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Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 11:23pm On Jun 19, 2021
compton11:
mumu

U don't know and no Christians in this world know it

Thank you I am mumu for Christ and no Christian in this world and in heaven knows it, stay bless
Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 11:23pm On Jun 19, 2021
Empiree:
how relevant was your question?

It shows you're a hypocrite, anyways I am not bothered. You've did what Allah said you should do, Allah never told you to reply any question we Christians ask from you guys. I wish you success in all your endeavours, stay bless
Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 8:20pm On Jun 19, 2021
compton11:
who is talking about age here?


I say tell me about him when he was around the age of 13 to 25

Are you this daft? You said age 13 to 25 and you're not talking about age. This is getting out of hand, I need to excuse you guys. Thanks and God bless you my brother
Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 8:16pm On Jun 19, 2021
Empiree:
your problem can not be solved on social media. You need to meet Muslim comparators one in one for proper religious education. You are confusionists. This is the problem as long as you believe in bible because bible is your problem.

My Bible never tells me to meet any Muslim for knowledge, it is your own god that instructs you to meet us (Christians) for deepest knowledge when you're confused. Should I qoute for you that quranic verse again?
Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 8:11pm On Jun 19, 2021
Empiree:
answer his question and stop digressing. People are reading your posts and unintelligent and uncommonsensical you sound

Did you answer mine? I asked him if he's your saviour then I'll answer all his question but he refuse to answer.
Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 8:09pm On Jun 19, 2021
Empiree:
do you think I'm worried about you?. I only referred you to meet offline because your confusion is beyond redemption. You don't understand everything you have been saying. You keep confusing yourself. I already posted process of creation from QUR'AN

As you neglected to answer my questions despite answering all your questions thoroughly, you even lied, I caught you many times but using different tactics and in conclusion the process on how man was made from the quran really fck everything up as the author of quran was so confused.
Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 5:58pm On Jun 19, 2021
Empiree:
your problem can not be solved on social media. You need to meet Muslim comparators one in one for proper religious education. You are confusionists. This is the problem as long as you believe in bible because bible is your problem.

Hahahaha because I touched the aspect that affects you most in Qur'an, the process of creation not clearly stated in the book of Allah or the author of Quran not sure what man was made is that not confusion and you said Adam and Jesus were made from dust while the author of quran not even sure of what man was made off. Whom should we blame for this your confusion??
Religion / Re: What Is The Recommended Day To Rest (Saturday Or Sunday?) by SharonLoveth(f): 3:55pm On Jun 19, 2021
perezeghi:


I don't think I'm deviating......
I do not need to respond by my words. Scripture can speak for us all......
James 1:17
[17]But whatever is good and perfect comes to us from God, the Creator of all light, and he shines forever without change or shadow.

Take care and God bless.. I hate repeating myself wink BYE
Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 3:53pm On Jun 19, 2021
compton11:
just tell me u don't know nothing about him since the age of 12 to 25

I said earlier you just come from no where jumped into what that doesn't consign you. We are not talking about age here, if you don't know the main point been discussed why can't you just stop been buffon and face your front. You be PUMA?
Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 3:05pm On Jun 19, 2021
compton11:
who is empire?

Mrs woman,will u answer what I asked u?


tell us about Jesus since 13 years of age to 25 years of age on earth

If you don't know who he is, stop quoting me then. Let him face what he started
Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 3:03pm On Jun 19, 2021
compton11:
then ask the question and stop talking about empire

You come from no where jumped into what that doesn't consign you. Let me know if you're the Messiah that want to rescue him
Religion / Re: What Is The Recommended Day To Rest (Saturday Or Sunday?) by SharonLoveth(f): 3:02pm On Jun 19, 2021
perezeghi:


Was it God that named the woman as Eve in the Bible as well as the animals in the garden of Eden. Certainly philosophy is of man and not of God.

