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DeathStroke007:
lol... chai.. so you know Paul na barnabas apprentice before.. and you dey lie

Apprentice ke? All along I've used the word companion for them and not apprentice. Non of them is a disciple to the other. They are co-preachers.

So far you've seen you started a topic you don't know jack about.

Next time study well before posting.

DeathStroke007:
so, na apostle Jesus have no be disciples abi....



and Paul wasn't among the apostle right

Smh see kweshion chai.

Jesus had 12 apostles and many disciples.
Neither Paul nor Barnabas was among these 12 apostles.

Paul was the one who later referred to himself as an apostle and that doesn't mean he is among the twelve.

Neither the Bible nor paul nor Barnabas himself ever referred to himself as an apostle.

So saying Barnabas was an apostle and Jesus instructed him to write his gospel sounds crazy.

If there are people who were with Jesus all along and so write about him first hand, it should be those among the 12.

If you noticed, Paul himself never wrote first hand account of Jesus' life but more of visionary accounts or the ones he read.

DeathStroke007:
if you know everything about Paul, you would know Barnabas... that's your flaw

Guy shift joor. Your lines are becoming too lame

If you know everything about paul or even your Barnabas why not post it here.

I do hope it won't be that ridiculous muslim mantra of Paul and Barnabas being enemies simply because the Bible said they disagreed on who to take along in their journey.

DeathStroke007:
disciples not apostles

Stop clutching on straws there is nothing like 12 disciples. And your Barnabas in that his gospel claimed to be an Apostle whereas there are 12 apostles and no Barnabas among them.

DeathStroke007:
laughing... mention the 12 disciples with source of your claim

Lol I know am teaching you but no wahala... Am having a good laugh here

Here are the 12 apostles
Peter, James and John (sons of Zebedee), Andrew, Philip, Bartholomew, Mathew, Thomas, James (son of Alpheus), Theddaeus, Simon, and Judas.

And try to learn the difference between the apostles and disciples.

DeathStroke007:
go read his entire gospel...
Then do research on the relationship between Barnabas and Paul

I have read it, my post doesn't in anyway sound like that of a complete novice and your one liners aren't enough to take me back to re-reading it.

As for the research, do it yourself and bring your findings here. Am waiting.

Richirich713:
I'm pretty sure he's unaware that it contradicts the Quran, that why I asked him if it's corrupted.

Since he said it's not corrupted I would like to see how he will explain these contradictions.

I really hope he's not going with "if it agrees with Quran it's not corrupted but if it doesn't agree, it's corrupted"

He already made the blanket statement "it's not corrupted" he can no longer cherrypick what to believe therefore if there is any contradiction between the two, the Quran must be the one in error, since according to them, the gospel of Barnabas was written before the Quran and this further cast doubts on the authenticity of Mohammed and his Quran.

Tkester2:
Bros, you have a big point. But some truths were not told about the UK and US involvement in the war. I think Ojukwu made a big mistake in that war. He fought a war without first realizing that he needed international partnership and coalition. Had he made some connection and give-in into certain compromises that was asked then, we would have been victorious in that war.

Seeing the way IPOB carries itself, I think they are trying to avoid the same pit-trap Ojukwu fell into. What IPOB is trying to do (if I understanding clearly) is to rally enough international support to its cause, which will help them in whatever strategy they might want to deploy. I believe taking Buhari to ICC is the right step.

Though it is unlikely that ICC will determine the case and give a ruling in 2, 3 or even 5 years from now, because cases in ICC tend to linger on forever, sometimes it may last up to 10 years, but on the average cases take more than three years to conclude, its even doubly unlikely that Buhari as the sitting president of a country will be summoned by ICC, that I think cannot happen.

However, I think that if the prosecution will find Prof Goilter's evidence as enough to commence criminal prosecution of the defendant (buhari) then that will be a embarrassment to Buahri and even to Nigeria, and this will boost the morale of Biafrans to increase the agitation for their freedom. In which case, the US, EU and UK have no other alternative than to support the emergence of Biafra.

