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jl115:
I ain't angry bru I was joking when I said I got a generator, I don't get loadshedding in my area

Yeah was expecting to hear that,but facts on ground don’t agree with your imaginations.

jl115:
jezeez Sammy...could you not just post the link without quoting the entire article?

Also I got myself a generator just like you my bru it's just that mine doesn't have to run 24/7...only when there is loadshedding

Yeah we are the same, on extreme bad days I get 10 hours off otherwise it’s usually 5-7hrs. I turn on my gen to compliment the power I get and so do you.


And yes I posted everything so you can feel the raw heat and be angry, also what happened to your sudden change of tone, o thought you said it was just 2.5hrs.

NaMe4:
You further strengthened his point.

How would they survive in the typical Nigerian environment with lack of basic infrastructure to start with?

They will survive. Nothing special about that country. Stop making it look like they are america all of a sunset. We may not have power but overall general infrastructure here is still way.way better than their. You are use to their constant hyping whilst they die in silence. Unlike them we speak up over the flimsiest thing.

jl115:
OK Twitter is now South African since its owned by a South African..... I like your logic sammyboy

I don't have to look at a video to tell you there as never ever been 10 hours of loadshedding in one go.....

Stuf you can’t invalidate that video and the guys experience my mere words. Your zoo is on fire and I have my receipt. Just shut up and read up.
Your power sector is just like Nigeria’s or even worse,you can’t tell me nothing man.

JOHANNESBURG (AP) — South Africans are struggling in the dark to cope with increased power cuts that have hit households and businesses across the country.

The rolling power cuts have been experienced for years but this week the country’s state-owned power utility Eskom extended them so that some residents and businesses have gone without power for more than 9 hours a day.

A strike by Eskom workers added to the utility’s woes including breakdowns of its aging coal-fired power plants, insufficient generation capacity and corruption, according to experts.

The prolonged power cuts are hitting South Africans in the winter months of the Southern Hemisphere when many households rely on electricity for heat, light and cooking.

Small and large businesses have had to close down for prolonged periods or spend large amounts for diesel fuel to operate generators. Anger and frustration is widespread among business owners and customers at the power cuts, which Eskom calls load shedding.


FILE - A coal-fired power station in Witbank, South Africa , Monday, Oct. 11, 2021. South Africans are struggling in the dark to cope with increased power cuts that have hit households and businesses across the country. The rolling power cuts have been experienced for years but this week the country’s state-owned power utility Eskom extended them so that some residents and businesses have gone without power for more than 9 hours a day. (AP Photo/Themba Hadebe, File)
JOHANNESBURG (AP) — South Africans are struggling in the dark to cope with increased power cuts that have hit households and businesses across the country.

The rolling power cuts have been experienced for years but this week the country’s state-owned power utility Eskom extended them so that some residents and businesses have gone without power for more than 9 hours a day.

A strike by Eskom workers added to the utility’s woes including breakdowns of its aging coal-fired power plants, insufficient generation capacity and corruption, according to experts.

The prolonged power cuts are hitting South Africans in the winter months of the Southern Hemisphere when many households rely on electricity for heat, light and cooking.

Small and large businesses have had to close down for prolonged periods or spend large amounts for diesel fuel to operate generators. Anger and frustration is widespread among business owners and customers at the power cuts, which Eskom calls load shedding.


The power blackouts are here to stay say experts who warn it will take years to substantially increase South Africa’s capacity to generate power. South Africa mines coal and relies heavily on coal-fired plants, which causes noticeable air pollution. The country is looking to increase power production from solar and other renewable sources.

“The big picture is that we were at least expecting (heavy power cuts) this winter,” said energy expert Hilton Trollip. “Eskom told us at the end of last year that there was a chronic power shortage ... What that means is that until we have a substantial amount of extra generation on the grid, we will continue to be at the risk of load shedding at any stage. The question then is how bad will the load shedding be?”

He lamented the impact of the blackouts on the economy.

“The most direct economic consequence is when businesses have to stop production because they don’t have electricity ... whether you have a factory, a travel agency or you have a shop,” said Trollip. “Whenever economic activity is disrupted because there is no electricity, that is a direct cost to the economy.”

