewing attendances), Impact (the percentage of team success attributable to you), Longevity (the number of years we've enjoyed watching you perform at top level) and if there remains a tie, personal stuff such as skill, character, and all the petty stuff we quarrel about.

That's why I chose to ignore the mention of Yaya Toure and others. They are still at their peaks and can either chose to do better or end it regretfully.
I would put skills/ability above throphies anyday.

Throphies are a function of a team, skills is based on the individual.

Otherwise, Gary Neville would be one of the greatest.

And Austin Eguavon would be regarded as better than Diouf!
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 10:40am On Jan 27, 2013
Dasijmilano: Am sure the list is in order and I hav a problem with the 1st and 2nd position...i think george weah shuld be 1st ..
*3 time african footballer of the year
*european footballer of the year(1995)
*world footballer of the year(1995)
*he was even voted as the african footballer of the century(go for ur research if u doubt it)
*he played for 11 different teams and he won plenty cups(italia cup,french cup e.t.c)
samuel etoo has a similar achievement but WORLD FOOTBALLER OF THE YEAR? Nada

george weah has never featured in a world Cup is dat why his 2nd on the list,plz tell me
Really arguable.

But:

- Etoo has been at the top for more than 7 straight years now.
- Etoo is more prolific at club level (lets not even talk about national because that would be grossly unfair to Weah)
- Etoo scores all kinds of goals Weah would struggle to score.

Tight but over time, I would give it to Etoo for longevity, prolific-ness and variety of ability.

CAMEROONPRIDE: 1)by scoring
2) you can't imagine how embarrassing it was
So you are in the crowd of strikers should take all the glory? undecided

Pele. I know it pained. grin grin grin

CAMEROONPRIDE: I'm crying actually, so you mean the guy won't make history despite everything he made for this continent? We are Africans before everything, transcontinental exploits shouldn't count that much when judging our players.
We should ignore our players' glorious performances at the best level in favour of performances at an inferior level?
FashionRe: what do you think of Low Cuts on women? by Sagamite(m): 10:32am On Jan 27, 2013
kandiikane: With that your bald head? You can fool immigration.
Which bald head?
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 10:29am On Jan 27, 2013
pword: To me the way i late players is neither club nor national team performance,i late a player according to his individual performance.Thats why i suggest that Jay Jay Okocha supposed to come second after Samuel Eto'o
And not only is the way you rate players wrong, the way you apply your poor rating approach is even more ridiculous.

Okocha over Abedi Pele. Okocha over Hossam Hassan?

In your wildest drrrrrrreams!
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 10:22am On Jan 27, 2013
J12: If he wasn't a fiery striker, he wouldn't take cameroon to two world cups, win back to back African Cup titles + win an olympic medal. He also won the african player of the year award.
In all honesty, diouf and mboma deserve to be in your list. They are both better than Yekini.

Hell yeah.
I never said he was not a fiery striker, how is he better than Yekini?

How did he take Cameroun to 2 WCs? Was he the coach or something I was not aware of?

Also explain to me how Diouf was better than Yekini?

slimghost: So that gives him a place in your list? shocked shocked. Na waaaa ooo.You need to google up Sunday Oliseh again man.
Answer my question na.

CAMEROONPRIDE: he is not even among our top5 goalkeepers.
Are we talking about the same Songo'o who took 6goals against yougoslavia? Sha
That one match na wetin still dey pain you till today? grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

He was a great keeper. FACT! grin

[quote author=k'nash]funny ranking. who is essien compared to kanu. who is y.toure to nwankwo kanu. y will kanu be mention after both and others. a guy dat under went hrt surgery came back and still won african ft of da yr. make dis man pack him face nd ranking jareeee.[/quote]My friend, go and pick your books and prepare for your WAEC and NECO exams. angry
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 10:13am On Jan 27, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: their stats look quite similar.
Anyway you can't put the awful Songo'o , the shame of a whole country on that list and let MBOMA out.
We are talking about MBOMA here tell which can the dude played and didn't finish top scorer
In the name of my country I ask you to remove Songo'o and put Mboma "ndem"
The same Songo'o that was one of the best 5 keepers in the world in his time?