Still shifting the goal post, answer the question I asked from you, don't deviate.
Religion / Re: What Is The Recommended Day To Rest (Saturday Or Sunday?) by SharonLoveth(f): 11:49am On Jun 19, 2021
perezeghi:


There's a Jewish Calendar and God instructed His chosen people Israel on it.

Exod.12.1 - Now the LORD gave the following instructions to Moses and Aaron while they were still in the land of Egypt:
Exod.12.2 - "From now on, this month will be the first month of the year for you.
Exod.12.3 - Announce to the whole community that on the tenth day of this month each family must choose a lamb or a young goat for a sacrifice.


If you like history, you can also check about the Ethiopian Calendar. China also have their own unique calender.

What the rest of us use is the Gregorian calender which is a product of the Roman Catholic Church adapted from the Julian Calender used by the Romans/Greeks during the era of Julius Cesar.

You haven't answer my question
Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 11:48am On Jun 19, 2021
compton11:
be deceiving yourself there.

U that can't tell who Jesus is is 2 pages is talking about 50 pages.


U know what?

Instead of 50 pages,do us a favor and tell us about Jesus since 13 years of age to 25 years of age on earth

Who are you? Are you the Messiah Empiree send?
Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 11:46am On Jun 19, 2021
compton11:
and in the same Quran,moses was name was recognized more than Jesus.


And what that make Moses?

Are you now Mr Empiree's saviour? If Yes I have a question for you base on what you said above
Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 11:41am On Jun 19, 2021
Empiree:
oh if you talking about the screenshot, that doesn't proof his divinity.i already answered that. You missed it too. It is rather your own imaginary interpretation. Those verses are clear.

"Spirit from God". Even with this shows that his spirit came from another Entity, supreme Being. Which means there is Higher power than Jesus. Don't you understand English again?. And I explained to you that the same spirit was bestowed on Adam.


Q38:72, Q15:29

"So when I have proportioned him and breathed into him of My [spirit], then fall down to him in prostration."


Those verses are talking about Adam and this same process applies to every human being. Why don't you call average human beings God as well or are these verses talking about Jesus, too?.


Verse Q3:47 you quoted, how does this make Jesus God?. The verse says Angel Gabriel appeared to Mary in human form. How does this make Jesus God?.


To clarify your confusion, Quran makes it crystal clear that the same way Adam was created was the same way Jesus was created and they are both human beings.


The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was. Q 3:59


QUR'AN is clear unless and ofcourse, if you are not looking for the truth. You are the one confusing yourself. You quoted QUR'AN sura 10:94-95 to ask you but this is what you could come up with?. What a disappointment grin

I don't think you understand yourself or you're confused on the meaning of Divine..

Qur'an says Jesus is word of God, Spirit of God, Messiah, Quran even says Jesus gaveth life, He was born of virgin's womb, etc to you all these ARE NOT DIVINE RIGHT?

I asked you to name anyone that has all these attributes you refused to answer rather using different tactics to escpae the question

Did you see this on my previous posts about the process of creation as read from the Quran?


About the creation of man this is what Qur'an says:

Quran 96:2

“We Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood,”

Quran 15:26

“We created man from sounding clay, from mud molded into shape"

Quran 16:4

“He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer"

Quran 3:59

“The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: “Be”. And he was,”

Are you the one been confused or the author of quran? You said Jesus and Adam were created from dust, you can't stop to amazed me. The author of quran said Man were created from dust, blood, Clay, drop of sperm, etc which one should we rather go for because I don't understand the reason why the author of quran was so confused like this

Further more, when Adam died, does your own quran tells you he is alive up till date, does your own Quran tells you he ascended to heaven? Your MURIC brother and leader compared Jesus to Buhari you too an author of confusion is comparing the same Jesus to Adam as you said they were both created from dust, this is ridiculous
Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 10:31am On Jun 19, 2021
Empiree:
you go confused yourself tire. But in the screenshot of the QUR'AN verses you said they prove Jesus is God. You said it yourself


