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ajabani4allah:
I am planning to roof a 3 bedroom bungalow soon. Pls I need your advice on roofing sheet. Should I go for Aluminum roofing sheet or Slate(Nigerite Litespan) roofing sheet, the prices are close? Thanks

What's the thickness of the roofing sheet? - if it's less than 0.5mm, then i'll advice you go for Nigerite Litespan.

i.e my 1st choice would be a 0.55mm thick Aluminium roofing sheet, then a 0.5mm thick and then the Nigerite slate. (0.45mm is not advisable now because the thickness are not complete as it used to be before now)

cc: timilehing

Olaide1295:
Hello all,

I bought a duplex last year and completed it. I wanted to install a water pressure pump recently, so I called a plumber to help assess the plumbing.
He says the plumbing of the house (which was done before I purchased it) was done with inferior quality pipes.
Is there any solution to this? Or a water pressure pump with adjustable pressure.
Thanks

Their is nothing like inferior quality pipes sir.

Your building was designed to receive water under gravity... if you want to upgrade to booster pump, then YOU MUST UPGRADE your piping system or the entire pipe wld burst and water go scatter every where.

GOODLUCK

opera1:
To construct the building now.

not expensive - pay

opera1:
Workmanship

You're hounding information, yet you need help...

please give full details - WORKMANSHIP FOR WHAT?

opera1:
Pls how many blocks can construct 4 bedroom flat?

..... And labor cost coz the man handling it said 750k last

Depends on your design...
But do you mean 750k for workmanship or 7500 blocks?

Well, on the average about 5000 blocks shd do the job.... (not certain until design is seen).

Goodluck

Hycon:
Please what type of doors are the best?

Imported Casted door or locally made welder door.
All we want is durability.

Below is the one from a welder and the other is a casted door

Go local.
Goodluck

MDDarah84:
Please what are the likely disadvantages of using 6 inches cement blocks instead of 9 inches for a 3 bedroom bungalow?

Thank you

Cement block?.
There is no disadvantage on using 6 inches over 9 inches even for storey buildings..

It all comes down to the quality, but since you said cement block, I expect it's of good quality.


Goodluck

oracle009:
My people... I am here again o. My head is just doing gbas gbos at the moment. The estimates my contractor gave me (less than 1 month again) is about 1m+ off for each activities. Very unreliable estimates. These have greatly affected my planning.

Please I need a quote for roofing 270sqm. I need to know the roofing options that I have (cheap, cheaper, cheapest ). I have attached the former quote my contractor gave me (white) and the house plan.

Note: the roof dimension na 270sqm.

I also need quote from someone who make bulglary, aluminum windows, iron door and american panels.

I also need for POP also. I want to start taking actions myself currently because they don almost make me craze

I am willing to contract reliable people here if we have a good deal compared to what's on ground. The project is in Abeokuta, so let's also think about proximity to service center. I am opened to DM after confirming your service from gurus here.
E se o. We no go get hypertension o

IF
if the 3x4 is for WALL PLATE and TIEBEAM you'll need about 67 pcs
if the 2x6 is for KING POST and RAFTER you'll need about 59 pcs
if the 2x3 is for PURLINS and STRUTS you'll need about 150pcs (using long span roofing sheet.)
for the 2by2 you'll need less than 250 pcs depending on ceiling type and spacing

ROOFING SHEET is about 240m2

I'm okay with all other quote - overall I don't think its a bad quote, just work with a reduced quantity of 2x2 and 2x3.

GOODLUCK

bnanny:
Thanks bro. Can I get your what'sapp contact?

Its in my signature also.
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ajabani4allah:
To the Ogas here, pls how does biodigester soakaway system work? Is it better than the normal convectional soakway?

Stick with the normal.. It's cheaper on the long run..

bnanny:
Please house. I want someone to please tell me how much it will cost to construct 5 bedroom duplex in the present day Nigeria.

Hi.

Let's talk about factors that influence coat rather (as there is no single range given that can go for all 5 bedroom duplex)

No1. Type of soil - on a waterlogged soil, the amount spent on foundation can take you to decking level on a solid land.

No2. Location of land - approval fees varies, the more classy the area, the more millions you pay. And approval apart, cost of a tipper of sand or granite in Ajah is different from cost in Edo, Ikorodu or even ikeja. The closer you are to the quarry, the cheaper.

No3. Choose of design and sizes of spaces - you might be ok with a 3m x 3.6m master bedroom while another person might want a 4.5m by 6m masters with WIC.

