₦airaland Forum

aswani:
Whilst I agree the very erudite DomPerignon is not doing right to target the thread at SE and didn't really didn't need to do it, all of this is IMHO pushback against Obidients targeting Ala Yoruba with nonsense because Peter Obi lost to President Tinubu.

Be part of those stopping the problem at source, when you see Obidients typing blatant lies against ala Yoruba, call it out. That way we wouldn't need to have threads like this.

It's understandable but I thought Obidient movement was a national political movement. Besides I'm not in any political movement unless a case that is directly affecting SE or Igbo group. I must commend Nairaland moderators for their efforts in containing Igbophobia which almost eroded the value of the forum in recent years.
With that said, I don't see any reason why a national discuss should target a specific group of people just because it's convenient. If you feel Obidient movement targets Yoruba as a group, and you made your case, every reasonable person will Identify with you. I believe the moderators of the forum will as well identify that and take actions.

Another targeted attack on south east. This is a clear case of physiological attack on group of people because of your prejudice. Tell me, all these you mentioned, how will it be different from other regions if there is no solid structure and oversight?

Bendeco02:
Guy, I followed you from page 1 and observed that your problem is jealous and I can say you're not from Anioma.

The people/activists fighting for Anioma state and for it to be zoned to SE are from Anioma.

Direct your anger and jealous towards them and stop crying here

Correct I'm not from from Delta state, neither am I from Delta north or Igbo community in Edo state. Secondly I'm not jealous of anyone or group. I doubt there is anything to be jealous of, unless you can remind me of what to be jealous of.
Thank God you made a little study of my foot print on this platform, you will know very well that I have a very strong pan Igbo sentiment and am very proud of it. I'm am a pro Nigerian that is inclusive to all.
Back to the topic, I gave you what Anioma State can gain from new state creation into SE

CSTRR:
Mr Man, tell me one good thing anioma stand to gain from joining the South East.

Just one good thing. You would find that there is none.

Stop pouring spit everywhere.
You are a nobody to tell me who I am and where I come from.

1. Anioma stands to gain a state
2. Anioma stands to gain more federal presence, 2 more senators and more house members.
3. Anioma get to have 100% control of her development.

tunjijones:
South east no get mouth for Nigeria nau.

No be today.

pls explain to us. How south east no carry get mouth??

CSTRR:
Thank you, captain obvious.
Yes, those men are majority owners for a reason, and they represent anioma interests.
Publicly listing their companies does not stop it from being anioma owned.

And it will remain anioma-owned till the end of time.

The real question is, what exactly do you have to contribute to anioma, apart from clannishness and insecurity?
Despite outnumbering the anioma nation atleast 10:1, you can't even boast of a world class multinational organization.

What do you want to give anioma that we don't already have, or are not capable of creating on our own?

What your point exactly? You think Anioma people are superior to say Ngwa people or wawa people. I don't understand?

oyichi:
Goodluck

You are welcome. Anioma State will be for Anioma people. A state for Ika people, Ndokwa people and Enuani people

oyichi:
thanks, time shall tell, continue wasting your opportunity

Hello, State creation is not an emotional service, state will be created for south east because the leadership is serious about it. This is one of president Tinubu Legacy. Anioma State will be created but if it fails then we have Adada or Anim state. My personal sentiment have been to ignore any south south Igbo group because of identity crisis but logic will always prevail. Anioma State is more profitable to Igbo people in Delta state and South East at large but a state inside current South East will bring more developments to our people.

oyichi:
The creation of one more state for the south east is a rare opportunity for them, an opportunity to attract meaningful development, jobs and more representation in the federal level but instead of them to look inward among their five states and carve out a state for approval, they opted to land grabbing, despite the people of delta north saying that they don't want to be lumped to the south east, they continued their fruitless dream by renting croud and inducing some people in the area to make it look like the anioma people are in support of the already failed project, the ibos should know that state creation has a lot of steps and there are rooms for court cases, we will drag this forceful union till that useless senator is kicked out of the senate for a more sensible person, imagine having to cross the river and drive through anambra state to imo state all in the name of going to your state capital, dear ibos, it will never happen and by the time we are done with this madness with you people, the chance of you having an additional state will be over

haha. Mr president we are sorry

Pierocash:
Enuani is not only ubulu-uku

They are Asaba, Isele Asagba, ibusa, Isele mkpitime, okpanam, ilah, oko, Isele-uku, ogwashi-uku, ebu, Nsukwa, ukala, ugbodo, ubulu-unor, ejeme , ubulu-okiti etc. They are the entire Oshimili North and South, Aniocha North and South, and some parts of Ndokwa

They belong to the cluster igboic language whose ancestry is traceable to Niger--benue , and some Edo/bini cultural influence.

