Dejini:
Mr Femi was not sentenced but remanded in prison till his case was settled. According to Mr Femi's story, the title of the case says Lagos State versus Mr Femi. Is MFM representing Lagos State or MFM is now Lagos State?

Lawyer, you can attest to the fact that MFM rarely lose their litigation but this one is a shock to everyone. MFM not Lagos State claimed to have all their plans and 8 witnesses but still lost the case. How Sir?

It's okay to Isolate the Olukoya's from this but who is Gbadamosi? What is his history? Shouldn't he be investigated? How did he uncover the plans of these so called "armed robbers"? There is a reason MFM always pray that whatsoever is not planted in MFM should be uprooted. I pray God in heaven answers that prayer speedily!!!

Lawyer if you want to set the record straight, you have to be honest with yourself. How can they lose a case despite having all the evidences and more than 5 witnesses including a commissioner of police as claimed by Mr Femi in his story? It simply means those evidences were not compelling enough and nothing ties the suspect to those evidences aside witness words which the honorable court knows can be manipulated.

I will still reiterate, who is Gbadamosi? What is his relationship with MFM? Let's reference the date Mr Femi claimed he saw him in Ogbomoso with his calendar, who is his alibi?
Where was he(and the answer shouldn't be that he was at home) on that day?

Just imagine when Moses elected elders to help him oversee things with their discretion, should an Israelite come to report one of those elders to Moses directly, I wonder what will happen. Even his own family planned to ursurp him if not for God's intervention. Lawyer, you can defend the Olukoya's but please who is Gbadamosi? Even if his last name is Olukoya, he is not a family of Dr. Daniel Olukoya so who is he? Why are you defending him so hard? Why wasn't he investigated? No stone should be left unturned!!!!

May the Olukoya's (Dr Daniel and his family alone!!!) not be led astray by those regarded
as trusted allies/friends/family members.

SIRTee15:

This is not about monotheism v polytheism. This thread is about associating a graven image with your deity. Can we call it idolatry when we venerate a stone during worship of your god


I never said u pray to the stone. I wrote u Muslims kiss or touch the stone as atonement of sin- this is found in your literature books.
Let me ask u a question, do u believe the Black Stone will come forth on the Day of Resurrection and will testify in favour of those who touched it in truth.

It was narrated that Ibn ‘Abbas said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said concerning the Stone: “By Allah, Allah will bring it forth on the Day of Resurrection, and it will have two eyes with which it will see and a tongue with which it will speak, and it will testify in favour of those who touched it in sincerity.”

Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 961; Ibn Maajah, 2944

Is this not evidence that the black stone has significant spiritual influence and connotation.


Look at this guy, what's my business in what's written in your books. Did I tell u I believe the nonsense? It's your hadiths that said the stone turned from white to black because people were touching it. If u question the absurdity, u should take it up with your muslim scholars and not me.
I don't consider the black stone anything more than a pagan stone that was elevated to spiritual significance by Muhammed for whatever reason. The Black Stone was held in reverence well before Islam and was a site of pilgrimage of Nabataeans who visited the shrine once a year to perform their pilgrimage. The Semitic cultures of the Middle East had a tradition of using unusual stones to mark places of worship, bowing, worshiping and praying to such sacred objects. However the practice is condemned in the Tanakh as idolatrous and was the subject of prophetic rebuke.
The meteorite-origin theory of the Black Stone is derived from similar stories of sacred stones such as the one placed and worshipped in the Greek Temple of Artemis.


Do footballers kiss the world cup trophy when they pray to Allah. Wont the muslim world be enraged if a muslim footballer place the trophy in front of him while doing his daily prayer and start kissing it.
Do footballers kiss the cup with hope of reward in heaven? abeg your comparison makes no sense. Try harder.


hajj is a period dedicated to Allah with intention of drawing close to him. Any act done during this time is considered spiritually significant otherwise u wont do it.


