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Travel / Re: Lawmaker, Abdullahi Aliyu Ahmed Threatens Legal Action Against Air Peace by KosiGee(m): 6:28am On Apr 01
proeast:
When foreign airlines or those owned by fellow northerners are involved in flight delays or similar disruptions, do these scumbags threaten them with lawsuits?

I don’t blame them, I blame Airpeace that went to a route that isn’t even lucrative.

Nonsense and ingredients!

Stop this nonsense bro. You are hugely biased because AirPeace CEO is an Igbo man. AirPeace should be called out when they err.
This man paid for a business class but the airline downgraded it to economy without notifying him and without any compensation. If what he said up there is the truth then I’m sorry but I perceive this as fraud and malpractice.

AirPeace has a lot to do. There have been occasions when they dealt poorly with customer complaints. Their HR department need to do better.

Complaints are meant to help companies and organisations improve performance. You and those other posters saying that this man should patronise airlines from northerners are immature and silly.

I have lost money to AirPeace in the past, I have been treated poorly by the same company and attempts to reach them and resolve a complaint and poor treatment were not successful. This was 2021. I have also tried to board their plane from Enugu to Abuja and certain disturbing noise from the plane, poor ventilation and attempts by their engineers to start the plane discouraged me and many other people to continue the journey. I asked for refund and this time I was made to fill some document, provide email address…part of my money was refunded after some months.

I pray for this man and his airline to be very successful but they need to show some bad eggs in the organisation the door.

Onyema and his AirPeace management should lead and be an example on how to run and manage an airline business.

If you are Igbo like many of us, you shouldn’t be myopic and bigoted when a customer complains. Not everything should be viewed from the ethnic prism like the fool that was complaining about the crew wearing isiagu.

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Travel / Re: Some Yorubas Were Shocked To See Air Peace Management After Attack On Isi Agu by delpee(f): 10:06pm On Mar 31
What's wrong with Isi Agu? It's a Nigerian outfit on a plane owned by a Nigerian. Must they wear foreign suits? I don't understand the need to criticise this.

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Travel / Re: Some Yorubas Were Shocked To See Air Peace Management After Attack On Isi Agu by paramakina202: 9:23pm On Mar 31
dododawa1:
It should be White and Green

Uniform


.why


Is Agu?

Is it Nigeria national airline?
Btw I know airpeace air hostess will wear difference Nigeria cultural dresses they just started with Igbo but bigots want to have heart attack over it like say na una buy plane for him.

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Travel / Re: Airfares Drop As Foreign Carriers Unblock Low-priced Tickets by NovusHomo(m): 4:06pm On Mar 31
GOFRONT:
Hmmmm......Igbo Amaka!!!!

Allen Onyema is an enigma......

A new dawn is Allen Onyema



Where is AA Rano Air, Azaman Air??......We are talking London and you are there talking Bauchi...

Allen pave the way, others follow


One rented (wet lease) plane. Onyeama dey play you. And you come dey play yourself join put. grin

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Travel / Re: Moment Air Peace Inaugural Lagos-london Flight Landed In Gatwick Airport London by SUPERPACK: 9:00am On Mar 31
highchief1:
misunderstood again.when did I say I’m richer than anyone.why can’t I have my choices sir.There are airlines I can’t fly internationally.Did u not go to school to understand that simple statement.That I cannot do it did not imply others can’t.make una see me see trouble o.why do they have airline options.abi na only one plane Dey go Uk?bros Abeg happy Easter.
Happy Easter comes with money for chicken.
Travel / Re: Moment Air Peace Inaugural Lagos-london Flight Landed In Gatwick Airport London by highchief1: 8:22am On Mar 31
SUPERPACK:
Obi Cubana I hail o. You must be richer than everyone on that flight. When are you going to start your own airline and give us same services as Qatar airways. All competitors are welcome.
misunderstood again.when did I say I’m richer than anyone.why can’t I have my choices sir.There are airlines I can’t fly internationally.Did u not go to school to understand that simple statement.That I cannot do it did not imply others can’t.make una see me see trouble o.why do they have airline options.abi na only one plane Dey go Uk?bros Abeg happy Easter.
Travel / Re: Moment Air Peace Inaugural Lagos-london Flight Landed In Gatwick Airport London by SUPERPACK: 8:15am On Mar 31
highchief1:
how is this dumbass again.in your last statement you now fell to my side.I don’t look at cost when I want to do certain things.im currently building a hotel.I went to buy pop cement they told me abs is 15k per bag.White gips and some others are 9k.i went for abs.All those guys u saw in that innuagural flight will not fly that plane again if they are going to the Uk.Some ppl are no longer in the level wherr they calculate the difference in price.they go for the best.do you know what it means to be on air for hours?why do u think people do business class instead of economy.How can u suffer to make money and still be managing to spend it.my brother I sleep in the best hotels eat the best foods fork the best girls.nthg Dey this life.if u can have 200m and be flying cheap flights good luck to u.
Obi Cubana I hail o. You must be richer than everyone on that flight. When are you going to start your own airline and give us same services as Qatar airways. All competitors are welcome.
Travel / Re: Moment Air Peace Inaugural Lagos-london Flight Landed In Gatwick Airport London by highchief1: 6:08am On Mar 31
LOVEALAIGBO:


Dumdass analysis! How can you compare Air Peace with the national airline of Qatar!? If all travellers reason like you then the inaugural Air Peace flight would be empty while Qatar flights from Lagos would be fully booked!