Sorry he disappointed your nation, but he is a top talent in his club for many years.

Emotions never come into my analyses.
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op):
dayokanu: Bebeto won the world cup as a top player and when he was a Deportivo player the club was second in the La Liga losing on goal difference to Barcelona

Mention one cup Okocha won as a key player, or which team he played for thats worthy of note
But your argument is "Top players play for top clubs, If you are good big clubs would come for you"?

Who cares whether his team won WC?

According to you, he must be shyt becuase big clubs did not come for him.

So you now realise a top player might not play for a top club? Just like Juninho P of Lyon as well? And Gascoigne?

dayokanu: Kanu went to a bottom club at his decline.

When kanu was top dog he played for Ajax, Inter and Arsenal clubs Okocha can never smell

Kanu started as striker for Ajax in the 1996 Champions league final

Kanu led Nigeria to her greatest triumph in football 1996 Olympics

Abeg bros tell us about what Jayjay won or did in his whole career

i dey go sleep jare
But Kanu went to a bottom club at 28, Okocha went to Bolton (your Poly) at 29. Yet Okocha shone like a million stars. grin

Sorry mate, Kanu was at decline at 21 when he started benching like Assistant coach. grin
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 10:04am On Jan 27, 2013
dayokanu: How easy is it to be a top player in bottom clubs. I am sure if you also go to Reading they would make you club captain.

Victor moses was messiah in Wigan what became of him now at Chelsea?

Go to Wigan and say you are from Victor moses village dem go take shayo wound you, But that doesnt make him top 1,000 anywhere
The same type of bottom club that Kanu could not be a top player and went there to bench after years of benching? grin

Then apart from Kanu watching Thierry Henry and Anelka live (I agree that is a tremendous achievement), compare Kanu and Jay Jay at national level.
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 10:00am On Jan 27, 2013
idanbox1: what of yaya toure?
He is at specsavers buying you a 2-for-1 special offer.

slimghost: Nice list Sagamite, but pls and pls yank Essien's name off that list. Even Sunday Oliseh was a better player and achieved more both at club and National levels
When was Oliseh ever in the top 10 midfielders in the world, talkless of top 10 footballers in the world like Essien?

dayokanu: What are the type of players that only excel at low level clubs and are not desired by top clubs. Zidane, Figo, Messi, Ronaldo Lima, C Ronaldo etc are all playing for top clubs

Top players play for top clubs, If you are good big clubs would come for you
So Bebeto was shyt?

J12: Patrick Mboma was the highest goal scorer for the Cameroonian national team before he was replaced by Eto.
If Rashidi yekini made your list, Mboma deserves a spot there too. In my personal opinion, Mboma is way better than Yekini.
Mboma is better than Yekini by scoring 33 goals in 57 matches, while Yekini Scored 37 in 58?

Mboma is better than Yekini by playing for the national team for 9 years, while Yekini played for 14?

When was Mboma ever as scary a striker in front of defenders like Yekini?

Theloveth: Saga bro am gonna fight you.All your arguments and counter arguments are top notch but i think u made a mistake.Not including aboutreika and Ahmed hassan,i mean these guys wont 3 consecutive afcons and abou like 3 or 4 caf championsleague.I think aboutreika deserves it IMHO.I dont like Diouf too but i think Dayo have a valid argument.2/3 years of flashness doesnt matter,he made a difference then so let him in.Van Basten has a short and fulfilled playing career too na
Aboutreika was that good, considering he played in the 2000s, he would have been in Europe too.

He is good but not one of the 50 greatest. There are many more quality players that missed out.

