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cocolacec:
How come the Chinese,Germans,Japanese are not lagging behind on the International scene?

If Nigerians compete on International scene,they can use an interpreter like other countries do.
A truly free people will be proud of their language not feeling fly with a colonisers language.

A Swedish official once told me, the best gift you can give your child is to teach them your mother tongue not a foreign Language.

Sweden has a population of 10 million,languages spoken are Swedish,Yiddish,Sami,Romani chib.English is the second language but it is not compulsory.Some Swedes learn French,Spanish ,German in place of English.

Swedish is the language of the majority and medium of instruction in all schools from primary to University levels.English courses are offered to foreign students.

Funny enough their English is better than Nigerian English because they employ Americans,British etc and qualified Swedes to teach English in their schools.

To a Black reeetarded monkey, the best gift you can give your child is an Oyinbo name that sounds funky and make sure they learn as many oyinbo languages as possible.

Peterobi90:
If you had a good primary education, you would spell better... if you are trying to use foul words, you would know there is something called synonyms.

Primary education is the foundation of a child's enlightenment..

I understand why you cant see how important the questions are, it exactly why the Govt wants to hold others down.

Do have a great day..

You are a daft creetin.

You are talking about my spelling because I am intentionally avoiding auto-replacement of my choice words.

Moronic fuuucktard, in just 4 English sentences you made, look at the errors I highlighted in bolded.

And you are the creeetin questioning my primary school education?

AHHHHH! Ko le daa fun e! (E no fit better for you!)

You should be swearing for you English teachers.

Yureyes:
Nobody cares what Nigeria is. You don’t teach my child a regional language when the official language is something else. In Germany, their official language is German. In Nigeria, the official language is English, not Yoruba, Igbo or Hausa. So why teach my child? If the official language was the same as the mother tongue being taught, then you’ll have a point. I’d rather my child learn the official language that’s being taught nationally than learn a regional language that’s not mine.

Additionally, you are talking as if it isn’t Nigeria, where people move frequently. Imagine I live in the west, and I have a child who has been taught with Yoruba up to primary 3 level, then we move to the north where the language of instruction is Hausa and my child has to begin primary 4 learning in Hausa. How do you expect such child to cope?

Or imagine a state with multiple tribes are native to the state, so if I move from one city to another in the same state, I’ll be forced to learn all the languages because that’s the language of instruction in school?

You can take your child to a region where you want to learn that region's language.

Bobbiee:
The downside is that there'd be zero ethnic mixing. Students would grow up having difficulty speaking English, and hence finding it difficult to mix with other Nigerians. What about people of other ethnicities in the same town or city. Would they have to be taught in Yoruba too?

What makes you think students will have difficulty speaking English?

People of other ethnicity will learn the language of their host ethnic group. Will that also be "zero ethnic mixing"?

gbagyiza:
You did not read the statement well? The policy says, the dominant mother tongue in the environment will be taught in that area or region. If a yoruba child is schooling in zaria in kaduna state, that child will be taught hausa because hausa is the dominant mother tongue there. A place like Gboko in Benue state, Tiv language will be taught. My kids are from Kaduna state but schooling in yoruba land, they r forced to study yoruba language. Is this not a waste of time?

How is it a waste of time?

Peterobi90:
Just some questions that would crash all the jargons you have written...

- Do they have 250 languages in those countries?

- Are the languages in Nigeria proficient enough and in large numbers to cause a shift in adoption on international scale?

- Is Nigeria independent as the countries you have mentioned, what is the migration data of these countries you have mentioned?

For a country like Nigeria, language is nuclear and family bound. Anything otherwise would cause disunity on what particular language supersedes.. you have a country suffering on religious lines, now the useless Government wants to make its ethnic divided lines obvious..

If you can't see your chains used as bangles, some of us do...

I really dont blame dingbats like you that dont even see beyond their noses..

You are a moooronic creeetin!

What relevance does your 3 reetarded questions have to do with primary school education?

einsteine:
The number of languages in Scandinavia is important because it explains why a policy may be good for them but not good for Nigeria which has over 200 languages.