The power cuts are costing South Africa well over $40 million per day and deterring investment, say economists. South Africa’s economy, Africa’s most developed, is already in recession and is suffering a 35% unemployment rate.

Small businesses in the country’s townships, suburbs and rural areas are among the hardest hit by the effects of the rolling blackouts, said Trollip.

Buhle Ndlovu, a teacher at a nursery school in Soweto, Johannesburg’s largest township, said the power cuts increased her costs to run the school.

“We cater to about 40 children here. We need to feed healthy meals to them daily,” said Ndlovu. “At the rate we charge we can’t afford to take on additional costs to buy gas in order for us to cook. Loadshedding has really made it difficult for us.”

She said it is a challenge to take care of children by candlelight until parents come to pick up their kids well after dark.



Some shops, however, are getting new business from the power cuts, like Uri’s Power Center which is seeing brisk sales of power generators, batteries and other backup systems.

“I think people should definitely look to become less reliant on Eskom. I don’t believe that the power situation is going to resolve itself any time soon,” said owner Adam Zimmerman at his shop in the Randburg area. “We’re all aware of Eskom problems and people have various options whether to invest in a generator to run their business or home.”

On Friday, Eskom chief executive Andre de Ruyter said at a press conference that the crisis was receiving serious attention and that he had personally briefed President Cyril Ramaphosa about what the company is doing to keep the lights on.


https://apnews.com/article/africa-johannesburg-south-climate-and-environment-6d508d26614e7aee1a0e23cfc030dd6b?utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&ut

Ojota - opening link bridge. Well on course and should be completed Q2 2023. A road that incorporates waterway for water transport. Lagos is on some genius engineering this days.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xAHDFEfyc0

This is what the pro type looks like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPI-RC3-Qzg

The redline is actually very massive( one of Africa’s top HIGH SPEED RAIL. Something SA cannot hack).

It’s well on course and we should we riding our sweet rail by Christmas


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd6MqAjJIIg

jl115:
@samorobo... Chech this graph from the Imf

Fair enough .
I will look into it more when I am a bit chanced.

jl115:
Bully MTN? If you wanted to bully MTN you could've kicked them out of Nigeria or nationalised them.... But no you gave them a slap on the wrist for potentially aiding Boko Haram......MTN has bullied the Nigerian government, not the other way around

Nope. We sanctioned them with huge funds and they came begging on their knees in aso rock,pleading for mercy. Now that doesn’t speak superiority mate.

jl115:
OK Twitter is now South African since its owned by a South African..... I like your logic sammyboy

I don't have to look at a video to tell you there as never ever been 10 hours of loadshedding in one go.....

Nope Twitter is American. American wealth made Elon musk not shabby SA. Fix your economy and stop day dreaming.

jl115:
Bully MTN? If you wanted to bully MTN you could've kicked them out of Nigeria or nationalised them.... But no you gave them a slap on the wrist for potentially aiding Boko Haram......MTN has bullied the Nigerian government, not the other way around

You running over to ado rock on your knees doesn’t portray you as the bad gut with all the cards, rather it’s portrays you are a scared pussy begging to survive.
That doesn’t speak influence now does it?

jl115:
Twitter is still twitter just like shop rite is still Shoprite.... And it not a superior move to buy a business..... Its just business, either way we make money.

- there has never been loadshedding for longer than 2.5 hours....that 10 hours you talking about is a made up story

Nope Twitter belong to Elon musk,whoever created it is now largely irrelevant.

Somewhere along this video this nigga talked about the previous load shedding before this one last up to 10 hours and he had to leave his house for somewhere else,so yeah .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUmHKyUrz2s

jl115:
My bru and you think SA doesn't have the same influence? Are you good bro?

Also being on G20, BRICS ect ect means we have the ability to make decisions that affect Africa as a whole.... Also I've clearly showed you that SAs GDP is $436 billion

Nonsense. What decision have you made that has in anyway affected or influenced Africa.
Your tags are just as useless as the P in psychology.


