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Politics / Re: Governors Assemble Legal Team To Challenge Sovereign Wealth Fund by sagaponle: 11:14pm On Sep 04, 2011
Beaf:

We see where you are coming from, bruv; and its a sad stretch of road. embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed
You really are beginning to expose the gory details of ACN's "morality."

www.nairaland.com/attachments/518316_IkuforijiNinjaThief_jpgd221a96311b1a89c01821b803d551a9c

Thieves.

Dont mind Mr. Oxford. Gbawe sef don chop part of our money.

Thats why he thinks people should not be accountable, Ole Gbaweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Sports / Re: Usain Bolt Disqualified For False Start! by sagaponle: 11:13pm On Sep 04, 2011
^^^

So phocking what?

Did any one in your family compete or are they all failures like yourself


Internet gangster ode oshi!
Politics / Re: Meet Lewis Iwu, The First Black President Of Oxford University Student Union by sagaponle: 6:12pm On Sep 04, 2011
^^^

What is wrong with you?
Politics / Re: Governors Assemble Legal Team To Challenge Sovereign Wealth Fund by sagaponle: 6:05pm On Sep 04, 2011
Gbawe:

grin grin grin grin totally agree.

You know I did not go to Oxford like you. I was born on the streets of Bariga, grew up in AJ city and was mentored by area fathers in Ikorodu and Idumota.

You can take the boy out of Lagos, YOU DARE NOT AND CANNOT TAKE LAGOS OUT OF THE BOY.

I proudly represent.  cheesy
Politics / Re: Governors Assemble Legal Team To Challenge Sovereign Wealth Fund by sagaponle: 5:53pm On Sep 04, 2011
Gbawe:

Fstranger, there is general decorum on this thread . Why do you want to ruin that with your schizophrenia !!! Can't you ever talk like a normal person ?


lol

Politics / Re: White Supremacist Talks About How They Kill Millions Of Nigerians by sagaponle: 5:46pm On Sep 04, 2011
buzugee:

chicago. how you know i was in the midwest ?

Where in Chi Town?

I thought you also lived in WI?
Culture / Re: Do We Actually Need English Names by sagaponle: 5:45pm On Sep 04, 2011
ifyalways:

Ajirebi,kilo de,enu jagaga? angry

why this handle?much love for Sagamite undecided


I am really ashamed of you. After spending all your formative years in Lagos, you still cant speak Yoruba fluently. Dyslexic or just retarded? Just asking?


How body? Hope you are still keeping yourself together for that long awaited romp between yourself and yours truly. wink
Politics / Re: White Supremacist Talks About How They Kill Millions Of Nigerians by sagaponle: 5:30pm On Sep 04, 2011
buzugee:

hell nahhhhhhh. am outta dat jungle grin

all a yall that get vaccinations. berra watch out.

Where in the midwest did you live? What part?
Politics / Re: Governors Assemble Legal Team To Challenge Sovereign Wealth Fund by sagaponle: 5:28pm On Sep 04, 2011
mbulela:

you are right but some of us understand federalism but are worried that these lot who call themselves governors are not in it for the love of federalism.
they just want more to loot.
the problem is that leaving the loot in the center fuels the lust of the thieves in Abuja.
whichever way,a thief prospers.
the crux of the matter is finding a way to ensure that our collective resource is used for the benefit of the masses not a few,either in Abuja or the state capitals.

Thank you jare.

When you do not agree with some ediots, they assume you are not as educated as them.  Buncha retarrdds, I call them.
Romance / Re: How Did Your Partner Change Your Life? by sagaponle: 5:27pm On Sep 04, 2011
Lax75:

^^^^ I will pay someone to translate this type of english please. PLEASE!

People like him boku for NL.

Kafi enu kadake
Politics / Re: White Supremacist Talks About How They Kill Millions Of Nigerians by sagaponle: 5:26pm On Sep 04, 2011
buzugee:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64dS18Rtn2U&feature=related

watch the entire video but if you have short attention span, start from the 4 minute mark and end at the 5 minute mark


Are you still in the Mid-West?
Politics / Re: Viva La Shell: Reps Agreed To Serve Shell’s Interest On Petroleum Bill. Wikileak by sagaponle: 5:18pm On Sep 04, 2011
There is no way Dimeji isnt sleeping with these women.