At this point, travellers are now looking for the safe but cheaper option. Let gov’t employees, who don’t have to worry about saving on the cost of their airline tickets, and those with more money than sense continue patronising Qatar Airways!
how is this dumbass again.in your last statement you now fell to my side.I don’t look at cost when I want to do certain things.im currently building a hotel.I went to buy pop cement they told me abs is 15k per bag.White gips and some others are 9k.i went for abs.All those guys u saw in that innuagural flight will not fly that plane again if they are going to the Uk.Some ppl are no longer in the level wherr they calculate the difference in price.they go for the best.do you know what it means to be on air for hours?why do u think people do business class instead of economy.How can u suffer to make money and still be managing to spend it.my brother I sleep in the best hotels eat the best foods fork the best girls.nthg Dey this life.if u can have 200m and be flying cheap flights good luck to u.

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Travel / Re: Moment Air Peace Inaugural Lagos-london Flight Landed In Gatwick Airport London by ozoneymcm: 12:51am On Mar 31
vowiski:
Cheap interior
is there anything wrong with a plane having cheap interior?

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Travel / Re: Airpeace Begins Direct Flights To London, UK (Pictures) by highchief1: 10:34am On Mar 30
ubox:

You know all the flight Wigwe did in Nigeria, none crashed. Na for the abroad where everyone think is safe that it occurred.
bros no be plane kill am.chopper no be wetin person Dey enter.i get ur point sha
Travel / Re: Airpeace Begins Direct Flights To London, UK (Pictures) by highchief1: 7:25am On Mar 30
Eriokanmi:
Lol. Did wigwe die inside airpeace plane? I feel your concerns too but we need to start patronising our own. Concord was owned by mko and it did well in its time. Those leading airlines too don record crash before and nobody ever envisaged it before it happened. They were brand new planes. Just pray for safe travels always. Its only Nigerian air I can't fly, if eventually flagged off except its fully privatised. I don't trust all those terrorists in Government.
wigwe go Dey fly chopper I’ll rather treck than enter a chopper.i have had more than 1m opportunities to enter chopper I no gree.just like me entering water wether pool or sea or river I don’t.Ur last stamens vindicates me.theres no where a Nigerian will not cut corners.My highest journey with airpeace will be Abuja to Lagos.i am not afraid to die but I hate to die carelessly.
Travel / Re: Airpeace Begins Direct Flights To London, UK (Pictures) by Eriokanmi: 7:17am On Mar 30
highchief1:
nice but I can’t fly Airpeace internationally sha.i no like wetin happen to wigwe.I don’t even fly Ethiopia and Rwanda or Egypt air.If it’s not Qatar airline or emirate I no Dey go.
Lol. Did wigwe die inside airpeace plane? I feel your concerns too but we need to start patronising our own. Concord was owned by mko and it did well in its time. Those leading airlines too don record crash before and nobody ever envisaged it before it happened. They were brand new planes. Just pray for safe travels always. Its only Nigerian air I can't fly, if eventually flagged off except its fully privatised. I don't trust all those terrorists in Government.

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Travel / Re: Protesters Disrupt Flights At Port Harcourt International Airport (photo) by Zetty177x: 1:16pm On Mar 27
Asonaijaaso:
LETS SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES TO HEAR KEYAMO'S VOICE THIS TIME.

ANOTHER SLEEPING MINISTER.

AIRPORT SHOULD BE DESIGNATED FEDERAL BUILDINGS, ANYONE MISBEHAVING INSIDE AN AIRPORT SHOULD BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY.

AIRPORTS SHOULD BE 100% OFF LIMITS TO ANY KIND OF PROTEST. (SET A 2 MILE RADIUS)

WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF NEAR MISSES, EVEN THE OBEDIENT GUY INSIDE THE plane.

ITS TIME FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO SET A FEW EXAMPLES SO PEOPLE KNOW, YOU DONT MESS AROUND IN THE AIRPORT.

DRUGS,ARMS,PROTESTS SHOULD ALL CARRY STIFF FEDERAL PENALTIES.

WE DONT HAVE TO WAIT FOR A DISASTER TO PUT IN PLACE MEASURES TO GUARD AGAINST IT.

Why? Airport na heaven? 👀👀 For ur mind ,u don yarn abi?
Travel / Re: Protesters Disrupt Flights At Port Harcourt International Airport (photo) by Asonaijaaso: 12:35pm On Mar 27
LETS SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES TO HEAR KEYAMO'S VOICE THIS TIME.

ANOTHER SLEEPING MINISTER.

AIRPORT SHOULD BE DESIGNATED FEDERAL BUILDINGS, ANYONE MISBEHAVING INSIDE AN AIRPORT SHOULD BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY.

AIRPORTS SHOULD BE 100% OFF LIMITS TO ANY KIND OF PROTEST. (SET A 2 MILE RADIUS)

WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF NEAR MISSES, EVEN THE OBEDIENT GUY INSIDE THE plane.

ITS TIME FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO SET A FEW EXAMPLES SO PEOPLE KNOW, YOU DONT MESS AROUND IN THE AIRPORT.

