ahmedio2017:




Lolzzzzzzzz stop misquoting Quran

6:14

Say, "Is it other than Allah I should take as a protector, Creator of the heavens and the earth, while it is He who feeds and is not fed?" Say, [O Muhammad], "Indeed, I have been commanded to be the first [among you] who SUBMIT [to Allah ] and [was commanded], 'Do not ever be of the polytheists ' "


SO WHERE IS THE FIRST MUSLIM HERE

He was referring to his people qurashi.

I gave you six different versions of the Quran where Muhammad was admitted as the first Muslim on earth, you came in with another version telling me that I misquoted the quran.

Firstly, those versions I wrote out were they written by Sharon? Secondly, if you didn't lack comprehensive skill which I knew you lacked, will you tell me the different with all the versions I posted for you to yours that is not misquoted?


This is the definition you gave for the term Muslim

ahmedio2017:


Muslim comes from the Arabic language which means a person who surrendered to God

Is there any different between SURRENDER and SUBMIT?

From your own version, it says SUBMIT which means Muhammad was the FIRST Muslim, why? Because he was the first human to SUBMIT/SURRENDER himself to his god

What I noticed you lack is comprehensive ability to understand simple sentence and meaning of SURRENDER and SUBMIT

Those engaging you are really doing a great job, you are worthless to have been using a browsing phone talk more of engaging sane people on internet with the way you argue blindly

I will advice you to go back to school and be fully well educated!

If because of the question I asked you (Is Muhammad the founder of islam a Jewish) made you ridiculing yourself in this manner as you couldn't answer for the sake of been exposed further, why not just look away rather than telling me I posted misquoted various versions of quran that in contexts not different from yours. THOSE ENGAGING YOU ON NL. ARE DOING A GREAT JOB!

I dont think you are a Muslim for asking me this foolish question or should we say you ain't attended Quranic school in your entire life?

ahmedio2017:



Where does Quran says Muhammad is the first Muslim

(Muhammad), ask them, "Should I take a guardian other than God, the Originator of the heavens and the earth, who feeds everyone and who needs no food Himself?" Say, "I have been commanded to be the first Muslim (submitted to the will of God). Thus, people, do not be pagans." (Quran 6:14 Muhammad Sarwar)



Say: ´Am I to take anyone other than Allah as my protector, the Bringer into Being of the heavens and the earth, He who feeds and is not fed?´ Say: ´I am commanded to be the first of the Muslims,´ and, ´Do not be among the idolaters.´ (Quran 6:14 Aisha Bewley)



Say (O Muhammad SAW): "Shall I take as a Walee (helper, protector, etc.) any other than Allah, the Creator of the heavens and the earth? And it is He Who feeds but is not fed." Say: "Verily, I am commanded to be the first of those who submit themselves to Allah (as Muslims)." And be not you (O Muhammad SAW) of the Mushrikoon (polytheists, pagans, idolaters and disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah).. (Quran 6:14 Muhsin Khan & Muhammad al-Hilali)


Say: ‘Should I take any but God for my Protector? Creator of the heavens and the earth, He gives nourishment to all and is nourished by none.‘ Say: ‘I was commanded to be the first of the Muslims. You shall serve no other god besides Him.‘ Quran 6:14 N J Dawood (2014)


Say, “Shall I take for myself a guardian other than Allah, the Originator of the heavens and the earth, He Who feeds and is not fed?” Say, “I have been commanded to be the first of those who become Muslims,” and do not ever be of the polytheists. (Quran 6:14 Fadel Soliman, Bridges‘ Translation)


And I am commanded to be the first of those who are muslims (surrender unto Him).” (Qur’an 39:11-12 Pickthall)

When will you answer this or you still want to use question to answer question?


Is Muhammad the founder of islam a Jewish?

Kobojunkie:
Interesting! Continue then.

Take your ignorant else where. Joke of the century, Abraham is not the founder of Judaism. I laugh at your stupidity

ahmedio2017:



Maybe you should use your search tools for a better results,


The word Muslim comes from the Arabic language which means a person who surrendered to God.

Judaism believed in oneness of God
ISLAM believed in oneness of God

The aforementioned prophets, didn't surrendered to God?

Because they surrendered to God and also believed in oneness of God make them a Muslim....

Even those worshipping god of thunder believe in oneness of God

The question goes thus again and don't forget to answer!

Is Muhammad the founder of islam a Jewish?

Prophets of those days practiced JUDAISM none of them worshipped the stone of kaaba.

Your quran says MUHAMMAD WAS THE FIRST MUSLIM so what make Abraham, Jacob, Moses, Jesus Christ Muslims when Muhammad was the first Muslim on earth?


