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dayokanu: You showed a link that Flamengo has 6 titles and the leader has 8 titles 2 more.

It was during Zicos tenure that they won some of these titles

Ole, Barawo, no 1, it was 9 years after Zico joined them that they won their fist title, so how did a big club buy Zico?

No 2, how are they the top club in Brazil? The reside at the highest geographical location?

dayokanu: Zicos ability was seen by Flamengo the top club in brazil and they bought him, won South American footballer of the year award and He won sevral titles for his clud including Brazilian championship and world club cup Tell us about Jayjay Okocha

Dayokanu, you are a con man.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campeonato_Brasileiro_S%C3%A9rie_A#List_of_Brazilian_football_champions

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_Libertadores#Records_and_statistics

That is like saying Ismaily is the top club in Egpyt.

Onigigbiti!

If you were in Northern Mali and said that, they would cut off your tongue.

Let me argue like this moronic person called A-40.

"Michael Owen is greater than Alan Shearer. Owen played for bigger teams like Liverpool, Real Madrid, Man U and Newcastle.

Who did Shearer play for? Did Red Star Belgrade or Nottingham Forrest come and buy him? Or you want to compare Blackburn and Newcastle to those 2 great clubs?

Did Shearer even play outside England?

What international competition did Shearer win? Owen won the UEFA Cup for Liverpool, and even the UEFA Super Cup where he scored a goal and was Man of the Match.

Owen also scored 40 goals for England while Shearer only scored 30.

Shearer only won 1 league title in his career, Owen won 1 league title, 1 FA Cup, 3 League Cups, 2 FA Community Shields, 1 UEFA Cup and 1 UEFA Super Cup.

Owen is greater than Shearer."

The ratiocination of a pure person! And the person has a right to vote.

bassette: all i can say is that this breaks my heart witnessing this sort of occurrence in a country we term as 'home'!...but its baffling to see that a judge that must have gone thru undergraduate school to mandatory law school to years of practice and qualification for positions only to preside over a matter like this and then give such childish and mud rubbing judgement so to speak! what a NIGERIA!!!

Believe me, majority of Nigerians deserve these kinds of stories. Majority are fucktards with the brain of a toad that would pray for this kind of selfish heartless man.

See our Nigerian fucktards praying:

www.nairaland.com/1056780/nairaland-prayer-network-patience-jonathan/

That is why they deserve a moronic judge that would give a fine of N750 that the stolen funds would have acquired in interest under one month in a bank account.

Majority deserve their person leaders and person societies because they are mainly fucktards.

[quote author=A-40]Hahahaha I'd be standing at ur frontyard yelling bring em out bring em out! Abi how TI take talk am? You are an idi0t of Leviathan proportions and I would keep exposing it till there's nothing left


Bring it on you phucking farm-tool let me shoot you with your own bullet.


What a douche! If Blessing Okagbare wins 100 Mobil Track and Field Championships and Mary Onyali wins 1 Olympic gold medal! Who would be remembered as greater?
When Arsenal win just one Champions League title I would gladly retract my statement


They have more finances? And? Anzhi Makachala has finances so does Man City does that make them greater than Porto or Benfica?
Success my arse! They are approaching their 8th year without a trophy. So much for a big club



I didn't say bigger you Ekwensu! Akpasusu! I said they where peers!! Of a truth you are not smarter than a used tampon. As far as onfield success goes they are peers!! Unlike you I'm not foooled by their recent successes
Commercial revenue,funds,stars come and go but the trophies stay!!! So any sensible person would attach more premium on trophies![/quote]You are a person!

I knew your moronic arsse would see your folly and moronically stick with defiance. Like a typical person Nigerian product of a failed education system. Cretin!

So according to you then Liverpool is a bigger club than Barcelona and Man U since they have won more CLs.

Any player playing for Liverpool is playing for a bigger club than a player playing for Barcelona.

Any player playing for Nottingham Forrest, Red Star Belgrade or Steaua Bucuresti today is playing for a bigger club than someone playing for Arsenal, Roma, Valencia, PSG, Man City, CSKA Moscow, Lazio, Werder Bremen, Atletico Madrid, Dynamo Kiev or Lyon.

Foool!

Hence Jonathan Greening is a bigger player than Yaya Toure since Nottingham Forrest did not come and buy Yaya.

Darius Henderson and Leandro Tatu are bigger strikers than Tevez and Aguero put together.

Reasoning of a person!

I am so good at proving people are fucktards!

Fucktards always struggle with analogies. That is how you spot a person. If Onyali wins Olympics, she is likely to have run a faster time, so she would be better, cretin.

https://www.nairaland.com/1094114/what-occupies-minds-atheists-24/4#12884413

Chongaiman: Same old same old. Poor lonely, deluded bum. Are you still yet to notice the similarities between your attitude and those of the BH guys? You are a joke. . .though to be pitied. Now go home to sexuality section. You must have learnt your favourite word there. Go home and get HELP on your way.