It's interesting that Aisha's age was never an issue amongst both early christians apologetics and muslims scholars.
None of your medevial scholars found it odd that muhammed married a 6 year old despite the Aisha's age of marriage was well known and documented in Islamic literatures. In the Islamic world, the young age of her marriage did not draw any significant discourse apart from associating her young age as affirmation of her virginity and subsequent religious purity. Her age did not interest later Muslim scholars either, and went unremarked-upon even by medieval and early-modern Christian polemicists.
It wasn't until the 19th century when westerners arrogate to themselves superiority moral complex and began to question child marriage, thus putting light on Muhammed's marriage with Aisha that her age became controversial.

So why all of a sudden modern Islamic scholars now have an issue with Aisha's age and are revising her age of marriage by pushing it forward, bringing up all forms of weak evidence when clear statements clearly shows she was a very young child. Is it because they now realised marrying a 6 year old girl is rightfully paedophilia and morally wrong.

Narrated `Aisha:

I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Messenger used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for `Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.)
Sahih al-Bukhari 6130
What adult woman and her friends play with dolls for heaven's sake
Muslims should learn to call what is evil as evil, Muhammed is no saint!!!


I referenced it as example of how not to follow Muhammed, u are the one that made a molehill out of it.



Drop Aisha's marriage and answer my question. what is the spiritual significance of the black stone. why is it venerated?

Stayingalive:



A monochrome view of the world. A world where its more about the deed than the effect of the deed itself. How does the word “Amen” has anything to with the foundation of being a Christain or being right with God? Why is it now a topic of discussion when it is the turn of JW?

But how can I paint a picture to a blind man. How? So it’s just not possible. No worry

YES,it does.
Oga Stayingalive, Do you believe in God's word the holy Bible?

Was Ephesians 3:14-21 written to guide you?
Paul wrote that prayer & said "AMEN" how many times?

Was 1 Corinthians 4:6 written to guide you?

"Do NOT go beyond the things that are written"

OR


Stayingalive Christian wey Ephesians chapter 3 no dey teach am anything to guide his faith.
Oga,Continue WAILING & DECEIVING yourself.

ganisucks:
Some people are daring The king. Because of greed and the fact that the king has picked the next caretaker come 2027, they want to pitch their tent with a Nazi sympathizer. When the King will face them, they will start doing National prayer. Shioor.

AbuTwins:


This is contrary to what i said. Touching the Stone is one of the things by means of which Allaah erases sins. You should ask Allah those questions! Allah forgives sins himself. The means could be touching the black stone, performing a successful Hajj, prayer for forgiveness from a righteous Muslim, asking for forgiveness of sins yourself, etc. The belief that anyone could forgive sin apart from Allah is Kufr.

AbuTwins:

Just as there are so many instances where the evidence stem from your own Bible! Obatala, Oduduwa, Sango and other Yoruba stories are folklores, myths and legends. Whoever takes those seriously need a brain check! Oduduwa came down on a chain with palm kernel and a chicken, etc. Then they have to show us their scriptures! Who are their Prophets? What are their beliefs?

AbuTwins:

You should ask Allah when you meet Him. Matters of the unseen are not answered by humans!

AbuTwins:

So why do they give them food? Offer them sacrifice by spilling blood on them, etc?

AbuTwins:

Where did Allah specifically and contextually say He has daughters? Can't you guys do without telling lies?

honesttalk21:


Libation of the Polytheists is for gods (plural/polytheism) not God. You can insist for your satisfaction that the aforementioned isn't true. Ask your traditionalist friends or acquaintances if other gods exist as well as the ones they pour libation for?

honesttalk21:


Have you bothered to study the the chain of transmission and the text of hadith that say the black stone grants forgiveness? Please provide the text of the prayer made to the black stone asking it for forgiveness and a report of its response otherwise stop repeating what is untruth.

honesttalk21:


Do you not see how illogical your claim of a black stone being white then turned black due to sins is? When you paint your house with high quality paint does it not darken over years of exposure to natural element? I thought you are a professional of advanced scientific learning? Why is it not called the once white but blackened stone or any other such variant? Give statistically representative evidence of people that saw it when it was white. I figure you have another repugnant untruthful response to this.