J12: If I were to compile a list of the Thirty best ever european footballers, Xavi and Iniesta won't make the list.
But Puyol and Casillas will? grin
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 9:51am On Jan 27, 2013
dayokanu: Kaka was never top 3 player in Real madrid and whats the 5yrs time frame you mean Kakas peak was at 2007 and he never matched that height ever again.

Which player ability would you see in Okocha or what level did he play that no top club like Madrid, Barca Bayern, AC Milan would see and only Bolton, Fenerbahce and Eitracht Frankfurt would see
Go and look at WPoY list for 2009.

He was injured shotly after getting to Madrid. He was bought as their star player.

At least Okocha was playing and he is regarded as a God, not just a good player, in the teams he played for. Unlike Kanu that watched the matches live. grin

Go to Turkey and say you are Nigerian and see whether you will not get a free drink.
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 9:34am On Jan 27, 2013
Reference: Then half of Africa will be included. You just cannot ignore the transcontinental impact soccer success brings. That's why Odegbami is rated so low.
Thank you.

metti: What of Perpetual Nkwochahuhhuhhuhhuh?? grin grin
She is just below Teslim Fatusi. grin
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 9:33am On Jan 27, 2013
metti: I am sorry for not having sense! But for you that have sense, take note that the thread is talking about 30 top footballers in Africa and not the world. May be in comparison you would have asked me what Kanu or any other player on the list has done to Africa football.
The thread says "Top African" footballers.

If it said "top footballers in Africa", I can assure you 13 year old Stanley Okoro would top my list. grin

dayokanu: How many tournaments did Kaka shine ?

Did shone at Nations cup 2002 shone at the world cup the highest level of football the world cup

What 5yrs span did Kaka and Dinho spend at the top?

How many tournaments did Paolo Rossi shine at and he is still regarded as one of the best Italian players ever
Who gives a shyt how many tournaments he shined in?

DK, I have told you several times: I AM NOT THE TYPE TO BE IMPRESSED BY TOURNAMENT SHINE!

I look at a player, his ability, the level he played at and how he can carry his team.

Kaka was consistently the best player or top 3 in his team with AC Milan, Real Madrid and Brazil for over 5 years. He controlled the game with those teams.

Are those Ogbomoso moin-moin teams?
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 9:26am On Jan 27, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE: Where is PATRICK MBOMA I tire ooo angry angry you can't talk about Cameroon players without mentioning his name come on naa
He would struggle to fit in top 50.

A player being good does not mean he is the greatest.

Afam4eva: I noticed you're not fond of Okocha but this Okocha you call a circus entertainer carried the Nigerian team on his back for so many years just the same wayy he carried PSG and Bolton.
No min am!
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 9:19am On Jan 27, 2013
dayokanu: Diouf was twice African footballer of the year TWICE. World cup all star.

How many years did Kaka spend at the top? Does that mean Paul Scholes is better than him?

How many years did Ronaldinho spend at the top? Did that mean Giggs is better than him
Kaka and Ronaldinho spent many years at the top.

At least 5 years.

Never compare such people to Diouf.

Shining at tournaments does not make you great. Especially one tournament.
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 9:14am On Jan 27, 2013
Brown Bread: 1 George Weah
2 Roger Milla
3 Abedi Pele
4 Samuel Etoo

AND THE REST grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Milla over Etoo?

Explain to me during what era Milla could ever be considered one of the top 20 strikers in the world. Lets not even talk about top 5.

mikky2k2: u forgot mido, zaki and amr of egypt
I also forgot Pitroipa and Peter Ndulovu.

Sorry, my brother.
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 9:09am On Jan 27, 2013
metti: grin grin
Is Messi from Africa? Pls don't bring club issues into this. I am sure you are a Chelsick fan.
But I thought you asked what Essien did in Africa?

So you don't find sense in thinking what did Messi do in South America?

dayokanu: Diouf won not once but twice, One of the best players in the French league in circa 2000-2001

Twice African footballer of the year winner

World cup All star team member

Diouf was a top footballer at his prime
1 year of flash and you are the greatest ever (especially if you do a few hay-hay-hay leg-overs)?