You may not be well travelled in Nigeria and as such may be forgiven for your ignorance on the topic. In the south south states of Edo and Delta, there are close to 20 languages in each state with neighbouring villages sometimes having very different languages.

Good point.

But I am sure a school resides in one village, not multiple villages. So the language of education in a school in that village can be the local language or the lingua franca/dominant language of that region.

einsteine:
People change locations sometimes and having children relearn in different languages will not be ideal.

Tough!

Not ideal, but less damaging for society than a people who have lost their language and identity.

The parents need to plan how they would handle this issue for 6 year.

Or you think if the same parents are told they have been awarded visa to Frankfurt or Stockholm to live, they will not find a way to accept that their children will have to learn a different language?

einsteine:
Simply put, you cannot compare Sweden or Denmark to Nigeria. Those countries have one language and years of linguistic development to support such a policy. Nigeria did not choose to use English as a language of instruction for early instruction by accident. It was a deliberate choice borne out of the peculiarities of the country.

Sorry, linguistic development required to educate primary school students is not rocket science.

This is just an excuse not to change.

einsteine:
Many primary schools in the Northern part of Nigeria use Hausa as a language of instruction. We can see the outcome in the poor performance of many of these students in competitive examinations. We can also see it in their inability to be fluent in the general lingua franca because of the poor foundation.

The language is not the problem. The problem is the poverty, mentality, culture and religion.

Finland uses Finnish as language of instruction and the outcome is World Class. They combined local language with the international lingua France.

Hong Kong too mainly used Chinese as instructional language but still became a global financial centre operating with English.

einsteine:
Of course, a great deal of introspection is necessary to understand my points and if it misses you, I would not be surprised. You have often manifested a dearth of intelligence.

If you had an IQ in the triple digits, you will not be asking these asinine questions and if you still fail to understand these points, you would have confirmed what I have always known you to be.

You are a moronic cretin.

On your brighest day, you are not as bright as one enzyme in my spit that landed in a gutter.

Bobbiee:
I believe this should not be implemented in major cities or areas that have a sizable ethnic minority or admixture. For instance, in a village or local town in Oyo, Anambra, Kaduna, this policy would be splendid. But in major cities where there's a sizable mix in ethnicities, this wouldn't work. Except they want segregation as that's the result of this policy, with specialized schools for Igbo, Hausa, efik, within a Yoruba state, and vice versa. This would be more trouble than it's worth.


I've always said it, Nigeria needs a new official language, a local language. It doesn't have to be one of the many languages. It could be a made up language like Guosa. But that could then be taught at primary level and we won't have this problem. This policy to me, would only raise a lot of problems.

Very well said.

But I think it is worth it.

I would rather have segregated schools at primary levels (which would be corrected at secondary) than have a bunch of fellow citizens with inferiority complex all their lives.

Secondly, the segregation will only occur in a few states' cities (like Port Harcourt, Kaduna & Kano) and some states (like Taraba, Adamawa, Nasarawa, Plateau, Kogi, Benue, and all of the South West). Not that damaging.

phemmyfour:
We don't have enough teachers and resources e.g textbooks to achieve this.

And we can't build the capabilities and resources?

seunayantokun:
Conquered minds they are. When we start overall implementation of that policy, they'll be free.

Well said!

Judolisco:
Dis policy is already in place in early childhood education... But I don't think it's working.... Even parents don't speak their language to kids anymore

Useless parents!

cocolacec:
All the countries he mentioned speak in the mother tongue or the language of their host community.
I have been to Germany before even Amercan sitcoms are dubbed in German on TV not subtitled.
Only enslaved people cherish the language of a coloniser.

"It will affect their education and progress".

"You have to speak English to be able to progress".

Awon asinwin!

That is the major economy in Europe.

einsteine:
You have a well known propensity for being stupid but i will oblige you. So you think if English is the language of instruction means that your "mother tongue" will not be taught in primary schools? You are having this discussion in English, why not resort to your mother tongue?

Starting children in local languages would affect them later in academic life. We see a lot of Nigerian politicians engaging in code switching and other forms of poor communication when speaking and one big reason for this is their early training in their mother tongue.

