₦airaland Forum

Tinubu is just a funny old man. It's a shame there is no ground for argument or defense for his Administration. One can only wait for bile assault on any criticism against the administration.

helinues:
You see, that noted was a bait for you Obidients as you are just too emotional about politics matter.

So Peter Obi raised some points which might be useful for the development of Nigeria, our own country, were you expecting me to attack him for making this constructive suggestions?

Wouldn't this same suggestions be noted if it was to be from another person apart from Peter Obi?

This is a confirmation of what we have been saying about the Obidients group, Obidients people, you don't welcome others ideas, if not yours then they can go to whatever. How would you win ordinary a spoon with this mentality?

Btw, stop all this years of nagging on my comments. It's for your own health.

Tell me the politics that is not emotional/sentimental

Edygrin:
You have 5 eastern states, they want to carve out another state from there you said no that it must be Anioma that includes part of Delta, the Deltans are saying no but you're saying they must carve it out by force. Ah ah... So Delta oil dey your eye abi?

You think the senate will create another state without the locals accepting it?.. Better fight for your Etiti state and forget Anioma because even Ned Nwoko that started it no fit finish am.

There's a lot that ticks in this case. It's much complex than mere ethnic perspective. It is good that people at the helm brought this up. SE region just like other regions should have six states in spirit of equity. SS, NC,NE and to an extent NW are all multi ethnic regions. There is nothing wrong if similar thing is done to the political entity called SE. With that said, SE stalwarts I believe are doing the underground works with the necessary stack holders. Argument here will not yeild any positive response except contempt.

Thormentor:
SE needs to do more I'm not impressed

11.1M is too much

Effort must be made by the state government, institutions and individuals to reduce this. This should be the main agenda for Ohaneze.

HilcomTech:
You are 100% correct.

cc: Scholes007

I do not get you?? Are you implying that Igbos ruined Jonathan's leadership?

AareGaa:
Ibos ruined Jonathan government. They took advantage of his naivety to infiltrate his govt and messed it up.

What and what was messed up??

Good one

lexylaw09:
PromptnewsonlineMar 8, 2024 7:59 PM
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Trash as usual. What are the proof for these slander. Your intent can Be heard or seen miles away.

HellVictorinho6:
Doesnt make them poorer

Yes I know. I was responding to the downgrading statement from the person I quoted.

Stanleymaster1:
Even America the richest country in the world is not there, Europe indeed is the centre of development. Most of the listed countries are smaller countries in terms of landmass and population. Except Canada. Countries that cannot manage her birth and death rate effectively is very difficult developed.

Funny. U S A has close to 25 million millionaires. But when you compare this number to over 300 million people in the country then you see the reason it's not on the list.

Böllé N600
Rice without #600

AcuraZDX:
Where is your evidence?

Don't argue much with these clowns, most Nairalanders has very low IQ or are dubious. I have lost faith many years ago.

idealogical:
Obi is dumb and foolish, but I don't think he's dumb enough to think the North is falling for this kindergarten gimmick.

Keeping things simple always does the trick. I believe we should try him at least before we condenm

CoronaVirusPro:
Peter just be wasting aviation fuel and polluting the atmosphere.

His carbon footprint on baseless and frivolous quest should be stopped.

he is building bridges. That has been the advice, isn't it?

At least she is going to get a lot of contact soon

Very terrible of him. I hope the police do their best uncovering the extent of his crime network.

Pakute:
My figures are recent and factual, straight up from NBS, INEC and Abia State Civil Service Commission. I don't deal in invalid figures, as old as an outdated 2006 Census as you do. So, i'm not bothered by your empty vituperations.

I'm waiting for you to conduct a new cencus in Nigeria for us to project from. Otherwise we will stick with 2006 projection however flawed.

wiseoneking:
You finished that dounce with statistical data ptooves. He's probably an empty head. Lol

the problem is that many people on social media space have no time to question some of these unsubstantiated claims.

Pakute:
2006 census?, are you joking?. I don't even think any official source uses 2006 census in any statistics. The census was highly political and figures inflated, as a matter of fact, state governors and FG disagreed on the figures which prompted some states conduct their seperate census. 2006 Census was invalid.
INEC data is the closest to census presently.

you are very funny, all official population projection is based on 2006 cencus whether fraudulent or not.