Sorry, not in Sagamite's world.

dayokanu: Diouf is better than Nkono, Antoine Bell, Grobellar, Pokou

Maybe Yaya Toure should be higher than that. But Diouf not top 30? thats not right for a 2 time African footballer of the year and World cup All star player
Diouf is better than Liverpool's number 1 keeper for more than 8 years during the era when Liverpool were king's in UK and Europe?

Really? undecided
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 9:05am On Jan 27, 2013
dayokanu: Between 8 and 15

Diouf would fit in anywhere here

7. Thomas N'kono (Cameroun) - Goalkeeper
8. Michael Essien (Ghana) - Midfielder
9. Mahmoud El-Khatib (Egypt) - Striker
10. Joseph-Antoine Bell (Cameroun) - Goalkeeper
11. Hossam Hassan (Egypt) - Striker
12. Samuel Kuffour (Ghana) - Defender
13. Bruce Grobbelaar (Zimbabwe) - Goalkeeper
14. Kalusha Bwalya (Zambia) - Midfielder
15. Laurent Pokou (CIV) - Striker
So Diouf is better than Yaya Toure?

Diouf is comparable to Bwalya, Essien and Hossam?

Really?
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 9:02am On Jan 27, 2013
shymexx: You and I know that Jay Jay Okocha was cheated out of the trophy twice - first in 1998, and second in 2002 or so... He was clearly the best African player in 1998 by far and he was also the third most expensive player in world(his move to PSG)... He should've won it in 2002 or so as well, however, politics gave it to Eto Fils...
No, Kanoute won fair and square, why did Okocha not be able to win fair and sqaure.

Kanoute is faaaaaaaaaar better than Okocha.


Sorry, I am just trying to think like you guys that talk about awards. Diouf my arsse!

shymexx: I don't care about how long he played at top level, however, he's top 50 on any list whatsoever - the guy lacked the required techniques and he was rubbish!!... If we're to go by your logic, Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes should also be on the list of top 30 greatest footballers ever because they played at the top level for like forever!!! undecided
One of the most efficient defenders Africa has seen, with 138 caps with African football's powerhouse at their peak.

No be beans or Asaro.
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 8:57am On Jan 27, 2013
metti: Where is Theophilus Abega?
He was number 31 and barely missed the list.

metti: What has Essien done to Africa Football to have made the listhuh?
What has Messi done for Argentine football?
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 8:54am On Jan 27, 2013
dayokanu: El Hadji Diuof was a star in the Senegalese team.

He was 2 times African footballer of the year and made the the WORLD CUP ALL STAR TEAM.

After that he made a move to Liverpool. Many people on your list never achieved close to these
Enlighten me.

Tell me where you would slot Diouf in that list.
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 8:53am On Jan 27, 2013
shymexx: Where's the bald Camara guy from Guinea that played for Liverpool??

The guy was a great footballer!! grin
In Africa's top 30?

J12: The 2010 world cup was bullshït. Besides, Ghana just had a good team and nothing else. Spain eventually won the world cup but apart from Cassilas and maybe puyol, no other player in that Spanish team will be included in a top thirty best ever European footballer list.
Puyol and Casillas over Xavi and Iniesta? shocked

WTF!
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 8:51am On Jan 27, 2013
topsy1971: The list is extremely biased. Where is Stephen Tawtaw,Yousouf Fofana,Kabongo Ngoy,Cyril Makanaky,Mark Fish,Kana Biyik,Stephen Keshi,Sam Okwaraji,Nduka Ugbadehuh.
Nduka Ugbade - One of the top 30 greatest African footballers of all times. grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

Sorry. I apologise. I even forgot to put Mobi Oparaku too. grin






JARUS, DEMOCRACY? angry


J12: Where is the left footed devil called Patrick Mboma?
In top 100, somewhere below Oliseh, Fofana, Baba Camara, Oman Biyik, Hadji etc.

shymexx: If Essien is rated for the role he played in Lyon's champions league campaign(and the team was a complete team, btw), then Victor Ikpeba should rated for his exploits with AS Monaco in the champions league as well... Heck, Victor Ikpeba won the African footballer of the year - something Essien never achieved... I'm a life long Chelsea fan and Essien wasn't even the top 5 most important player for Chelsea from 05-07 - Drogba, Carvalho, Terry, Arjen Robben, Lampard, Gallas, and Makele made Chelsea back then...