I believe IPOB's strategy is working. Do you know that one of the evidences used against Buhari is the shooting of unarmed protesters? Now tell me, had Buhari not been particular about Nnamdi Kanu will this evidence surface? You now see why some of us were of the opinion that Buhari should thread with caution. Hmm the days ahead will be interesting...

I may be wrong though but didn't the Kenyan president had to hand over to his vice sometime ago to answer his case with the ICC?

Richirich713:
Google tells me it's a medieval forgery.

If it's not corrupted why does it say Jesus is not the Messiah? Doesn't the Quran say Jesus is the Messiah.

Chai you beat me to this. I wanted to let him come out fully first and prove he believed the gospel of Barnabas before I start showing him where it contradicts his koran, then he will be made to choose between gospel of Barnabas and his koran.

malvisguy212:
Weldon my brother, God bless you.

God bless you too dear. I am a sister though

DeathStroke007:
now am sure you know nothing about Barnabas

Lol really?
Teach me oh thou learned one, the knowledge of the real Barnabas to learn for I hunger and thirst for this knowledge.

I am but a handmaid of the Lord

DeathStroke007:
seems you blind.. you no see gospel of Barnabas abi.

gospel of Barnabas is my source




Barnabas spent time with Jesus, he's an apostle of Jesus. Jesus appointed him to write his gospel..



of course you don't know... you have been fed Pauline lies since you were borne

DeathStroke007:
story... did he knew Jesus?

DeathStroke007:
google is your friend... it's not corrupted.. he writes based on what he saw and heard

I never really wanted to go this far but it seems you didn't even know the real Barnabas wasn't among the 12 apostles of Jesus.

Referring to him is just like referring to Paul as an apostle. They weren't with Jesus like the 12 apostles. I really don't know where you are getting your informations from.

Like seriously he was with Jesus and Jesus asked him to write what? Smh una no go kill person

And oh you need a proof the so called Bible was written 1500 years ago?

Well let me make it clear that I was even trying to go soft on the muslims and massage their ego with that otherwise I don't believe it was written 1500 years ago.

I rather believe it was a medieval forgery of the 14th century through the 16th century AD probably 1500AD you get?

Why because the author clearly used the popular errornous believe that only took place in the 14th century before it was corrected.

Consider the quote from chapter 82 of your bible below

Insomuch that the year of Jubilee which now comes every 100 years, shall by the Messiah be reduced to every year in every place

Consider the "now" in the above quote showing as at the time of the above writing the Jubilee was celebrated every hundred years which may likely not be so from the onset.

Now you and I know the jubilee year is celebrated every 50 years and not 100.

For the sake of clarity I will post where God gave that instruction in the Bible.

Consecrate every Fiftieth year and proclaim liberty throughout the land to all the inhabitants, it shall be a Jubilee year for you. Lev 25:10

Now let me tell you a story

In the year 1300 AD, Pope Boniface VIII proclaimed that jubilee year should henceforth be celebrated every 100 years contrary to the 50 years it was sanctioned to be celebrated by God, but the next Pope being Pope Clement VI changed it back to every 50 years and so it was celebrated in the year 1350, now there was only a span of 50 years in history when people believed the Jubilee year comes every 100 years and it is between 1300 and 1350 AD.

It is only then that any body would have written "the jubilee year which now comes every 100 years.

So the writer of your gospel of Barnabas much have written within these fifty years of erroneous belief.

This is just one of the reasons I believe it couldn't have been written by the real Barnabas who lived and died within the first century AD.

DeathStroke007:
your proof Barnabas didn't speak Spanish
.. your proof that the Bible was written 1500years ago and your claims with the crucifixion

Now I am wondering if you even took time to read up on the life of the real Barnabas.

