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SIRTee15:
Since atheists reject God and His divine guidance, as well as revelation, I would like them to tell us the source of their morality.

What guides your conscience when it comes to good and evil? Is your moral framework subjective or objective? What is the foundational basis of your morality? How do you determine what is right or wrong? Is your morality dynamic and relative to time, location, and circumstances?

As a believer in the scriptures, my morality comes from the bible. If the Bible says an act is wrong, then it is wrong irrespective of external opinion or societal validation of such an act.

To the atheist, if you think a behaviour is immoral but society considers it good, how do you justify your stance? What makes you think your judgment is better than that of the majority?

How do you even know what is good or bad as a principle? For example, do you think fornication or homosexuality is evil? Do you think transgender identity should be considered moral? Do you think pride and lying are things that should be frowned upon? What even makes suicide or euthanasia wrong?

Atheists, do you think it is okay to indoctrinate your children with your morality, or should they be left alone to discover their own?
If your 16-year-old daughter starts taking contraceptive pills so she can have sex with her boyfriend, would you frown at it? On what grounds would you consider her behaviour immoral?

If your 21-year-old son tells you he is gay and wants to marry his partner, will you wish them marital bliss or attend their wedding if invited? If you object to such a union, where is that morality coming from?

If your 18-year-old son tells you he is transitioning to become a woman and plans to undergo surgery, on what grounds would you tell him he is wrong?

Why would it be wrong if your 25-year-old daughter tells you she does not plan to get married but intends to have children with different men and raise them without a father figure?

I am certain many atheists would struggle with some of these situations. No atheist here on nairaland will attend the wedding of his gay son or celebrate extramarital pregnancy of his daughter.

The truth some atheists conveniently ignore is that all moral frameworks in society have historically been influenced by religious traditions. People draw from these values in how they live their lives, build families, and relate to their communities.

Yet, some reject the existence of God while still engaging with moral ideas that have been shaped by religious thought.

This is something I reflected on years ago, and it led me to question whether atheism provides a sufficiently grounded explanation for morality or its simply delusion in disguise.

I would appreciate if atheist can give a convincing rebuttal as to the source of their morality independent of an imaginary sky daddy as they say.

"As a believer in the scriptures, my morality comes from the bible. If the Bible says an act is wrong, then it is wrong irrespective of external opinion or societal validation of such an act.

To the atheist, if you think a behaviour is immoral but society considers it good, how do you justify your stance? What makes you think your judgment is better than that of the majority?"

Consequences. You look at the effects, especially long term, that it would have.

tosine90:
How can a sane person be an atheist in the first place untill they can answer this question. They should re examine their stands.

Can a art exist without an artist
Can a movie exist without a producer
Can a bread exist without a baker
Can food exist without a cook or chef
Can a phone exist without a maker
Can a song exist without a musician
Can a car exit without the manufacturer

Then how can you accept humans exist without a maker
And the world exists without the Creator
Can a footprint exist on a beach without someone who make it.
The fact that we can see God doesn't mean it doesn't exist or an imagination of man.

No wonder the Bible says a fool says in his heart there is no God

Think 🤔

Firstly, let's define terms so that we may better understand ourselves.

An atheist is a person who doesn't believe in the existence of God/gods.
Existence is to be alive/present.

Now that we defined our key terms, let me answer your question. I will pick one example, because they're basically the same.

You asked, "Can a car existed without the manufacturer?". I say Yes, it can. It happens when manufacturer is dead.

Atheists, like religionists, knows that for there to a creature, there must be a creator. Where they differ is in the creator.

Religionists call theirs God and gave it the tri-ominis characters. Atheist looked at them and compared it with the Nature of life and saw absurdites/inconsistencies.

Therefore, they reasoned that such a God is not worthy of honour. So they theorised that it must something else that's responsible. They call it the Big Bang and from it came all creatures/phenomena.

Now, if you ask about the "striker" of the bang, they would ask the same about your God. Do you know? I guess not. Neither do they. At a point, you have to accept that there's no perfect explanation.

#A fool says in his heart that there is no God. Maybe he right. It's possible that there was a God. But with what's revealed about him in Abrahamic religion and the evils happening in the world which he largely caused, it's reasonable to say that he is dead. Because a father that isn't truly willing to help is dead.

Dying at old is not always a blessing; I believe some people live long to suffer the consequences of their actions. And yes, the rich also suffers. Wealth don't end suffering; at best, it reduces it.

Also, being a number citizen/achieving the highest rank in a field is not always a blessing. Sometimes life allows you to get to the top so that you may appreciate the effort of those before you or to understand the futility of all your works, and therefore become humble.

The way I stopped mine was that I over-thought until I got tired of overthinking. Not joking.

I then used Naval's Non-judgemental Meditation to smoothen things.

An American? This means Trumps' AI Pope picture wasn't all a joke.
#Congrats to him.

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Looking4Trouble:
Mike Ezekhome represents only treasury looters in Court or outside. What a useless bastard!

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$3.7M is about ₦5.7B (@ $1 to ₦1540)

This means MarkAngel is a naira billionaire yet he's not in the top 100 richest in Nigeria.

#That money is likely what he was expecting to win, not the amount he invested.
#Make him show receipt or this one na cruise talk to trend.

EmperorCaesar:
Who cares about what you'd do or not do?

By the year 2170, No one would care about you anymore. You dont matter at all.

The biggest mistakes humans make is overestimating their worth/overrating themselves

Einstein, Tesla and Hawkings are gone, Our world moved on like its never seen them before. Bigger people and inventions came after them too

Rest abeg.

They're gone, but their impacts would echo forever. That's the point.