You are fond of lies, WHICH VERSE OF THE QUR'AN DID I QUOTED HERE THAT SHOWS JESUS AS GOD? Show it let me see. I only proofs to you with Quran references WHOM JESUS IS as word of God, Spirit of God, Saviour and Prophet of God. Pls STOP LYING


Empiree:


In your post @underlined above you acknowledged that Jesus is God which means he's above his Father. Now you twisted again that Jesus is not above his Father Are you confused or what?. You see distortion and confusion in christiandom now?. Your eyes go clear las las


Where is the underlined post that I said Jesus Christ is superior than his Father, Jehovah, Elohim, show it let me see? MUST YOU LIE? Are you trained in Islam on how to lie to make up your point? I ask ARE YOU SUPERIOR THAN YOUR FATHER AT HOME? You ceased to answer, none of my questions you've answered so far.. Anyways I won't condemn you rather I'll be praying for you. May God bless you the more
Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 10:23am On Jun 19, 2021
Empiree:
100 pages in order to prove if Jesus is God or not? grin cheesy fantastic cheesy

This is not love but ignorance and emotions. Let knowledge and wisdom prevail over ignorance and emotions.

My Lord is even more than 100 pages, in Quran the author of quran recognized Jesus more than Muhammad it is to shows that Jesus is highly exalted here on earth and in heaven, NO ONE IS LIKE HIM

You named the Love I have for my Lord as ignorance, I won't blame you, since you're a slave the meaning of God's love is nothing to you
Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 10:42pm On Jun 18, 2021
Empiree:
whether you answered my questions or not, this is what your problem is. Until you can unravel this confusion in christiandom, Bible will continue to be under microscope.









We live in a world where 2 + 2 = 5

Just as 1 + 1 +1 = 1

If you are confused

Who is god?, Jesus

Is Jesus the son of Mary?, Yes

Who created Mary?, God.

Who is God?, Jesus

Jesus is the begotten son., Yes

Who is his father?, God.

Who is God?, Jesus.

Jesus is a servant of God?, Yes

Who is God?, Jesus.

Jesus died on the cross?Yes

Who resurrected him?, God.

Who is God?, Jesus

Jesus is a messenger?, Yes

Who sent him?, God.

Who is God?, Jesus.

Did Jesus worship while on earth?, Yes

Whom did he worship?, God.

Who is God?, Jesus.

Did God have a beginning?, No

Then who was born on 25 DEC?, Jesus.

Who is God?, Jesus

Where's God?, In heaven

How many are there in heaven?, Only one God.

Where's Jesus?, He is sitted on the right hand of his father.

Who is God?, Jesus.

Then how many are they in heaven?, Only one God

Then how many seats?, One

Where's Jesus?, Seated next to God.

Then how are they seated?, On one chair

Its only understood by those with the holy spirit.

Who is God? Jesus.

Ha haha what a confusion.

So beautiful to be a Muslim.

Allah (SWT) have mercy on us all and grant us His straight path for us not to go astray



ifiok.john



Like I said earlier; if I want to tell you WHO JESUS CHRIST IS, 50 pages is not enough even 100 pages not enough to talk about him. I Love Jesus Christ so much, he is my husband, my father, my saviour, his name is numerous
Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 10:34pm On Jun 18, 2021
ThatFairGuy1:
Advocat.ejare asked so many questions from me I answered, when it was my turn to ask him JUST one, he refused and keep giving flimsy excuses.

Lemme ask you different question from that as I wanted him Only to answer my question.

Which of these Bible verses is correct and which is wrong.

1. Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. —2 Kings 24:8

2. Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem… —2 Chronicles 36:9

Sharonloveth, you shouldn't be for only insult Everytime, bail this man out. Which is correct

Whom did I insulted? Proof it pls. Thanks and God bless
Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 10:26pm On Jun 18, 2021
Empiree:
Damn! This is what I'm talking about. This is what I wanted to hear from you. Now you are bold enough to say it instead of going in cycle all the time.