The world is global now and this faux patriotism or "Proud Nigerian" nonsense is not going to help you. One would have expected you to have a Yoruba username given that you are so overjoyed with your "mother tongue".

You are a moooronic cretiin!

What stuupid questions are these?

Are these the answers to the questions you were asked?

I will ask your dumbass again:

What is the relevance of how many languages are in Scandinavia?

What "discussions" will primary school students be having beyond their primary school friends?

They would be going for state conferences for discussions?

In your thick head you think because they say the language of instruction will be in a local language that means English will not be taught at primary schools?

I will comeback to the rest of your stupidity when you answer. Your roasting just began, Suya!

Bobbiee:
What about areas with ethnic heterogeneous populations. Like some major cities, i.e., Lagos, Abuja, Port Harcourt?

Lagos - Majorly Yoruba
Abuja - Majorly Gwari or Hausa
Port Harcourt - Majorly Ijaw or Ikwerre

That should not stop some school proprietors setting up primary schools with focus on other languages, or state governments organising inserting some schools with focus on other languages where there is a high concentration of people that speak that local area.

omolasho:
Absolutely unnecessary and it only complicate learning for the kids.

The Scandinavian kids taught like that did not find it complicated.

I am sure it can be complicated for Baboon kids sha.

colestephan86:
What of those parents that always want to speak qweens English to their children at home

God punish them!!!

einsteine:
How many languages are in Scandinavia?

You guys talk rubbish without considering the peculiarities of your country. Edo state alone has close to 20 languages. If you were typing your missives in your mother tongue, would I be able to have a discussion with you?

What a fooolish statement!

What is the relevance of how many languages are in Scandinavia?

What "discussions" will primary school students be having beyond their primary school friends?

They would be going for state conferences for discussions?

In your thick head you think because they say the language of instruction will be in a local language that means English will not be taught at primary schools?

fkj950ax:
How many textbooks are in Igbo Yoruba and Hausa.
How many novels or story books are in these languages?
That's instructional material being the problem.

In terms of teacher qualification, how many teachers can actually read and write in these languages to the point we trust them to grade students in these same languages?

Resistance to change and continued excuse for colomentality.

It is not rocket science and will not take eternity to produce/translate books to local languages for primary schools.

Reading and writing in a local language for primary school students would not be quantum physics effort.

Teachers will have to now speak local languages AND English to be employed. Good! All those whose parents refused to teach them any local language cannot be teachers. Find another profession.

yemmit90:
To me, this is not a good policy. A kid will perfectly understand his/her mother tongue language as long as the parent spoke it at home.

English is our official language, failure to introduce it early in the life of young kids will only make them lag behind in future. How do you expect such children to compete with other kids in national and international competitions.

This is a backward educational policy, and I am sure it is because of the North.

Continue talking nonsense.

Do you "perfectly" speak your mother tongue?

Scandinavian people are taught in school, their whole lives, with their mother tongue from early life, they are far better than you in speaking English and have a better future than you have. You can't compete with them.

Samantha123:
That's easy, here in SA, most multiracial schools or schools that have children from different cultures ensure that they have more than one home language as a subject.. they'd have at least three or four home languages as subjects and the child will decide which language to choose.

Or the parents could take the child to a school that has their home language as a subject, but at the same time I still don't see anything wrong with the child learning another language from his or her country.

In that way, the child will be able to communicate with the people from the area that he or she lives properly.

You are mistaken, Poplap.

This policy is not about teaching local languages in schools. It is about using local languages as the tool of instructions in primary schools.

They already and will continue teaching foreign languages, but English will not be the tool on instructions, the area's local language will be.

Cantonese:
Imagine teaching English in your mother tongue.

Imagine teaching English in some mother tongues, wey I no go mention their names. What about mathematics, biology, chemistry and physics?

Imagine teaching law in the mother language.

Some languages must not dare, otherwise everywhere go scatter!

If you are not taught English, imagine how it would be at the markets, or in public places. Imagine how you go take toast woman for road. As you are speaking your own, she dey speak her own with hand sign to respond.

When you get sense, you will get sense to know biology, chemistry, physics, law, geophysics and Python are not taught in primary schools.