honesttalk21:


Why prophet Muhammad kissed the stone has been explained before. His forefather's placed it after it came to earth. Do you not know how certain treasure passed from generation to generation are valued? When footballers win even the world cup don't they kiss it despite replicas being made for tournaments? This stone is the same over several millennia.

honesttalk21:


How is Allah's time shared? It seems you don't know all the rights of hajj are in worship of Allah.

honesttalk21:

Just noticed you repeat the usual slander of the age of Aisha that is definitely a lie. Scrutiny of this by scholars do not agree with this.
https://newlinesmag.com/essays/oxford-study-sheds-light-on-muhammad-underage-wife-aisha/#:~:text=According%20to%20Little%2C%20the%20claim,of%20Aisha%20against%20Shiite%20detractors.


https://www.academia.edu/37720516/A_Hadith_Scholar_Presents_New_Evidence_that_Aisha_was_Near_18_the_Day_of_Her_Marriage_to_the_Prophet_Muhammad?email_work_card=title

What adult woman and her friends play with dolls for heaven's sake

honesttalk21:

It is an over flogged case and has no direct relation with your originally asked question or do you now equate the prophet's marriage to the primary acts of worshipping Allah?

honesttalk21:

I imagine this later inclusion is a ploy for further unending discussion.

sparko1:
In 2013 I made a post and cited some research materials for the above given topic. When this topic was discussed most people saw it as a debate that has no bases in Nigeria because according to most, it's something of no consequences, but over the years things have changed.

About a week ago I saw a video of guy almost linched by a group of young men in the NORTH for LOOKING/WALKING/SPEAKING IN A GIRLISH WAY LOL.

This topic is now more important than ever because though we consider this abnormal or against our religious orientation, we must agree there is something more and it deserves a thorough understanding.

Find below link to previous post: https://www.nairaland.com/1471542/being-gay-it-genetic-choice

Most people will ask why bring this back up, from experience, we have always been reactive, always trying to retrace our steps, everything from yahoo boys, to scamming, jungle justice, even kidnapping, it's until we begin to see real numbers of dead bodies or decay that we start reorientation, at which time lots of young minds are already too far gone.
I made a promise to re-evaluate the topic after 10 years.

The core of the research:
Homosexuality, “GAY” Is it Genetic or a Choice? Can the 'Choice' Be Changed?

Some research materials:
Research shows that the basic template for the body and brain of a human fetus is female in its structure. As a result men have some redundant female features such as nipples. Men also have mammary glands which do not function but retain the potential to produce milk. There are thousands of recorded cases of lactation in male prisoners of war where starvation led to a diseased liver failing to break down the hormones essential for breast-feeding.
As we now know, six to eight weeks after conception, a male fetus (XY) receives a massive dose of male hormones called androgens which first forms the testes, and then a second dose to alter the brain from a female format to a male configuration. If the male foetus does not receive enough male hormones at the appropriate time, one of two things may happen. Firstly, a baby boy may be born with a brain structure that is more feminine than masculine, in other words, a boy who will most likely be gay by puberty. Secondly, a genetic boy may be born with a fully functioning female brain and a set of male genitals. This person will be transgender.
This is a person who is biologically male but feeling as if he is a female. Sometimes a genetic male is born with a set of both male and female genitals.
Geneticist Anne Moir in her ground-breaking book Brainsex documents the many cases of genetic boys being born looking like girls and being raised as girls, only suddenly to find that they have penis and testicles that 'appear' at puberty.