No4. Workmanship - If Baba TJ is building your house, expect him to charge less than if a qualified person is....

No5. Choice of materials - Nigerian tiles and doors or Italian tiles with Turkey doors? - what's your taste, this extends to roofing and even simple items as Somi wood and bamboo ?

No6. Building height, window sizes and doors sizes etc

No7. Building practises - are you following the standard practice which includes German floor, Dpc etc or wld you be employing some less expensive BUT acceptable practices? Eg frame structure to normal construction, 150mm German Floor to 100mm etc

My advice - get yourself a design and you'll be nearer to knowing exactly what it wld cost you.

Goodluck

money121:
UpDate on Number 1. FEMALE SCAMMER ON NAIRALAND
OMOWUNMI ALLEN OMOTAYO

Brother,

How does a mother and child issues concern us here or warrant a scam tag?

You might have your personal issues with her, but this here is un-warranted.

No disrespect brother... But this is even a DEM SAY, DEM SAY issue... Not like you were there now.

No disrespect pls.... But Personal issues shd be kept personal.

cash1115:
Good day NL fam.
I want to ask for opinions of everyone here. Many of our ogas and beloved clients are here. We also have here is fellow artisans who may likely have experienced this thing. I have talked about this here some time ago.

To the glory of God, I've worked with several nairalanders and I've had 90% positive experience from both home-based and abroad-based clients. However, there are few not-so-great clients which is expected as people differ. The grouse here is about some potential clients who would ask you to come to their site (especially in another town/state) to take measurements or even start immediately, only for them to leave you stranded without any tangible reason than saying "You're a scam". I recently had this bitter experience from someone who contacted me from here. We've discussed and she was well aware of my location and that I had to travel to where her site is located. I left home as early as 6am and got there around 9a.m. we were supposed to get the materials on that day. I met with the site engineer who said he had no knowledge of what I'm talking about even though she said otherwise. I called her and she said she's busy and I have to wait till 1pm before she send money. I waited. And by that time she changed tone, telling me she cant trust me, someone from a different city, with her job. I was very surprised. I tried explaining things to her and she just went off and called me all sorts. I was so stunned I didn't even know what to do. The day was wasted. Time, money and resources all wasted. I had rejected a job slotted for that day because I was so sure I was going to get materials for her site as we discussed. I was given #5k for tfare even though I spent double of that. I didn't want any wahala, na so I traveled back. It felt surreal but it is what it is.

Now, this is the second time I'm experiencing this. The first time was when I went to Benin and I was communicating with the woman till I get to Benin after a whole day journey only for her to do a turnaround. Since then, I do ask for tfare at least from prospective clients. Especially if I have to travel to your site. You can deduct it from my payments if I eventually start the job, if not, I lose nothing. That worked but not all clients agree to it.
Sometimes even, when some refuse mobilization fee, I tell them at least pay for the materials directly to the outlet I'm buying. That way, even if na scam, they get the materials and I get nothing. We all know as Nigeria be so I'm not offended that some clients want to be 100% sure. But as you as a client is trying to be safe, please also consider the artisans.
We also take risks to go to people and sites that we don't know. We've seen cases of people who were kidnapped or robbed just because they went to check a site. And there's also this particular matter I just raised. We should be able to meet each other halfway because life itself is a risk.

Sorry about your bad experience.
Its what it is.... I don't even know what to advice.

But keep being real no matter what, ie be transparent in your dealing.

Lastly - you have proferred a solution while BEND it?

You said you ask for transport for out of state jobs... LOOK - any1 that cannot pay your transport to come check a site in ANOTHER STATE - take it or leave it is not your client. Abort it.

In the same state no issues but another state, he or she shd pay the trans to show commitment also.

Goodluck.

Toaskido:
Please who can give an estimate of how much it would cost to roof a two bedroom apartment right now, location is Ibadan.
And what type of roofing immaterial will you advise?
Thank you.

Perhaps 3m should do... Any roofing sheet of your choose (Gerrard or longspan)

dongc:
You are a Gem...I always look forward to your comments...Thank you for all your efforts and contributions...cheers

Thanks boss.
I appreciate your kind words.... God bless you more.

Noworries11:
@all
Sorry for the late responses, was caught up by an event however with the numerous inputs, I have decided to go on with the site engineer while I watch closely on how the materials are used. Thank you guys

Great decision.

You can always send your drawings and association quotation if you need a check as long as it's not a now now thing lol ie I might need a day or two to sort it.