Nwakannaya1:
When you instruct them with the mother tongue which isn't bad in itself, I hope they would be able to communicate with others from other geolocations in their own mother's tongue.

We already have Nigerian languages in schools but making them compulsory languages of instruction has the capacity of limiting the pupils in less developed country like ours.

Since he removed sex education from curriculum, I no longer take him serious. Self-confessed failure of a minister.

There are actually two options:

1) Make local languages the compulsory languages of instruction.

2) Make it compulsory that each kid (raised in Nigeria) must pass a primary school exam in a local Nigerian language to progress or gain entry into any secondary school in Nigeria.

The second one might even be a better policy in my view. That would provide some sense of equity for those not living in their native land but simultaneously force useless parents to speak their mother tongue to their kids; otherwise they would be funding private lessons for 1 or 2 years, after primary school, for their kid(s) to learn a local language before being able to progress to secondary school.

By force, by force, we go remove that colomentality.

Look at P-Square and go check their children's names. Serious colomentality.

blaise26abj:
Nothing bad in allowing your child to learn the predominant language of your host community . Most Igbo kids that grew up in the south west can speak Yoruba fluently .
It is actually a great move if well implemented . In terms of integration of the country and ability of students to understand better what they are taught .
I see it as a baby step towards removal of state of origin and having state of residence .

Thank you.

Peterobi90:
Dumb policy honestly..... has he been to majority of public primary schools, do they look like English is even being practised there, its sad the little encouragement is about to be wiped off with a pronounced law..

How would the children now be enlightened to read for exposure and broad knowledge in a country with different languages of very small groups to compete with their peers in private schools and international?

Would the secondary education now be an English language class for students in order not to be caught up with language barriers in the future?

Well... in a few years time, the retrogressed education would be obvious and the result would be evident.

Mother tongue is a family affair, community language is not mother tongue... the policy is baseless..

People will always find excuse to continue engaging in their colomentality.

The problem with education in Nigeria is funds and professionalism.

Whether language of instruction is in English, Bini, Gwari or Japanese, those problems in public schools will still exists.

In countries like Denmark, Netherlands, Sweden, Iceland etc. the language of instruction for their children in primary and SECONDARY schools are their local mother tongue.

Secondly, they use their local language to teach the kids English.

Thirdly, as the children reach equivalent of Primary 4 to 6, they can further add another foreign language to learn like German, French or Spanish.

So these primary school kids are learning 3 fcking languages with their local language used as teaching instructions. Yet, contrary to what colomentality mugus like you will claim, it does not confuse them.

Adults of these countries taught in such manner speak better English than you, are better educated than you, more enlightened than you, more employable than you and the countries' education has not "retrogressed".

The thing they have achieved is not to feel like second class humans to no one and they are employable at home and in foreign countries where they speak that countries language reasonable well/fluently.

You go continue your colomentality where your children cannot speak their mother tongue and you have also given them English names because this makes you feel "cool" and "advanced".

Alvin007:
Adamu explained that the mother tongue to be used in each
school will be the dominant language spoken by the community where it is located.

Abi o.

Some people were taught in English but still struggle to read in English, and yet are saying not being taught in English will be the problem.

Yureyes:
Lol. What happens if I’m not Yoruba and we happen to live in Ile Ife and I have no desire for my child to learn Yoruba. Will the school teach my child in his own mother tongue too? The dominant language spoken in the community doesn’t make it my mother tongue

If you have no desire for your children to learn Yoruba and you live in a Yoruba place, then you have two options:

1) Move to a place where you want your children to learn the local language there.

2) Send your kids from age 6 to boarding school located in a place you want your children to learn the local language.

3) Send your children abroad to study; I guess, most likely to a country where they will speak fone and learn fone.

Which do you prefer?

southsouthking:
What's the benefit of this?

So that you have identity and partially contribute to lessen your colomentality.

Dshocker:
Am from the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC), my problem now is; who will teach me Swahili language in school¿

Any language they teach you with will still not save you from your dumbness since you cannot read simple article in the English you are already taught in.

Read the article again and lets see whether you have any sense of comprehension.

dontrulee:
As for me, if you're insisting on a date with me, I'll tell you the bills are on you!