Homosexuality is Part of History
Among the ancient Greeks, homosexuality was not only permitted, it was highly respected. The slim, boyish, youthful figure was their ideal of beauty, and paintings and statues were erected in its honour. Poems were written about the love that prominent older men had for young men. The Greeks believed that male homosexuality served a noble, higher purpose and it inspired youths to become worthy members of the community. They also found that young gay men proved to be some of their most courageous, successful warriors as they would fight 'side-by-side in love with each other'.
In Roman times, Julius Caesar was described as 'every woman's man and every man's woman.'
When Christianity frowned on same-sex relationships and God reportedly brought his vengeance down on the City of Sodom, homosexuality was banned, disappeared into the closet and wasn't seen in public again until recently. The Victorian era refused to acknowledge that homosexuality existed and, even if it did, it must be the Devil's work and would be severely punished. As we enter the 21st Century, older generations still believe that homosexuality is a recent phenomenon and an 'unnatural' act. The reality is that it has been around for as long as male foetuses missed out on their sufficient share of male hormones.

Is it Genetic or a Choice?
When Body Language author Allan Pease and geneticist Anne Moir appeared together on British television in 1991 for the launch of their books Brainsex (Mandarin Books) and Talk Language (HarperCollins), Moir revealed the results of her research which highlighted what scientists have known for years – homosexuality is inborn, not a choice.
Not only is homosexuality mostly inborn, but the environment in which we are raised plays a lesser role in our behaviour than was previously thought. Scientists have found that as an adolescent or adult, parents' efforts to suppress homosexual tendencies in their off-spring has practically no effect. And because the impact of male hormone (or lack of it) on the brain is the main culprit, most homosexuals are males.
There is no solid evidence that upbringing affects the likelihood of a child becoming homosexual.
For every lesbian (female body with a masculinised brain) there are about eight to ten gay men. If the gay and lesbian movement was to embrace this research and, if the education system taught these findings, homosexual and transsexual people would not encounter as much prejudice. Most people are more tolerant and accepting of a person who has inborn differences than they are of a person who, in their opinion, makes an unacceptable choice. Take, for example, Thalidomide babies, Parkinson's sufferers, autism or people who have cerebral palsy. The public is more accepting of these people because they are usually born with these conditions, as opposed to homosexuals who supposedly choose their lifestyle. Can we be critical of a person who is born left handed or dyslexic? Or with blue eyes and red hair? Or with a female brain in a male body? Most homosexual people believe that their homosexuality is a choice and, like many minority groups, often use public forums to display their 'choice', which generates negative attitudes from many members of the public.

Can the 'Choice' Be Changed?
Gays and lesbians do not choose their sexual orientation any more than heterosexuals do. Scientists and most human sexuality experts agree that homosexuality is an orientation that is unchangeable. Researchers believe that most homosexual orientation develops in the womb, that homosexual patterns are firmly fixed by around age five and that it is outside the control of the person. For centuries, techniques have been used to suppress homosexual feelings in 'sufferers' which have included breast amputation, castration, drug therapy, uterus removal, frontal lobotomy, psychotherapy, electric shock therapy, prayer meetings, spiritual counseling and exorcism. No therapies have ever succeeded.
The best they have been able to achieve is to make some bisexuals confine their sexual activities to members of the opposite sex or force some homosexuals to become celibate through guilt or fear, and to push many others to suicide.
Scientists have shown that homosexuality is an orientation that is unalterable. It's not a choice.
There is a greater than 90% chance that you, the reader, are heterosexual. Think about how difficult it would be to feel sexually attracted to someone of your own sex and you will begin to understand how it is virtually impossible to create feelings that do not already exist. If it was a choice, as many proclaim, why would any intelligent person choose a way of life that exposes them to so much hostility, prejudice and discrimination? Hormones are responsible, not human choices.
Are we Slaves to our Biology?
Scientists know how to change the sexuality of rats and monkeys in the womb. Some groups claim that we can control our likes and dislikes by will or choice and they insist that we can all reverse park or read street directories with the same ease. But scientists know this is unrealistic. You don't need to be a scientist to see that rabbits can't fly, ducks are lousy runners, most women have difficulty reading maps and men reading newspapers are temporarily deaf. Understanding brain structure differences makes us more tolerant of each other and allows us to have greater control over our destiny and to feel positive about our inclinations and choices.
Human intelligence has evolved to a point where we are more in control of our emotions than other animals and can think through our choices. Other animals don't think: they react to circumstances and this makes them slaves to their biology. Our biology is the motivations behind many of the choices we make that sometimes don't seem to make sense to us. So while we are more in control of ourselves than most other animals, we still can't completely buck the system. The biggest obstacle facing most people is their rejection of the idea that we are just another animal with a smart brain. This refusal makes these people victims of their biology.