DRUGS,ARMS,PROTESTS SHOULD ALL CARRY STIFF FEDERAL PENALTIES.

WE DONT HAVE TO WAIT FOR A DISASTER TO PUT IN PLACE MEASURES TO GUARD AGAINST IT.

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Travel / Re: Pelumi Nubi Involved In Accident While Driving By Road From London To Lagos by ukaface(f): 10:52pm On Mar 26
wtf!
wtf!
Damn!!!!
Why she no kuku use plane ehn!?
Which kain adventure be this bayi ehn??
Chai
Travel / Re: Pelumi Nubi Involved In Accident While Driving By Road From London To Lagos by BscHolder: 3:35pm On Mar 26
seborrhic:

There is a land route to travel through all countries,just that it can be tortures,that's why the plane was invented,not that you can only travel to some countries via plane.
Imagine spending 2 weeks or even a month to reach some countries via car with the breakdowns and hazards that come with it,rather than just 12hours in the air
no land route bro.. Africa ends and is surrounded by the Mediterranean and the Atlantic
Travel / Re: Pelumi Nubi Involved In Accident While Driving By Road From London To Lagos by UnknownQueen(f): 2:25pm On Mar 26
seborrhic:

There is a land route to travel through all countries,just that it can be tortures,that's why the plane was invented,not that you can only travel to some countries via plane.
Imagine spending 2 weeks or even a month to reach some countries via car with the breakdowns and hazards that come with it,rather than just 12hours in the air

Oh ....I seee shocked shocked
Travel / Re: Pelumi Nubi Involved In Accident While Driving By Road From London To Lagos by kendrick9(m): 2:22pm On Mar 26
seborrhic:

There is a land route to travel through all countries,just that it can be tortures,that's why the plane was invented,not that you can only travel to some countries via plane.
Imagine spending 2 weeks or even a month to reach some countries via car with the breakdowns and hazards that come with it,rather than just 12hours in the air
Hope you know she took a ferry to cross the sea between Morroco and Spain?

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Travel / Re: Pelumi Nubi Involved In Accident While Driving By Road From London To Lagos by seborrhic: 2:18pm On Mar 26
UnknownQueen:
Is it possible to drive from London to Lagos?
There is a land route to travel through all countries,just that it can be tortous,that's why the plane was invented,not that you can only travel to some countries via plane.
Imagine spending 2 weeks or even a month to reach some countries via car with the breakdowns and hazards that come with it,rather than just 12hours in the air

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Travel / Re: The 10 Greatest Commercial Passenger Aircrafts( Planes) Of All Time by cardoctor(m): 7:58am On Mar 26
Its the Boeing 747 for me. First plane ive ever been on that has two floors and a staircase.
Travel / Re: The 10 Greatest Commercial Passenger Aircrafts( Planes) Of All Time by Hndrrxxx(m): 7:03am On Mar 26
DARLINGTON869:


Whaaaat! Why should it be removed. Concorde was the cream de la cream of all commercial planes. No commercial plane till date drew attention and awe from the public like the Concorde did....not even Airbus or Boeing max.

* The only plane that required two nations (FRANCE and GREAT BRITAIN) uniting their resources and technological prowess to build it.

*) The only commercial plane that could fly at the speed of sound.

*) The only commercial plane capable of taking you from Heathrow airport London to JFK airport USA within 3 hour

*) The only commercial plane capable of flying at an altitude no other commercial plane till date could ever fly.

*) The only plane whose Sonic boom was capable of triggering car alarms

The list goes on and on. Nothing beats the Concorde when it came to commercial aviation. Unfortunately, Tinubu administration happened to it grin
oga it’s the most ugly please

Cancelled everything else
Travel / Re: The 10 Greatest Commercial Passenger Aircrafts( Planes) Of All Time by theowane: 5:57am On Mar 26
Very educative thread.
For me, I think the B737 is still the greatest ever built yet. Even in the Nigerian airspace, it still remains the highest in operations, majority of the airlines have it in their fleet, very reliable aircraft, though most of them are over 22 years old.
Infact, the NAF 001, the number one official Presidential plane in Nigeria is a B737 BBJ, bought by then President Obasanjo during his 1st tenure as President.
One of its major negatives is that it isn't a Long range aircraft
Travel / Re: The 10 Greatest Commercial Passenger Aircrafts( Planes) Of All Time by DARLINGTON869(m): 8:57pm On Mar 25
Racoon:
Of course in respect to non-after burners passenger aircrafts beside the Concorde, the Boeing 747 jumbo jet remains the undisputable queen of the skies

Bro, no commercial plane till date bests the Concorde. The Concorde was literally in a league of its own.
Travel / Re: The 10 Greatest Commercial Passenger Aircrafts( Planes) Of All Time by DARLINGTON869(m): 8:54pm On Mar 25
DaddyYankee:
Please remove CONCORDE feom that list

Whaaaat! Why should it be removed. Concorde was the cream de la cream of all commercial planes. No commercial plane till date drew attention and awe from the public like the Concorde did....not even Airbus or Boeing max.

* The only plane that required two nations (FRANCE and GREAT BRITAIN) uniting their resources and technological prowess to build it.