Interestingly, I only say this jokingly but in my experience, more than ten girls have agreed and they paid my bills but surely I pay them back times two after we leave.

Summary: ladies can pay bills for the man they love, don't be a fool and waste money on a lady that will dump you without thinking twice when the chips are down!

Damn right!

Most women would for guys they like.

It is the ones they don't like they create rules and expectations for; and would discard if he falls out of the boundaries. These are mainly the lapdogs who like women to call them "Real Men".

Kenneth10110:
responsible men are the type that don't give a damn trying to please a woman that's not your wife. She could leave you anytime and jump into another available client. The irresponsible ones are the one's that will do everything to please a woman forgetting the commitment or cash could be channelled to something reasonable like investment or save enough to grow as a man.

Very well said!

Godada:



Since she asked for a date.

It's important you state it clearly you are going dutch.

Having stated this, it's up to her to decline to come.

A date, like I get it, is supposed to be a time for conservation and getting to know each other, not stuffing the face.

While at it. It's expected that as the man, you pick up the the tab.

She is supposed to be moderate in her consumption.

In any case, you got it wrong.

Women, child and pets gets to be loved and pampered. Men get to earn their keep. What a man truly deserves, any man deserves is respect.

Men don't need love but respect.

In any case, this sad campaign against women is pointless.

It's just juvenile and myopic.

You aren't forced to do relationships.

Just stay in your lane.

I have seen women go through life transformation just to birth a life. I have seen the pains of pregnancy. A mother on her way to birth multiple kids, believe me, it ain't a freaking walk in the park.

I have seen pregnant women lose bone mass, blood, nutrients, get all lots of sicknesses at the time of gestation. How about the kicks from the babies.....

Women birth, nurture the world from the cradle to raising kids to preserving lives from the kitchen.

Men, I mean men 47 and above knows that the position of a mother should be respected.

These kids shooting their mouth about being alpha male and being a redpiller just need to grow up.

They need to take a breather

What utter moronic nonsense.

Why are you not saying "since she asked for a date, she should have paid for the date"? Is that not the lame arguments these selfish feminist try to latch on when they want it to be a duty that men pay for dates and continue treating them special, while they hate on men? They will say "who ever asked for a date/to go out should pay"; not like if these fuckers pay for their girlfriends they asked to come out.

It is lapdogs like you that turned these women to be maximally selfish and think they should have zero accountability.

You let them think all they are entitled to in life are privileges, security and rights; while the man should be entitled to and solely get to bare the sacrifices, risks and accountabilities of the engagement.

Now, you lapdogs all in the desperation to be labelled "Real Man" have created modern women that want the powers of men, the privileges of women and the accountabilities of children!

Yes, as a man, it might be traditionally expected and be nice to pick up the bill, but the woman should not assume it is her right and should ensure the date was worth your time with her decorum, manners, considerate and conversations (aka good company at the date). If she cannot bring that to the table, and/or she is a feminist, let her gaddam pay for herself.

"Real Men" like you are the people that have turned the women we have today into mostly trash:

https://www.nairaland.com/1063074/some-girls-such-bore/1#12487265

Motherfuckers will come for date and expect the guy to create conversation and pay; while she sits her silly ass there taking pictures for instagram and be boring as fck.

As for what she goes through giving birth, what the fck is a guy's business with that moronic point?

That is her problem with whomever the fck she lets impregnate her; not a guy taking her out on a date. Why did you bring that moronic lapdog point up ffs?

Irrespective of age, men should respect women who respect themselves and the man. Don't be advocating automatic privileges, security and rights. Let it be fcking earned!

Modern women need to fcking up their game and stop this selfishness and sense of entitlement.

Sheistoopretty:
Wailings of a poor wretched simp turned Redpiller wannabe so ordinary rice and ice cream is what u couldn't pay for and u are here already giving motivational advises You see why I don't take these Nairaland Broke Wretched Boys serious?

All these BJRAN (Broke and Jobless Redpillers Association of Nairaland) boys sef

I have one thing to tell you. GROW UP!

When will you grow up and pay for your own self?

Ordinary rice and ice cream you cannot afford?