So Jesus is God. Fantastic!

That means Jesus created the world?. Only God can create the world. So now that "Jesus is God", who is the Father that Jesus is talking about below?



"I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me" John 8:18



Even detailed here in the next verse



"The Father who sent Me has Himself testified about Me. You have not heard His voice at any time, and you haven't seen His form" John 5:37

We all know that Father means God. So there is no need to waste time on that. My question is, Father mentioned in these verses is same as Jesus or different entity?



actually this question is perfectly in line with this subject at hand.



I'm sorry, I don't recall your question. You are free to ask again

Jesus Christ didn't placed himself above his father, Jehovah, Yahweh, Elohim. If I should ask you, are you superior more than your own father at home?


Empiree:

I'm sorry, I don't recall your question. You are free to ask again


You don't recall my questions but I recall your own questions and answered them thoroughly. It shows you are a hypocrite, I won't condemn you since allah gave you instructions to always consult we Christians when you're confused. God bless you
Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 10:18pm On Jun 18, 2021
Empiree:
okay..I must have skipped that by mistake. Good God created Mary. So who's Jesus, God or man?.

Don't tell me you answered this already and please don't come up with blood, water, spirit etc. Answer is yes or no. Is Jesus God?

God bless you for accepting that you made mistake but next time don't just overlook try and read, it will help youThanks.. As I did for the question you asked about Mary I will do the same, but try scrolling up, read the little I wrote about Jesus Christ. I gave that short explanation based on your question. If I want to talk on WHO IS JESUS CHRIST, 50 pages won't be enough to do so here but scroll up as I said and read the little I said about him base on your first question.

When are you going to answer my questions?

Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 10:01pm On Jun 18, 2021
Empiree:
grin grin see another fraud. This is talking about Jesus?. Jesus story is NT Wetin concerned Daniel and Jesus shocked.

The verse you quoted has nothing to do with Jesus at all. I haven't seen any biblical exegesis that related this with Jesus. You are so funny. Okay let's assume it is talking about Jesus. This is the verse


After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

It is talking about some demons in succession. So Jesus was part of the demon, I guess.



Yes. In all the 10 commentaries I read about this verse only one tried to relate it with "blood of Jesus". It doesn't take PhD to realize this attempt was fraudulent grin



So who are we to believe now?. You and SharonLoveth are trying to prove Jesus is equal to God. One of you even said he's God. Now you are contradicting yourself. You guys are confusionists. You are not confident in your doctrine. Maybe you need to read yourself and SharonLoveth's posts and you get to see that you guys are claiming Jesus is God or equal to God. That's why I asked clear cut question but none of you answered.




See again grin here you said again Jesus is God grin . God forbid 8 can never be Christian. See confusion. Okay let's do it this way.

Who is Jehovah?

Who is Yahweh?

Who is God?

Who is Jesus?

Are these 4 entities same person or 4 different beings?






If you want to quote my Monika, pls do base on what I tagged you with...

WHERE DID I SAID JESUS IS EQUAL TO Jehovah, Yahweh, Elohim? I only told you Jesus Christ is God with proofs from Biblical references. WHY LYING? IS THAT WHAT YOU GAIN from allah and Muhammad to be lying?

Are you asking me who is Jehovah, Yahweh, etc? YOU HAVE SHIFTED THE GOAL POST AS USUAL?

Try to answer my questions, stop using unacceptable tactics to escape them or better still, just accepted the fact that you're a failure
Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 2:28pm On Jun 18, 2021
Empiree:
ain't got time for any analysis. Spirit is a vague word used to describe different unseen entities. Spirit is used for Angels, Jinns, UFOs and for human soul after death. It depends on how it is used and in the context it is used. What is infused (ruh) in the womb of mother during pregnancy was the same spirit of God breathed in Mary that gave life to Jesus(p).