BTW could get another sexy favourite from the sexuality section? Your present favourite is kind of stale - except of course if you are just an experimental spambot. . .

WHERE ARE YOUR SMILEYS? WHO SAID YOU CAN'T LIVE A LIE?

You are a person!

How are you untrained animals much different from Boko Haram?

FXKing2012: If she were your sister you'd have supported the ruling by the judge. Your reason for going against the ruling is borne out of selfish reasons, not justice.

You are a person!

"If she were (sic) your sister"? That is not what sounds selfish to you? It is the decision that has no emotional connections that is selfish?

Cretin!

dayokanu: Those are rankings by different individual/bodies.

No single one has Yekini ahead of Kanu

Ranking of top 3 would vary between Milla, Etoo and Weah

Just like in the world it would vary between Messi, Mardona and pele

You are going to select Kanu in your team as number one on the sheet despite the fact that:

- He would not be able to last 90mins, since majority of his career, he is a sub or is being subbed if he played at all.
- He would not be able to score, as he has an extremely low score rate compared to Yekini, Mboma or even Adebayor.
- He would not be able to control the game, dribble or give decisive passes, like Okocha would or even score like Okocha.

So what is he adding to the team? Tiredness and snail pace?

You are a very bad coach. I would not allow you manage Sagamu "Team D" FC.

[quote author=A-40]Dejo Tumfulu doesn't know when to stop. Can you please show where I said Liverpool is bigger than Barcelona never mind Madrid? You must suffer Tourette's syndrome or one very rare disease that phucks with your mental coordination
Get back to me when Arsenal become a one-time European Champion never mind two[/quote]You are a person!

Let me dice you one-by-one so you don't hide your fucktardism under long posts.

We will come back to the Zico and 60s parity of League idiocy afterwards for more dicing of a person suya.

You moronic arsse said like a pure person that Nottingham Forrest is a bigger club than Arsenal purely because Nottingham Forrest has won more international cups than Arsenal.

Your cretinous arsse made this moronic claim despite the fact that Arsenal has won 13 League titles (3rd highest in England) in comparison to Nottingham Forrest's 1 League title, and Arsenal's 10 FA Cups (2nd Highest in England) in comparison to Nottingham Forrest's 2 FA Cups.

All that and the fact that Arsenal has more finances, has more superstars playing for it and has more success in the last 20 years did not matter to your daft arsse. According to a person like you, "Nottingham Forrest has won 2 Champions League that makes them a bigger club than Arsenal, period".

So, by logical inference, Liverpool in your person world that has won 5 Champions League must be a bigger club than Barcelona that has won a mere 4 Champions League.

Liverpool must even be a bigger club than Man U that has won a measly 3 Champions League too. Isn't it? Fooooool!

Cretin, can you see how dumb you are now?

dayokanu: Supersport recently compiled a list of Nigeria’s 50 Greatest Football Players. You can read the full press release about it here on supersport.com. What do you think about the list?

Kanu tops the list at number 1

1. Nwankwo Kanu
2. Austin Okocha
3. Sunday Oliseh
4. Rashidi Yekini
5. Segun Odegbami

http://www.cp-africa.com/2011/06/20/supersport-nigerias-50-greatest-football-players/

http://mytngonline.com/top-10-greatest-african-players-ever/

http://sport.uk.msn.com/football/10-greatest-african-players-29#image=11

dayokanu: performance and awards received.

10. Thomas Nkono Thomas Nkono Thomas Nkono is the best African goalkeeper of all time. He won the African Footballer of the Year in 1979 and 1982. He played in three World Cups (1982, 1990 and 1994) for Cameroon. Italian Keeper Gianlugi Buffon named his first son Thomas (born December 28, 2007) after Thomas Nkono, who used to be his favorite goalkeeper.

9. Hossam Hassan Hossam Hassan Hossam Hassan is the most capped African Player with 169 international matches and 69 goals. He won the African Nations Cup thrice (1986, 1998, 2006) and played in the 1990 World Cup. He won 13 league titles in the Egyptian League and two African Champions League (1987, 2002).

8. Rabah Madjer Rabah Madjer Rabah Madjer won the African Footballer of the Year in 1987 and also the European Champions Cup in the same year with FC Porto. He won the African Nations Cup in 1990, UEFA Super Cup, three Portuguese League titles and other awards in his playing days.

7. Kalusha Bwalya Kalushya Bwalya Kalusha Bwalya is the most capped all-time goal scorer with 50 goals and captain of the famous KK Eleven of the Zambian National Team. He won the African Footballer of the Year in 1988 and was the 12th best in the FIFA World Player of the Year 1996.