Pakute:
Scholes007, sorry, Abia population is not up to 3million. Latest electoral figures showed Abia with a registered voters of 1.9million and that's about 60% of the population per INEC data.
Also, the GDP metrics would amount to a false HDI since the state is largely driving by mechanised farming.

Based on projection from 2006 census Abia population estimate is about 4.1 voters register is not census.

Pakute:
Yo heard!, Yes, Abia is finished like a ship wreck.
-Abia has a population of 2.4million people

Abia has about 4.1 million people

-Abia is one of the top 5 poorest state in Nigeria

Abia is 18th out 36 by gdp and 9th out 36 by gdp per capital. Meaning Abia is among the first 10 richest states in Nigeria.

-Abia is the dirtiest state in the country

Lagos, Anambra,Abia, Ogun respectively are amongst the dirtiest states in Nigeria because of their industrial and commercial nature so move along

-Abia has the third highest unemployment rate in the country with 50.07%

That's not true as of 2022 akwa Ibom and rivers are 2nd and 3rd Abia is not even in first 10

-Abia has an outstanding debt of over 200billion

As of June 2023 Abia State debt profile stands at about 142billion and is the number 12th debt to gdp ratio is modest

-Abia has a growth rate of -2.1

I yet get a reliable data on that

-Abia has less than 1% FDI

32 out 36 states attracted 0 fdi as of last 2 quarters

-70% of Abians are farmers

False rather Agriculture and Agro related business employs about 70% Abians, 27% commerce and trade 2% manufacturing 1% government. Which is better than virtually every state except about 7 states

-Abia civil servants are estimated at 9,000 staff strength

9000?? funny. But the Governor was accused of sacking more that 10,000 workers employed by December last year. How come??

-Abia has the most decrepit infrastructures in the country

-Abia has the most decayed public schools in the country

-Abia being governed by the most incompetent governor in Nigeria

baseless Argument.

Since 1999, Abia state has been governed from one unfortunate leadership to another, from one corrupt and clueless Governor to another. When you think Abia had had the worst Governor, Alex Otti came in and proves everybody wrong. Alex Otti is currently driving the state down to a grind, he has come to drive Abia state the way he drove Diamond ban

lies my friend lies Nigeria has had terrible leadership since inception all states and regions are affected.

What is the govt doing?? Why is there no media coverage??

Now let's leave the message and attack the messenger. 1,2,3 go

Not bad.

slivertongue:
hmm, I guess he wanted to block the false claim of attending GCL.
Many seems not to consider it as forgery but focus on CSU. false entry qualification nullifies the outcome of such an 'entry'.

That's the point, GCL forgery will authomaticaly places his CSU admission and graduation in doubt.
But I don't care anyway because a failure is always a failure no matter what. You can't buy class or respect.

slivertongue:
attended Government College, Lagos, and presented a 1970 GCE A-level result with grades E in Chemistry and Biology and an F in Physics. The problem is that Government College, Lagos, was established in 1974.

That is called time travel magic. He travelled in time to get the cert even before the school was born.

PaigeTaylor:
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Your story doesn't meet the eye. You said you saw his browser history and you are beyond angry already. It's understandable if you have such vile feelings but hastily coming online with it is beyond me. You are married for 10years my friend, there are other reasonable ways before this. Unless you are merely seeking for a validation to leave him.

MimiSheWrote:
It's because The army 🪖 is usually the oldest,the largest, the most dominant and most powerful branch of any military around the world.

Also the most influencial officers In the military are found in the Army. Other branches of military like the Navy and Air force are automatically below the Army in terms of supremacy and real actual power. The three military branches may appear equal constitutionally, but it's only ceremonial.

Gosh I love the military, rocking that military camouflage officially was my childhood dream. But unfortunately my entire family denied me that dream out of fear and probably also because of my gender. Smh

Yes it's because they are the largest and most dominant in coup prone countries with sizable less educated. Actually the air Force and Navy of countries that matters are the strongest

optionalY09:
I’m not going to deceive you, greed kills anything, no matter how you try to build the East it will not grow except you learn how to accommodate others

As for the highlighted, Time shall tell. One thing I know for sure is that the East is welcoming to all and sundry.

optionalY09:
Who is going to patronize the investments. Trees and red mods.?