Kanu is one of the most decorated African footballer ever and he deserves to be top 5 on that list... Heck, the guy overcame a career threatening heart surgery - and he was the sole reason why Nigeria won the 1996 olympics gold medal in football(the first by an African team)...

Jay Jay Okocha should also be ahead of Michael Essien - he's one of the greatest talents to ever come out of the continent, and one of the most famous as well... His only achilles heel is that he never played for a big club...
Kanoute won African footballer of the year. Something Okocha never achieved.

So Kanoute is better than Okocha?

otumfour: if peeps disagree wirh Saga's list, let them come up with their's.....simple!
We have already seen one from kabukabu! grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

shymexx: Why is Rigobert Song on the list?? grin - he was rubbish!!! grin

The great Oman Biyik needs to replace him asap - Italia 90 legend with the other guy with dreads(can't remember his name)...

I don't know most of the people on the list, however, some of them shouldn't be on that list IMHO..

Where's Diouf?? - he killed the 98 world cup... Heck, he also won the African Footballer of the Year twice...

I can't argue against Eto, Drogba, and the great George Weah!!! - African legends!!
Do you know how long Rigobert Song played at the top level?

You are one of the flash in the pan impresionable youths. Diouf ko, Waldorf ni!
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 8:39am On Jan 27, 2013
jadakiss213: true.but why cant u compare Oliseh wv Essien?he was probably better than the Ghanian.played for top clubs and was highly sought after.anyways its ur opinion.
Oliseh compared to Essien? undecided

What the fck are you guys smoking this weekend?

That is like telling me Tiote can be compared to Nedved!

Can you tell me any period when Oliseh was one of the top 10 midfielders in the world? Any period in his career.

Is this a joke?

FXKing2012: The author of this list must be very eeeeediotic; no smart individual will concoct such.
I will pick up your person arsse on another thread.

When I finish with you, you will regret even being born dumb.

[quote author=kj_hova]Sadly, you sound like a Europhile or worse still an Afrophobe. Referencing many fine Africans that played the Afcons & Sekur Toure cups of the 60's, 70's & 80's as fishermen is poor understand of the past.

Simply put, the crave for playing in Europe (as we experience today) was non-existent in those days! The likes of Chukwu, Odegbami or Okalla ended there career in Africa by choice.

Even today, Africa's finest footballer (my opinion, of course), Mo Abu Terika, played his entire career at home in Egypt. Would that place him below Brown Ideye in your opinion?[/quote]To be honest, I am just a sensiphile.

Yes, African leagues where good in the 70s and 80s, not the 60s. They were good, does not mean they were not populated with semi-pros who could not compete with players in the Western Leagues, evident in World Cups were Zaire was chopping 9 goals.

It is like comparing the modern-day good Middle Eastern Leagues to European 2nd tier leagues (Not even first tier). The ME leagues are still shyt in comparison and only very few players would be worth mentioning.

Egytian league is the most advanced in Africa with pay virtually as good PPP-wise with 3rd tier European leagues.

aribisala0: What did Kanu do for Super Eagleshuh Did he win Anything ? At least the others did{Okocha from the bench)
What did George Weah do for Liberia

It says greatest AFRICAN footballers and so National Team is not the only Yardstick.
Kanu should be on the list period.But he won Nothing win super Eagles
TEAMS WIN THINGS, not players!