source.
Barbara & Allan Pease
Abstract from “why men don't listen & women can't read maps

Well long story short, there are two important question here;
1. Is it Genetic or a Choice?
If it is genetic, why do we have to criticize, force other on their sexual orientation? Isn’t that why we as humans have the right to make choice for ourselves

2. Can the 'Choice' Be Changed?
If it can’t be changed why pretend it can be changed by placing a ban on it, when in reality it can’t, instead of allowing these people live happily like every other person.

sparko1:
In 2013 I made a post and cited some research materials for the above given topic. When this topic was discussed most people saw it as a debate that has no bases in Nigeria because according to most, it's something of no consequences, but over the years things have changed.

About a week ago I saw a video of guy almost linched by a group of young men in the NORTH for LOOKING/WALKING/SPEAKING IN A GIRLISH WAY LOL.

This topic is now more important than ever because though we consider this abnormal or against our religious orientation, we must agree there is something more and it deserves a thorough understanding.

Find below link to previous post: https://www.nairaland.com/1471542/being-gay-it-genetic-choice

Most people will ask why bring this back up, from experience, we have always been reactive, always trying to retrace our steps, everything from yahoo boys, to scamming, jungle justice, even kidnapping, it's until we begin to see real numbers of dead bodies or decay that we start reorientation, at which time lots of young minds are already too far gone.
I made a promise to re-evaluate the topic after 10 years.

The core of the research:
Homosexuality, “GAY” Is it Genetic or a Choice? Can the 'Choice' Be Changed?

Some research materials:
Research shows that the basic template for the body and brain of a human fetus is female in its structure. As a result men have some redundant female features such as nipples. Men also have mammary glands which do not function but retain the potential to produce milk. There are thousands of recorded cases of lactation in male prisoners of war where starvation led to a diseased liver failing to break down the hormones essential for breast-feeding.
As we now know, six to eight weeks after conception, a male fetus (XY) receives a massive dose of male hormones called androgens which first forms the testes, and then a second dose to alter the brain from a female format to a male configuration. If the male foetus does not receive enough male hormones at the appropriate time, one of two things may happen. Firstly, a baby boy may be born with a brain structure that is more feminine than masculine, in other words, a boy who will most likely be gay by puberty. Secondly, a genetic boy may be born with a fully functioning female brain and a set of male genitals. This person will be transgender.
This is a person who is biologically male but feeling as if he is a female. Sometimes a genetic male is born with a set of both male and female genitals.
Geneticist Anne Moir in her ground-breaking book Brainsex documents the many cases of genetic boys being born looking like girls and being raised as girls, only suddenly to find that they have penis and testicles that 'appear' at puberty.

Homosexuality is Part of History
Among the ancient Greeks, homosexuality was not only permitted, it was highly respected. The slim, boyish, youthful figure was their ideal of beauty, and paintings and statues were erected in its honour. Poems were written about the love that prominent older men had for young men. The Greeks believed that male homosexuality served a noble, higher purpose and it inspired youths to become worthy members of the community. They also found that young gay men proved to be some of their most courageous, successful warriors as they would fight 'side-by-side in love with each other'.
In Roman times, Julius Caesar was described as 'every woman's man and every man's woman.'
When Christianity frowned on same-sex relationships and God reportedly brought his vengeance down on the City of Sodom, homosexuality was banned, disappeared into the closet and wasn't seen in public again until recently. The Victorian era refused to acknowledge that homosexuality existed and, even if it did, it must be the Devil's work and would be severely punished. As we enter the 21st Century, older generations still believe that homosexuality is a recent phenomenon and an 'unnatural' act. The reality is that it has been around for as long as male foetuses missed out on their sufficient share of male hormones.