*) The only commercial plane that could fly at the speed of sound.

*) The only commercial plane capable of taking you from Heathrow airport London to JFK airport USA within 3 hour

*) The only commercial plane capable of flying at an altitude no other commercial plane till date could ever fly.

*) The only plane whose Sonic boom was capable of triggering car alarms

The list goes on and on. Nothing beats the Concorde when it came to commercial aviation. Unfortunately, Tinubu administration happened to it grin

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Travel / Re: The 10 Greatest Commercial Passenger Aircrafts( Planes) Of All Time by Konquest: 8:18pm On Mar 25
Racoon:

NUMBER - 8: DC-10
MANUFACTURER: McDonnell Douglas
COMMERCIAL SERVICE: 1971-2014
NUMBER BUILT: 386
MAX PASSENGERS: 399

The Nuts and Bolts
Life was not always easy for this workhorse of the American skies. Conceived as the successor to the similarly sturdy DC-8 – with which the Missouri-based aviation firm had entered the jetliner race at the end of the 1950s – the DC-10’s first years were blighted by safety issues.

But its reliability improved hugely as the years passed; it was only taken out of passenger service a decade ago. It retains an iconic status in retirement, partly due to the unusual placement of the third of its three engines; not beneath the wings, but above the main fuselage, at the bottom of the tail-fin.

Finest moment:
Its recovery from this tragedy. An understandable loss of confidence saw orders for the DC-10 slump in the early 1980s, but after modifications, it became one of America’s most trusted aircraft. It out-lived its parent company (McDonnell Douglas merged with Boeing in 1997), and was still part of the Biman Bangladesh Airlines fleet 10 years ago (its last scheduled passenger flight was on February 20 2014).

When Northwest Airlines put its final DC-10 to bed on January 8 2007, pilot Wade Blaufuss offered a tribute. “The DC-10 is a reliable airplane, fun to fly, roomy and quiet, kind of like flying an old Cadillac Fleetwood,” he explained. “We’re sad to see an old friend go.”

Darkest Hour
The loss of American Airlines Flight 191 on May 25 1979, when a DC-10’s left-wing engine detached during take-off from Chicago’s O’Hare International – leading to a crash less than a mile beyond the runway, with a total loss of life (258 passengers and 13 crew, plus two unfortunate bystanders on the
). Photos of the last moments show the stricken plane flying on its side, the pilots struggling for control. Over 40 years later, the 273 fatalities still rank as the worst air disaster on American soil.

Where Can I See One?
Next to a Concorde at Manchester Airport’s Runway Visitor Park (see manchesterairport.co.uk). And, brilliantly, reconstituted as the centrepiece of the Gate 88 nightclub – on the Indonesian party island of Bali (instagram.com/gate88langit). .........


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/greatest-passenger-aircraft-of-all-time/
An awesome thread... It brings back memories of my flights onboard the DC-10, Fokker-28 Fellowship, Boeing 737, and Airbus A310 planes from the late 1970s to the 1980s and beyond on International flights and within Nigeria. Those were truly iconic planes.

British Caledonian and Pan Am (Pan American World Airways) regularly flew into Nigeria on the Gatwick Airport to Lagos route and Pan Am flew from NY to Lagos back in the early to late 1980s.

The DC-10, Boeing 707, and Boeing 747 planes belonging to British Caledonian flew into Nigeria weekly with Nigerian and foreign nationals flying in regularly for business and holidays to and from London. Life was easy peazy to a great degree.

I wish I could get a chance to fly on a supersonic Concorde plane. That's my only regret... Not flying onboard that plane till the time of the horrendous and fiery Paris aircrash in the early 2000s that led to a grounding of all British and French Concord planes.

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Travel / Re: The 10 Greatest Commercial Passenger Aircrafts( Planes) Of All Time by Ykc2(m): 8:17pm On Mar 25
What of the plane built by most sophisticated tribe on this earth meanwhile we are sharing generator republic with them ,maybe they built it in balablue bulaba country
Travel / Re: The 10 Greatest Commercial Passenger Aircrafts( Planes) Of All Time by osuolale95(m): 8:05pm On Mar 25
Concord happens to be a very fast plane
Travel / Re: The 10 Greatest Commercial Passenger Aircrafts( Planes) Of All Time by Racoon(m): 5:27pm On Mar 25
NUMBER - 8: DC-10
MANUFACTURER: McDonnell Douglas
COMMERCIAL SERVICE: 1971-2014
NUMBER BUILT: 386
MAX PASSENGERS: 399


The Nuts and Bolts
Life was not always easy for this workhorse of the American skies. Conceived as the successor to the similarly sturdy DC-8 – with which the Missouri-based aviation firm had entered the jetliner race at the end of the 1950s – the DC-10’s first years were blighted by safety issues.

But its reliability improved hugely as the years passed; it was only taken out of passenger service a decade ago. It retains an iconic status in retirement, partly due to the unusual placement of the third of its three engines; not beneath the wings, but above the main fuselage, at the bottom of the tail-fin.


Finest moment:
Its recovery from this tragedy. An understandable loss of confidence saw orders for the DC-10 slump in the early 1980s, but after modifications, it became one of America’s most trusted aircraft. It out-lived its parent company (McDonnell Douglas merged with Boeing in 1997), and was still part of the Biman Bangladesh Airlines fleet 10 years ago (its last scheduled passenger flight was on February 20 2014).