And yes your gdp is nothing close to the figure you are quoting. It’s a mere $320bn economy. You only showed me estimates not the real deal.

jl115:
Why would they leave when you are gifting our companies billions in revenue?? The mere fact that the fine that MTN got was just a slap on the wrist is what actually screams influence

The mere fact we could bully you with outrageous prices and have you come beg for mercy doesn’t position you as the one with the influence,in fact if there is anything it’s speak cowardice,weakness,pushover and the lists go on and on.

Influence comes with power. You don’t value anyone’s but your decision. You speak and you want it done otherwise your inferiors face the consequences. You going to beg and nag to the media is nothing short of sissy-ness. I hope the picture is clear this time

jl115:
- who founded shop rite?

- nope, Eskom produces 5 times Nigeria can produce....your generator fumes must be getting to your head

You found it,we bought. Superior move.
Elon musk is the new owner of Twitter,who ever found it is irrelevant.

-uhmm nope I just say a video where a certain American guy that relocated to SA complained of enduring load shedding in Cape Town for about 10 hours. Now that right there is Nigeria. So permit me to gloat my laatije.

jl115:
ohh my fvck bru!! this gibberish above is why you think Nigeria has more influence than SA? Let me just say this: G20, Brics, EU strategic partner, Largest African FDI contributer....

If control a country’s economy and interfering in their internal politics is not influence then I don’t what else influence could be described as. Perhaps you need to update your archaic dictionary.

Your G20 title abd all that havent give any influence whatsoever on Nigeria,so really what’s the point. You are just a mere $300bn economy piggybacking on the effort of other sane countries in those categories.

GeneralDae:
If these their companies really influence Nigeria, then how is it that Buhari could fine MTN and Multichoice huge sums amounting to Billions of Naira for tax evasion?

Note: They both didn't leave the country despite the outrageous sums levied on them, they only pleaded with Government to pay less and be good boys henceforth.

Oh that’s true, I remember that incident.
@ jl115 over to you.
The bolded doesn’t speak influence,it’s screams I am at your mercy.

@gallivant Kenya’s inflation is becoming unbearable but your double standard was seen when you were making fun of Ghanaians.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BgIl31iHBQ

jl115:
-Who founded shoprite? Was it a Nigerian?.... No it wasn't, no stop acting like you did.

- I asked you if you want to see the report..... I find it hypocritical that you fully supported these same figures when I was debating the kenyans yet now you want to question figures that are straight from the IMF... But here is the link to the full report as well https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WEO/Issues/2022/04/19/world-economic-outlook-april-2022

-actually stage 2....and like I said, get to 20% of Eskom then we can talk.... Or maybe when you one day don't need your generator then call me up bru ..... Also remind me what Nigerias electrification rate is again?

I am not about to go on and on.

Shoprite Nigeria belongs to Nigerians. Stop with the sticky fingers

And yes eskom now supply about the same electricity we consume to SA. So yes I will make fun of it,so brace yourself and stop heckling.

jl115:
- OK let me switch it up.... How does Nigeria influence anyone with the sane logic you applied above?

Is this even a question?. We influence politics,economy in this region we’ve interfered in some countries internal affair here(govt affairs and their politics). Same with economy. The most recent was when we shut our boarders down and most of our neighbors economy hit rock bottom. Now that there is influence not some nonsense secondary school girls talk on shoprite and DSTV. Learn to separate investment from influence. A company cannot influence Nigeria,A country can and so far no country has,talk more of common SA.

Kazikazi:
Only Zanzibar?

We made museveni to be a president of Uganda

We appointed Nyusi to be a president of Mozambique

We trained and made kabila a ruler of DRC

We trained mnangagwa,a current Zimbabwe president

We trained Kagame,a dude who is ruling Rwanda

That's influence. We appoint rulers.


Swahili is now all over Africa. We spread it.Any Superpower should've a language of her own



I can't keep on repeating how we founded SADC and EAC .

That's influence.

No need to talk about companies, any nation has a company or two beyond her borders

Swahili is not a thing here. Most people don’t even know there is a language called Swahili. It’s practically useless in west Africa,or specifically Nigeria. You should try influencing your economy before dreaming big. Thanks

jl115:
Did Nigerians not shop at shoprite when it was still owned by Shoprite group? Also its influence just like KFC is US influence....