So the question you refused to answer point blank is, Is Jesus God?. If so, who created Mary?

You're an author of CONFUSION, were you sleeping when typing? You said We can't see angels not until I shown you how Muhammad had a physical contact with Angel Jibril before readjusting your initial claims.

On Mary, how many times am I going to answer that? Or you're using this tactics to avoid answering my questions?

Religion / Re: The Only Country In The World Without A Single Church by SharonLoveth(f): 1:00pm On Jun 18, 2021
Lukuluku69:


I am not avoiding your question. In fact I have the answer to it like 30 years ago.

But would you accept it? I think not. So, let us rest it.

Between the word Masih which was translated to Messiah simply means ANOINTED. And every Prophet of God are all anointed.

Like I said, you won't accept my explanation. So let us rest it.

Did I asked for the meaning of Messiah? You are just shifting the goal post.

if all prophets were anointed, who anoints Muhammad as prophet and where is it written that Muhammad was anointed as a prophet?
Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 6:17am On Jun 18, 2021
I don't think you know what you're saying at times; this is what you said about Angels

Empiree:


I have explained to you what spirit means. Spirit is something we can not see at anytime. For example, Angels. Angels are spiritual beings.

You gave angels as an example of spiritual beings we can't see, read your posts over and over before pressing submitting button
Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 5:59am On Jun 18, 2021
Empiree:
all three na waste of time. Simple question you can't answer. We haven't even got to other stuff you wrote yet.

Word of God
Spirit of God etc are not evidence of divinity of Jesus. Same phrases are used for other humans.


Simpl question is,

Is Jesus God?. Answer is Yes or No ?.

Who created Mary?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH3Lrz9EwQQ



YOU HAVE SHIFTED THE GOAL POST, that's what you're known for

This is your initial question in quote, did you asked if Jesus Christ is God?

This is your question in qoute:

"Let's see who's in doubt since you alleged QUR'AN tells us to ask you. So I am in doubt about Jesus whether he's a spirit or God, or son of God or human being and Prophet. I'm not sure. Can you please tell me who is Jesus?. I believe he's human being and a prophet but I'm not sure. Can you tell us identity of Jesus to clarify my doubt?"

That won't stop me from answering you.

Jesus Christ, our Messiah is God. Here are the proofs:

1. John 10:30 The Father and I are one.

2. John 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

3. Philippians 2:5-6 You must have the same
attitude that Christ Jesus had. Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.

4. Colossians 2:9-10 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily. and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority.

Jesus claimed to be God.

5. John 10:33 “We are not stoning you for any
good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”

6. John 5:18 This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him , because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.

Empiree:


Word of God
Spirit of God etc are not evidence of divinity of Jesus. Same phrases are used for other humans.


But I asked you to name any other person that is been called "WORD OF GOD, SPIRIT OF GOD and MESSIAH" you did as if you don't see the question.


How many times am I going to tell you who created Mary, did you have any problem reading my texts? Go back and read all over again, I've answered you already. GOD CREATED MARY I even gave you Biblical proof
Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 10:31pm On Jun 17, 2021
Empiree:
I am aware of Christian tricks very well and it is not gonna get you anywhere.

The first QUR'AN you quoted says warned you


O People of the Book! Do not transgress the limits of your religion.


It goes further to say


"The Messiah, Isa (Jesus) the son of Maryam (Mary) was no more than a messanger of Allah"



It clarified identity of Jesus in the next statement


"and His [God] Word "Be" which He bestowed on Maryam and a Spirit from Him (which took the shape of a child in her womb.)


The word from God is called "Divine Command" or "Creative Power" which God said into something, "Be, and it is". And the verse also said "spirit from God". This is ruh which God infuses on every human being. The same spirit was bestowed upon Adam (p). The same spirit is bestowed upon every human being. Does that make us God, son of God or spirit?.. this is why QUR'AN says


Verily, the likeness of 'Iesa (Jesus) before Allah is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: "Be!" - and he was. 3:59

So obviously there is nothing special except that he created him without father and created Adam without any parents. With this, it is clear that Jesus is human being.