When Northwest Airlines put its final DC-10 to bed on January 8 2007, pilot Wade Blaufuss offered a tribute. “The DC-10 is a reliable airplane, fun to fly, roomy and quiet, kind of like flying an old Cadillac Fleetwood,” he explained. “We’re sad to see an old friend go.”


Darkest Hour
The loss of American Airlines Flight 191 on May 25 1979, when a DC-10’s left-wing engine detached during take-off from Chicago’s O’Hare International – leading to a crash less than a mile beyond the runway, with a total loss of life (258 passengers and 13 crew, plus two unfortunate bystanders on the
). Photos of the last moments show the stricken plane flying on its side, the pilots struggling for control. Over 40 years later, the 273 fatalities still rank as the worst air disaster on American soil. 


Where Can I See One?
Next to a Concorde at Manchester Airport’s Runway Visitor Park (see manchesterairport.co.uk). And, brilliantly, reconstituted as the centrepiece of the Gate 88 nightclub – on the Indonesian party island of Bali (instagram.com/gate88langit). 
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NUMBER - 9: Comet
MANUFACTURER: De Havilland
COMMERCIAL SERVICE: 1952-1997
NUMBER BUILT: 114
MAX PASSENGERS: 76


The Nuts and Bolts:
It is easy to argue that modern passenger flight could not have existed without the Comet – in its roles as both pioneer and fall guy. As the Second World War ended, engineering visionary Sir Geoffrey de Havilland answered the call for a great British leap forward in aviation, crafting this workhorse – powered by four turbojet engines – with one eye on the coming era of transatlantic travel.

He was not entirely successful, and it would take four versions of the plane before the project was fully realised. But by the time Comet 4 was aloft in April 1958, the jet era was in motion.


Finest Moment:
October 4 1958, when the British Overseas Airways Corporation (BOAC) launched the first regular jet-powered service between London and New York (albeit with a refuelling stop at Gander in Newfoundland) using a newly minted Comet 4.

Darkest Hour:
Together, 1953 and 1954 were disastrous for the Comet. A Canadian Pacific Airlines Comet 1A crashed on take-off in the Pakistani city of Karachi on March 3 1953; the first fatal jetliner crash. Worse was to follow. Three Comets were brought down by structural problems over the next 13 months (May 2 1953; January 10 1954; April 8 1954) – a trio of accidents which did significant damage to the plane’s reputation. However, the subsequent investigations – particularly into the thorny issue of cabin pressurisation – would pave the way for the more reliable aircraft that would come after.


Where Can I See One?
You can find examples of the Comet 1, in varying states of preservation, at the RAF Museum Cosford (rafmuseum.org.uk) in Shropshire, and the De Havilland Aircraft Museum (dehavillandmuseum.co.uk) in Hertfordshire. The National Museum of Flight (nms.ac.uk/national-museum-of-flight) near Edinburgh has a Comet 4.


NUMBER - 1O: Constellation
MANUFACTURER: Lockheed
COMMERCIAL SERVICE: 1943-1968
NUMBER BUILT: 856
MAX PASSENGERS: 109


The Nuts and Bolts:
The Second World War was still aflame when California-based Lockheed launched the plane that would become affectionately known as “Connie”. The Constellation would have military as well as civilian roles, but gained its place in aviation history by being the first mass-market passenger aircraft with a pressurised cabin, enabling it to fly higher than the worst of the weather in a way that had been impossible before. Its distinctive triple tail-fin also gave it an unmistakablity – and grace – of shape.


Finest Moment:
While clearly much more of a military mission than an exercise in passenger transportation, the Constellation (the C-121 model) was part of the Anglo-American airforce which flew more than 250,000 flights over Germany during the “Berlin Airlift” of June 1948 to September 1949 – delivering supplies to West Berliners cut off from the rest of the world by a Soviet blockade and the first serious tensions of the Cold War. It would repeat the endeavour in the Biafran Airlift, dropping desperately needed humanitarian aid into the darkness of the Nigerian Civil War – in 1968 and 1969.


Darkest hour
A hideous accident on June 30 1956, when TWA Flight 2 (a Lockheed L-1049 Super Constellation) and United Airlines Flight 718 (a Douglas DC-7) collided above the Grand Canyon. The combined fatalities (128; 70 on the Constellation, 58 on the DC-7) made this the first commercial aviation disaster with a three-figure death toll.


Where Can I See One?
At the Musée de l’Air et de l’Espace, a superb aerospace museum at Paris’s Le Bourget airport (museeairespace.fr). And, in rather imaginative fashion, at the TWA Hotel (twahotel.com) – the former TWA Flight Center at New York’s John F. Kennedy Airport, where a 1958 Constellation has been redesigned as a retro cocktail bar.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/greatest-passenger-aircraft-of-all-time/

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Travel / The 10 Greatest Commercial Passenger Aircrafts( Planes) Of All Time by Racoon(m): 5:26pm On Mar 25
From the dashing Comet to the iconic jumbo jet, our fantasy league table of trailblazing aircraft should provoke plenty of travel nostalgia. A great deal has changed since December 17 1903 – but the basics have stayed the same.

