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Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 5:32pm On Nov 28, 2013
[quote author=Maria-Goretti]My nwannemus, how una dey?

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Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC: 5:26pm On Nov 28, 2013
Ukuts gp: now was any demon also cast out by the prophets of God using that method in that evil book u added to the bible?
God chooses any mean he deem fit when performing miracle and therefore he is not confined to a particular method.

When he wanted to part the red sea, he used moses staff.
When he wanted to cure Namman of leprosy, he made him wash in river jordan.
When he wanted to deliver the israelites, he hardened pharoah's heart and used moses. Etc etc
so in all, God uses any method he so desire.
Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC: 5:11pm On Nov 28, 2013
Ukuts gp: now was any demon also cast out by the prophets of God using that method in that evil book u added to the bible?
You are good at demonizing anything you don't agree with, yet you have not told us anything about 1kings since it recorded that God made the prophets lie. Or could that be because your bible has 1kings? Are you not being partial?
Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC: 5:03pm On Nov 28, 2013
Ukuts gp: miracles thrive within the perimeter of faith. That was why jesus always say 'ur faith has made thee whole' unlike magic that only depends on the use of concotion and magical objects.

Simple prayer in the name of Jesus is all we need.
Why can't we apply this also to the case by saying it was tobias' faith and obedience that led him to catch the fish and burn it when required.

Did you not read that he prayed first?
Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC:
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Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC: 4:51pm On Nov 28, 2013
Ukuts gp: u will as well say that witch doctors that uses different materials to prepare evil spell is nt bad.

Look, for Jesus to test that man's faith was the reason he does that.

Now tell me, how can a smoke from a fish heart drive away evil spirits? Is this biblical? When the bible says we can cast out devils with the name of jesus?
Are they supposed to use the name of Jesus in casting out the demon even when Jesus Christ is yet to be born? Or don't you know that the event in question took place before his earthly existence?
Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC: 4:32pm On Nov 28, 2013
Ukuts gp: he just anoint the man's eyes with it and ask him to go and wash it off. That's all. If it was some faithless people they would have doubted. So the man excersise his faith by doing that.
Are you now saying it wasn't accually the concotion made by Jesus that cured him but his faith?
Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC: 4:23pm On Nov 28, 2013
Ukuts gp: jesus can heal that man by simply praying for that man or laying hands on him. But he just want that man to demonstrate his faith.
Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC: 4:23pm On Nov 28, 2013
Ukuts gp: jesus can heal that man by simply praying for that man or laying hands on him. But he just want that man to demonstrate his faith.
The fact that, Jesus can heal the man without using concotion, yet he went forward to make and use it is a pointer to the fact that he is not against such.
We can also apply same logic to the incidence you are refering to.

Again how did Jesus preparing the concotion come to mean the blind man demonstrating his faith? Please clarify.
Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC: 4:09pm On Nov 28, 2013
Ukuts gp: the link up there answers that question
Take it easy, we will soon deal with the links provided.
Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC: 4:04pm On Nov 28, 2013
Ukuts gp: The apocrypha also teaches that giving of arms can purge one from sin and make one to earn everlasting life. Tobit 12:9 and Tobit 4:11. It means u can buy ur way into heaven. But this is contrary to the apostle's teachings. And it is false.
We are yet to clarify the points raised previously and you are jumping into further issues.
Is that how you want to end the thread?
Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC: 3:58pm On Nov 28, 2013
Ukuts gp: hw can a smoke from the heart of fish on a fire drive away demon? Is it nt occultic? Tobit 6:5-7.
How can someone's saliva and mud cure the blind. Is that occultic too?
Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC: 3:55pm On Nov 28, 2013
Ukuts gp: so u cant see the making of evil concotion there abi. Can demon be cast out with evil concotion. Hv u seen such in the bible. What are they doing with human liver and gull and those rubbish there.why dont u post that verse let me clarify it for u. That is nt of God. That books is an occultic books and it is devilish.
You started by giving the quotation and now you want me to post it?

And a little correction please, it wasn't human liver and gall, it was that of a fish.
Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC: 3:33pm On Nov 28, 2013
Ukuts gp: did u also ask why God gave the permission?
In other words you agree that God permitted it.

Let me state here that whatever God does has a reason.

To answer you, God permitted it for whatever reason. But our concern here is, at some points, and for some reason, God caused his people to lie. NO?