There is no way!
Politics / Viva La Shell: Reps Agreed To Serve Shell’s Interest On Petroleum Bill. Wikileak by sagaponle: 5:11pm On Sep 04, 2011
Reps agreed to serve Shell’s interest on petroleum bill
By Ini Ekott
September 3, 2011 10:58AM
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A United States secret diplomatic cables made public recently by WikiLeaks provides evidence that Nigeria’s House of Representatives may have approved to represent the interest of international oil companies on the Petroleum Industry Bill (PIB).

The latest classified American cables, posted on the anti-government secrecy campaigner’s website last week, contains evidence that officials of oil major, [size=18pt]Shell, secured assurances from the leadership of the House, that should the Senate pass an expected “bad bill”, the House would make necessary reviews in favour of the IOCs.[/size]

[size=15pt]One document quotes a top official of Shell as assuring the then US ambassador to Nigeria, Robin Sanders in 2009, while appraising the crucial bill, that “We aren’t worried,” even if the senate passes an unfavourable version of the bill (as the company actually excepted), since “we are working with the House and the House appears to want to work with us.”[/size]

[s]But the House spokesperson at the time, Eseme Eyiboh, denied that such an allegiance or pledge ever existed, saying the claim by the Shell official was “illusory”.[/s]

[s]“The person making such allegation does not understand how the legislature works,” he said when reached on the phone. “For a bicameral legislature for that matter, if it does not work in the Senate, it cannot work in the House. It is not possible for either the House or the Senate to go anyway without the other following for a decision to be successful.”
[/s]
But the revelation by the secret files, which are part of 2,092 new releases on Nigeria by Wikileaks, offers a fresh insight into the strange under-workings of a lawmaking process that was, and still is, supposed to see through the voluminous bill that promises key reforms in the Nigeria’s lifeline - the oil sector. T[size=18pt]hey speak of an unsavoury partnership between those who make the law, and those targeted by the law[/size].

After three years at the National Assembly, the bill has just this July been recommitted for fresh debates and consideration by the lawmakers.

This came after the document, with more than 400 clauses, scaled the two compulsory readings and committee works at the House and the Senate, and the legislators promised not to repeat the stages reached by the sixth assembly as required by their internal rules.

Yet, with a new session and a needed amendment to that rule in place, both chambers have begun the processes anew, arguing that a constitution amendment would also be needed before such continuity could be implemented.

With the National Assembly’s decision to restart debate on the Bill, the document is towing a path made famous by the Freedom of Information Bill, as one of the most influenced federal bills that spent years on a path dominated by intrigue before becoming law.

Protecting interests

[size=15pt]Now, a fresh layer is added to the multi-tiered underplay that have attended the PIB, with the allegation that the House, under former speaker, Dimeji Bankole, may have brushed off the wishes of the Senate, and agreed to pass a version of the PIB that would be friendly to Anglo-Dutch oil giant, Shell Petroleum and other IOCs.[/size]

[size=18pt]In demonstration of that faith, Ann Pickard, who was the Executive Vice President for Shell Companies in Africa, told then US ambassador, Ms. Sanders, at a meeting in Abuja in 2009, “we need to move quickly to obtain any necessary changes before it becomes law” in the anticipation that the bill would be passed before the end of that year (2009).[/size]

Still, such reversals by the two arms of the legislature with regard to the PIB hardly come strange in the history of the bill. Repeatedly, both arms have promised a speedy delivery of the bill since 2008, but each time, have turned in a fresh schedule for the bill.

Part of the factors for the delay, according to members, has been the multi-faceted interests working covertly to produce a relatively friendly version of the bill.

For instance, while southern and northern legislators have rowed over issues such as the deregulation of petroleum and the ownership of oil as stated by the bill, [color=#990000]oil multinationals have pressured lawmakers on subjects like gas flaring and requirements that they pay more royalties to the federal government.[/color]

The files released by Wikileaks did not state clearly whether or not the House leadership agreed to soften the bill on gas flaring by extending the effective date of a ban from the initial 2010. They, however, hinted at the confidence the oil companies had in believing that they would influence any outcome of the entire process to their favour. While the original PIB required an end to gas flaring by 2010, Ms. Pickard insisted that the industry would not be able to do that due to the lack of investment and security, the document quoted.

Immediate end to gas flaring would cost the company $4 billion, she said, and would force it to shut in oil production in fields where it was “uneconomic to end gas flaring”, and it would let others have the gas for free where it was economic to do so.