6. Kanu Nwankwo Kanu Nwankwo Kanu Nwankwo won the European Champions League, UEFA Super Cup and the Dutch Title all in 1995. He also won the African Footballer of the Year in 1996, 1999 and was the 6th FIFA World Player of the Year in 1999. He won the Olympic Gold medal in 1996, two English Premier League titles, two English FA Cups and a few other awards.

5. Didier Drogba Didier Drogba Didier Drogba is the Cote d’lvoire all-time top scorer with 45 goals in 71 matches. He won the African Footballer of the Year in 2006 and 2009. He won three English Premier League, three FA Cups and other various awards. He was also included in the Time Magazine list of World Top 100 most influential people in the world in 2010.

4. Abedi Pele Abedi Pele Abedi Pele is the all-time Ghana top scorer with 33 goals in 73 games. He won the African Nations Cup in 1982 and was the African Footballer of the Year in 1991 and 1992. He won four league titles and one European Champions Cup with Marseille (1993). He was the 9th FIFA World Player of the Year in 1992.

3. George Weah George Weah George Weah won the 1995 FIFA World Player of the Year, 1995 European Player of the Year and the African Footballer of the Year twice (1989 and 1995). George Weah lost narrowly in the Liberian Presidential elections in 2005.

2. Roger Milla Roger Milla Roger Milla won the African Footballer of the year twice (1976 and 1990) and the African Nations Cup twice (1984 and 1988). Roger Milla achieved international stardom at 38 scoring four goals at the 1990 World Cup and he is the oldest goal scorer in the World Cup at 42 in USA’94.

1. Samuel Eto’o Samuel Eto Samuel Eto’o is the most decorated African Player of all time and Cameroon all-time top scorer with 52 goals. He is the only player to have won the African Footballer of the Year award four times (2003, 2004, 2005, and 2010). He has played in three World Cups, six African Nations Cups, and he is the all-time leading scorer in the African Nations Cup with 18 goals. He is the first ever player to win two European Trebles back to back with Barcelona and Internazionale. He won the Olympic Gold Medal in 2000 and was the 3rd FIFA World Player of the Year in 2005.

You list a rating that list Milla above Weah?

Oliseh above Yekini?

DK, you have no shame.

dayokanu: Won Olympics gold for Nigeria our greatest footballing achievement

And after that?

dayokanu: 1. KING KANU
2. Diouf
3. Adebayor
4. Yekini
5. Mboma
6. Ikpeba
7. okocha
8. Siasia
9. Amokachie
10. Odemwengie

Mikel and Essien wont be considering for any attacking roles by me

Worst coach I have ever seen in my life.

What has Kanu ever done playing 90 mins.

Dayokanu,

If you a going to coach a WC final team, WC final o, where you are not allowed any substituition, in what order will you select the following players on your team list assuming all defenders, wingers and defensive midfield has been selected:

Rashidi Yekini, Mboma, Okocha, Kanu, Ikpeba, El Hadji Diouf, Siasia, Amokachie, Adebayor, Odemwingie, Mikel, Essien.

List by numbering with order of priority.

dayokanu: You forgot Batistuta played for Serie A champions AS Roma? Abi you need Agunmu iba?

Bebeto played for Flamento thats a big club right there

Ability would be appreciated by TOP clubs who house TOP players and this would make you win awards and possibly trophies.

Definitely PSG was drunk at that time and were suffering from the same thing that happened to Real betis. Money drunk is it like Gowon. Like Anzhi Machakachala buying a player

Betis bought Denilson for a world record What does that make real betis? MAGA in capital letters Magacious Magas. Wannabee top clubs Paying 35m and 24m for circus entertainers

Is AS Roma a big club?

What has AS ROMA won?

So Flamento (sic) is a big club but PSG is not? The same Flamengo you can not even spell right?

So South America was not drunk when they voted Bebeto and Batistuta that did not play for big clubs player of the year?

You are stuggling mate. Judge players by obvious ability instead of awards and what cup their team won and you will not struggle. and you will NEVER say Kanu is greater than Keita.

dayokanu: Sagamite you need specsavers

batistuta won the Serie A title as the top striker for AS Roma, Won COPA America for Argentina, won Confederations cup for Argentina he was 3rd in Fifa ranking for 1999

Brazil won the world cup and Bebeto was one of their top performers

Kanu played at Brom and Portsmouth at the tail end of his career not when he was the darling of Europe.

Kanus peak years 1995 to 2003

PSG bought Okocha like Real betis bought Denilson. I bet Denilson must be the best player of his generation.

Okocha a career of how many yrs No single top club looked his way? Shey he shiit for body ni?

BATISTUTA DID NOT PLAY FOR A BIG CLUB!

So he must be rubbish!

BEBETO DID NOT PLAY FOR A BIG CLUB!

So he must be rubbish!