"Spirit from God* is the same spirit infused in every human being. Quran gives us process of human created in stages and God's spirit placed inside our mothers womb.. it is the Gods breathe in us that gave us life. In that case why don't you call every human "spirit of God"as well?.


Verily We created man from a product of wet earth; then placed him as a drop (of seed) in a safe lodging; then We fashioned the drop into a clot, then We fashioned the clot into a little lump, then We fashioned the little lump into bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, and then produced it another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators!” [23:12-14]


And when I have proportioned him and breathed into him of My spirit, then fall down to him in prostration." (15:29 and 38:72).


The same goes for every human. Spirit (life being) breathed into the foetus at 120 days. It is the same spirit from God like Jesus. Even someone died or killed, some say "his spirit" is around, his spirit is bothering me etc. So why don't you call average human spirit as well?.

Jesus was a man, a prophet and a messanger. So going by your logic, Adam and every human being are also benefactors in those Ayah of Quran you quoted


Adam and mankind are spirit according to Q4:171

Adam and mankind are human and sons of God Q3:47

The only difference between human beings, Adam and Jesus is Jesus and Adam are prophets. Interestingly, you said Quran implored Muslims to ask you but you returned to the same Quran for your answers. I have explained to you what spirit means. Spirit is something we can not see at anytime. For example, Angels. Angels are spiritual beings. So Jesus could not be spirit.

Again, is Jesus God or man?. This is your answer below.






Who created Mary?. You see your confusion now?

if you read and understand the Qur'an, you won't be displaying ignorance about the divinity of Jesus.

1. Qur'an tells you that Jesus is the Word of God

2. Quran also tells you that Jesus is the Spirit (Ruh) from God.

Is your word and your spirit not part of you?


Muhammad was not the spirit of God but he was rather possessed by demons

Sahih Muslim 2814:
Abdullah b. Mas'ud reported that Allah's Messenger ( ﷺ ) said:
There is none amongst you with whom is not an attache from amongst the jinn (devil). They (the Companions) said: Allah's Messenger, with you too? Thereupon he said: Yes, but Allah helps me against him and so I am safe from his hand and he does not command me but for good.[/b] "He will bring justice to the nations of the world" : Even Muslisms agree that Jesus is the one that is comingbback to the world as a just ruler

You're even comparing Jesus to Adam and other human beings. Let me ask you, IS THEIR ANYONE DEAD OR ALIVE been born of a Virgin womb Aside Jesus Christ? IS THEIR ANYONE that ever died, resurrected and alive till today aside Jesus Christ? The answer is NO.

Can you show where it is written that Jesus Christ was created from dust?

You said we cannot see Angels, but Muhammad saw Jibril twice “in the form that he was created” and on other occasions as a man resembling Dihyah ibn Khalifah al-Kalbi"

You are an author of CONFUSION, you lack basic understanding of Quran and ahadith


About the creation of man this is what Qur'an says:

Quran 96:2

“We Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood,”

Quran 15:26

“We created man from sounding clay, from mud molded into shape"

Quran 16:4

“He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer"

Quran 3:59

“The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: “Be”. And he was,”

Where did you get your own version of the quran?

You asked who created Mary? What a novice question

Genesis 1:26

Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."


Pls endeavour to read my texts and answer the questions therein as I have answered yours

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Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 7:12pm On Jun 17, 2021
Empiree:
Jesus was God, son of God(human being) or spirit?.

Question is simple now. We don't have problem with Quran. Jesus was a complete human being according to QUR'AN. Now, over to you. Who is Jesus?.