The real Barnabas is a Hebrew who lived his later life and died in the Island of Cyprus. Cyprus has always a Greek speaking land. Even his relic were later discovered under a cherry tree in Cyprus. There is no record of him going to Spain or knowing the spanish language. If there is a language he should know, it should be greek and not spanish.

On the other hand your gospel of Barnabas was found to be written in Spanish and italian not in Hebrew or Greek that the real Barnabas would have written it if he were to be the author.

Except maybe you are going to show me any proof he knew Spanish in his lifetime.

DeathStroke007:
am listening to your proof of Herod Pilate and Judea.... an eye witness is stating account of happenings and you saying another thing.. prove him wrong.. am all hears









and you saying A Barnabas.... simply means you know nothing about Barnabas

Like seriously is this even worth debating on?


Herod ruled Judea from 37BC to 4BC while Pilate's reign was from 26AD to 36AD there is a clear 30 years difference between their regimes.

Herod ruled while Jesus was born while Pilate ruled during the period of his death. Both never ruled during his birth like your gospel of barnabas errornously want us to believe. So for someone who claimed to be an eye witness to commit such historic blunder casts a serious doubt on his claims.

Yes I refer to him as "A Barnabas" because this so called Barnabas can't be same as. Paul's companion.

All these people insulting and cursing yourselves both Catholics and non-catholics, is this the best way of defending your churches? Smh all of you need Jesus ASAP

analice107:
According to reliable sources, the decision to remove Mbaka is aimed at checkmating his activities which is generating unpleasant wave within the body of Christ and the nation at large. The church decision to transfer all the priests in Enugu Diocese was to dilute any suspicion that such move was aimed at checkmating Fr. Mbaka

Catholic Church is not the body of Christ. It's Catholicism. A religion. Get it correctly.

Which reliable sources and how is this transfer supposed to checkmate him. Since he is still allowed to preach, celebrate mass, conduct his adoration programme. His priestly faculty is intact.
Pray tell me how he is being checkmated here.

Have you seen a priest that is being checkmated by the church and how it is done?

DeathStroke007:
then your Christians scholars are from Mars

https://www.nairaland.com/1823912/picture-original-manuscript-injeel-bible#24879356

So people still believe this crap? 1500 years old bible hehehe written 500 years after Jesus' crucifixion allegedly by one of his disciples who must have died some 400 years before? Having the name bible which was first used for the scriptures at about 300AD? written in spanish which Barnabas himself didn't speak?

Mtcheew next story please!

This is a post I made in another thread about this.

A Barnabas who claimed to be the Apostle of Jesus yet didn't know Herod and pilate didn't rule judea thesame time. And pilate wasn't even on seat when Jesus was born.

Go read the blunder in chapter 3 of your revered gospel.

I don't even wanna start,

DeathStroke007:
laughing... who is the teacher of Paul? who was Paul following before he start writing about Jesus?


you guys know absolutely nothing about your man made religion..


you know Paul and you don't know Barnabas.. when na only 2go una go dey use phone do.. I don't think you do read Bible xef

I refrained from meaningless arguments like this already.

If you believe the writer of that book was same as Barnabas Paul's companion, then you must have descended from Mars.

DeathStroke007:
seems you blind.. you no see gospel of Barnabas abi.

gospel of Barnabas is my source




Barnabas spent time with Jesus, he's an apostle of Jesus. Jesus appointed him to write his gospel..



of course you don't know... you have been fed Pauline lies since you were borne

And you want us to rather accept the lies of your so called gospel of Barnabas.


Barnabas an apostle of Jesus indeed!!! Smh

Aizenosa:
Na the rope thing ooo it got me laughing

Ok laugh well, it's allowed.

OZAOEKPE:
I AM BACK

Welcome dear, wetin you chop remain from the Christmas meat?

Rich4god:
Am listening....

Listen wella

Rich4god:
Flesh and fat... any different.

Yeah

Aizenosa:
Lol. Pax Vobiscum

Et cum spiritum tuo. Why are you loling?