In the 121 years since Orville and Wilbur Wright soared briefly into the first powered flight – taking to the air above the sandy Outer Banks of North Carolina – planes have become much bigger, much more sophisticated, and certainly much faster. Where once, a 12-horsepower engine and twin propellers were enough to launch the Wright Flyer 120ft (37m) at walking pace, modern aircraft have crossed half the planet at mile-per-hour speeds of four figures. And where the Wright Flyer could carry a single passenger (who was also the pilot), jets of the 21st century can, in some cases, hold close to 1,000 people.

So much, so obvious. But if you were to create a fantasy league table, ranking the very big birds of commercial aviation in some sort of order, which aircraft would make the list, and how would they stack up? Can you analyse the mould-breakers of yesteryear – the great leaps forward crafted by the likes of De Havilland and McDonnell Douglas – alongside the contemporary feats of engineering crafted by the likes of Boeing and Airbus? And what of those splendours of the skies which went supersonic? Is it possible to compare airborne apples and oranges – or do you just end up with a messy fruit salad?

Perhaps. But we’re going to try it anyway. The following planes could feasibly be described as the 10 greatest passenger aircraft of all time. Disagree? Tell us why below.

NUMBER - 1: 747
MANUFACTURER: Boeing
COMMERCIAL SERVICE: 1970-present
NUMBER BUILT: 1,574
MAX PASSENGERS: 524 (though typically 366)


The greatest passenger aircraft ever built? Quite possibly. Though far slower than Concorde (it has a top speed of 614mph, in the case of the 747-8i), no plane is quite as emblematic of the development of air travel from niche luxury enjoyed by the few to a basic commodity available to all.

Lovingly nicknamed the “Jumbo Jet” from the moment it emerged from a Boeing hangar on September 30 1968, the 747 has been a fixture in the firmament for over half a century. And while its era is drawing to a close – the last one, a 747-8F, was delivered to American cargo carrier Atlas Air on January 31 2023 – its iconic four-engined shape will be visible above us for a while yet.

Finest moment
Carrying the Space Shuttle on its broad back. Two 747s were extensively modified for this very high-profile purpose. Each aircraft would transport all five of the operational Space Shuttle orbiters at various points between 1977 and 2012.


Darkest hour:
Two, in particular, linger starkly in the memory. The runway collision of two 747s at Los Rodeos Airport on Tenerife on March 22 1977 – a cataclysm of miscommunication in heavy fog that took the lives of 583 passengers and crew across the two aircraft (only 61 survived) – remains the deadliest ever air disaster.

The death toll from the downing of a Pan Am 747 over Lockerbie on December 21 1988 (270 people, including 11 on the ground) was smaller, but the image of the Clipper Maid Of The Seas cockpit, lying disembodied upon the Scottish turf, is arguably air travel’s most haunting.Only a few dozen airlines still fly the iconic jumbo jet 


Where Can I See One?
Flying for Lufthansa; Germany’s national carrier still has 27 747s in its fleet. At Cotswold Airport (cotswoldairport.com) in Gloucestershire, where G-CIVB, a 747-400 put out to pasture by British Airways when it retired its remaining jumbo jets in 2020, has been converted into event space. At the Delta Museum in Atlanta, Georgia (deltamuseum.org), where the first 747-400 off the Boeing line sleeps in the sun.


NUMBER - 2: CONCORDE.
MANUFACTURER: British Aircraft Corporation; France Sud Aviation
COMMERCIAL SERVICE: 1976-2003
NUMBER BUILT: 20
MAX PASSENGERS: 128


The Nuts and Bolts
While it certainly isn’t the only plane to achieve the feat, the phrase “supersonic flight” mainly conjures mental images of one aircraft. Few would deny that Concorde is one of history’s greatest engineering achievements. Perhaps, too, it is the greatest ever example of Anglo-French cooperation; a post-war aviation dream brought to reality by clever minds on both sides of the Channel.


Certainly, it was a very graceful bird, easily capable of breaking the sound barrier in flying at speeds of up to 1,354mph (Mach 2.04). Many would suggest that its disappearance from the clouds was a step back – and as long as there is no direct replacement, Concorde will remain an icon in absentia.

Finest Moment:
Zooming into JFK on November 22 1977, as both British Airways and Air France belatedly began Concorde services to the Big Apple. Although the plane had been in the air since January 21 1976 (London to Bahrain; Paris to Rio de Janeiro), the US had moved to ban it from its airspace, nominally on noise grounds.


That embargo was lifted in February 1977, but it would take until the end of the year before that fabled nose-cone was seen heading for Queens. The transatlantic dash to New York would become Concorde’s signature; in record-breaking style on February 7 1996, when a BA flight managed the return leg to Heathrow in just two hours, 52 minutes and 59 seconds.

Darkest hour
July 25 2000, when Air France Flight 4590 crashed shortly after take off from Paris Charles de Gaulle – brought down by metallic debris on the runway, a burst tyre and a consequent fuel-tank rupture. The plane would continue in service for another three years, but the Concorde era effectively finished that day, on the ground in Gonesse.