Now you are opening your mouth to rationalise with Bebeto's ability? Did I not tell you ability should be the primary mode?

Did Okocha not win Olympics over Bebeto?

Was Okocha not the highest scoring midlfielder for his club?

So if no club saw anything in Okocha why did PSG pay £24? They had Gowon as the President who thought "money is not our problem, how to spend it is"?

dayokanu: Bebeto showed his ability by winning the world cup, COPA America, Confederations cup and he won personal award like South American player of the year. Tell us about jayjay

Zicos ability was seen by Flamengo the top club in brazil and they bought him, won South American footballer of the year award and He won sevral titles for his clud including Brazilian championship and world club cup Tell us about Jayjay Okocha

Socrates was names South American footballer of the year in recognition of his abilities (Tell us about jayjay)

Batistuta- His talent was recognized by top clubs in the Italians league he won the Serie A title(Possibly the best league at that time), Was 3rd in WPOTY ranking, WOn the COPA America, won confederations cup as a key player for his team (tell us about Jayjay)


Kanu was on the bench because he was playing at a top club where there was competition for places, If Kanu was playing at Fernerbace, Frankfurt and Bolton he would be copping 100 appearance every season. If Okocha had played at Inter, Arsenal he would never smell first team maybe play with reserves all yr round cos his quality are not fit for a top club

Victor Moses was Superstar in Wigan a bottom club, the same Victor Moses is a sub for Chelsea a top club. Same with Scott Sinclair etc

Bebeto did not win the WC, Brazil won the WC.

Okocha was consistently in the top 3 for AFoY and in contention for 7 straight years. I know to you, only the person that won matters.

So Batistuta did not win anything, then to you he must be rubbish then. Cut the crap about he was recognised blah blah blah. You think PSG's owners had £24m to waste that is why they paid that for Okocha?

Kanu played for West Brom and Portsmouth and was still very affiable to the nice benches. So what are you talking about that he would be first team player with Fenebache and Bolton?

FXKing2012: Follow the link below to see what I've been talking about, it's just great as it'll help make Nigerian men more respectful of women.

www.nairaland.com/1180192/court-asks-dr-soleye-pay#14085081

The judge is a lunatic and you are a lunatic for supporting his judgement.

You are in their home to know what happened or happens between them to make him want to leave the relationship?

What place is there for the state or court system to determine who should be in a relationship with who?

The moronic judgee had the audacity like a bloody illiterate to state the other wife should pay compensation and your dumb arsse brought it here as sense?

Maybe courts would soon be fining people for flirting with other's spouse and you would applaud that too.

dayokanu: How do you assess a players ability, Are you saying Only Sagamite could see Okochas ability and none of the big clubs in Europe could see it? CAF couldnt see it, FIFA couldnt see it

Does he keep these supreme abilities under his clothes?

When you have the ability, people would see it, clubs would pay for it, you would play in top clubs and win laurels and your ability would be rewarded with personal awards, if in a good team with trophies

Based on ability to entertain like Okocha has, Denilson should be the best player ever, Odartey Lamptey should be Africas number 1, Quaresma should be perpetual ballon D or

So you are saying Bebeto, Zico, Socrates, Gascoigne, Batistuta did not have ability?

So sitting on the bench is greater contribution to football than entertainment on the pitch?

A midfielder on the pitch that scores far more than a striker who's arsse is like the iron ironning the bench is poor but the striker is good?

Chongaiman: Sagamite,
The most difficult prison to escape from is the one you build around yourself. You go about ranting like the sociopath that you are, deluding yourself that you are making meaningful exchanges. It is just too obvious that you are psychotic judging from your antecedent on NL. You are one lost, lonesome, pathetic soul. Keep on hallucinating but get HELP while at it. Now go to the sexuality section where you feel much more at home for some happy hours. . .

You are a person!

How to escape is to say: Yes, I am dumb. Yes, I know we are animals in the Nigerian Militia. I am sorry God for challenging you. From now on, I will worship you and no other God.

person, you got that?

coogar: why are these guys arguing sef?
no 30-man list of the best players in africa can be the same. people have different opinions and favourites when it comes to football. even in the clubs we support, we have different players we see as the best, the most influential, the most important, etc. that being said, i don't see why sagamite's list is causing so much rancour. if anyone does not agree with the list, let him also provide his list!

as for the kanu debate - he's a good player but he wasn't a ball of fire for his national team. in the context of doing it for the national team, jules bocande, titi camara, samson siasia and even keshi all deserve a mention! in club level competition, kanu was too much of a peripheral in the big clubs he played for to be mentioned! you people should get real and argue about something more exciting, this is boring already!

Yes, people have different opinions, but these moronic person is talking about BENNI MCCARTHY?

That is not an opinion, that is mooron-icity!