The argument was never the sort of influence China or USA has.... It was simply down to which African countries has the most influence be it how small or big

- we shopped at shoprite when you owned it but we decided to switch it up by buying the entire venture and upgrade it. The past should not even be up for discussion,it’s simply not the crux of this matter. Bla de bla, we are the ow era of shoprite Nigeria,no amount of wailing will change that. Now Take that to access bank and cash it

- Uhmm no ret@rd,it’s called investment and not influence,get the difference. You influence no one,not even Namibia.

jl115:
- so far you've only showed me Shoprite that is now fully owned by Nigerians.... Still doesn't change the fact that it will still be associated with the Shoprite Group which SAn

- do you want the report? But then again you'll make another ret@rded excuse to dismiss it..

- my stories ain't fanatical but simple fact..... Also you can talk about Eskom once Nigeria can produce a 5th of what Eskom produces

- Shoprite is owned by Nigerians, we already paid you for both the babe and the entire company. So yeah it’s Nigerian you fraud. Stop trying to Take that glory.

- uhmmm no. You tried to sell me some silly cheap lie you fraud. It’s clearly stated there that it is an estimate but I trust you went blind to see that.

- Your eskom provide about the same daily power supply as Nigeria (remember you should at stage 20 load shedding by now ) so give me a pass when I decide to call that out and make a mockery of it. Classic example of “how the mighty has fallen”.

jl115:
yes I mentioning shoprite since it is still a South African company.

The fact that you watch DSTV, bank at Stanbic and by your groceries at Shoprite... That is influence

So this is the influence. Now I know I was wasting my time.


We watch dstv cos it’s our content and not SAns,so I don’t see the influence. Plus we are the partial owners down here.

STANBIC ibtc is no where near the top performing banks so rest.

We shop in shoprite cos we own the goddam place. I mean why not.

jl115:
- I don't know which are partially owned by Nigerians or not, but the fact remains those are South African franchises and people recognise it as such

-yes and KFC franchises in Nigeria are also owned by Nigerians but we all know KFC is a USA product

- yes the 2022 figure is an estimate but the 2021 figure of $418 billion is published in the April 2022 WEO report

- how are things changing for the worse when IPP have been approved by government and Eskom is being decentralised?

We are paying fir the name,otherwise we are 100% owners so yeah it’s no longer a SAns but a Nigerian.

Liar, it’s clearly stated there than both 2021 and 2022 are estimates ret@rd. It was probably released before your 2021 economic reports were released.

- when eskom becomes competent then hit me otherwise save me your fanatical stories.

jl115:
look my laaitjie, Nigerian companies aren't household names In SA like DSTV, MTN, Shoprite, Showmax, Stanbic Bank, Remgro ect ect are In Nigeria.... Now again what do those companies do?

You are still mentioning shoprite. Oga shop rite Nigeria no longer belongs to SA. It’s owned by a Nigerian group.

I don’t have time for this needless back and forth argument,show me how you have influenced us or stfu.

Don’t quote me if you can’t do what I requested of you.

jl115:
- I said I would like to see actual atms and banks...access bank is virtually unknown in SA unlike Stanbic bank which is a household name.

- so 2 out of the 3 sites you just mentioned are South African

- here is the link... Go check it out for yourself https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WEO/weo-database/2021/October/weo-report?c=199&s=NGDPD

- cool story bru... However we grew 4.9% in 2021...and we are expected to grow 3.7% in 2022 which is more than Nigeria which is expected to grow by 3.4%

- and yet our Cities continue to rank highly wrt QOL and yours continue to rank at the bottom.

- also you talk about Eskom while you are running your generator all day just to post on Nairaland?

- household what. Thesame ventures that are fully owned or partially owned by Nigerians.

- yes and their branches are co-owned by Nigerians. So what’s the fuss?

- silly cow. It’s and estimate as they stated not reality.

- We are we king solution,SA is stucked in eskom rot. 2 decades back this wasn’t the case in SA but things appears to be changing fir the worse.

jl115:
what is jumia and pay stack?

Stupid question but let me assist a ret@rded kid when I can.

Nigeria companies in SA.

I thought you will also ask me of dangote


Now tell me how SA has managed to influence Nigeria. Lol the whole world is waiting to hear it.

jl115:
- Did I say access bank doesn't exist?