I haven't even delved in other rubbish you wrote yet. You are already choking on this one

This is your question in qoute:

"Let's see who's in doubt since you alleged QUR'AN tells us to ask you. So I am in doubt about Jesus whether he's a spirit or God, or son of God or human being and Prophet. I'm not sure. Can you please tell me who is Jesus?. I believe he's human being and a prophet but I'm not sure. Can you tell us identity of Jesus to clarify my doubt?"

This is the answer to your question


1. Jesus Christ is the SPIRIT OF GOD; read Quran 4:171a

"O People of the Book (the Jews and the Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against God, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, is only a messenger of God and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit from Him;

2. Jesus Christ is the WORD OF GOD; Quran 4:171a

"O People of the Book (the Jews and the Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against God, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, is only a messenger of God and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit from Him;


3. He Came inform of a human as he was born of a virgin; Quran 3:47

She said: “O my Lord, how shall I have a son while no human has ever touched me?” Said He: “That is how Allah creates what He wills. When He decides a matter, He simply says to it ‘Be’, and it comes to be.

4. Jesus Christ is A Prophet; Quran 5:75a

The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a prophet;

5. Jesus Christ is Son of God; John 1:34

And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.


JESUS CHRIST IS ALL WHAT YOU SAID, He came in form of a man born of virgin womb, Jesus Christ is God, Jesus Christ is spirit of God. Jesus Christ is Messiah, Jesus Christ is Alpha and Omega, Jesus Christ is the word of God, just name anything you think Jesus Christ is I will back it up for you from Quran and Holy Bible

How did you still want me to answer your question with all the proofs from the Quran?

Or you don't use to read those verses from the Qur'an? Or you intentionally wave those quranic verses because you're not please with them? Endeavor to stop arguing blindly, make your Quran your friend, read it day and night. This is the only advice I can give you..

GOD BLESS YOU, BYE FOR NOW
Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 4:15pm On Jun 17, 2021
Empiree:
Let's see who's in doubt since you alleged QUR'AN tells us to ask you. So I am in doubt about Jesus whether he's a spirit or God, or son of God or human being and Prophet. I'm not sure. Can you please tell me who is Jesus?. I believe he's human being and a prophet but I'm not sure. Can you tell us identity of Jesus to clarify my doubt?


You asked a wonderful and good questions, I will use both Quran and Bible to answer your question. This is what Allah wants you to be doing often and always

1. Jesus Christ is the SPIRIT OF GOD; read Quran 4:171a

"O People of the Book (the Jews and the Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against God, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, is only a messenger of God and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit from Him;

2. Jesus Christ is the WORD OF GOD; Quran 4:171a

"O People of the Book (the Jews and the Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against God, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, is only a messenger of God and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit from Him;


3. He Came inform of a human as he was born of a virgin; Quran 3:47

She said: “O my Lord, how shall I have a son while no human has ever touched me?” Said He: “That is how Allah creates what He wills. When He decides a matter, He simply says to it ‘Be’, and it comes to be.

4. Jesus Christ is A Prophet; Quran 5:75a

The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a prophet;

5. Jesus Christ is Son of God; John 1:34

And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

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Politics / Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 9:09am On Jun 16, 2021
Empiree:

This doesn't prove any unique quality. This is not attempt to undermine Jesus(p). I am just telling you that each prophet and messanger has their unique attributes with God that others dont have. Abraham is called friend of God and father of faith. Jesus doesnt have this qualities. Prophet muhammad is granted power of intercession. Jesus desnt have this. Moses spoke to God face to face but Jesus doesnt have this. Moses speaks to God face to face is more credible by common sense than sitting at the right hand of God.

You can't undermine Jesus Christ, even in your Quran Jesus is highly exalted, praised more than Muhammad that's enough to let you know that Jesus is not just an ordinary person you can undermine. I was just wondering the reason why allah failed to reckon with Muhammad more than Jesus in the book that was given to Muhammad. This is dirty blow on you all Muslims world-wide.