Is it Genetic or a Choice?
When Body Language author Allan Pease and geneticist Anne Moir appeared together on British television in 1991 for the launch of their books Brainsex (Mandarin Books) and Talk Language (HarperCollins), Moir revealed the results of her research which highlighted what scientists have known for years – homosexuality is inborn, not a choice.
Not only is homosexuality mostly inborn, but the environment in which we are raised plays a lesser role in our behaviour than was previously thought. Scientists have found that as an adolescent or adult, parents' efforts to suppress homosexual tendencies in their off-spring has practically no effect. And because the impact of male hormone (or lack of it) on the brain is the main culprit, most homosexuals are males.
There is no solid evidence that upbringing affects the likelihood of a child becoming homosexual.
For every lesbian (female body with a masculinised brain) there are about eight to ten gay men. If the gay and lesbian movement was to embrace this research and, if the education system taught these findings, homosexual and transsexual people would not encounter as much prejudice. Most people are more tolerant and accepting of a person who has inborn differences than they are of a person who, in their opinion, makes an unacceptable choice. Take, for example, Thalidomide babies, Parkinson's sufferers, autism or people who have cerebral palsy. The public is more accepting of these people because they are usually born with these conditions, as opposed to homosexuals who supposedly choose their lifestyle. Can we be critical of a person who is born left handed or dyslexic? Or with blue eyes and red hair? Or with a female brain in a male body? Most homosexual people believe that their homosexuality is a choice and, like many minority groups, often use public forums to display their 'choice', which generates negative attitudes from many members of the public.

Can the 'Choice' Be Changed?
Gays and lesbians do not choose their sexual orientation any more than heterosexuals do. Scientists and most human sexuality experts agree that homosexuality is an orientation that is unchangeable. Researchers believe that most homosexual orientation develops in the womb, that homosexual patterns are firmly fixed by around age five and that it is outside the control of the person. For centuries, techniques have been used to suppress homosexual feelings in 'sufferers' which have included breast amputation, castration, drug therapy, uterus removal, frontal lobotomy, psychotherapy, electric shock therapy, prayer meetings, spiritual counseling and exorcism. No therapies have ever succeeded.
The best they have been able to achieve is to make some bisexuals confine their sexual activities to members of the opposite sex or force some homosexuals to become celibate through guilt or fear, and to push many others to suicide.
Scientists have shown that homosexuality is an orientation that is unalterable. It's not a choice.
There is a greater than 90% chance that you, the reader, are heterosexual. Think about how difficult it would be to feel sexually attracted to someone of your own sex and you will begin to understand how it is virtually impossible to create feelings that do not already exist. If it was a choice, as many proclaim, why would any intelligent person choose a way of life that exposes them to so much hostility, prejudice and discrimination? Hormones are responsible, not human choices.
Are we Slaves to our Biology?
Scientists know how to change the sexuality of rats and monkeys in the womb. Some groups claim that we can control our likes and dislikes by will or choice and they insist that we can all reverse park or read street directories with the same ease. But scientists know this is unrealistic. You don't need to be a scientist to see that rabbits can't fly, ducks are lousy runners, most women have difficulty reading maps and men reading newspapers are temporarily deaf. Understanding brain structure differences makes us more tolerant of each other and allows us to have greater control over our destiny and to feel positive about our inclinations and choices.
Human intelligence has evolved to a point where we are more in control of our emotions than other animals and can think through our choices. Other animals don't think: they react to circumstances and this makes them slaves to their biology. Our biology is the motivations behind many of the choices we make that sometimes don't seem to make sense to us. So while we are more in control of ourselves than most other animals, we still can't completely buck the system. The biggest obstacle facing most people is their rejection of the idea that we are just another animal with a smart brain. This refusal makes these people victims of their biology.