Goodluck

MDDarah84:
Hello bosses,

Please can #20m complete this structure with the interior design?

Thank you

Let me list 20 things that wld cost more than 1m while building this.

1. Foundation
2. German Floor
3. Blockwork
4. Parapet
5. Roofing (roof covering)
6. Carcass and ceiling
7. Window and doors
8. Ironmongery
9. Electrical /Plumbing piping
10. Electrical wires
11. Electrical/plumbing fittings
12. Plastering
13. Screeding / painting
14. Tiles only
15. Bricklayer Workmanship
16. Carpenter/ Iron Bender /Tiler workmanship
17. Furnitures (wardrobe and kitchen cabinet)
18. Fence work
19. Septic tank and soak away
20. Compound work


If all the above cost only 1m, then you've already spent 20m but some of the items above eg Electrical wires, roof, septic tank, etc cost more than 1 million.

Answer: 20 million can't build this sir.

alphabbey1:
I need someone to please criticize this quote given by an engineer...

Estimation For Decking

IRON- y16. 75length @ 18,000
Y12.400 length @ 10000=
Y10.98. Lengths@6500
Labour 200,000
Transport 30,000
Total = 4,825,000

Woods
1 by 6 200pic@800 =160,000
1 by 9 50pic @1600= 80,000
2 by 3 300pic @ 600= 180,000
1 by 12 420pic @ 1800=756,000
3inch Nail 2 bags 45,000
2inch Nail 2 bags 40,000
4inch Nail 1 bag. 22,000
Binding wire 20kg 32,000
Bamboo 400pic @1200=480,000
Workmanship 250,000
Total =2,045,000

MATERIALS FOR CASTING
2 HOWO 200,000
Gravel 40tons@6500=260,000
Transport 70,000
Dust 30ton 6500= 174,000
Transport 55,000
Filling 30,000
Casting 300,000
Water 50,000
Vibrator Available
Curing 5days 5000
Total 3,080,000

Electrical
8pack of 20mm pipe @ 12,000=96,000
5 pack of 25mm pipe @ 16,000= 80,000
4pkt’s 20mm cop 3000=12,000
2pkt of 20mm cop small@1900=3800
4pkt of 25mm cop 2000=8,000
1 pvc gum big one =4000
Workmanships. =. 60,000
Total 263,800

Plumbing
4” pipe 6pic @ 4500=27,000
4” elbow 10pic @1000= 10,000
2” pipe 15pic. 2500=37,500
2”elbow 15pic. 500=7,500
2” tee 10pic. @ 500=5000
4” tee 10pic@ 1000= 10,000
4by2 tee. 8pic@1200= 9600
Abro gum. =9000
PPR pipe 5pic 2000=10,000
Workmanships = 50,000
Total 175,600

Total = 10,393,600



The stages of the work is below and stage 4 is about to start

Stages of the work
*FOUNDATION LEVEL
*BLOCK WORK AFTER DPC BEFORE THE LINTEL
*LINTEL AND LEVELING BEFORE DECKING
*DECKING, SLABING BEFORE THE FIRST FLOOR
*FIRST FLOOR, BLOCK WORK
*LINTEL AND LEVELING
*PARAPET AND ROOFING

What baffles me most on here is people look at a quotation and they conclude it's too much.... WITHOUT HAVING A VIEW OF THE AREA OR DETAILS associated with the estimate.

For note. A 2 bedroom can cost 1m to build while a 1 bedroom wld cost 2m.

Its not by number of rooms and it's not by area alone...

My advice is simple.
Get sm1 to do the estimate for you for comparism sake... The elevations you attached don't have enough details to know if the estimate is excessive or not.

Goodluck.

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I EXPECT AN ACCLAIMED BEST FIRM TO KNOW THAT...

ajabani4allah:
Which is cheaper and better between polystyrene and Aluminum parapet?

Aluminium is not even a option.. Obviously that's why it's cheaper.

ajabani4allah:
Pls where is TeeWhy2? It's been awhile

He's fine... Just busy with some projects.

Iriruaga100:
Go with your site engineer. Buy half of everything he requested for first and supervise the job. Run from the alternate engineer as fast as you can.

Buying half wld only make him spend more and that's what he's trying to prevent because it's added transportation.

For a note... It's 8 bedroom duplex... I even see him using more than what was quoted for...

Solution: He shd get an experienced person to check the quantity needed by sharing the plan or he shd buy everything his supervisor asked for.

We can't keep believing that ALL supervisors are cheats.... If we assume that, then it also means me, you and everyone here is a cheat as well.