Virtually all the 30 in my list will send fear down any opposition's spine, especially the top 10. The top 3 would be bought with delight at the snap of a finger by virtually any club in the world that can afford them. They would make opposition freeze and start thinking of "how can we get a draw score".

BENNI MCCARTHY? He would not even strike half the fear ordinary Demba Ba would strike.

I can appreciate people talking about Mboma. Even El Hadji Diouf as poor as that choice is. But BENNI MCCARTHY? ONE OF THE GREATEST AFRICAN FOOTBALLERS?

He needs to have 10 people use a pestle to smash his daft brain!

dayokanu: So how does this fit into the Kanu vs Okocha narrative?

Kanu was best in Africa twice, Number 6 in the whole world

At least you have to show us Jayjay was top 5 for 10 seasons in Africa and ever mentioned in contention for WPOTY or Ballon D or to be considered at all

It is not only fitting into the Okocha and Kanu narrative, it is fitting into your entire philosophy's narrative.

Assess people based on ability, awards should be secondary, team wins should be tertiary.

Good teams and good players sometimes do not win something. If you assess based on ability, YOU WILL NEVER GO WRONG!

Then you will not come to the conclusion where you would say Kanu is greater than Keita or Ikpeba/Adebayor is greater than Yeboah.

That is how in a few years now, we will have some new player win WPoY twice and automatically, you would say he is better than Cristiano because he won it twice and CR only won it once. Not considering CR came second several times to the greatest. You will say the person playing in another era has more awards and played for Man U or Barcelona so he is greater.

JUDGE PLAYERS BASED ON:

- ABILITY
- LEVEL PLAYED AT
- INFLUENCE ON TEAM

Then you will know Bebeto, Gascoigne, Keita, Eusebio, Zico, Batistuta etc were great.

Then you will know Okocha was greater than Kanu.

Also TEAMS win championships and cups except a player is carrying the team like Maradona/Argentina, Henry/Arsenal etc.

Note: Van Nisterooy, Lampard and Raul score a lot of goals but they do not carry the team. So they can never be said to be in the league of Henry, Edgar Davids, Nedved, CR etc

[quote author=A-40]You are an ignorant buffoon but I would contribute my quota to society and educate you anyway.
First and foremost football did not start today you don't wave away decades of achievements because of a few good seasons!! I repeat pedigree,trophies are what makes a big club not who plays there at the moment you Tool!!
If Man City please let them sign Messi! They are still a small club[/quote]You are a person!

Any cretin that says Nottingham Forrest is a bigger club than Arsenal is a person!

Any cretin that says Liverpool is a bigger club than Barcelona or Real Madrid is a person!

Football teams are judged by their history and current standings in the world of intelligent people. Their history is not restricted to wins, you bloody cretin, people or teams coming second or third are not small because they did not win except to a cretin!

Are you jotting that education down, fooool!

[quote author=A-40]18 League titles,Seven FA Cups, 5 Time European Champs,3 Uefa cups,3 supercups
Please tell us how they are not peers! In the assembly of schizophrenics you should be crowned King. Asiwere
Johnny Just Come

In case you missed the point "A big club wins and wins consistently"[/quote]You are a person!


Continue quoting what they won more than 30 years ago and say that makes them a big club today! Cretin!

Has Uruguay not won more consistently than Holland and Portugal?

So Uruguay is a bigger footballing team than Holland or even Portugal?

Cretin!

[quote author=A-40]Who where the Brazilian players travelling to Europe? Name them? When people that know the game are talking you should shut da phuck up!! Know your role and shut your damn mouth!!
Toulalan like you didn't know that those days the South American Leagues where ridiculously tough
This clown actually thinks Pele didn't play at a big club! Tostao,Gerson,Rivelino,Garrincha,Zico all stayed in Brazil! Not for lack of talent but because going to Europe was actually not a step forward!
And wait there's more from 1979-1989 in the Intercontinental Cup (competition I'm sure your mentally handicapped self has never heard of)
South American clubs actually outshone European ones
Head to head was 8-3

So yet again your general lack of knowledge on any subject matter has been exposed to all and sundry[/quote]You are a person!

Didi? Mazzola? Jair Da Costa? Amarildo? Marcelo Pagani? All those players leaving South America to play in Europe in the 60s?

Cretin, Zico stayed in Brazil? He did not play in Udinese? FOOOOOOOOL!

Your moronic, dumb arsse did not check your facts before your vomitted your stupidity? Your person arsse is opening your arsse (which is basically your mouth) to talk about mental handicap?

person, are Zico and Socrates poor players?

[quote author=A-40]Paul Gascoigne a great?? Hahahahahaha keep enlarging your coast of idiocy!! Gascoigne ko Gasket ni! Do you think we are arguing about who can consume the most pints of beer here?[/quote]You are a person! So Micheal Owen is greater than Gascoigne?

