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Did I hear someone say I should leave Mary alone?

Please sir do well to leave her alone for me

kamura: Pls, lets not be misguided. .

What happened in Luke 1, was the fact that Mary was use as vessel of honor. .

Lets not attached ourselve so much with the birth of Christ.

Christ death, has more significant in our life more than his birth.

The good news, is when he died, the veil of the temple tore from top to bottom. . giving us access to God. .
Mt 27:51, Mrk15:38

Christ left us the helper, our advocate, intercessor. .
Jn 16:7, jn14:16-26

He intercede for us here on earth, and Jesus intercede for us as He is seated by the right hand of God Almighty.

Pls, leave Mary alone.. .

She is not immortal. . a spirit or whatsoever. .

If you make usual available, by living righteouse life, God wld use u, just like He used her. .

Thanks. . i pray that the spirit of knowledge and understanding come upon you all

I agree with you to an extent, his dead has a greater significance than his birth but come to think of it, if Christ was not born, he wouldn't have died, therefore, his birth "possibilized" his death.

Again, God can use each and everyone of us today but not the way he used Mary because Christ will never be born again.

fijiano202: shut up,God didnt tell mary that,mary Sang that,that was a song by Mary

You can keep away the insult and make your point.

If she sang it and so?

All the places where Paul clearly state his teaching is his personal view and not an instruction from God, have you tore them out from your bible? Don't you use them for teaching today?

It's only when it has to do with Mary that you guys begin to be strict with God's actual words right?

All generation will call her blessed and that's exactly what I do.

fijiano202: pls dont mis-quote the bible,even though he said to his diciples that meet ur mother and mother meet ur son,He never said Worship her or Idolize her,almost all church,most old women are always refer to his mother,am sure u have met some women who call u her child

Whatever you take to mean worship or idolizing is total your opinion and understanding and you are free to believe what you want.

All I know is, Jesus said to his apostle who believed in him " behold your mother(Mary)

Rom8V29 made me understand that God forknow me and made me to be conformed to the image of Christ so as to be his brethren.

Since am his brethren, a joint heir with him, His father is my father and his mother is my mother.

fijiano202: Darling an not against ur beliefs in anyway but Mary was only called Blessed before the birth of christ and was never called blessed after the birth of Christ i would like u to poing out any verse that states otherwise and Secondly i dont know whether ur from lagos or East but i understand that in the East if a lady whos pregnant with the kings Son come to ur house,there a certain respect giving to them due to the baby in their womb which is the prince and thats exactly what Elizabeth did,If you can prove me wrong then i may come to ur church for Next sunday service

Luke 1V48 said "all generations will call her blessed"

All generation did not start and end within the nine months span of her pregnancy,

nwajoshua: But dat is a clear injunction or command frm God...Jesus has never given such comand abt his mther and dis can only wk wen they(parents)are still alive. For example many pple went to south Africa to see Nelson Mandela and pay respect to him wen he was alive but now he is dead, anybody dat keeps his pictures in his room honouring him and paying respct to him as regarded to his positive contributions is mad...so iif mary is alive now, we will respect her,honour her,give her gifts and point at her as an example wen teaching d women....God can never share his glory wit anybody even d angels..u gat dat?

Not at all.
Jesus clearly made us understand Mary is our mother when he said to apostle John "behold your mother"

If I honour my mother when she is alive, I see no reason why I should stop that when she dies.

Alive or dead, she remains my mother.

Ruq: I don't get, you asked if we are greater than Angels, I thought God made that clear that we were ?

Oh I thought Heb2V7 said God made us for a while lower than the angels.

Don't be too fast, you are only going to be greater than the angels in the world to come.

For now, they are greater than you.

nwajoshua: Shut d Bleep up,,,you are blunt,blind,decieved,and inflated with false doctrine,,,mary was a vessel used and John said free u recieve and free u shall give...mary recieved d grace free of charge not of any effort of her own, afterall she already had a fiancee Joseph, although not like fiancee of nawadays, and later she got married and had children...if u say No.. wot do married pple do? They tie there hands and look at each other,, we are not made to honour marry instead d Bible said Honour d lord thy God...Mary is an Icon in d Bible but not to be moulded and honour, rember God is a jelous God.. Mary has been used to do a marvelous wk and God shuld be praised not mary,, are u mad ....sory.... pls be guided

I thought the bible also said honour your father and mother,

Pope Francis has just released a new document titled Evangelii Gaudium.

It is his first apostolic exhortation, and it is devoted to the theme of the new evangelization.

Here are 9 things to know and share . . .

 

1) What does “Evangelii Gaudium” mean?