Judaism, monotheistic religion developed among the ancient Hebrews. Judaism is characterized by a belief in one transcendent God who revealed himself to Abraham, Moses, and the Hebrew prophets and by a religious life in accordance with Scriptures and rabbinic traditions. Judaism is the complex phenomenon of a total way of life for the Jewish people, comprising theology, law, and innumerable cultural traditions.

Kobojunkie:


What instead God established with Abraham was a Covenant, A Law, not a religion? Religion is not a Law and is not based on a Law. And the Law that God gave to the people of Israel, all 12 tribes of Israel, was a National Constitutional Law, not a religion or an idea that would be confused as such. Try to understand the meaning of what you read.

Did I said God founded Judaism? Are you really okay at all.. Go back and read everything I pasted

Kobojunkie:

The term Judaism originates, not from Abraham, but from the Nation of Judah which came into being after the original nation of Israel was split up into two nations after the death of Solomon. The nation of Judah consisted of 3 of the 12 tribes of Israel — Judah, Benjamin, and Levi.

The term Judaism originated from your dad if not Abraham right?

Engaging you is a waste of time and energy.. You have Britannica that you can access through google, ask google the founder of Judaism!

Kobojunkie:


You are not paying attention at all. Abraham, Moses, and all the other Prophets did not practice any religion. What they did was simple and that was that they obeyed God's Law. Obedience of God's Law is not religion and Religion is not of God.

Why would I pay attention to the gullibility you're vomiting?

Is Judaism not a religion developed among the ancient Hebrew originated with the biblical patriarch Abraham (approx 1800 BCE). Abraham established a covenant with God that was confirmed with the reception of the Torah (the Law including the Ten Commandments) from God through Moses to the Jewish people at Mount Sinai?

You like to argue blindly, stupidly here on nairaland!

Kobojunkie:

2. You did your research and the article informed you that the religion called Judaism which you know today began around the 4th-6th century BC period which is around the period of the exile and after of the Jews of Judah. The Nation of Israel which was destroyed before then— 720BC — did not have such a religion. Open your eyes to see what is right before you!

You see where you missed it guy, am I talking of modern day Judaism? Please can you get the fcck away from here

Kobojunkie:
I see now that I am trying to engage someone who does not even care to acknowledge any of the facts at all. The following is taken right from the same article which you quoted from.
The religion you know of today as Judaism began after the first fall of Jerusalem back in 586 BC.

Why would you said they didn't practice Judaism when Judaism a monotheistic religion developed among the ancient Hebrews.

Kobojunkie:
I

They didn't practice Judaism. Rather, Judaism came about during the time

Incase of next time, do your research before propagating what is called nonsense

Kobojunkie:
They didn't practice Judaism. Rather, Judaism came about during the time the people of Judah where taking into exile in the land of Babylon. There they saw how Nebuchadnezzar installed and willed power over his people as though a god. When the Jews returned they came back with the idea of religion and so set out to insert themselves as administrators and middlemen between the God of their fathers and the people of Judah. That is how Judaism was brought back from Babylon to Jerusalem around 545 - 400BC.

God of Israel hates religion - Ezekiel 34 vs 1 - 31.. Jesus Christ disavowed religion and its every doctrines and traditions. Jesus Christ condemned Judaism and its leaders during His time. Surely, you can see how Jesus Christ cannot then accept Christianity, a religion modelled after Judaism and any other offshoots of the same. Religion is the antichrist system described as the beasts by John in his book of visions and dreams, The book of Revelations.

Guy you are too daft..


Judaism, monotheistic religion developed among the ancient Hebrews. Judaism is characterized by a belief in one transcendent God who revealed himself to Abraham, Moses, and the Hebrew prophets and by a religious life in accordance with Scriptures and rabbinic traditions. Judaism is the complex phenomenon of a total way of life for the Jewish people, comprising theology, law, and innumerable cultural traditions.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Judaism


You can't just come online and be typing nonsense!

ANTllSLAAM:


No mind them, even animal according to one of there hadith na muslim

This is craziness on the path of Muslims

ahmedio2017:



What is Judaism?
And what is the meaning of Muslim?
What is the differences between Judaism and Islam?

Judaism is an Abrahamic, monotheistic, and ethnic religion. It comprises the collective spiritual, cultural, and legal traditions of the Jewish people, having originated as an organized religion in the Middle East during the Bronze Age.

Muslim is a follower of the religion of Islam. Is Muhammad the founder of islam a Jewish?

ahmedio2017:




I don't have energy to stress my self this morning

If those aforementioned prophets are not Muslims what are they?