Jesus Christ is called the spirit of God, word of God, Messiah both in Quran and Bible, NO OTHER PERSON EVER GIVING THESE LOVELY UNIQUE ATTRIBUTES, maybe if there is any tell me? Even Muhammad never has these unique attributes. Just wondering why allah can't even recognized his own messenger Muhammad as his own word from him, Messiah, the spirit of him rather given those attributes to Jesus Christ alone.

Do you know what Intercession is all about? You said Muhammad was given power of intercession which Jesus didn't has, I smiles. Whom does Muhammad intercede for? Is muhammad more than the Messiah? Even in Quran it's written that muhammad cannot intercede for sinners

Sura At-Taubah (9), verse 80

“Ask forgiveness for them, or do not ask forgiveness for them (it will be equal). If thou (O Muhammad) ask forgiveness for them seventy times, God will by no means forgive them.”

Quran itself said Muhammad is NOT an Intercessor so where did you get your own lies that Muhammad was an intercessor?

This is what Bible says about Jesus Christ as our intercessor

Romans 8:34

It is Christ Jesus that died, yea rather, that was raised from the dead, who is at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Empiree:


Before you were born, and before your parent conceived you, where do you think you were?. You were existing in your fathers groin in spiritual realm with God. And I have told you before and will say it again that if you want to learn bible, come to Muslims. We will teach you bible. Now read,

You won't stop amazing me, thank God I am no more in Nigeria where you'll be looking for me to be killed.

Where is it written that Christians should come to you for teaching on Holy Bible?

Behold another slap allah gaveth you Muslims by degrading you guys to mere nothing by giving you a warm instructions to seek for knowledge from Christians

Surah Yunus 10:94

So if you are in doubt, about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.

Allah sees you guys as doubters, clueless and unbelievers. Is that not another dirty slap?


Empiree:


1. Jeremiah had a premortal existence. Through revelation the prophet Jeremiah learned something about the preexistence of his own soul. The Lord spoke to him and said, “Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.” (Jer. 1:5.)




2. Job had a premortal existence. On one occasion the Lord asked the prophet Job, “Where was thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

“When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?” (Job 38:4, 7.)


"Now although the Lord didn’t tell Job where he was before the foundations of the earth were laid, the very question implies that Job was in existence somewhere—and not only Job but “all the sons of God.” And when we recall that the Bible teaches that we are the sons of God (“the offspring of God” is the way the apostle Paul phrases it in Acts 17:29), we can’t help but conclude that we were in existence with Job (and Jeremiah and the Lord Jesus Christ) before the earth was created."






Oh you think uran said so? Quran doesnt say Moses spoke to God face to face. Your Bible did.


"The Lord would speak to Moses face to face, as one speaks to a friend. Then Moses would return to the camp, but his young aide Joshua son of Nun did not leave the tent." Exodus 33:11

Even Jacob wrestled with God and defeated God cheesy grin Genesis 32:22-32




FALSE! This contradicts your bible. Exodus 33:20 says no one can see God

"you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live."


Quran also says

"Vision perceives Him not, but He perceives [all] vision; and He is the Subtle, the Acquainted."Q6:103




I already showed you from your bible that Job and Jeremiah preexisted.




If I should ask you again what Mortal is all about will you answer? If the verses you qouted giving you issues we'll explain further to you, Jeremiah and Job had NO premortal existence as you claimed. Read those verses you posted again NO where it's written they both had premortal existence pls be guided unto the right path and refute not to be brainwashed by your leaders in islam.

One major thing that's affecting you guys in Islam is LACK OF SPIRITUALISM. God is Spirit and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. John 4:24

Had it been allah is spirit, all these shouldn't have befall you Muslims.

Pls accept my apology if I offended you in anyways. God bless you
Celebrities / Re: Yung Bleu Visits Nigeria, Says “Na Lagos I Dey” (Video) by SharonLoveth(f): 4:29pm On Jun 15, 2021
I pray they won't kidnap you for ransome

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