It’s Latin for “The Joy of the Gospel.”

 

2) What is an apostolic exhortation?

It’s a papal document that, as the name suggests, exhorts people to implement a particular aspect of the Church’s life and teaching.

Its purpose is not to teach new doctrine, but to suggest how Church teachings and practices can be profitably applied today.

Some apostolic exhortations are devoted to the pastoral challenges faced in particular parts of the world (Europe, Africa, Asia, the Americas). Others are devoted to particular themes.

Previous apostolic exhortations include:

Paul VI’s Evangelii Nuntiandi (on evangelization today)

John Paul II’s Christifideles Laici (on the role of the laity)

John Paul II’s Redemptoris Custos (on St. Joseph)

Benedict XVI’s Sacramentum Caritatis (on the Eucharist)

Benedict XVI’s Verbum Domini (on the Word of God)

 

3) How much authority does an apostolic exhortation have?

It is one of the more important papal documents—more important, for example, than a Wednesday audience or a homily.

As it is of a pastoral nature rather than a doctrinal or legal nature, though, it is ranked lower than an encyclical or an apostolic constitution.

As with everything official that the pope writes, it is to be taken very seriously.

 

4) What leads a pope to write an apostolic exhortation?

Frequently, apostolic exhortations are written after a meeting of the Synod of Bishops.

The Synod of Bishops is a group that gathers selected bishops from across the world to discuss a particular subject.

At the synod, the bishops write a document making recommendations for the pope. It is then given to him for his reflection, and he may then write an apostolic exhortation based on the bishops’ recommendations.

Exhortations that come about in this way are called “post-synodal” apostolic exhortations because they are written after (“post-”) a meeting of the synod.

There does not have to be such an exhortation. Sometimes they hold a meeting of the synod of bishops, but no apostolic exhortation is released.

Also, not all apostolic exhortations are written after a synod, though. Sometimes the pope may decide to write one on his own, without a synod being held on the subject. This was the case with John Paul II’s Redemptoris Custos.

 

5) Why did Pope Francis write Evangelii Gaudium?

It was written in response to the most recent meeting of the Synod of Bishops, which took place in October, 2012.

It was devoted to the subject of the new evangelization, so that is the subject of Evangelii Gaudium.

This synod took place before Pope Francis was elected in March 2013.

It sometimes happens that a synod is held and the pope who presided over it leaves office before the exhortation is released. His successor may then choose to go forward with the project.

For example, the 2005 synod on the Eucharist was held under John Paul II, but he had passed on before an exhortation was released. Benedict XVI then took the document that the bishops had prepared and had an exhortation written.

(Usually, the pope does not draft the document himself, but it is drafted based on his decisions, and he has final approval over what it says.)

Pope Francis’s decision in this case is similar to his decision to release the encyclical Lumen Fidei, which was primarily drafted by Pope Benedict, but which he completed.

Unlike that case, though, Pope Francis contributed much, much more to this document.

With Lumen Fidei, he did not add very much to what Pope Benedict had written. Evangelii Gaudium, by contrast, is much more a “Francis document.” It regularly emphasizes the distinctive thought and themes of the new pope.

 

6) What is Pope Francis’ main message in Evangelii Gaudium?

As suggested by the name, the principal theme involves the need for a joyful proclamation of the Gospel to the entire world.

Archbishop Rino Fisichella, who presented the document at a Vatican press conference, summarized its main message this way:

If we were to sum up Pope Francis’s Evangelii Gaudium in a few words, we could say that it is an Apostolic Exhortation written around the theme of Christian joy in order that the Church may rediscover the original source of evangelization in the contemporary world.

Pope Francis offers this document to the Church as a map and guide to her pastoral mission in the near future.

It is an invitation to recover a prophetic and positive vision of reality without ignoring the current challenges.

Pope Francis instills courage and urges us to look ahead despite the present crisis, making the cross and the resurrection of Christ once again our “the victory banner” (source).

 

7) What particularly noteworthy things does the pope have to say in the document?

There is a mountain of them.

The document is 51,000 words long, which means that it is the length of a novel and takes at least 5 hours to read.



However, Archbishop Fisichella offers a summary of seven main themes that it covers:

The following seven points, gathered together in the five chapters of the Exhortation, constitute the fundamental pillars of Pope Francis’ vision of the new evangelization:

1.     the reform of the Church in a missionary key,

2.     the temptations of pastoral agents,

3.     the Church understood as the totality of the People of God which evangelizes,

4.     the homily and its preparation,

5.     the social inclusion of the poor,

6.     peace and social dialogue,

7.     and the spiritual motivations for the Church’s missionary action.