TheDemola:
People won't see this to praise the church o, but if to say na negative news, it would have spread faster than this. God bless His church

Good of RCCG.
But be reminded that even the Devil does good sometimes yet Christians don't see him as good. Why? Because what he takes is bigger than what he gives.

iLegendd:
To those asking about Naira gaining or losing value recently, this explains it. Interesting to watch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVh6o6K7xEw?si=pZb9ba4yNiIA2Bu6

Thanks for sharing.

For Adeboye, it would have been ₦10,000 if not for God's intervention. For Okupe, it could have hit ₦17,000 if not for Tinubu's reforms.

The above implies that Tinubu's reforms is better than God's intervention

#Obviously, these are sycophantic statements.

APC govt made me to realise that, largely, we aren't ready to make the country better; most of the displeasures we express are just for "show".

You have tried your best, and while it didn't produce the expected result, it made some of us to see the true nature of our country.

#These days, I don't rate anybody; a person's possessions and titles mean nothing to me. I treat all as human to human. Because I have come to realise that hypocrisy is the rule.

Cashout for prison ogas loading...

#Until the same or similar law is passed on corrupt politicians, this is largely a joke.

TemporaryHansel:
What kind of stories?

It's normal to do it only when you're satisfied you don't plan on having any more kids.

Or dying childless.

MajorOvakporaye:
There are many things we neglect in Nigeria. The man could be suffering from dementia caused by old age, but because many Nigerians claim to be too religious more than the people who exposed them to these same religions, they will insult you when you tell them the truth.

No. He is not suffering from dementia; he has always been twofaced. You just didn't observe him, closely.

About 40 yrs ago, he said No Tithe No Heaven. Last month or so, he apologised for that unbiblical statement. However, it's false apology.

In the video, he said, amongst others, that tithing should be "valuently", that's, people who earn more should be paying more in percentages 20%, 30%, etc. This is inspite of the fact that at the biblical 10%, those who earn more already pay more.

ednut1:
Old age is surely affecting this man. A shame

If you believe it's old age, the shame is on you for not being able to know a lie with all your experiences and education.

simpleseyi:
I think dementia is setting in

No. It's deliberate.

Listen carefully and comparatively to his No Tithe No Heaven apology video and you would understand that he knows exactly what he's doing.

helinues:

Even you no like the lie?
#Lol... Adeboye don over do!

IrepChrist:
It is only those that loves God and want to sincerely see his ministry move forward that will see nothing wrong with tithing.. You are not required to pay tithe under the doctrine of grace, yes it was a law. But Christ encouraged that we continue to pay tithe but we must be obedient to God's will and expectations for our lives.

I WILL CONTINUE TO PAY MY TITHE BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE CHRIST GOSPEL PROPELED BY MY GIVINGS.

Quote where Christ encouraged that in the Bible.

TenQ:
I love this testimony: satan wanted to cut his future glory short

For the first few years of his life, Adebayor’s parents were troubled by his inability to walk, despite being otherwise healthy.

Still only crawling when he was five, his family found their way to spiritual leaders in neighbouring Ghana, who insisted the problem could be fixed through intense prayer.

One Sunday, a football from a nearby game bounced into the church where pastors were praying over the young Adebayor.

"As soon as I saw the ball, I started running to it," he said.

"It was a moment of deliverance, with everybody shouting 'He's walking, he's walking!'. Everybody was so happy and whenever my mother told that story, she always cried."

An indelible relationship with the sport had begun.


I hope Emmanuel Adebayor knows the Lord Jesus at a personal level.

What if it's the Lord's (God's) plan? Or don't you know, from reading Samson's story, for example, He could have well engineered it?
#Study your Bible.

Solofresh2:
The two things that makes me sad about life whenever I think about it is losing a loved one and a loved one losing me to death😥

Even if we pray to live very long can we really move on from living to see some of our loved ones die.

When I think about death, it makes me feel sad and heartbroken.

Feel relieved, for to be alive is to suffer. And this is as it's for man and God. For we, death is the end of that suffering; for God immortality is his consolation.

helinues:
Don't some of you take a break from this politics of bitterness?

Only a fool is happy while his house is burning.

Nnamdipapa:
Sometimes it is hard to blame these people as it is the kind of environment prevalent in Nigeria. Over 95% of the average Nigerian borrow with intentions not to repay and these people are into business to make money.

I honestly do not blame these loan companies as they have to resort to whatever means to stay in business.

No. Blame the loan company.

Defaulting, like death, is a certainty. Hence there's usually loan agreement that clearly states what would happen in such a situation, and it never always say defaulter/quarrantor should be sent such a defaming message. Instead, at worst, they're to involve the court (however little the money as the defaulter would pay for the stress/expenses).

Sir, while you're serving, Nigeria got worse so the stigma on your crime is little to nothing, especially as you would likely join APC— a party suited to your kind.

Thundafireseun:
So 10 percent is not enough for this adult boy anymore…..

Inside this hardship you still encourage your Olodo’s to give you all their salary in January….

I’m sure your fada will come online to apologize on your behalf….

That’s the reason I’m not sending THUNDER TO FIRE YOU 🔥

Send the THUNDER ooh... Because his father's apology, if any, would likely be false.

On the tithe apology video, which I recommend you should rewatch meditatively, he (Adeboye) said tithing should be "valuently". That's, it shouldn't be limited to the 10%; you should pay more percentages the more you earn.

Yet, even with the 10%, people who earn more already pay more. For example, 10% of ₦10,000 (₦1,000) is not the same as that of ₦20,000 (₦2,000). This is already "valuently", but Baba says it's not enough; he wants the percentage increased!

Nice one, Italy.

Gay/lesbian with kid is like having certificate without going to school.

He didn't say anything different from VDM

oluseyiforjesus:
Only God can not lie

Read your Bible, properly.