Rich4god:
Come and leave with us so that your DIL will feed you wella to fatten you up... You knw, ballon things...

I don't wanna get fat o, I no need am, just a little flesh is ok.

Rich4god:
You wan add... Wen some people dey try to drop...

Drop ke? You wan make I turn to rope?

Larryfly:
Nope, you still dont get it. You think God will judge us just based on what we do to and for our brothers.. Where is faith? Without faith it is impossible to please God. Even if you feed and clothe the whole human race. Do you practice your faith? And faith comes from hearing the Word . So you are saying God wont be concerned abt how much of His Word I know, How then do I get faith if I dont study His word. Holy communion and confession are just rituals. No amount of Holy communion or confession or good deeds would build me up if I dont study the Word. The practice in catholic today is that we go for confession on saturday, receive communion on sunday and back to our lives on monday. That aint right. Christianity is a lifestyle bro, its principles are contained solely in the bible.

The bold is not and has never been the practice or teaching of the Catholic church but your personal life style which you alone chose to live (assuming that's what you do though). Please don't generalise or impose it on the Catholic church.

All my life as a Catholic, I have never seen heard or read where it is said that a Catholic should live this way.
If therefore this is how you live, it is your mindset that needs a change because no church will force you to change if you don't want to.

Pick up your bible and read, no one is stopping you. Infact you are encouraged to do so, don't wait for a church that will spoon-feed you, cultivate the habit of praying often for God's grace and divine direction.

Don't go to confession if you are not truly repentant and willing to change while asking for God's grace. You'd be wasting your time.
The church is there to guide you and not to force you.

I do pray you build a better relationship with God while listening to the church's guidance and making effort to get closer to him by the day, His grace is sufficient for you.

PACEM.

babestell:
8

Lol...am not sure you need it, your writing sounds very healthy and fit

I won't say am not healthy or fit, I just need to add some weight, I've been weighing 58kg for the past 3 years, no addition no subtraction

You seem to have a lot of issues ranging from whites' seeming supremacy over blacks to seeming relegation of women to the background to seeming injustice to women owing to them not being allowed into priesthood.

That's quite liberal of you, and you are entitled to your opinion which no one has the right to throw away or look down on.

But then...

Personally I feel otherwise, white feel superior over blacks so to say because most blacks view themselves as inferior to the white.

Maybe you are judging from where you reside, but where I am and from those I've interacted with, I came to the conclusion that it is we blacks who need to stop degrading ourselves. We have so much of this slave mentality and also wanna look up to the whites as our saviour.

If we don't emancipate ourselves from mental slavery which we otherwise imposed on ourselves, we will keep crying foul with no help in sight.

It might sound harsh here, but I don't really believe in racism. A white man can't come to my house and form racist for me.


On female priests, female bishops, female pope. Do you ever imagine that as you so much wish to see or be one. There are others who are constantly wishing and praying such never happen atleast in their lifetime?
It's repulsive to some people as much as it entices you. Now to whose will will God be bent?

You mustn't be a priest or a pope to serve God. Don't you think men should also be angry as why they can't be mother superiors and Abbess?

There are fields where we all can fit in. These fight for female priesthood, bishopric and popery is still beyond me.

Could it be mere earnest desire to feel like we can be all things or a ploy of the devil to bring disarray into the church.

Whichever it might be, I do pray God see us through while promising myself that me as a woman won't attend a mass presided over by a woman.

DeathStroke007:
most of you knows absolutely nothing about Islam. Prophet Muhammad receives word of Allah through revelation.. he recites it.. his followers crams it.. later it was documented

Did he receive it directly from God or the angel grabbed his neck and forced him to READ?

babestell:
Hi me. ...what new thing is happening in your life. Me I lost 3 kg, ...am so happy am gonna buy ice cream to celebrate

And you didn't give me the 3kg? I've been looking for it