The cement which binds these themes together is concentrated in the merciful love of God which goes forth to meet every person in order to manifest the heart of his revelation: The life of every person acquires meaning in the encounter with Jesus Christ and in the joy of sharing this experience of love with others.


 

Can you give a specific example of something notable he says?

Sure. It’s hard to pick just one!

Pro-lifers will be heartened to read what he has to say concerning unborn children and abortion:

213. Among the vulnerable for whom the Church wishes to care with particular love and concern are unborn children, the most defenseless and innocent among us.

Nowadays efforts are made to deny them their human dignity and to do with them whatever one pleases, taking their lives and passing laws preventing anyone from standing in the way of this.

Frequently, as a way of ridiculing the Church’s effort to defend their lives, attempts are made to present her position as ideological, obscurantist and conservative.

Yet this defense of unborn life is closely linked to the defense of each and every other human right.

It involves the conviction that a human being is always sacred and inviolable, in any situation and at every stage of development.

Human beings are ends in themselves and never a means of resolving other problems.

Once this conviction disappears, so do solid and lasting foundations for the defense of human rights, which would always be subject to the passing whims of the powers that be.

Reason alone is sufficient to recognize the inviolable value of each single human life, but if we also look at the issue from the standpoint of faith, “every violation of the personal dignity of the human being cries out in vengeance to God and is an offence against the creator of the individual”.

214. Precisely because this involves the internal consistency of our message about the value of the human person, the Church cannot be expected to change her position on this question.

I want to be completely honest in this regard.

This is not something subject to alleged reforms or “modernizations”.

It is not “progressive” to try to resolve problems by eliminating a human life.

On the other hand, it is also true that we have done little to adequately accompany women in very difficult situations, where abortion appears as a quick solution to their profound anguish, especially when the life developing within them is the result of rape or a situation of extreme poverty.

Who can remain unmoved before such painful situations?

 

9) Is there an extra significance to the document?

It will take time to fully process the significance of the document, but one this is immediately clear: This document is not something that Pope Francis delegated to others and allowed to be written on auto-pilot. It contains far too much of his own thought and themes for that.

This means that Pope Francis was closely involved in the writing of this document, and that shows that he cares—powerfully—about the theme of evangelization.

This demolishes the wrongheaded claims that Pope Francis doesn’t take the task of evangelization seriously.

On the contrary, it’s one of the highest priorities of his pontificat

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POPE II: question: why do Catholic and Christian in general don't give Jesus as name to their children ? except maybe for latino American

It seems we look at it as sacred name reserved for Jesus Christ alone.

But if you name your child Joshua, you've already named him Jesus.

debbie: Sunday 15th December 2013
The Glorious Mysteries
REJOICE IN THE LORD ALWAYS;I SAY,REJOICE.INDEED THE LORD IS NEAR.

First Reading Isaiah 35:1-10
SUMMARY- God himself will come and save you.

RESPONSORIAL PSALM 149

Second Reading James 5:7-10
SUMMARY-Establish your hearts,for the coming of the Lord is at hand.

ALLELUIA,THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS UPON ME;HE HAS SENT ME TO PREACH GOOD NEWS TO THE POOR.ALLELUIA

Gospel Reading Matthew 11:2-11
SUMMARY-Are you he who is to come,or shall we look for another?

MEDITATION OF THE DAY
They will see the glory of the Lord,the splendor of our God Isaiah 35:2
Thinking about the Eucharist always brings certain scriptures passages to mind.Maybe,it's a story about the road to Emmaus (Luke 24:13-35). It's a synopsis of the Mass as it describes the way that Jesus energized two disciples as he explain the Scriptures to them and then how he revealed himself when he blessed and broke bread with them.Or what about the story of the multiplication of the loaves (John 6:1-13)?
It;s such an exciting miracle! Jesus blessed bread,gave it to everyone,and satisfied their hunger both physically and spiritually.And who can forget the way St.Paul described the Mass of the first Christian? "The cup of blessing that we bless,is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread that we break,is it not a participation in the body of Christ?" (1 Corinthians 10:16). In every instance, the people who ate the bread were moved.
Their eyes were opened.They caught a glimpse caused of the GLORY OF THE LORD,the splendor of our GOD" Isaiah 35:2. And that glimpse caused them to rejoice.Today's first reading tells how the Isrealites will rejoice over the salvation God will bring them.It speaks about God opening blind eyes and deaf ears.It speaks about weak hands and knees being made strong.It speaks about people overcoming their fears.It speaks about people blooming like the beautiful flower,all because the glory of God is being revealed to them.

