Austin, jiln5 I want yalm to.post pics of joburg, Capetown, Durban, Pretoria..I think we need to settle this nonsense once and for all..we've been hearing nairobi will surpass joburg soon enough..we want to see for our eyes following the pictures test index ... enough of all the talking...talk is cheap.. Don't worry I will supply nairobi unedited images(real Nairobi) for this..we need to follow the trend and see if this is true
mtisTheQubit: man i see jealousy there... look man ,if we photoshopped Nairobi the tourists will not come back..an they always come back trust me..an some stay permanently
I feel like I need to copy my reply to rvp on this and paste it for you..you both sound thesame... Stat tuned I will prove what I am saying which you already know but chose to retain this dumb online persona....you know I talk and prove
rvp20182: I am not sure whether to cry or laugh. You cannot believe kenya is that good? It has to be edited. First you claimed it was built by Indians? Then Whites? Now it's the photographer's blame
The sing we get as feedback whenever your fradulent editing practice is exposed ..those this make you feel good in the end?...just saying
rvp20182: There has to be a problem with whoever did Kenya basket of goods and services. But the USD never lies.
No there is no problem there the only problem is that your cooked economy can't keep up with Kenyatta blatant lies....the reason I laugh when Kenya is said to be anywhere close to $80bn.... whoever says that needs to be shut in the ass and hanged by the balls
mtisTheQubit: dude oil price was dipping even before the virus..look at the grand scheme of things,oil is kaput.. if your entire economy is based on oil export then ya doomed..if not now , very soon...look at Sudan if you wann learn something
In this case high oil price is relative...oil price was pretty stable this year and sold above $50 per barrel..heck we even saw it rise above $70 per barrel ... dipping started with the Saudi -russia price war which by the way has been settled..heck the price war is even connected to the glut the covid19 caused..
rvp20182: Why would they do that? It's not gov propaganda. It's just random people shooting random pictures. You can find pictures of Kibera as you find of Westlands.
Keep shut every tom,dick and Harry here knows 90% of nairobi pics posted here are super edited..heck even SA knows...see dude we are not kids...go tell that to those unexposed dwellers in Pokot or kwangware...
rvp20182: It's now outdated because the rand is taking water and sinking.
You see nominal GDP only make sense for North Korea kind of hermitic countries that are not connected internationally. But South Africa at it's level of development and global economy inter-connection - the nominal gdp and ppp - will trail each other. What is going to happen is inflation - will even things - and your GDP PPP will drop similarly.
The problem with GDP PPP - is not the defacto standards or even acceptable- so those PPPs are calculated like once every 15yrs - by some professors - because it's still a concept at infancy - so it lacks the dynamics needed to be taken seriously.
THE USD Is like the health barometer of the global economy. It picks signals faster than Rand or you can cook an excuse - which is why it's trusted.
Lol instead of yapping about gr8 Kenya is which by the way is non existent and only exist in the figment of your imagination,Tell us why your PPP trails behind Ghana a country of 28m... honestly talk is very cheap..very,veryyyy cheap
rvp20182: You think the videos are made for Nairaland
No they are not..your photographers are just so duplicitous and wants to sell the theme *beautiful Kenya*, "magical Kenya" when infact it is very ugly..the go about editing this images or at best showing aerial views covered with rainforest to distract you from what is on ground whilst selling that theme...a simple driving video across Nairobi and you will receive the biggest shock of your life...I consider you guys a joke whenever you choose to fool yourselves..
mtisTheQubit: When the masses rise there is nothing to stop them..people are saying no to fossils an change is being felt world wide..i dont think oil price will go back to where it was before..I watched a documentary about china an EVs an was suprised..they are planning for electric future..look atAmerica, guys booking to buy Tesla even though deliver comes after years..i think the era of oil is coming to an end..
It is becos you are dumb..you do the need to think, it is basic logic....very low demand for oil cause by almost zero activities globally leads to fall in price as there is a glut in the market...As economies opens up further demand increases and price surges up...
rvp20182: Of course - so much - they snatched the poverty capital title from India. A stable currency is key. Pray for rand.
And here he goes...dissing out advice and telling you what to do...lol SA can continue tolerating this shiit from you but deep down you know it to your soul that Kenya is one big magnified shiithole..no need to magnify Kenya's importance cos it is non existent..
rvp20182: Sorry, but Obaboon kind of rhyme with a Zoogerian- and is very catchy. Obadeeremi sounds like wild vegetables in Kenya. You start insulting people calling them liars - when you cannot hold your ground.
I prefer clean conversation - so lets go with Oba.
Now Oba - Yes Dangote refinery is big news. That will save you at least 10-18B dollars of forex. Lets hope Dangote doesn't play his games - where he takes the market - and jack up the prize. There is no doubt Dangote's wealth will grow - if he can manage to pay up the debts. I think he is now leveraged to the gills. One engineering mistake from the Indians and Chinese - could bring him down.
Now when it comes to Tea & Economy - there is something in economics they call it MULTIPLIER. The manufacturing company has multiplier of 10. Oil industry like Nigeria maybe multiplier of 1 or zero. You don't need that many staff to ship out 100B dollars worth of oil.
Now our tea - provide income to 500,000 small scale tea holders - that is supported by about 100 tea factories - with so many trucks to get them to Mombasa - where is world biggest tea auction - and then they are exported (20% of all exports). We are still doing bulk sales - so hopefully we can move to higher-value chains...and really start selling branded tea all over the world.