Where Can I See One?
Eighteen of the 20 Concordes have been preserved, and 16 of them are on display. In locations as varied as the Imperial War Museum Duxford, in Cambridgeshire (iwm.org.uk), the Fleet Air Arm Museum in Somerset (nmrn.org.uk), at Aerospace Bristol (aerospacebristol.org) – and at the Udvar-Hazy Center, an offshoot of the Smithsonian Museum at Dulles Airport, outside Washington DC (airandspace.si.edu).


NUMBER - 3: A320
MANUFACTURER: Airbus
COMMERCIAL SERVICE: 1988-present
NUMBER BUILT: 11,328
MAX PASSENGERS: 186 (230 on the A321)


The Nuts and Bolts
Airbus hit upon a splendid formula when it ushered the A320 out of the design workshop in the mid-1980s. Although it suffered an embarrassing false start – Air France Flight 296Q, an airshow demonstration flight for competition winners and journalists, crashed into trees at Mulhouse-Habsheim Airfield on June 26 1988, only two months after the A320’s formal launch – it has gone on to become one of the true reliables of modern mid-range aviation. See a plane in the sky? It could well be an A320.


Finest Moment:
Becoming the best-selling passenger airliner of all time in October 2019 (in terms of deliveries and future orders), stealing this particular crown from the Boeing 737.

There are a number of members to what Airbus describes as the “A320 family” – including, somewhat confusingly, the A318 and A319 (both shorter than the A320), the A321 (a little bit longer), and the A320neo (which, introduced in 2016, offers significantly superior fuel economy to the original). As of January this year, this “family” adds up to 11,289 planes on duty with airlines (or an overall total of 18,460 if you include those on order or under construction).


Darkest Hour
The A320 has a largely admirable safety record - and the biggest blot in its copybook was scarcely its own doing. The destruction of Metrojet Flight 9268 – an A321-231 carrying 224 predominantly Russian passengers and crew back home to St Petersburg from Sharm El Sheikh on October 31 2015 – was most likely down to a terrorist device in the hold that detonated shortly after take-off. There were no survivors.


Where Can I See One?
At airports across the UK (EasyJet only uses members of the A320 family, while British Airways has 142) and the US (American Airlines is its largest operator, with 469).


NUMBER - 4: 737
MANUFACTURER: Boeing
COMMERCIAL SERVICE: 1968-present
NUMBER BUILT: 11,685
MAX PASSENGERS: 230.


The Nuts and Bolts
There is an argument that the 737 is the most successful passenger aircraft in history. When Boeing put it into production in February 1965 (Lufthansa was the launch customer), the talk was of long-haul comfort on short-haul routes. Six decades on, little has changed.


Though it has been through some 22 iterations, culminating in the 737 MAX family of aircraft, the 737 has been a relentless cog of the aviation world, flying short- and mid-range services (the 737 MAX has upped its maximum distance to 4,402 miles) without any great glamour or any particular fuss. If you have ever taken a flight of between three and five hours, there is a good chance that you were aboard a 737.

Finest Moment
Its ongoing ubiquity. In 2013, the 737 accounted for more than 25 per cent of the global airline fleet; 5,580 of the planes flying for 342 airlines in 111 countries.


Darkest Hour
Inevitably, a plane of such enduring use has seen its share of troubles. As of the end of last year, the 737 has been involved in 529 accidents and incidents. None caused more damage to its image than the two crashes, in quick succession, which led to the worldwide grounding of the 737 MAX between March 2019 and December 2020.

The crisis began when Indonesian low-cost carrier Lion Air suffered the loss of Flight 610 from Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang on October 29 2018 – the plane dropping into the Java Sea 13 minutes after take-off, killing all 189 people on board.


There was a similar catastrophe with Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 from Addis Ababa to Nairobi on March 10 2019; the aircraft coming down six minutes after departure, killing all 157 passengers and crew. Both disasters were attributed to glitches with the 737 MAX’s Manoeuvring Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS), which is meant to stabilise the aircraft, but inadvertently pushed both planes into nose-dives. Boeing fixed the issue promptly, but lost an estimated $60billion (£47billion) – via the cancellation of some 1,200 orders.

Where Can I See One?
Any time you take a flight with Ryanair; the 737 makes up the entirety of its fleet. The Museum of Flight (museumofflight.org) – on Boeing’s home turf in Seattle – has a 737-130, N515NA; the first of the aircraft ever built.


NUMBER - 5: 787(DREAMLINER).
MANUFACTURER: Boeing
COMMERCIAL SERVICE: 2011-present
NUMBER BUILT: 1,111
MAX PASSENGERS: 330 (on the 787-10)


The Nuts and Bolts
As the 20th century neared its end and the mighty 747 began to approach elder statesman status, Boeing – among other aerospace companies – started to ponder life after the “Jumbo Jet”. One of the results ultimately to coalesce in the design meetings was the 787 Dreamliner; an aircraft which sounds as if it was named to fit a fairytale, yet has become one of the most pragmatic planes on the runway. Though smaller than the legend it has partially replaced, it has become a firm part of many fleets.


Finest Moment
Arriving as one of the heralds of a new generation of aircraft. While boasts of extra sustainability have become part of almost every brand launch in the 21st century, the Dreamliner can plausibly sell itself as a big step forward. Lighter than some of its predecessors (Boeing states that the 787 is 50 per cent carbon composite, and only 20 per cent aluminium), it is supposedly 20 per cent more fuel-efficient than the Boeing 767.


