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Haters of Late T.B. Joshua and SCOAN should keep off, the church is matching on!

tctrills:
Uncle take it easy. There is a difference between teaching someone and arguing with someone. You are clearly intent on arguing with me and losing an opportunity to teach the gospel.
Anyway, it's your choice. You could choose to argue with me to teach the truth.

Uncle or what 😮 🤯

Who is your uncle?

tctrills:
I will not insult him or start a fight with him. And it may not take till Jesus comes for him to understand. And lastly we don't expect everyone to get our message.
I will not argue with him, I will only teach him.

You only praise him by calling him a confusionist so continue arguing with him please!

tctrills:
You realize he is not a Christian right. So he doesn't see it from your angle also, you realize that this could be an opportunity to teach so many others who are reading this. Let's use every opportunity we have to teach the gospel instead of needless insults.
1 Peter 3:15
15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

Again, the gospel of Jesus Christ is not magic. It sometimes takes time before our works bear fruit.

So continue arguing with him till Jesus comes!

tctrills:
Just because you don't know the answer to his question doesn't warrant insults.
You should use this very good question as an opportunity to learn more and understand the bible better and not as an opportunity to fight.
He is not a Christian but he asked a very good question that most christians should be asking.

You that knew the answer to his question, did he reckon with you? Both of you arguing blindly!

Proverbs 26:4-5
Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him. Answer a fool according to his folly, or he will be wise in his own eyes.

It is on nairaland you want to gain the soul of a foolish one right? You will argue tired 😴 😑

tctrills:
You seem confused bro Jesus Christ preached and his apostles continued his words. Hope you know that all scripture is inspired of God. It's the same source. If you understand that all scripture is from the same source then your confusion will be over and you will understand.
2Tim. 3 Verses 16
[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
There is a reason why the bible did not end in Genesis. God continued to reveal more of his words up till revelations. Your ability to understand and accept this makes you a Christian

He seems so confused as you said isn't it? Are you praising him with that statement of yours?

AntiChristian:
Jesus says:
Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?
(Matthew 27:21-22)

Paul's guy Luke reported that Jesus answered saying: “Work hard to enter the narrow door to God’s Kingdom, for many will try to enter but will fail. (Luke 13:24)

Jesus emphasizes doing the will of the father as a condition to enter the Kingdom of heaven!

Paul says
For He says to Moses: “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” So then, it does not depend on man’s desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. (Romans 9:15-16)

Paul says it's by God's mercy oooooooooo!

Is it by God's mercy or by doing God's will aka works?

Salvation is beyond your understanding if you are still under demonic spirits that visited Muhammad in cave!

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MaxInDHouse:
According to God's word to Moses this is what was recorded:

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: Deuteronomy 6:4 KJV

Not three in one but one!

So what is the meaning of Jesus' statement at Matthew 28:18-20?

Jesus is telling us that after completing his job to lay down his life {John 19:30} God gave him all authority both in heaven and on earth so we can go now to all the nations preaching and teaching them all the things the true God the father of all creations has done for mankind through Jesus' ransom sacrifice and the support we will get through the Holy Spirit.
Not that God is three in one.

@ John 10:30 Jesus explained that himself and his father are one meaning he always comply with his father's opinion and he prayed that the same should be extended to his faithful disciples:

"And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one" John 17:22 KJV

If his disciples are one with Jesus and God what do you make of that?

For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men. Romans 14:17-18

Where is Trinity here?

You can never ever see the word TRINITY in the Bible neither can you see two persons agree on anything regarding Trinity because it's a lie that's why as many as the supporters of Trinity they can't come up with one doctrine!

Who said the Lord our God is not One? Are Christians claiming three Gods? Apply sense when typing next time!

Ohyoudidnt:
As I noted before you are merely a jester.

Within the context of the New testament of the Bible should you believe in it individuals who are afflicted by demons can indeed be healed through exorcism.

Obviously you don't know that exorcisms have been used to treat a wide variety of symptoms that are now associated with mental issues?

Look at it again before calling me a jester, exorcism is not about treating a demonic spirit or using treatment to cast out demons. If I should lecture you further on what exorcism is, you will give me another name apart from jester for exposing you

You have an Android phone, internet is there, I believe you're not quarreling with google.com, why not make use of any of these before bringing exorcism to justify your treatment for demonic spirits

Ohyoudidnt:
Any attempt to share information with you will be futility as your following post from the initial display the silly jest of your intentions.

In any case does your understanding of cure and mercy bear any relation to relief from a bother? Is demonic possession a bother to the one possesed and those around him or her?

Amuse yourself more please.