source.
Barbara & Allan Pease
Abstract from “why men don't listen & women can't read maps

Well long story short, there are two important question here;
1. Is it Genetic or a Choice?
If it is genetic, why do we have to criticize, force other on their sexual orientation? Isn’t that why we as humans have the right to make choice for ourselves

2. Can the 'Choice' Be Changed?
If it can’t be changed why pretend it can be changed by placing a ban on it, when in reality it can’t, instead of allowing these people live happily like every other person.

sparko1:
In 2013 I made a post and cited some research materials for the above given topic. When this topic was discussed most people saw it as a debate that has no bases in Nigeria because according to most, it's something of no consequences, but over the years things have changed.

About a week ago I saw a video of guy almost linched by a group of young men in the NORTH for LOOKING/WALKING/SPEAKING IN A GIRLISH WAY LOL.

This topic is now more important than ever because though we consider this abnormal or against our religious orientation, we must agree there is something more and it deserves a thorough understanding.

Find below link to previous post: https://www.nairaland.com/1471542/being-gay-it-genetic-choice

Most people will ask why bring this back up, from experience, we have always been reactive, always trying to retrace our steps, everything from yahoo boys, to scamming, jungle justice, even kidnapping, it's until we begin to see real numbers of dead bodies or decay that we start reorientation, at which time lots of young minds are already too far gone.
I made a promise to re-evaluate the topic after 10 years.

The core of the research:
Homosexuality, “GAY” Is it Genetic or a Choice? Can the 'Choice' Be Changed?

Some research materials:
Research shows that the basic template for the body and brain of a human fetus is female in its structure. As a result men have some redundant female features such as nipples. Men also have mammary glands which do not function but retain the potential to produce milk. There are thousands of recorded cases of lactation in male prisoners of war where starvation led to a diseased liver failing to break down the hormones essential for breast-feeding.
As we now know, six to eight weeks after conception, a male fetus (XY) receives a massive dose of male hormones called androgens which first forms the testes, and then a second dose to alter the brain from a female format to a male configuration. If the male foetus does not receive enough male hormones at the appropriate time, one of two things may happen. Firstly, a baby boy may be born with a brain structure that is more feminine than masculine, in other words, a boy who will most likely be gay by puberty. Secondly, a genetic boy may be born with a fully functioning female brain and a set of male genitals. This person will be transgender.
This is a person who is biologically male but feeling as if he is a female. Sometimes a genetic male is born with a set of both male and female genitals.
Geneticist Anne Moir in her ground-breaking book Brainsex documents the many cases of genetic boys being born looking like girls and being raised as girls, only suddenly to find that they have penis and testicles that 'appear' at puberty.

Homosexuality is Part of History
Among the ancient Greeks, homosexuality was not only permitted, it was highly respected. The slim, boyish, youthful figure was their ideal of beauty, and paintings and statues were erected in its honour. Poems were written about the love that prominent older men had for young men. The Greeks believed that male homosexuality served a noble, higher purpose and it inspired youths to become worthy members of the community. They also found that young gay men proved to be some of their most courageous, successful warriors as they would fight 'side-by-side in love with each other'.
In Roman times, Julius Caesar was described as 'every woman's man and every man's woman.'
When Christianity frowned on same-sex relationships and God reportedly brought his vengeance down on the City of Sodom, homosexuality was banned, disappeared into the closet and wasn't seen in public again until recently. The Victorian era refused to acknowledge that homosexuality existed and, even if it did, it must be the Devil's work and would be severely punished. As we enter the 21st Century, older generations still believe that homosexuality is a recent phenomenon and an 'unnatural' act. The reality is that it has been around for as long as male foetuses missed out on their sufficient share of male hormones.