[quote author=A-40]We all fear Okocha on the pitch! But no top manager saw it fit to sign him! Get back to me when Okocha leads his team to back to back World Cup qualifications[/quote]You are a person!

So you know Okocha is the one to fear but your moronic, mentally deficient arsse sees McCarthy as a great over Okocha?

You see how dumb you are?

Right on your notepad that you are dumb. It is part of the education.

[quote author=A-40]Hahahaha Flamengo that won the Copa Libertadores and World Club cup as well is not a big club but Fenerbache and PSG are?
Keep exposing your cluelessness we are all watching[/quote]You are a person!

If Flamengo is bigger than those 2, how come players are not flocking their?

You moronic arsse would even say TP Mazembe is a bigger club than Anderlecht.

person, explain to me why Zico did not play for a big club and does that make him any less great? Why did Barcelona, RM, AC, Inter etc did not see it fit to buy him?

[quote author=A-40]What is this confused maricon talking about?? Did Katongo win the Premiership and UCL? Or where does the comparison come in? Drogba has won more medals for his team,more individual accolades,scored more goals! Where does the comparison come in?[/quote]person, according to your moronic logic, Katongo led a team that beat Drogba's team so Katongo must be better. Drogba could not win him.

That is the logical reasoning of mentally deficient cretins!

[quote author=A-40]You an intellectual? Your IQ is about the temperature of the North pole right now! You are about as coordinated as a newborn giraffe
If not for human rights violation you woulda been neutered and euthanized[/quote]Your moronic arsse that said a player playing for Nottingham Forrest is playing for a bigger club than a player playing for Arsenal and Man City is a vegetable.

Cretin, I am sure your moronic arsse does not even know what IQ is because you are too dumb.

dayokanu: Awards are not given for their hairstyles not they height awards are given by experts for players contribution

Soyinka won a Nobel you think he was fucccking the committee that gave him?

So someone spends three seasons shining, winning 2 awards and then falls to obscurity, and another spends 15 seasons shining and coming top 5 in awards in ten different years and top 15 in the next five, according to your assessment criteria, the former that won 2 awards is better?

That is the outcome of faulty reasoning of who "won award". I believe in looking at ability.

dayokanu: First of all Samuel Etoo is better than Roger Milla.

Kanu had one good game? i am sure you didnt watch the tournament Did you watch the match against Hungary? Did you watch the final against Argentina?

Let me take you to France 98, How many good games did Zidane have?

Kanu was another ordinary member of the team until the last 2 matches.

Chongaiman: ^^^
Delusions of grandeur!!! So serving in the British Army has now been likened to marching through NL sexuality section? Ok, I take back my words. . . Your type is not to be found in ANY security organisation. You should be in a mental home. . . See what happens when the brain lies redundant for extended periods? Which of the famous British generals would you be today? Wellesley? Montgomery? Slim? Allenby? BTW have heard of the AMH Army? [size=1pt]Aro Mental Home Army[/size]. There, your type can be all they can! Get help fast, oga general. . . .

You are a person!

My type will never join reetards like you. Your person arsse is talking about brains?

Did you show the sign of having any when your moronic arsse decided to step to your Intellectual God?

See what person animals like you are doing:

http://saharareporters.com/news-page/widow-drags-nigerian-army-lagos-government-court-over-arbitrary-killing-husband-op-messa-s

Private Audu Aminu reportedly ordered Mr. Orjieh to pay Ms. Olubunmi the amount that was allegedly defrauded of her, and to reclaim the sum from the alleged cheater later. Mr. Orjieh refused,explaining that he did not know who the alleged cheater-operator was, and could not determine how true the purported transaction was or the amount involved. Angered by Mr. Orjieh’s refusal, Private Audu pointed his gun at the jaw of the victim who was attending to other customers.

Moronic animals like you that we packed in a Militia and gave guns to.

Fooooool!

[quote author=A-40]Man City playing in their 2nd Champions League in their history are a big club? Won their first league title in 44 years last year are a big club? Hahahahahahaha! Hahahahahaha!
If you don't know about Porto and Benfica you better do your research and stop exposing yourself as a jackass!
PSG with less than 10 league titles and only 1 international trophy in their history which doesn't even exist anymore are a big club! Bigger than Porto and Benfica! Jesu sukun! See what sugar daddy syndrome has caused. You would soon tell us Malaga are a big club[/quote]You are a person, you still don't get the point.

If a player is playing for Man City or Arsenal today and another player is playing for Benfica or Porto, who is playing for a bigger club?

[quote author=A-40]Lool look at this boring monotonous ret@rd. Liverpool and Barca are more or less peers! 5 times European Champions to 4 times European champions! 6 or half a dozen. Only thing Barca have going for them is recent dominance

Nottingham is bigger than Arsenal! Till Arsenal win the CL they can never be regarded as a big club you sh!tbrick[/quote]This is why you are a person!