Birds of the same feather, if you read his post you won't be typing this rubbish. So in your religion, it is healing method you apply when you're been possessed with the demons. I doff my hat for your stupidity mister

AntiisIam:
Be guided Mister, casting out demons is not about treating illness. Demons are not ailments or diseases you can treat so the quran verses you quoted above is off point.. TRY AGAIN LATER

When I read his/her post, I was just laughing 🤣 here. Applying healing method when possessed with the demons

soundofcalm:
A religion that doesn't believe there are three persons in one God doesn't have the right to believe that demons can possess a person.

In the Bible, tere was a possessed person Jesus asked "what is your name" and he replied "we are legion": that is "they are many". I mean, many spirits speaking with one voice in one human being.
A Muslim that reads that passage of the Bible and believe such demons exist is a hypocrite for not believing Three Persons can be united in the Divine Trinity.

They believe demons can possess anyone as Muhammad was possessed by the demons in cave

madridguy:
It is called Ruqyah.

‘Ruqyah’ is the practice of treating illnesses through Qur’ānic āyāt, and invocations prescribed by the Messenger of Allah ﷺ. It is a means of cure for evil eye, magic, jinn and physical ailments.

The Qur’ān offers complete solace to a believer – both spiritually and physically. Ruqyah should therefore play an essential role in our lives. Allah (subḥānahū wa taʿālā) says, “And say: The truth has come, and falsehood has vanished. Surely falsehood is ever bound to vanish by its very nature.

وَنُنَزِّلُ مِنَ الْقُرْ‌آنِ مَا هُوَ شِفَاءٌ وَرَ‌حْمَةٌ لِّلْمُؤْمِنِيْنَ

And We send down in the Qur’ān that which is a cure and a mercy for the believers” (17:81-2).

Locate any mosque around you, talk to the Imam and he will help you with brothers that are specialist in ruqyah.

When you're been possessed with the demons, it is healing method you apply in islam right? I don't think you know what demon is but after all, Muhammad was possessed with the demons while in cave

How do muslims cast demons out from a demon possessed Islamic faithful, what method do they use to exorcise demons in the Islamic faith and how successful is the method from your own opinion?

This is for you all in JW's occultist religion/gathering! Revelation 22:19

MaxInDHouse:
Whatever you say ma! 1Peter 3:13-15

MaxInDHouse:
Our God is in charge of that! John 17:15

You mean your Jw's god is in charge of your confusion and ignorance?

AyemafugeILAJE:
Thou shall not murder was in reference to killing someone else of course....that text is clear...But how does that relate to killing oneself....golden rule of Christ says don't do to others what u can't do to yourself....so if someone can perform suicide on oneself, how does it affect the golden rule in this case...my head is just questioning

You're right but either by taking someone's life or one's life, both are murderous in nature

MaxInDHouse:
We weren't sent to convert holy ones like you {Mark 2:17} rather we we sent to fish out {Mark 1:17} the lost sheep of the house of faith {Matthew 10:6} these ones are Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, Traditionalists, Atheists, Agnostics and so on, they are worried about the deplorable condition of the house of faith so they walked away but when we find them we will take them back home! Luke 15:24

So Madam Sharon we aren't sent to you that's why we always try to avoid people like you who are Holy!

Take care of yourself

Bible says thou shalt not murder, so therefore, you're a murderer if you take your own life

MaxInDHouse:
With this it's obvious you don't understand the Bible but let me answer for the benefit of other followers of this thread.
Psalms 14:1 says:

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. Psalms 14:1

The verse isn't referring to someone who openly declared his stand regarding the existence of God but most people who have a form of godly devotion yet proving false to His powers! 2Timothy 3:5

So many religionists are atheists in their hearts but openly they are declaring they know God it's only God who can read hearts that knows they don't believe He exists!

Go back to your hall and brainwashed them with false teaching as NO sane Christian take you JW's occultist people serious for twisting the word of God

What St. Paul says of idolaters is equally true of atheists. Their foolish heart is darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they show that they are become fools, utterly destitute of true wisdom, as devoid of reason as of grace. They are corrupt in practice as well as principle. “Infidelity is the beginning of sin, folly the foundation of infidelity, and the heart the seat of both.” jorne. There is none, None of the fools here spoken of, and none of mankind by nature, none without supernatural grace; that doeth good from a right principle, to a right end, and in a right spirit. None of their actions are really and thoroughly good and pleasing to God. For if some of them be good, as to the matter of them, as when they do an act of justice or charity; yet those actions are corrupt in their principles or ends, not being performed out of love to God, and a conscientious desire and care to please him, or with a view to his glory, for then they would do other good actions as well as these: but in hypocrisy, or vain glory, or for some other sinister and unworthy design.