What you need are such industries...that is why Indonesia and Malaysia are making more money from Palm Oil than your OIL.
Nigeria is backwater because you've allowed the economy to collapse save for Oil. Oil bring dollars but has very little multiplier...that explain why 140M Nigerians are very poor.
@ ist bolded it is $28bn actually.
@2nd bolded you are just being pessimistic and overly jealous as usual...2021 is not far..one could easily just say it is tomorrow...
obaaderemi: Still I refuse to go down to your frustrated level of name calling. It shows how much you have been frustrated here.
Now, let's talk oil and gas, because I have some investment in those.
Last year we exported about $40 bn worth of oil and gas. Right now we are about to finish the world's biggest refinery in Lagos. We just completed the world's biggest fertilizer plant. We are currently losing some money in oil and gas but prices are rising again. That's to show you Nigeria is not a backwater country like Kenya dependent on tea and coffee which fetched you less than $1bn last year and surely will fetch you less this year. I hope you are not jealous.
rvp20182: This new one - from Samrobo. The pictures and the videos are edited
There is nothing new...I have proven my claim...your unedited images is synonymous to what you get on YouTube..but the edited ones has features than never exist anywhere on earth...
rvp20182: Gauteng (literally GOLD) - account for roughly 100B (about 35%) of your economy - and has Joburg, Pretoria. Meanwhile I have seen estimate that Nairobi accounts for as high as 50% of Kenya GDP - roughly 30% in my view. That is roughly 30-45B. So the gap btw Nairobi and Joburg is small.Joburg accounts for 1/3 of Gauteng GDP - or 15% of you national GDP (now 270B) - so we can assume as of today Nairobi has overtaken Joburg GDP wise...again on a nominal basis (so you don't start long argument about GDP ppp)-- because 15% of 270=45B.
All these are increasingly evident if you look at the pictures of Nairobi and Joburg...the GAP IS NARROWING VERY FAST.
This guy you live in an alternate universe.....in that universe nairoslum has overtaken joburg..
Problemkid1: If you watch most of the pictures the kenyans have posted. Most of them are aerial view. They don't like showing us the down just the way we're showing ours.
Their ground pics is very ugly hence why they stick to posting edited aerial.shots to.mask all this ....a simple YouTube video and you will receive the shock of your life...
Lol Naija is really preparing for post covid19 with full force....last week Ebonyi state(the poorest state in eastern Nigeria) decided to go green..we started hearing talks last year but we thought it was the similar carrot talk Kenyans usually get from their govt concerning the LIGHT RAIL...Last week Ebonyi launched the use of electric Tricycles as means of transportation through the state... Already a factory is been set up to construct this tricycles from trashy metal .he calls it "waste to wealth".......installation of charging station is what is following through...
Talk is cheap....Westland just as crappy as upperhill with the faded mud stained road and of course the zero existence of pedestrian lane in a CBD...what of the primitive presence of overhead cable, filths on both side of the road..infact Westland lack anything remotely close to modernity.the best you can do is edit ...you continue like this and you will have Sierra Leone surpass nairoslum.Already nairobi is stagnant...
Shma: I never said so, we were actually talking about you and your dumbness. Now f*ck off
Lol I am just getting started...don't run now.... This is your opportunity to troll me atleast once in your pathetic life..if you don't troll me and troll me properly you will forever regret it
As for .my own trolling you know you can't escape it except you never show up on this thread again ;Dike ever again..
gallivant: You see, your fear of Kenyan luxury or jealousy is already showing.
You need to refresh you brain an read that again.... nothing in what I said suggest any of the drivel you are insinuating..Read Chennai,read
It is built for whites is different from it is built by whites....whites get to enjoy those bland mess you call you luxurious..I think Nigerians in Karen and langata needs to demand a refund of their money..what they got there is uninspiring.
rvp20182: You really admire our thug Sonko - What was the name of Lagos governor you were in his payroll .
As of today - Sonko - has been forced to hand over to national gov many functions - the national gov has seconded military general to try straighten Nairobi.
Here is Sonko working from home. I see you like his fake lifestyle - going by the pictures of victorian houses you're posting today
rvp20182: Honestly, Nairobi is starting to challenge Joburg. What we jus tneed is modern railway system - trams, electric rail for passengers - otherwise the roads will come round with 700M dollars Mombasa road.
Frauds..
Westland Nairobi without oil or gold:::: lol as it's should be
Shma: I can't read all these bullshit mofo. The reason I crossed it.
I knew you and problem kid are like one and two,, but at least problem kid knows his lane, he can't engage with intellects on intellectual staffs This is now the real you. leave intellectual debate to the intellects, your forth is here.
Have a blessed night, and next time grab even a magazine so you don't end up embarrassing your-own-self .
Hohohoho old don't let me laugh..who are the people of excellence...surely you are not one of them, cos I have to cancel out your dumb-ness for each post you make on a salient convo....so tell me how has this drivel you been writing become anything close to intellectual....I am giving the opportunity to troll me and yet again you disappoint me...I say you suck at everything..troll me now for I won't be merciful when I commence mine....
Lol I said ikoyi is on fire and one idiot nearly ran mad What is even more funny is that nothing serious is going on in Nairobi as we speak..I know every project there like the back of my palm ...maybe it's envy