Nothing grows in that landlocked dot nation of the most greedy criminals on the planet earth

It takes time and patience. No one said close Lagos business.

You are beyond doubt an ethnic bigot. What you are sewing today might germinate to destroy you or your generation (no offense intended) . If this is you judgement about civilisation then I can unequivocally say you are beneath every civilisation of note

ImperialYoruba:
1. Igbos are Nigerians so they have the right that every Nigerian have.

2. Lagos was former capital of Nigeria and every Nigerian have equal right in it.

3. What are the things in Lagos that you want only Yorubas to enjoy that other tribes shouldn't enjoy?

4. I just want to know these things that an average Yoruba man should enjoy in Lagos that shouldn't be available for other tribes

These questions about status of Lagos, and many similar to it, are very good questions to ask and discuss considering where we are politically, culturally, socially and economically.

I am going to provide my own clarity and help initiate what I hope will be a rich interaction to further educate and put everybody in their place and calm frustrations and anxiety. The answers are outlined structurally to aid understanding, and not aligned with the order the questions above are itemized.

1. Nigeria as a country is diverse in all its aspects of customs, traditions, cultures, ancestry, civilization and organization. These elements of society are the defines around which communities are properly identified. What makes me a Yoruba person is also the quality that denies me identity as an Ibo or Hausa person. My identity is defined to a root and that root is built on customs, traditions, cultures, ancestry, civilization and so on. This is our diversity, it should be cherished. Those who refuse to cherish their root identity are quick to embrace the identity offered them by the Constitution of Nigeria. So what identity has the Constitution offered to anyone?

2. The Nigerian Constitution has never denied its subordinate status to the customary order that pre-existed formation of Nigeria. It speaks of unity because it acknowledges a diversity which exist naturally and possess a tendency to do so independently if left without a legal framework for harmonization.

In other words, Nigerian Constitution is a framework for bringing people together who naturally do not belong together and will not stay peacefully together but have potentials which if tied in a partnership of harmony could lead to evolution of a better society overall.

Let me repeat this one more time. Nigerian Constitution is not a divine order. It is a document intended to hold together a partnership for progressive and better society that profits all groups.

Nigerian Constitution therefore creates avenues for Yoruba living in Iboland or Hausaland to harmonise with the customs and traditions of that foreign land so he can profit from them, and he does not conduct himself in ways which bring disharmony to the Ibos or Hausas on their indigeneous land. If this is achieved the harmonious state results in better society. This is similar for Hausaman living in Ibo or Yorubaland. It is also compelling on Iboman living in Hausaland or Yorubaland to do so in harmony with the land.

When this harmony is broken or thrown off balance then the Constitution is breached and a means of intervention must be applied to restore harmony using the privileged divine order. When the disharmony is multiplied in the frequency at which it occurs, or the sources from which it is acted, then a general state of diminished returns in profitability, resourcefulness and animosity will develop that pushes more and more into the risk areas that the Constitution was formulated to prevent, i.e. a tendency for the diverse peoples to exist independently and uncooperative...or at extreme points to attack one another.

We are currently in that risk zone. The predominance of our interaction across our diverse identities and at every strata of society, up from traditional rulers, political leaders, corporate leaders, down to the street beggar, has been that of antagonism and in each other's throat. The steam is bottled in and under intense pressure, one way or the other it must explode. To prevent an explosion an intervention is needed to vent the steam under a supervised arrangement.

What is the root cause of the disharmony?

3. History of ancestry and privileged civilization. Part of the diversity in Nigeria takes root in historical civilization and urban evolution. The ethnic groups of Nigeria do not have relatable history, we developed each in different dimensions and pace. At the top of the food chain of civilization is Yoruba. From here it rolls down with different groups gaining civilization and urbanism centuries later.

If we are looking to pick five top early civilized groups, and those who in turn civilized others it will be Yoruba, Benin, Kanuri, Hausa, Nupe in that order. These were pre colonial and pre Nigeria civilizations.

There is a secondary and modern civilization that occurred in time of colonial intervention. This is with Western ideology substituting itself in place of ancestral civilization and philosophies. In this secondary wave is where we find Ibo and a host of other minority groups.