Is it Genetic or a Choice?
When Body Language author Allan Pease and geneticist Anne Moir appeared together on British television in 1991 for the launch of their books Brainsex (Mandarin Books) and Talk Language (HarperCollins), Moir revealed the results of her research which highlighted what scientists have known for years – homosexuality is inborn, not a choice.
Not only is homosexuality mostly inborn, but the environment in which we are raised plays a lesser role in our behaviour than was previously thought. Scientists have found that as an adolescent or adult, parents' efforts to suppress homosexual tendencies in their off-spring has practically no effect. And because the impact of male hormone (or lack of it) on the brain is the main culprit, most homosexuals are males.
There is no solid evidence that upbringing affects the likelihood of a child becoming homosexual.
For every lesbian (female body with a masculinised brain) there are about eight to ten gay men. If the gay and lesbian movement was to embrace this research and, if the education system taught these findings, homosexual and transsexual people would not encounter as much prejudice. Most people are more tolerant and accepting of a person who has inborn differences than they are of a person who, in their opinion, makes an unacceptable choice. Take, for example, Thalidomide babies, Parkinson's sufferers, autism or people who have cerebral palsy. The public is more accepting of these people because they are usually born with these conditions, as opposed to homosexuals who supposedly choose their lifestyle. Can we be critical of a person who is born left handed or dyslexic? Or with blue eyes and red hair? Or with a female brain in a male body? Most homosexual people believe that their homosexuality is a choice and, like many minority groups, often use public forums to display their 'choice', which generates negative attitudes from many members of the public.

Can the 'Choice' Be Changed?
Gays and lesbians do not choose their sexual orientation any more than heterosexuals do. Scientists and most human sexuality experts agree that homosexuality is an orientation that is unchangeable. Researchers believe that most homosexual orientation develops in the womb, that homosexual patterns are firmly fixed by around age five and that it is outside the control of the person. For centuries, techniques have been used to suppress homosexual feelings in 'sufferers' which have included breast amputation, castration, drug therapy, uterus removal, frontal lobotomy, psychotherapy, electric shock therapy, prayer meetings, spiritual counseling and exorcism. No therapies have ever succeeded.
The best they have been able to achieve is to make some bisexuals confine their sexual activities to members of the opposite sex or force some homosexuals to become celibate through guilt or fear, and to push many others to suicide.
Scientists have shown that homosexuality is an orientation that is unalterable. It's not a choice.
There is a greater than 90% chance that you, the reader, are heterosexual. Think about how difficult it would be to feel sexually attracted to someone of your own sex and you will begin to understand how it is virtually impossible to create feelings that do not already exist. If it was a choice, as many proclaim, why would any intelligent person choose a way of life that exposes them to so much hostility, prejudice and discrimination? Hormones are responsible, not human choices.
Are we Slaves to our Biology?
Scientists know how to change the sexuality of rats and monkeys in the womb. Some groups claim that we can control our likes and dislikes by will or choice and they insist that we can all reverse park or read street directories with the same ease. But scientists know this is unrealistic. You don't need to be a scientist to see that rabbits can't fly, ducks are lousy runners, most women have difficulty reading maps and men reading newspapers are temporarily deaf. Understanding brain structure differences makes us more tolerant of each other and allows us to have greater control over our destiny and to feel positive about our inclinations and choices.
Human intelligence has evolved to a point where we are more in control of our emotions than other animals and can think through our choices. Other animals don't think: they react to circumstances and this makes them slaves to their biology. Our biology is the motivations behind many of the choices we make that sometimes don't seem to make sense to us. So while we are more in control of ourselves than most other animals, we still can't completely buck the system. The biggest obstacle facing most people is their rejection of the idea that we are just another animal with a smart brain. This refusal makes these people victims of their biology.

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Barbara & Allan Pease
Abstract from “why men don't listen & women can't read maps

Well long story short, there are two important question here;
1. Is it Genetic or a Choice?
If it is genetic, why do we have to criticize, force other on their sexual orientation? Isn’t that why we as humans have the right to make choice for ourselves

2. Can the 'Choice' Be Changed?
If it can’t be changed why pretend it can be changed by placing a ban on it, when in reality it can’t, instead of allowing these people live happily like every other person.

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