So according to your dumb logic anyone playing for Nottingham forest is playing for a bigger club than someone playing for Arsenal?

Liverpool is a peer to Barcelona?

Can you see the outcome of the reasoning of a cretin?

[quote author=A-40]Are you blind? Deaf? Dumb? Or do you suffer from all three infirmities! I clearly wrote that you become a big club by winning and winning consistently.[/quote]You are a person.

Uruguay has won 2 WC, Holland has won none. So Uruguay is, according to your moronic logic, bigger footballing nation than Holland?

[quote author=A-40]Hehehe I can't stop laughing at this intellectually bankrupt blockhead! Little does this simpleton know that back then the standards of the leagues in South America was as high as Europe! So a Flamengo,Santos,Corinthians,Independiente,Boca Juniors = Utd,Madrid,Barca,Bayern,Liverpool,Juve
Which meant the great players then never needed to leave Brazil
Walahi I would not stop till I expose your ignorance for the whole world to see[/quote]You are a person!

That is why Brazilian players were travelling to Europe to play?

So football in the 80s in South America was at the same level as Europe? You are a cretin! You are stuggling to defend you moronic logic?

So Zico and Socrates are rubbish players?

Gascoigne is not an English great because he never played for a big club? Owen is greater because he played for Real Madrid, Man U and Liverpool?

[quote author=A-40]Lol @ this peeon! I'm not obliged to answer a question from you. Okocha was so dangerous yet he spent all his playing days at 2nd-3rd rate clubs and won absolutely nothing!!! Only an autistic sack of vomit fluid like you would compare his case to a Zico that won the Copa Libertadores and Intercontinental cup[/quote]You are a person!

So you can see your folly so you are running from the question?

Benni is great but you fear Okocha on the pitch more than him? Foooooooool!

What was Zico's case? Why did he not play for a big club? Cretin!

[quote author=A-40]They won CIV at a cup final? Do they have more ANC's than CIV? How can you say they are a better team when they don't even have the records to match? No World Cup appearance for Zambia abi you expect CIV to win the World Cup?

Haha even a f00l is thought to be wise till he opens his mouth. Why not shut up and let's keep assuming you are one instead of opening your mouth and confirming our suspicions[/quote]You are a person!

They won CIV, hence, according to your moronic logic, they are a better team than CIV and Katongo that "won it for them" (the typical argument of cretins like you) is a better player than Drogba that could not "win it" for CIV?

[quote author=A-40]If you can't stand democracy why not go to the jungle! There's more than enough space to contain a bush pig like you[/quote]We intellectuals need to put cretins like you in a cage with baboons instead of giving you a right to vote and contribute your daftness.

A person that says someone playing for Nottingham Forrest is playing for a bigger club than someone that plays for Arsenal.

Foooool!

[quote author=A-40]Lmao at this binary,self-enamored,simple minded piece of shyte

By all ramifications PSG and Fenerbache are small clubs! Tottenham is a small club so is Man City,Arsenal Leverkussen,Schalke! They have no phucking pedigree you !mbecile!! What is their history? Who are their legends? This blathering eediot is busy listing Rave of the moment clubs

In the pantheon of big clubs Madrid,Bayern,Juve,Barca,Milan,Ajax,Man Utd,Benfica,Inter only an unrepentant anuofia like you would list Man City,Schalke and Tottenham among the big clubs[/quote]You are a person!

Man City, Arsenal and PSG are small clubs but Porto and Benfica are big clubs?

You are a cretin! When I told you to shut up, I knew you were a cretin!

[quote author=A-40]You become a big club by winning and winning consistently. So where's my hors d'oeuvres minion[/quote]You are a person!

So Liverpool is a bigger club than Barcelona because they have won more Champions League? Fooool!

So Nottingham Forest is a bigger club than Arsenal because they have won Champions League a few times and Arsenal has never? Fooool!

So Uruguay is a big footballing country because they won things back in the day? Fooool!

So Zaire is a bigger footballing nation than Tunisia because they have won more Afcons? Fooool!

Even Steaua București is bigger than Bayer Levekusen because they have won Champions League and Levekusen has never? Foooool!

Cretins without ratiocinating abilities that have to take simpleton approach to analysis.

[quote author=A-40]Some players have a relatively better career for club than for country and vice-versa but expecting a nimrod like you to understand that is like expecting Ahmadinejad to turn to Christ
When they talk about Brazilian greats in recent years they mention Ronaldo,Romario,Rivaldo,Ronaldinho before Bebeto and can you tell us why you swine![/quote]You are a person!

But you your moronic arsse said a player is not great because he never played for a big club. Your brain is too daft to understand and ratiocinate why a good player might not play for a big club?

person, lets not even talk about Pele and Garrincha, do you think majority of those players will compare to Zico? Or Socrates? Did Zico and Socrates play for big clubs? They were not great because they did not play for big clubs? FOOOOOL!