The majority groups in Nigeria ought to have aligned with historical majority but Britain used vendetta against Benin to elevate Ibo above Benin kingdom, thus Ibo was accorded majority political status alongside Yoruba in West and Hausa in North. To update Ibo and give it equal footing for administrative authority under indirect rule, the colonists appointed administrators to be king over their territories. A people of deficient civilization have now been upgraded and treated as equal with societies that have maintained centuries of civilized evolution, many elements of which even surpass that credited to Roman Empire. Ibo was still a slave class when the powers of Benin Kingdom was at its peak. But now the Kingdom is made subservient to the slave. Britain stole not only the treasures of Benin, they also looted its history and status.

The modernity of Ibo upgrade is the root cause of disharmony in Nigeria today.

The power to manage their own development is poor, and so they are found wanting and devoid of skills and prowess to exercise the responsibilities of a majority and politically relevant society across the Nigerian terrain. Consequently, their inability to exercise leadership has resulted in clashes and despise across all regions and brought disharmony and flagrant violations of the code of civilized living. To mask their extreme deficiency they hide under the provisions of Constitution and pretend to be civilized and deserving of civilized treatment on foreign lands.

4. Lagos was a former capital of Nigeria and no one group owns it. There is nowhere in the Constitution of Nigeria where Lagos is defined as former capital of Nigeria. Lagos is defined as a State, like Sokoto, Abia, Bayelsa, Kogi. No more no less. It is hearsay to keep throwing that label out while defending yourself as eligible for Constitutional protection in Lagos. The Constitution you hide under has not told you that Lagos was a former capital...but it tells you Lagos is a State. Therefore accept Lagos as defined in Constitution, a State!

Do Ibo have rights in Lagos? Yes, they do. They have rights and obligations. It is their obligation to live in harmony with other people in Lagos so everybody can enjoy a cooperative relationship and profit overall. Of all Nigerians living in Lagos, Ibo stand out as the least willing to promote harmony. At every opportunity Ibo is antagonizing and belligerent. Again to return to constitution, only the indigenes with ancestral roots of any place have "privileged" rights on their land. All others have freedom to live on the land with conditions. Constitution of Nigeria has never given anyone absolute right. The constitution gives relative rights.

In order words, it recognizes that conditions are not uniform as you go from one section of Nigeria to another. Therefore what is obtainable in East is not so in West. There are conditions and aspects of social norms which are standard and a default in West, but is foreign and strange in East. When an Easterner is present in West he is allowed to also live and enjoy in these peculiarities of social life in West RELATIVE TO building a better and more progressive and evolving society.

The constitution is thus paraphrased "We so so so people, IN ORDER TO BUILD A BETTER SOCIETY hereby commit ourselves...blah blah blah.....

If your living in West denies the rights of others for progressive existence, the constitution gives them a supreme right over you, and limits your privilege while you are physically present in West.

The indigenes of Lagos share a civilization that is common and binding with other Yoruba Kingdom-States. This is ancestral. This ancestry is exclusive. Therefore a Yoruba in Lagos, whether indigene of Lagos or indigene of Offa or Jebba or Lokoja by order of divine ancestral lineage are authorized by the constitution to exercise privileged living anywhere in Yorubaland. Similar authority exist for Emirates. The Emirate of Sokoto, Kano, Adamawa, Zaria, and much as this is not palatable...Ilorin included, have ancestry that are not same as Yoruba. They are who they are, and have exercise of privileged authority in their domains as far it stretches. Ibo kings have their own domain of authority and includes privileges that Hausa or Yoruba in Iboland cannot contest by virtue of Constitution.

So why do others understand this relationship and conform to upholding it but Ibo on other hand continues to pride itself as a spoiler of the Nigerian unity and harmony?

Leaders of the Nigerian nation need to truly review the question of "Ibo amongst us" and put it to rest. We need harmony in Nigeria, and Ibo has shown tome and again on numerous instances of nationhood that it is unwilling to coexist in harmony with anyone. Then divest them out of Nigeria so their burden does not stop generality of Nigerians from progressing and profiting from our partnering.

Contribute inputs.

It's a shame someone as verbose as you could stoop this low. You talk a lot with little substance.
1. How many constitutions do Nigeria have?
2. Which city was the former capital of Nigeria?
Then by your augment
●Lagos is State hence should make laws to protect its citizens even when it breaches Nigeria Constitution?
● At same time according to you constitution is the binding and harmonious force holding the entity Nigeria.
Pls tell me how do you reconcile this??