Ms. Picket met with the US ambassador on October, 20, 2009, according the document which was reported and sent to Washington by a US diplomatic staff.

[size=18pt]She told Ms. Sanders that “Unfortunately, we think the Senate will pass a bad bill”, but added that “it won’t really matter” since the House had agreed to work with them.[/size]

She also informed the ambassador that it would be helpful if the Embassy would “continue to deliver low-level messages of concern and call on the Speaker of the House to see where he stood on the bill”, assuring that there was “total alignment” among the International Oil Companies and with the Nigerian oil companies on the bill.


http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5740116-146/story.csp
Religion / Re: Why Do People Sleep In Church by sagaponle: 5:07pm On Sep 04, 2011
maybe because they have no where to sleep at home.

Seriously, why is this topic on the home page?
Romance / Re: Who Has Never Been In Love Before? by sagaponle: 5:06pm On Sep 04, 2011
deal_ordea:

that one too much,

grin grin grin, Good advice, She will find true love there

Yeah, I try to do everything big.
Politics / Re: Policemen And OPC Members Clash In Oyo by sagaponle: 4:56pm On Sep 04, 2011
May we see more of this IJN
Romance / Re: Who Has Never Been In Love Before? by sagaponle: 4:56pm On Sep 04, 2011
Who needs love when you can phock pr/o/s/s/t/i/t/u/tes with your tax return and financial aid money.
Romance / Re: How Did Your Partner Change Your Life? by sagaponle: 4:52pm On Sep 04, 2011
I killed my partner, forever changing her life.
Culture / Re: Do We Actually Need English Names by sagaponle: 4:50pm On Sep 04, 2011
Yes we do. The make more sense than Ibo names.

Ify baby, me likey to phock you from your shyyt-full arse while your husband watches. Are you down?
Politics / Re: Governors Assemble Legal Team To Challenge Sovereign Wealth Fund by sagaponle: 4:44pm On Sep 04, 2011
^^^

Example of the US govt withholding federal dollars from states:

http://drkatesview./2011/03/11/is-obama-bribing-the-states-on-eligibility/

http://liveaction.org/blog/obama-threatens-to-cut-off-indiana-healthcare-funds/

http://www.laborunionreport.com/portal/2011/05/us-dept-of-labor-withholds-grant-money-to-texas-bus-service-due-to-union-dispute/

http://broken-government.com/?p=1852

Again, I reiterate, the FG is doing nothing absurd here, Mr. Gbawe.


PS: there is nothing autocratic about the FG holding on to federal money. The money belongs to the feds and they can spend it how ever they deem fit or not even spend it at all.

Mr. Gbawe go back to Oxford for a post-grad. You are out of your depth here.
Politics / Re: Governors Assemble Legal Team To Challenge Sovereign Wealth Fund by sagaponle: 4:37pm On Sep 04, 2011
kulutempa:

From  a purely legal perspective, I think the governors are on a wild goose chase and would simply end up enriching the lawyers.  All that the Sovereign Wealth Fund legislation has done is to put on a legal basis, the previous excess crude account into which  excess earnings above a particular oil price benchmark were previously paid.  However there was no legal foundation for that account and as a result  it was used for all sorts of undocumented purposes.  The Sovereign Wealth Fund has now provided a legal basis for the excess crude oil receipts and the problem for the state governors it that the fund does not form part of  the Federation Account.  A similar challenge was made in the case of Attorney General of Ogun State vs Attorney General of the Federation in 2002, in respect of proceeds of the government privatisation exercise, but that case was thrown out of court because it was decided that the such proceeds are not payable into the Federation account.   Since the Sovereign Wealth Funds is similarly ring fenced, I fail to see how the governors would be able to get their hands at it.  However, it should be quite an interesting case our hot shot lawyers, who should have a profitable day in court, whichever way the case goes.

And also, if they are really serious, why pick Olisa Agbakoba to head the team? This is nothing but paddy-paddy crap going on here. Olisa Agbkoba made his name as a Human rights lawyer and he hasnt practiced actively for some years now. Nothing in his CV tells us he has any substantial experience taking on cases like this, and yet he is heading a team that is supposed to be challenging the federal government on what belongs to the federal government.

This Amaechi guy is just a clown! I refuse to take him seriously.