So according to you, that book is devilish and heretic, No?
Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC: 3:22pm On Nov 28, 2013
Ukuts gp: so u cant see the making of evil concotion there abi. Can demon be cast out with evil concotion. Hv u seen such in the bible. What are they doing with human liver and gull and those rubbish there.why dont u post that verse let me clarify it for u. That is nt of God. That books is an occultic books and it is devilish.
And Jesus spat on the ground mixing his saliva with mud (making of concotion).
So what's the difference? Why is one devilish and the other angellic?
Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 3:14pm On Nov 28, 2013
Rich4god: I no understand again. How we take relate to the extent say I be your grand son.
Don't mind Woky.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 3:13pm On Nov 28, 2013
Rich4god: Shebi una don start again... Bg na night vigil, now na to speak another language.
Nay son. Ndo
Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 3:11pm On Nov 28, 2013
POPE II: SAL C you are Hausa?
I be quater castgrin
Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC: 3:04pm On Nov 28, 2013
Sal C: Let me start from the title of this thread and that of the link you provided,
the other thread said" the catholic church did not give us the bible" while your thread read thus " the false and heretic apocryphal books added by the roman catholic church"

Can you tell me how and when the catholic church added the apocrypha to the bible?
Give an instance of any bible that pre-dated the catholic bible without the apocrypha.
This post is yet to be attended to.
Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC: 2:59pm On Nov 28, 2013
Ukuts gp: i now know dat lack of understanding is ur problem. Did u at all read the full account of that story?
I have no such problem. When one of the spirits came to sought God permission to put lies in the mouth of the prophets, what was God's reply?
Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC: 2:55pm On Nov 28, 2013
Ukuts gp: open ur eyes and read it very well
What else do you want me to see? I gave you an instance where Jesus Christ himself used an object to cure the bible and this is all you can say?
Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC: 2:49pm On Nov 28, 2013
Ukuts gp: are u telling me now that God support lying
Are you asking me? The answer is in the passage i gave to you.
Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC: 2:45pm On Nov 28, 2013
Ukuts gp: my king jame have none of this books. No king james have those books. ur statement is false
Make research and verify if the first translation of kjv has apocrypha and why.
Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC: 2:40pm On Nov 28, 2013
Ukuts gp: None of the apocryphal writers laid claim to inspiration. Most of them confessed non-inspiration.

In the prologue of Ecclesiasticus, the writer states: '' you are intreated therefore to read with favour and attention and to pardon us if in any parts of what we have laboured to interprete, we may seem to fail in some of the phrases''
this above quote goes to show that the writer were nt inspired.
Now the prologue was not written by the writer but the translators likewise any other book of the bible. The use of "pardon us" in the prologue show that the translation was not done by one person. The word 'interprete' shows the prologue was written by the translator/ interpreters.
Or is it possible to interprete what does not exist?
Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC: 2:10pm On Nov 28, 2013
Ukuts gp: Some of the teachings in those books are immoral. In Judith 9:10, 13, it says God assisted judith in the telling of lies. The apocrypha books of Ecclesiasticus and wisdom of solomon teaches that morality is based on expedience. In otherwords, according to these books it is right to sin in some situations.
Study 1kings 22 concentrate on verse 22 and see how God helped 400 of his prophets tell lies.
According to you that book is false and heretic right?
Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 1:52pm On Nov 28, 2013
woky: I jst gentle


ki tashi lafia??
Godiya mu ke.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 1:51pm On Nov 28, 2013
Rich4god: Ye... Am still trying to get the correct info of the place I want to call you about. When am done I will let you. As for Aladin, I dont have his contact, though I PM(ed) him but no reply yet. We pray that all is well with him.
OK it's well.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 1:46pm On Nov 28, 2013
POPE II: When I heard the savior call my name
I was sinking deep
In sin and shame
Now my life will never be the same
Since I heard the savior call my name.

Proudly Catholic
Glory to Jesus, honour to Mary.

Please keep praying for Aladdin.
MAY GOD NEVER FORSAKE US IN OUR WEAK MOMENTS.
Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC: 1:40pm On Nov 28, 2013
My questions are still unanswered.
Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC: 1:36pm On Nov 28, 2013
Ukuts gp: the apocrypha describes magical portions which are alleged to drive away demons.
Tobit 6:1-17. This support occultic practices contrary to God's standard
I suppose you are talking about the liver and gall bladder of fish and i don't see anything magical about it, except you want us to believe that Jesus Christ using mud to cure the blind was also a form of magic.
Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC: 1:24pm On Nov 28, 2013
Ukuts gp: the catholic cant claim they wrote the bible. None of the writer of the bible came from rome. Roman catholic have nothing to do with the bible. The jew where the ones who canonise the old testament scripture. ever before the roman catholic was born the scripture have been in use by jew in their synagogue. Even jesus read the scripture in the synagogue
And the new testament?
Christianity Etc › Re: The False And Heretic Apocraphal Books Added To The Bible By Catholic Church. by SalC: 1:21pm On Nov 28, 2013
Double post grin

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