- cool story bro, now tell me on which service provider do you and these so called millions of SAns watch these shows on?

-I'm not debating you wrt SA GDP since it 100% is $436billion as per the latest IMF report... See pic

- Nigeria an oil rich nation, with a massive population could only barely out grow a state captured SA over the past decade..... Let that sink in!!.

-SA infrastructure gap 0.6% Nigeria infrastructure gap 30%

- thought you once claimed it isn’t there. Refreshing to see you know better now

- Netflix,DSTV, showmax and the list goes on and on.

- firstly where those Ur show SA? Secondly don’t show me snapshot of something that can be recreated with Microsoft excel. You gdp is a mere $329bn you fraud.

- Nigeria has grown out of economics recession and would be doing Atleast 5% or above this year. SA would be lucky to do 0.5% this year. Now that right there is the difference. You are sinking - we are crawling out.

- yours is decaying, ours is getting better. Joburg cbd is becoming one big dumpsite,just like Durban and Pretoria, it’s only Capetown and sandton tgat seems to be getting it right.
What of Eskom load shedding . Nah I do t think you want me talking about that.

jl115:
so there is only one office in the entire country?

This is what I want you to show me:

Lol just randomly saw another South Africa franchise on the second photo how can I forget multichoice??

Also, Might I remind you that Jumia, paystack is also in SA.
Same with dangote cement

jl115:
Let's get a couple of things straight.... 1. Our franchises are all over Nigeria and are actually well known, unlike Access bank which I've never heard of niether have I heard of Grobank.

2. The fact is DSTV is well known in Nigeria, that's the point, also Ive never seen BB Nigeria or real housewives in Lagos.... Sounds ret@rded if you ask me.

3. Our economy is $436 billion in 2022 not 300....maybe you missed the part where we rebased our GDP

4. Nigerias average growth rate over the last 10 years isn't even 2% I believe.... Even though your population is over 200mil

That you haven’t heard of access bank doesn’t mean it’s doesn’t exist. Get off that high horse,your ignorance is not the standard.

Also because you haven’t heard or watch BBNAIJA, RHOL and other popular Nigerian tv shows doesn’t mean million of SAns arent head of heels for this shows. We see their comment on our screens,Twitter,this celebs pages(tiktok,Instagram,YouTube) and comments section,heck some even go as far as creating SA fan pages for this Nigerian celebrities - yeah obsessed is the word.
Again your ignorance is not the standard here.

And nope your economy is a mere $329bn to be precise. Egypt has surpassed you to be Africa’s second largest economy and I think they are around $390bn ,so go sell that cheap lies somewhere else.
Atleast you admit we grew,SA has been economically,politically, socio-economically and ,infrastructurally retrogressive for more than 2 decades now. Hit me the year you decide to grow Atleast 0.5%, otherwise we are ready receive the usual SA prognosis of 0.1-0.2% on a good day,on bad days is -8%

And yeah I am still waiting for you to point out how you can influence or better still give an instance where the common stagnant SA influenced Nigeria. Lol that can never be possible. We would all rather die than ever let common SA influence us. Gawd forbid rubbish.


And yes every of your ventures here are either fully bought ,partially owned by Nigerians. So
Please save it already.

jl115:
so there is only one office in the entire country?

This is what I want you to show me:

Lol just randomly saw another South Africa franchise on the second photo how can I forget multichoice??

Strawman argument. You asked for just a single presence of Nigerian companies in SA,I showed you that now you are down to counting numbers and splitting hairs. All grobank branches in SA is now access bank,the SA headquarters is in sandton.

Your multichoice is a dead joke without Nigeria contents,talents and investment. Little wonder why shows like big brother naija, Real housewives of Lagos is a big deal across the continent but her counterparts in SA is not heard of outside mzanzi republic.

And yes again, having an investment here doesn’t mean you control shiit. You are daft if you think common SA has any influence whatsoever in Nigeria. Lol you are a mere $300bn economy,you can never pull that off. Focus on seeing 1% growth annually for the next decade. That shou on d consume all your attention.

jl115:
now show me a picture of just one bank or atm.... Not an office building

He has giving you the coordinates.Drive down there and stop grasping at straws.