What they speak is Enuani-igboic language, that doesn't make them Igbos. Just because they are closer to Igbos doesn't make them one

It's just same thing we are saying. Is Asaba Ibusa city? Is it Ogwashi uku city? Why attach Enuani if I can't say Igbo city

CSTRR:
Can you give me the name of any public listed company from the south east on the same level with Zenith bank and UBA.?
Those ones are too big.

What of Seplat?
BTW, the SE is more than 10 times the population of the anioma ethnic group.

Browse About Seplat stop arguing blindly

ExplorerReturns:
Stop discussing with the Yoruba kid

I noticed this person has very little knowledge what he is saying but is too confident to be consistent in his falsehood. We need to set records straight.

Pierocash:
Asaba belong to Enuani clan, they are Oshimili not Igbo.

You've heard it countless number of times even from Dr Epiphany Azinge the Asagba of Asaba that they are not Igbos. Stop forcing Identity on everyone

Do mean Ndi Enuani? Like Ubulu ukwu people? Ndi obodo osisi Ubulu?? I don't understand if there is another Enuani. Is it the great Enuani that brought the word ododo into Igbo Izugbe?

Pierocash:
You made it Igbo city. Ndi oshi.

Your Igbo city ends in Onitsha before the River Niger. Asaba has never been a south east city and will never be. Keep your dreams and expectations within Onitsha, asaba and Anioma is not your land. Steer clear. They are busy claiming Lands of other people and forcing Identity on them. Una go wail tire no evidence

By your clannish definition, which city is Asaba? Anioma? What or who is Anioma. Is Asaba Ika city? Is it Ndokwa city? Is It ogwashi uku city? I want to understand?

Galinton:
Who told you asaba is Igbo city?
Abeg stop deceiving yourself. You people of SE always grabbing other people Land.

Then which city is it? Tell me the city it is?

Pierocash:
tell me any South East state more developed than Asaba, okpanam, Ogwashi-uku etc. You guys like fooling yourselves in public.

So even if you feel it isn't developed , does that give you the right to come grab people's land to South East.

Thank God Igbos don't have political power like fulanis. If not, these guys are worse than bandits

I don't think anyone should continue discussing with you on this, because of your lack of knowledge on the said subject. Asaba is a great Igbo city (irrelevant opinions wouldn't change that).
For it to be clear, Asaba isn't amongst the first 4 Igbo cities but it's one among the 8 Igbo cities.
Just like all Igbo cities, There are sub groups of Igbo people who has each city. Examples i.Abakaliki City is mostly on Izzi land.
ii.Aba on Ngwa land.
iii. Owerri on Owerri Land
iv. Enugu on Nkanu land
v. Onitsha metropolis on Onitsha, Oba, Obosi land. Etc.
So you don't have any logical arguments when you talk about grabbing lands.

Wickedtruths:
If the South East needs a new state, let them divide Enugu or Anambra into 2. But no. They want to carry SS land and join it to the SE.

Just like all other states that where created, Anioma will be created for geopolitical balancing. Logically looking at it, Anioma is a very viable state. It has already existing Capital and the population for it.

Flangelo12:
They made the east insecure.

They flocked to Asaba as they cannot live in Onitsha.

Next plan?

Carve Asaba into South East.

Na Deltans I dey blame sha.

Asaba one of the great Igbo Cities. It's renowned for it's nice estates just like Enugu. Onitsha and Asaba are complimentary cities.

Anioma State will be a done deal. We understand the challenges ahead but it's a done deal.

forgiveness:
The guy biggest lie is claiming Aba is developing towards Umuahia. Shuuuuu!!! You can lie.

explain the lies?

The relevant people are on it now. I love our leaders, very intelligent as our fore fathers. I don't care what people say. All that remains is to meet the true kings in Anioma then they vote as well. If it fails then it not our fault but the naivety of Anioma and we go ahead with Adada state. No time

kaltonga:
The people whose story are more believable are the ones that called themselves Anioma..Some of them migrat d from Benin, while some from Igala that is a fact let's not deciev ourselves.
Some migrated from the mainland Igbo, like from present day Anambara and Aro sub groups.