There are good people still out there and I see his supervisor as one.

That quotation is as good as accurate.

Cc: Noworries11

Noworries11:
My country people and elders in the building
Na my first time to build.... I kept bringing out money so tey i spent way above my budget just to get to lintel phase however please I need an advise for an estimate cost for the decking for a semi detached duplex (4 bedroom each duplex I.e 8 bedroom semi-detached duplex)

The site engr has estimated about #4,226,000 just for the rods (decking) while another engr on the side who is willing to handle has estimated #1,050,000

Brethren to say I am confused is an understatement

I decided to run here and perhaps get professional advice.
Please note that this is the cost for rod alone

Let me break it further how they arrived at the said amount

Site Engr;
70 lengths of 16mm rod @17,000 =#1,190,000
300 lengths of 12mm rod @9,400 =#2,820,000
50 lengths of 8mm rod-@3400 =#170,000
Binding wire = #45000
Total = #4,225,000

*Alternate Engr*

2) *ROD 16M² 25PIECES PER 1? N14,500× 25 = N350,000*

3) *ROD 12M² 60 PIECES PER 1? N9,200 × 60 = N552,000*

4) *ROD 8M² 30 PIECESB PER 1? N4,500 × 30 = N135,000*

6) *BANDING WIRE #20,000*

Total = N1,057,000

Please make una choke mouth for the matter

Its obvious you need help not because of the 4m quote but rather because you believe 1m quote is possible.

Like you said, it's a 4 bed duplex (x2).

I'll advice you stick with the 4m guy.... 1 tonne of Rebar is almost 900k, so how can 1m rebar do the job.

Look through my profile, you'll find a post that solves you problem ie I've done a post on HOW TO CALCULATE NOS. OF REBAR NEEDED.

Goodluck.

therealMcCain:
Thanks for your input. I appreciate.

1. What advantage does this modification have over the former ? Just curious

2. The width is 1500. Can this accommodate a door and window ?

No1. With that door in the kitchen, it's difficult to position a sink and a gas cooker in the kitchen, the door basically makes that kitchen a lobby from the inside to the outside.

No2. Yes, I saw it's 1500mm, a door of 750mm by 2100mm and a window of 600mm by 1200mm would perfectly fit in.. (it's an exit door not the main door, so 750mm is more than enough)

Goodluck....

ajabani4allah:
Good day everyone, I am planning on getting roofing sheet for a 3 bedroom bungalow, pls I will need your advice on which one to get between Aluminum sheet (Long span, step tiles or metrocopo) and Nigerite Litespan slate. Thanks in anticipation

What you get is not as important of THICKNESS of what you get.

They're all OK.
Just make sure you get a thickness that's OK (0.5 or 0.55 preferably).

Goodluck

Port443:
Good day guys. I built my bq in such a way that it can hold two thanks. We put nylon before the decking but I need something to prevent water from leaking through the roof. Is there a coating that can prevent water from over filled thank and rain from soaking the plastered decking?

Sorry but the nylon is as good as nothing...

You need 2 LAYERS OF SCUDOPLAST, then screed over it and lay tiles on it.

Even a layer of scudoplast won't do the job.

Goodluck

therealMcCain:
Guys please help me critize this plan. I initially wanted them to be detached units but I changed my mind.

I specifically asked for the rooms to have some form of cross ventilation.

Thanks for the tag..
99% Okay but to make the KITCHEN more FUNCTIONAL, please do this (see attached pics) relocate the door out of the kitchen.

Consider it a must do please.
Thanks.

Note:
Red = Window
Blue = Door
Black = Blockwork

Shady92:
Thank you so much sir. I was thinking of removing the ante room leaving only the v.toilet for more ventilation. What do you think about it sir.

The Ante room can still be there thou..

Just a little adjustment needed to make everything perfect.

Shady92:
Good evening bosses in the house. Please i need criticism on this floor plan of 4bedroom floor. Thanks

Share the attached with your Architect and see how he can improve on it...

Red = Living
Blue = Ante
Magenta = V. Toi

Goodluck

Shady92:
Good evening bosses in the house. Please i need criticism on this floor plan of 4bedroom floor. Thanks

Note.
I saw a comment on shifting the toilet doors to one side.

NO.

The doors are better where they are, it makes the place more functional.

twinskenny:
Guys good morning, a client want to make a decision on some bathroom design, the space is small… now they want to choose between bath cubicle or bath tubs… which do you think is more decent?

Cubicles