MaxInDHouse:
Since you don't know how to face the atheist i will stop responding to you and deliver my message before leaving the thread as for knocking on doors and gates that's Jesus' order {Matthew 10:11-13} and mind you most people in his time also believe he is teaching nonsense! John 10:20

Thanks for your time! .

I welcomed any run away tactic you wish to imply. I confronted you regard your condemnation write up of we the children of God.

May peace locate you!

Thanks for your time likewise

Janosky:
What you claimed you get right in Christendom is in the screenshots.
*Sexual molestation of minors in Christendom.

*Christendom covering up Sexual molestation & abuse of minors.

*Your gods of men & sheeples serving jail terms for the crime you are WAILING about JW's.


MUMU Hypocrite.

The screenshots shows sexual abused and raping raging in your kingdom hall by your elders you said are getting it right. You are a SILLY HYPOCRITE for thinking you're getting things right in your occult JW's religion by sexually abusing the minors

MaxInDHouse:
Madam just admit you goofed because there has always been complaints on what people claiming Christians don't get right and that has not made the heavens fall!

Attention shifted to another man again. So what Christians don't get right is what you get right inside your hall right?

MaxInDHouse:
Because you don't know how to preach other than what your so called pastors told you just follow up and learn.

Bible made it clear that they are a fool in Psalms 14:1 and went further by saying that I shouldn't answer them by their folly. But by the way it seems you're one of them.

The one I'm telling you here is even more than preaching rather than carrying one updated hand bag disturbing people's peace by knocking at their doors and gates with your nonsense teaching

MaxInDHouse:
Paul was expatiating on Jesus' teachings as he was chosen by Jesus so what did Jesus tell the man who has kept all the laws from his youth? Luke 18:18-23

And the expatiating word of Apostle Paul in Rom 2:12-16 regards Christ's teachings has answered your question, so stop arguing blindly

MaxInDHouse:
The Bible says:

“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. John 3:16
Are you saying that believing in Jesus is not the only way to salvation? John 14:6

MaxInDHouse:
Why not address the case of the atheist if you think Paul's letter is enough to convince him?

I don't have anything to do with atheist but with you for mocking the Christians

MaxInDHouse:
If you knew in the first place why not address the case before my comment?

Oya face him let me step aside and prove how the OP's write up is the simplest thing.

You saw him mocking the whole thing but kept quiet as you don't know how to prove what the OP said without quoting the Bible a book the atheist see as a brainwashing tool but when i want to address the matter you began hauling insult claiming you're fighting for Jesus!

You're the one mocking Christians in your previous write up but I understand your run away tactics while trying to shift it on someone else just because I've exposed your gullibility

MaxInDHouse:
The way members of Christendom churches present Jesus doesn't make sense that's why people like you take the matter as a joke.
Most of them only listen to what their pastors say and since they're not motivational speakers like their pastors they don't know how to convey what they heard to appeal to others that's why they only mimic few things and quote the same scriptures that everyone already knows.

Why is it compulsory to believe in Jesus?

I think that's the question you will like to know the answer without quoting what Jesus' own disciples said about him i will prove to you that there's nobody on this planet who doesn't need the TEACHINGS of Jesus if we must please the Almighty God.

Next question that may come to heart is since some have lived and died before Jesus' times and God has declared them righteous will such people also need his TEACHINGS to please Almighty God?

These two questions will be treated if you're willing to reason maturely.

Thanks!

MaxInDHouse:
Should i give you the whole weekend to prove how sensible you are in handling the situation with an atheist who doesn't believe in the Bible convincing him that he needs Jesus or you need help?

I can give you a whole year to prove how sensible you are in handling the situation with atheist who doesn't believe in God not to talk of Bible and Jesus

MaxInDHouse:
I'm waiting for you to prove that what the OP said is the SIMPLEST THING Madam Sharon.
When experienced evangelizers wants to deal with a situation that's difficult you just jump in with insults claiming it's the "simplest thing" the person i quoted doesn't believe in the Bible so how can convince him that he needs Jesus of Nazareth?

Please Madam Sharon i'm waiting!

One at a time, finish the one you started before jumping here. What is Apostle Paul saying in Rom 2:12-16?

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus didn't tell the man who told him he has kept all what the law says that he is OK o instead Jesus said the man must become his follower! Luke 18:18-23

So i don't think you understood what apostle Paul is saying there!

What is Apostle Paul saying in Rom 2:12-16?

MaxInDHouse:
The Bible says:

“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. John 3:16
Are you saying that believing in Jesus is not the only way to salvation? John 14:6

Had it been you read the Bible verses I added to my write up above, you won't ask such a question. The answer to your question is below here

Rom 2:12-16
12. For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law 13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; 14 for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, 15 who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) 16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel.

MightySparrow:
You ask direet question, they will be begging you the question.

They are just too weak in JWs, I see them as enemies of Christ