Next story please!
Politics / Re: Governors Assemble Legal Team To Challenge Sovereign Wealth Fund by sagaponle: 3:50pm On Sep 04, 2011
Gbawe:

The point is that more money should be going to the States.


Nothing in our constitution promises that. Before we can entrust the state governors with more money they need to account for what they have already gotten. If they cannot do that, they do not deserve any more money. Period.

It does not really matter what the Governors have done or not done with previous allocations because we are in a representative democracy not a dictatorship where the FG can act autocratically towards a State (as OBJ used to do) rather than view States as partners in development.

I am shocked to hear this from a self-labeled progressive a la intellectual from Oxford. In a democracy, accountability is paramount. The whole reason why there is check and balances is just so our representatives would be accountable to us. It matters what they've done with our money. We need to know before we can give them more.
To whom much is given, much they say  should be expected and should be accounted for. It is obvious to us all that our state governors are also our biggest treasury looters; most become richer after their tenure, much more richer beyond what they could account for ( e.g Tinubu, a mere accountant , albeit a fraudulent one c-/u/-m druggie, who is now one of Nigeria's richest men).


You should not be asking the Federal Government to withold State allocation or take on the role of school teacher punishing pupil.

That is exactly the job of the federal government in a democracy. The feds are meant to oversea the states. After all, the buck stops at GEJ's table. When flood ravaged Lagos, who did Fashola run to? The feds. When Bokoharam started terrorizing Jos, the governor ran to the feds. The point is that they have to account for every kobo they get from the federal government. That is just how it is. Even in the US, the feds take on the role of the school teacher punishing the school pupil, at least when it comes to federal money. Federal money is federal money, not state money, and the federal govt decides how it is spent or if it is spent at all. If the state wants to be the masters of their destiny, let them generate more income for themselves and spend it how ever they see fit.



You cannot ask one thief to punish another.

You are right, Fashola, Amosun, Tinubu, and your brother are all thives. Just because you know they are thieves doesnt mean you have the right to call others names. You should know more than that, Mr. I-went-to-Oxford-on-tax-payers-money-gotten-illegally-from-Tinubu


Let the FG, if itself not full of thieve who like things as they are push , as experts have advised, for complete transparency and a greater system of auditory checks and balances to ensure that allocations are judiciously utilised.

I agree with this point. Now you are making use of your Oxford brain, at least for the first time since I started reading your posts

You cannot suggest illegal behaviour as punishment for what you deem wrong.

There is nothing illegal about the directives from the feds to the state governors. The excess crude oil money belongs to the federal government, not to the state governors.

We are back to square one with that thinking. The States should get more money and GEJ, if he is willing and a solutions provider, should put in place measures that can effectively curb and discourage corruption.

The States should account for what they have gotten first, then maybe we can talk about giving them more. As far as I am concerned, the SWF is the best use of our excess crude money. The state of Alska has the highest SWF in the world and it is in care of the US government. We cannot allow such amount of money in the hands of people like Aregbesola, Amosun, Tinubu, Ikuforiji, your brother, Ajimobi et al. There is too much at stake here. Once bitten by drug dealers with  multiple date of births, twice shy. Fool me once by certificate forgers, shame on you; fool me twice by ex-convicts in Asiwaju Criminals of Nigeria, shame on me
Sports / Re: Usain Bolt Disqualified For False Start! by sagaponle: 3:14pm On Sep 04, 2011
Sagamite:

Na Somali.

Cheat how? When hunger dey wire am and im family dey run from war, na Sierra Leone give am food and shelter.

So make we no chop from our goodness?  grin

Which one? Name. What leg im run?

La Sagamite the intellectual God of NL, how far now?

How your side?

How athletic are you?  Can you run like Usain Bolt or you just prefer to cheer him on like a lil puzzy?
Sports / Re: Afcon Qualifier: Madagascar Vs Nigeria (0 - 2) On 4th September 2011 by sagaponle: 3:10pm On Sep 04, 2011
Sagamite:

With which players?

I don dey tell una tey tey say:

- Nigeria is not even one of the top 3 footballing nations in Africa

- There are no more small teams in Africa, even the poorest countries fit play football small

Una dey scream Amodu is useless because he draw with Mozambique like if say na una birth-right to win.


I agree with you. Just an observation: Don't you think it is time you got yourself a job?

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