So if Kanu was a God and the other 10 players were palava, what do you want them to win?

Lets cut this crap of saying "What did a player win", focus on his ability and influence on a team.

aribisala0: Way too many Nigerians who are good but this list inly shows the youth and generation bias of its author,
Youths smoking some conc stuff! grin

Jarus: All rankings I have come across have Okocha and Kanu in top 15, whether from top sports journalists, or football portals or even official CAF ranking

When CAF celebrated 50 few years ago, its official ranking had Kanu as 8, Okocha as 12 and Rashidi at 17

This is more agreeable to me, but I recognize different folks, different perspectives.
All rankings you have come across were made democratically by people who do not have Saga's brain.

I don't need to tell you what I think about democracy. We are already seeing here one mugu talking about El Hadji Diouf as in the top 30 in Africa ever and others talking about Iroha in top 30.

You mean the same CAF rankings that put Milla above Weah and Etoo?

Democracy is bad. Godly decision is good.

dayokanu: In Sagamites list I think kanu should make top 10 of African footballers but I doubt Okocha should even make top 20
The same Kanu that played 87 times for Nigeria as a striker, and scored less than Jay Jay that played 73 times as a midfielder?

The same Kanu who spent 2/3rds of his career on the bench?

dayokanu: Sagamite No one from the Senegalese team who made the World cup quarter finals? or the Ghanaian team of 2010 Thats the highest thing an African team has achieved at the world cup
No chance!

I am Sagamite, not a quack that is impressed by flash in the pan.

They played well as a team does not mean their players were great. Which of their players dominated European or African football over a long stretch?

NONE!

The Zambian players that won ANC are not great because they won.

Jarus: Foe was a regular player, not extra-ordinary. His death on pitch only popularized him.
Don't mind them.

That is how some foools said Okwaraji was one of the greatest Nigerian footballers.

A yeye journeyman that could not get a game in the back waters of Europe.

chucky234: Sagamite must be drinking some cheap Korean alomo bitters to have put together a list as ridiculous as this,Kanu won UEFA Champions league aged 19yrs and was an important player at the then world's best football,Ajax Amsterdam and no African footballer dead or alive has ever achieve that fit.
Drogba was average with Marseille and only made his mark with chelsea,Kanu won CL,world club cup,3 dutch titles and 2 dutch cup with Ajax,UEFA cup with inter milan,2 EPL titles,3 FA cups,2 Carlin cup with Arsenal and 1 FA cups with Porthsmouth.

With Nigeria he won the U17 world at 16 and was the tournament 3rd most outstanding player,2 AFCON silver and 3 bronze,2 times African player of the year,Olympic gold medal,played in 3 world cup.

To me Kanu should be up there behind Eto'o in 2nd place.
Jarus, this is what democracy gets you!

"Kanu won Champions League"! undecided

So what should Litmannen, Finidi, Blind, Seedorf, Davids claim then? They created Champions League?

Kanu is greater than Weah and Drogba?

Democracy? ....................Hmm? ..................Omo Kwara. undecided


Chanchit: But Abou Trika still deserves to be among the top 10 from any angle you look it from, club or country,
You are at Prof Corruption's weekend party, aintya?

yemmy19: †ђξ Sagamite must be a fool,cos Kanu is supposed to Ђα̲̅v̶̲̥̅̊ε̲̣̣̣ occupied †ђξ 3rd position.
Ar u a learner.....infact u must be a novice
Another person I would pick up on another thread later.
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 2:51am On Jan 27, 2013
shadrach77: i'm suprised that said owairan did not make the list huh huh cheesy grin grin
And Neymar paapaa. grin grin grin grin grin

Prof Corruption: grin grin grin It's difficult to knock off the first three. The rest is a fair game. Kanu's position at number four can equally be justified.
It can not be justified, if can be benchified. grin

Kanu vs Abedi Pele? ...............................................You are not serious? grin

Kanu cannot even smell Rabah Madjer.

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