It has also been hailed as a game-changer in customer experience. On-board facilities include a “gaseous filtration” system which provides a higher quality of air, the largest windows on any airliner (which passengers are able to lighten and dim, according to preference), and “Smoother Ride Technology”, which lessens the effects of turbulence.

Darkest Hour
As of the start of 2024, the Dreamliner has not been involved in a single fatality. But it suffered teething troubles with the lithium-ion batteries built into its systems. The initial weeks of 2013 were difficult – on January 7, an overheating battery sparked a fire on an empty Japan Airlines 787 parked at Boston Airport.

On January 16, an All Nippon Airways Dreamliner made an emergency landing on Japan’s Shikoku Island when a similar problem caused an in-flight blaze. America’s Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) grounded the 787 until the battery issue was resolved in the April.


Where Can I See One?
All over the planet. But particularly above Tokyo, Kyoto, Hiroshima et al – the two above-mentioned Japanese airlines are the two biggest users of the 787. Indeed, All Nippon Airways was the plane’s earliest adopter, flying the launch flight on October 26 2011. You can also find one of the three prototypes at the Pima Air & Space Museum (pimaair.org), amid the dust of Arizona in the southerly city of Tucson.


NUMBER - 6: AIRBUS 300( A300).
MANUFACTURER: Airbus
COMMERCIAL SERVICE: 1974-present
NUMBER BUILT: 561
MAX PASSENGERS: 281


The Nuts and Bolts
Where Boeing was out of the blocks as early as 1916, Europe’s biggest aviation manufacturer took a while to emerge, only coalescing in 1970. So the A300 was important; a new power-player’s first foray into an ultra-competitive industry. It was also the first twin-engine wide-bodied (ie double-aisled) airliner in the skies – ushering in the era of weary night flights where you not only find yourself in a middle seat, but a middle seat in the middle bank of seats, fighting for the armrest on both sides.


Finest Moment:
Making it big in the Far East. Launched in Air France livery on May 23 1974, the A300 had a stodgy start. Early sales were sluggish in the wider Europe, and in an America that needed to be convinced of the aircraft’s charms. It would be in Asia that the plane enjoyed its first significant surge in popularity. By the end of the 1970s, it was a key element of the fleets of Korean Air, Singapore Airlines, Malaysia Airlines, Garuda Indonesia, China Airlines (of Taiwan) – and Thai Airways International (amongst others).


Darkest Hour
The appalling circumstances in which Iran Air Flight 655 was sent to the bottom of the Strait of Hormuz on July 3 1988 – shot down by a pair of surface-to-air missiles fired from the USS Vincennes during a time of (particularly) heightened military tensions in the Persian Gulf. The United States Navy pleaded a case of mistaken identity and communications failure; Iran claimed the warship had acted with, at best, extreme carelessness, at worst, with malign intention. Either way, all 290 souls on the A300 died.


Where Can I See One?
Production of the A300 ceased in 2007. Just short of 200 (197) of the planes are still in professional service – although largely, these days, on cargo duties. Remarkably, at least seven retired A300s have been converted into restaurants, including at Danialand (danialand.com) – a theme park in Agadir, on the Atlantic coast of Morocco.


NUMBER - 7: AIRBUS A380
MANUFACTURER: Airbus
COMMERCIAL SERVICE: 2007-present
NUMBER BUILT: 254
MAX PASSENGERS: 853 (although 575 tends to be standard)


The Nuts and Bolts:
Can you have too much of a good thing? This question applies to Airbus’s colossal creation; the titan that, since it came into service 17 years ago, has been both the world’s largest passenger plane, and the only full-length double-decker aircraft. The Toulouse-based aerospace giant began working on its behemoth as long ago as 1988, hoping to build a rival to the 747.


The project was a success in one way; merely in taking off, the A380 eclipsed Boeing’s greatest achievement in size and modernity. But it is so big that airlines have struggled to make it economically viable, and the pandemic – when many carriers were forced to place their A380s in storage – has probably killed its future.


Finest Moment:
The initial buzz. The A380 arrived to considerable fanfare, and there was so much interest in its first flight – a Singapore Airlines jaunt to Sydney on October 25 2007 – that tickets were sold via a charity auction. One passenger paid a reported $100,380 (£79,300) for their seat. It is tempting to snipe that this was a poor investment.


Darkest Hour:
Its slow death. Although the A380 has a flawless safety record (leaving aside a pair of emergency landings, due to engine issues, which made headlines in 2010 and 2017), airlines have fallen out of love with the “Superjumbo”. Mainly due to its high operating costs; an issue only exacerbated by the pandemic.

However, even before Covid, faith in the plane was failing – Virgin Atlantic and Qantas cancelled significant orders in 2018 and 2019 respectively. When Emirates followed suit in February 2019, pulling the plug on its purchase of 39 A380s, Airbus was forced to bow to the inevitable. Production of the aircraft ceased in December 2021, when the last remaining order rolled off the line.


Where Can I See One?
For now, in the heavens above you, flying for the likes of British Airways, Emirates, Singapore Airlines and Qantas. Also at the Aeroscopia museum at Toulouse-Blagnac Airport (aeroscopia.fr) – the second test model, as donated by Airbus.
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