What is the name of their religion? CHRISTIANITY?

Stop fooling yourself OGA.

They were all Muslims including Jesus Christ PBUH, perhaps you don't know the meaning of Muslim?

They pracitsed Judaism.. Nothing like islam or Muslim when they are on earth so stop fooling yourself boy

They are Muslims that never recognized allah as God, they are Muslims that never performed pilgrimage to mecca, they are Muslims that never bow for kaaba, they are muslim that never proclaimed shahada right, they are muslims that never observed five pillars of islam isn't it?

So what make them Muslims without all the above?

ahmedio2017:




That's why I said you lack understanding bro... You have a lot to learn and unlearn honestly....

Now let me come down to your level...

God have only one religion (ISLAM) which simply means submission to the will of God.
Now there are numerous laws, guidance and constitutions which is known as books of God. What are these books TORAH and injeel, and Quran....

All the prophets of God are all Muslims, they all preaches oneness of God. They all have the same mission but with different laws and dimensions that's why there is always amendment. Understood?
Before Moses there were prophets of God before him isn't it?

Now when the Jesus Christ PBUH came what did he said?

He said I didn't come to ABOLISHED the LAWS but to AMEND it..... Each prophets of God came with AMENDMENT the last prophet which is Muhammad s.a.w was the one who perfected the religion of God (ISLAM) no more prophet.......

Now it is hypocrisy that is affecting you guys why did you believed in Jesus and refuse Muhammad? Did you met anyone of them? Is it not what they have been telling you about those prophet that you believed? Why not make a thorough research about Christianity and ISLAM....

God or Jesus didn't recognize Christianity it is a religion of Man (Paul) and not Jesus or God... Did Jesus made mention of anything Christianity? Or Trinity? You have to ask yourself a lot of fundamental questions....

Point of correction, your allah was a Muslim. God of Moses, Abraham, Issac, is not a Muslim or lover of islam. God never constituted any religion, he never told us to follow a certain religion, all he said is to serve him and never bow for any idol or stone as you are doing in islam by bowing for Kaaba🕋 the stone in mecca

The reason Christians hate Muhammad was because of his atrocities against humanity and Christendom at large. Muhammad never lived a holiness life, Muhammad was full of sinful life when he was alive. Muhammad was a killer, he hates Christians, he never shown love to Christians while he was alive and that was the major reason why a Jewess lady poisoned him to dead

Everything about Nigeria is bloody

Funny

ANTIlSLAM:


How come you escape primary school?

Dsimmer:


Lmao.

Only deranged fools believe such asinine stuff.

Well, Mohammed the paedophilic useless terrorist knows next to nothing except sex and terrorism.

But our Muslims brothers ready to die because of 72 virgins

Omoawoke2:


You find this ridiculous right, but there you are doing the same thing by defending TB Joshua. You are same thing

How does 72 virgings in Paradise has to with Ajoke or is Ajoke among the 72 virgins to be rewarded with in Paradise

Rayban26:


Israelis are not terrorists. They wont do what Hamas did.

Did I said Israeli 🇮🇱 are terrorists?

Omoawoke2:



You keep on repeating the same lies over and over again to reassure yourself that your god called TB Joshua is genuine.

Take heart bro, it’s not easy to face reality face to face. TB Joshua is a man like you, how he owns your brain is still amazing.

Must you insult before making your point?

ANYONE FOLLOWING MUHAMMAD IS A POTENTIAL TERRORIST

Why not cried when Hamas killed and beheaded Israelis Children and babies? Don't be hypocrite

Rayban26:


Israelis are not terrorists. They wont do what Hamas did.

Did I said Israelis are terrorists?

Hamas terrorist members are living with Palestinians people, why are they hidden them? Why not reporting them to appropriate authority outside Palestinian territory

Rayban26:


If they start bombing innocent civilians now you'll still be crying that Israelis are not considerate. Can they ever satisfy some of you?

What is this one saying? You better read my statements again

People that you ought to bomb to ashes, do they give Israelis warning before bombing them?

Sorry to have quoted you, using the word sacred is good BUT

Is bowing for a stone sacred in Islam?
Is worshiping a black stone, kissing the black stone, etc sacred?
Is marrying a toddler sacred, a case study of their prophet?
Is having sex in Islamic paradise sacred?
Is killing and terrorizing the peace of a nation through the Islamic terrorist groups sacred?
Is fighting for God sacred?
Is fighting people for not accepting their religion sacred?

YelloweWest:
I'm a Christian but one thing I love about Islam, whether you like it or not you must respect what Islam holds sacred!

What a shame!