Gascoigne is a useless player because he did not play for big clubs?

[quote author=A-40]Okocha was such a beast that no decent club wanted him!! Played no tangible role in any team that won a trophy in an over 15 year career.
If I called you a m0ron I would be insulting m0rons! Your vocab cache is about expansive as that of a mollusc[/quote]You are a person, answer the question you are running from and look like the person you are:

person, an opposition team would see Okocha and Benni McCarthy's name on a team sheet and the coach would say "Benni is the one we need to stop, he is scary and can change the game"?

[quote author=A-40]What is Zambia's record compared to CIV?? Have they ever been to the World Cup? Doesn't CIV have a Nations Cup title to their name as well?
You must be off your rockers maybe a little schitz[/quote]You are a person!

They won CIV to a cup in a final, according to your moronic logic, does that make them a better team than CIV? What did CIV win at the WC? Zambia won the ANC over CIV?

Apply your moronic logic lets see.

Cretins that expose why democracy is stewpid!

omar22: Midfielder are not measured by goals, Xavi won the golden Ball at EURO 2008 how many goals did he score? by your logic Lampard is better than Zidane

No mind am!

Persin wan compare a Midfielder that creates a game to a midfielder that plays.

omar22: Benni didnt even start the final, he came on when it was 3 Nil

Even if he started the final, and so what?

Na only Dayokanu attributes greatness to starting a Champions League final.

omar22: Best player of the tournament or NIgeria's best player.... because he only had one good game which was Brazil (1/6)

Kanu 20 years as a striker only 121 goals (average 6 goals per year) Thierry Henry scored that in 4 years....

According to the words of Michael Johnson - I dont celebrate Mediocre or Average performance!!!! (and cheating)


By your logic Samuel Eto is better than Roger Milla

No min am.

He put a player that was the most successful bench-warmer as a better player than a player that was regarded as one of the best strikers in Europe in his era, Salif Keita.

A player so good the top team in France during that period adopted (IN THE 60s) a Black Panther in their emblem to reflect him. A player that was the equivalent of Pele to Africans in the 70s and would ensure stadiums are packed when he played. A player a town in France named a stadium after.

That is the player DK put bench-warming Kanu over. And I am sure he would even put El Hadji Diouf over him because DK would say "He won 2 APoY, while Keita only won 1. He also played at the WC while Keita never".

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/africa/3218333.stm

http://www.fifa.com/classicfootball/players/player=214125/index.html

http://www.goal.com/en/slideshow/899/3

Even Amuneke and Ikpeba are better than him because they have won APoY, won ANC, won Olympics, played in WC and played for Barcelona!

Theben: Benni McCarthy won the AFCON with the south African team as a key player if not even the best player in that team. He also played a key role in FC porto champions league victory.

Okocha on the other hand who was part of the team that won the AFCON in 2004 was a mere bench warmer in that tournament.

Lets ignore that McCarthy did not win Afcon. Lets dash you that his spirit helped them win Afcon and his spirit was a key spirit in winning Afcon.

This is what happens when people know nothing about football and then just look at any award and team achievement and then decide a player in that team is great.

So because of what you listed that makes McCarthy better than Okocha?

So Milan Baros was a key player in Liverpool winning champion's league and was Euro Cup highest goal scorer, that makes him a better striker than Gabriel Batistuta or Ruud Van Nisterooy? Even Benni McCarthy must be better than these too na because he was a key striker for Porto when they won Champion's League and these 2 never won it, abi? Those 2 strikers must be inferior because they never won any international cup. They could not inspire their big teams to win any international cup or win the cup for their teams, while McCarthy "won" the Champions league for a smaller club like Porto. McCarthy "won" it for Porto. McCarthy "won" Champions league. And he scored 2 World Cup goals too o. But the most important thing is that he inspired and "won" the Champions league for Porto.

If you were a coach of an opposition team who sees Okocha and Benni McCarthy's name on a team sheet, would you say "Benni is the one we need to stop, he is scary and can change the game"?

dayokanu: Yes to most of those

Amuneke, Ikpeba and Adebayor are better than Yeboah.

And Rivaldo was worlds apart and wayy better than Thierry henry

Then you know nothing about football. You just know about awards.

J12: Stories, sentiments. . . If as a midfielder, he has less goals and assists than lampard, then how is he better?
Mikel has a very high pass completion rate, so lets compare him to Xavi then.
Any good midfielder(Scholes, Pirlo, Riquelme, Modric, Gerrard, Ballack, Sneijder etc) will do well in spain/barca's pattern of playing football. However, it takes an extraordinary midfielder to do more than that(Scoring and assisting).

No, they will not do well in Barca's pattern of play because people like Xavi are the pillar of that.

What does Mikel create?