So the entire Anioma cannot be entirely Igbo ancestry, but many are Igbo stocks, for example, history has it that, when the people of Onitsha arrived they met some Igala communities at the bank of the river, while the people of Obosi has the majority of the mainland which the settled .
The people of Oguta in Imo state came from Benin that's a known fact, but due to years of co existence they are IGBOS today, so if the Anioma have lived longer enough with the IGBOS and adopted Igno culture why won't they be IGBOS just like the Onitsha and Oguta people.

The English has such history, the Spanish and Portuguese etc there is no place in modern society that has not had migratory interaction with other tribes in the course of history. The problem with Igbo is Nigeria and it's agenda. I know some people may think I'm cookoo with this assessment but evidence shows otherwise. Look at Anioma state, this state creation should have been treated as a state creation project to make SE 6 states region , but it was tactically turned into tribal effort. With continuous propaganda upon propaganda why it shouldn't happen.
My sentiment is that I truly trust our current Igbo leadership to read in between lines and I have faith in them more than ever.

kaltonga:
The first question you will ask yourself about the Ijweres issue is that, why will a man migrate from Benin kingdom bearing an Igbo name? The man they called Akalaka, was their ancestors according to them, bears an Igbo name, why not Osaro or igbenovia.

Ijweres ancestors migrated from Nkwere present day IMO state just like how Jaja was from Amaigbo in Imo state today, the people of Etche migrated from Ngor Okpala present day IMO state, while some come from the Aro stock..But the point is if the decide to re write their history and say they are not IGBOS that's their business and I have no issues with that.

We all know their history. But the relevant thing here is Ikwere as of today is a big liability for the Igbo in general than asset. We should only encourage pro Igbo among them while ignoring the identity crisis team. Let them sort out themselves, besides Ikwere is not the only Igbo sub group in rivers state.

BondRiv:
Story. Please remain where you are in the South East with your sit-at-home problems. Let people who say they are not Igbos be left alone. It is not by force. Even among yourselves as Igbos, you discriminate.

Lies and lies again. Tell me any major tribe that does have any little banter in the world not only in Nigeria.

South east as she is today is very vibrant both resource wise and economically. We should remember around 2011or so when we had mass aku Ru ulo movement(renewed) and where we are today, then there is no reason why we bring up these topics. We should only be very proud of telling our own narratives.
I'm one of the proudest Igboman alive, hence my sentiments about the region and I can assure you that no one can victimize Igbo again. Before I was all for Igbo togetherness outside south east but my stands have continuously waned for the reason that those Igbos outside SE have less interest for their collective development at heart talk more of Igbo one.
Though I would love to see Anioma state in SE for the long run but I don't really want divisive politics inside south east like what we had amongst leaders live inglorious Umahi, T.A orji and Amadi Ikwuechighi.

Kreesxxx:
If you conduct a referendum today I know that those from Awarra would vote to join Rivers State. So calm down. No true Igbo man would deny being igbo.
An Ikwerre man for instance has never for a day accepted to being Igbo. Other related tribes denying Igbo started recently. For an Ikwerre man it was before, during and after the war. There is no history anywhere of any igbo community connections with any Ikwerre community. None! No history of any igbo connection with the Ikwerres. As a matter of fact what Igbos speak today as general igbo was copied from Ikwerre land. Ajayi Crowder used Ikwerre language and a little of Owerri language to fame to the popular general Igbo.

lies. Ikwere was not the language of choice for the central Igbo. I don't understand your fabrication and misinformation. Mind you I agree with you that ikwere is not Igbo and can never ever be Igbo. Igbo is just too big to associate her self with ikwere

DomPerignon:
Nobody likes you

Me?? you don't know me so how can you say nobody likes me??

DomPerignon:
Then create your own from your region

Really?? of course my prayers is that people outside south east becomes stupid enough to accept that, because it's best option for the region but will be the worst for other regions. Everyone knows that it will offer much better opportunities for the region, but south East leaders are smart enough to know such moves will not fly except if there are rejection like yours.

Christistruth00:
Everyone who tells you truth is a bigot

What are the truths you said?

Christistruth00:
Take it fron Enugu and Anambra

your opinion on where it should be created shows you know little to nothing about South east, and I'm left to believe your opinion on this subject is bore out of bigotry

Christistruth00:
Create it from your SE Region

How? If logic allows it be carved out of the existing south east then it the best of the options. It will fasten the development of the region more. What the region lacks is just representation.