Every time we receive the Eucharist,Jesus reveals himself to us and that is a cause for great rejoicing.At every Mass, he comes to set us free from sin.He comes to open our eyes to his love and his glory.He helps us keep our eyes on the PRIZE so that we will one day enter his Kingdom "singing and crowned with everlasting joy" Isaiah 35:10.

JESUS,I REJOICE IN YOUR PRESENCE.COME AND FILL ME,LORD,WITH THE BREAD OF LIFE......AMEN

Remember-Jesus is the bread of life,anyone who desires him will live,without him we are nothing.
MARANATHA.

Amen Amen.

[quote author=Mr. Aladin]I saw this on facebook i will like to share it among my fellow brethren.




His Majesty Remains Faithful.Our Parish Priest
(Our Lady of Fatimah Catholic Church, Choba
Port harcourt) who was abducted by
unknown gunmen sometime last 2 weeks
Wednesday has returned to us safe and
sound courtesy of the Lord's doing..The
bullet that was shot at him when they
attacked him tore through the roof of his car
but was diverted from hitting him.Join us n
rejoice for the Lord's love for us knows no
bounds


The Lord is Good![/quote]Yeah I read that too.
Thanks be to God.

POPE II:

What

FrancisTony: happy sunday mama. I'm hungry like mofedaku! *crying* food where art thou!

Oh dear, food has been ready for sometime now. Thanks to debbie.

[quote author=Maria-Goretti]Mama, I see ya.
Happy Sunday.

wey sunday rice?[/quote]Happy sunday dear. Debbie provided the food

[quote author=Nso-nso]Peace of the Lord be with you all. Happy Sunday.[/quote]Welcome home dear, more of God's blessings to you.

nora544: So you where 18 years old when you start as pastor, did you go to University to study the bible or did you get it because your father was also a pastor and business should stay in the family, this is only possible in nigeria, you read the bible and than you can becfome a pastor.

Sister you are very observant.

There's nothing wrong with that.

Good morning brethren and happy sunday to you all.

Thank you Lord

Na religion abi na literature section this story suppose dey?

Rich4god: Goodnight everyone... Wishing you a wonderful sleep. Last to commment.

Nay

WELL DAYUUUM
Kama12:10 what a surprise!!

I was with you in 2007 at igwe's palace, you were not even a pastor then.

I still remember the night you said one prayer like that as if you were discussing with someone and Breaker got angry with you
I think Ebuka, Breaker, cindy and co need to hear this.

Can't believe you are already a bishop barely six years later.

One of your quote I find hard to forget
"All of us are spiritually inclined in one way or the other"


Wish you well.

POPE II: Are you guys ignoring my post or what? who wants to become a mod ? Na wa ooo with una , I wanted to open a thread : petitions, a call for a Catholic mod ,but it seems my thread will go unnoticed or will b snubbed by my own brethren wake up na ,bikonu ..Sal c , MG & co

lol

This is the day The Lord has made, let us rejoice and glad in it for the joy of the Lord is our strength.

Good morning dear brethren and do have a joy filled day.

Nahum777: we are brothers in Christ, we are in the same truth, weda from my mouth or Obadiahs it is of God.

Hmmm

damerry: A non catholic who bought the holy rosary and had it blessed wore it on her neck. She was lured into a ritual house under the guise of prayer house. They could not kill her because of the holy rosary she had on her. They even asked her to remove it but she refused. The ritualists locked her up in a room full of disembered bodies but on the 4th day she woke up to find the door opened and felt a force moving her out of the house. When she was on the street she found help and was safe.

This woman gave this testimony today at 3am which marks the end of a 4day catholic charismatic crusade.

Glory to Jesus. Honour to out lady queen of the most holy rosary

They shall know the truth and the truth shall set them free.
Glory to Jesus, Honour to Mary!!!

ATMC: #hollers back. babes to air as in air CO² from behind

Try comedy joor.

Oyinprince: Hmm Sal C, are u sure u've seen people bin 'taught' how to spik in tongues ive not seen dat.Spikin in tongues is not lyk a 'performance' to be rehearsed. The gift may be impacted tru teachers but its d holyghost dat gives utterance.

My post was clear enough. I never said I saw them being taught; but when I saw almost everyone started speaking at the command of the pastor, I was curious, not just me but also few of my friend who also attended the burial, we later approach some members of the church ( two ladies) and ask them. The reply they gave us was that at a certain level in their church, you are meant to attend classes where they teach you how to speak in tongues.

ATMC: hello Sally...less than two weeks to go counting the days already #cant wait

Lol that's thoughtful of you.

Counting too