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franchasofficia:
Good. From this post, it then means that Ooni of Ife that told the story before me and others that fateful day doesn't know the history of Ile Ife because he directed the story to us Igbos as a way of telling us that we are welcomed in Ile Ife, that we should feel at home that Ile Ife remains our home where our ancestors once lived thousand years ago.



So who do we believe now?


These distortions and history discrepancies could be the reason the authors of the said book wrote what they wrote cos after I listened to that story by the Ooni, I took it hook line and sinker ever since then and always remembered the Moremi story any day any time cos it was interesting and fun to hear.



But here you are bringing another angel to it, making me and many more confused, you see that we are not to blame but your kings and historians telling us different versions of whatever transpired in Ile Ife back then

Please refrain from connecting Yoruba and Igbo histories.. The historical record, including the Moremi story, points to the Ugbo people of Ondo State, not the Igbo, as the group involved. There’s no basis for claiming shared origins or significant historical ties between the Yoruba and Ibo, as both groups have distinct cultural, linguistic, and historical identities.

Nigeria’s colonial formation brought us together, not shared roots. Let’s respect each group’s history and avoid misrepresentation.

Thank you.

franchasofficia:
No Igbo is claiming to be from Ile Ife abeg oh, you guys should get your facts correctly.


Ooni of Ife himself once told the history that ancient Igbos once lived in Ile Ife, they also told the story of how Igbos used to attack Ile Ife people to kidnap their people and take away their farm produce until Moremi helped them infiltrate the Igbo camp and ended the attacks. This is undiluted history from the custodian of Ile Ife culture not hearsay.


The best your fellow Yoruba brothers have done is to twist this story told by Ooni of Ife to mean Bush people (Igbo) as they claim and not the Igbo people of Southeast of today but I was present when Ooni told the story to us none Yorubas, mostly Igbos as a way of welcoming us to his palace and telling us that Ile Ife remains our home that our ancestors once lived here thousand years ago, but here are you uninformed Yoruba kids insulting Igbos because of your history you know nothing about, make Una continue, it doesn't change the history and facts

The claim that Igbos attacked Ile Ife until Moremi defeated them is historically inaccurate. The story of Moremi Ajasoro, a legendary Yoruba heroine, recounts her role in defending Ile Ife against the "Ugbo" people, not the Igbo.

The Ugbo, a distinct group, are primarily located in present-day Ondo State, Nigeria, particularly in the Ilaje and Ese-Odo areas. Historical accounts and oral traditions from the Yoruba, including those preserved at the Ooni’s Palace, identify the Ugbo as the adversaries in this context, not the Igbo.

There is no credible historical evidence linking the Igbo to attacks on Ile Ife or to Moremi’s story.The Igbo and Yoruba are two distinct ethnic groups with no shared cultural, linguistic, or historical roots beyond their coexistence within the modern Nigerian state.

The attempt to link Yoruba and ibo histories, such as through the Moremi narrative, often serves to create a false sense of shared identity

The Yoruba and Igbo share no common roots, and their histories were largely separate until Nigeria’s formation. The Moremi story pertains to the Ugbo of Ondo State, not the Igbo. Attempts to tie these groups together often reflect modern political agendas rather than historical reality.

Rest with this your propaganda.

Mbanda:
Have you asked yourself, why yorubas always boast with lagos? You can't see northerners boasting with Abuja and kano the way yorubas always do with lagos. This their unending boasting has made people to dig out the history of lagos, And now everybody knows that binis are the real owners of lagos not the yorubas.

So hausas now owned Abuja abi?

Anyways, Yorubas traditionally don't boast about Lagos until some individuals claim it as no man's land. When people assert that your land is unclaimed, what's the response? Stand idly by while they utter all sorts of nonsense?

MadamVanessa:


By default, they're so emotional and weak. That's the reason Fulanis butchers as many of them and chased them away from their land and instead of them to retaliate, they ran away to Benin republic, they cried and cried and beg, same Fulanis came back and claimed Illorin, banned their ancestral isese festival, all they do is to cry and become so emotional.

See how they're crying all over cyberspace because of what oba of Benin said, see how they're obsessed about the Igbos because they prosper than them in their land hence they hate the Igbos with passion and become so emotional because they can't measure up with the Igbo tribe.

Despite their brother being the number one citizen of the country, they so insecure. So much for them. I pity them seriously.

What tribe are you again?

Hendrixky:
Are the people of South west becoming to emotional and tribalistic


I thought they only do this when it comes to politics but it is now obvious that even the educated ones still don't know history
Even when the oba akiolu came out to say it years ago still these people still looking for ways to display thier emotional and tribalistic nature

Words like oshodin, Eko, idumota are all Bini words

Are they saying oba akiolu is stupid

Even akiolu says that one of the greetings the yorubas use in the Palace by raising up thier hand and also rubing their palm together 👏 is a way of showing respect to the Benin Palace

Regarding the bolded part, may I inquire about the Oba's statement? I'm eager to witness something and, in turn, share something with you. I await your response.

WeirdAlien:
Time travel is a phenomena suggested in different ways.
One is to travel to another timeline in the universe. E.g. go back to a past timeline, or go forward into the future. (e.g. Terminator Movie).
Another form is time dilation through space travel. For instance, it is theorized (Einstein) that if you travel at the speed of light for a few minutes, or through a wormhole, hundreds of years might have passed on earth! (e.g. Planet of Apes movie).

Let's get into our story.
At a time on earth, there was a great famine that shook the whole world. Rain ceased for several years. A congress was held, divination was made by the Ifa priest. A sacrifice must be made to Eledumare, the supreme being. But after being prepared, this sacrifice must be taken to heaven by someone.
And that's the problem. It wasn't known if anybody who went to heaven could return back to this world, so nobody wants to carry the sacrifice. Just before all hope was lost, the Vulture volunteered himself. Although he hoped to return, if he didn't, he would have sacrificed himself too.
So the vulture took the sacrifice to heaven - it took him 7 days to get to heaven and present the sacrifice, and another 7 days to travel back. All of the journey was in-between heaven/earth, in the void.
The day he got back to earth, it was raining heavily and he was seriously beaten by rain.
To his dismay, many things have changed, he could not locate his own house. He knocked on several doors, but everyone kept slapping him him on the head and pushing him out back into the rain - no one recognized him, they were disgusted seeing him, he was short, his feathers soaked, dripping wet.

He eventually found himself at the palace. The King and Ifa priest were different people! When he explained himself, they realized he belonged to many generations ahead of that time. His journey of 14 days total was 1,400 years on earth! Apparently, every 1 day of his journey was 100 years on earth!
His legend had been passed generations down, the one who took sacrifice to heaven and never returned. It started raining normally on earth since the day he started his journey into the void. Eledumare answered their prayers the day the vulture departed the earth, and it particularly rained heavily on the anniversary of that day of every year.

Because of this sacrifice, the vulture is considered an untouchable bird in Yoruba culture. You don't kill the vulture. You don't eat the vulture. You don't do appeasement with the vulture. You don't sacrifice the vulture.

The existence of this folktale suggests Africans were not all about religion, but had indigenous science in the past.

The Yoruba time travel folklore you've shared is a fascinating example of how cultures incorporate scientific concepts into their myths and legends. It's intriguing how the story blends time dilation and space travel ideas with religious beliefs.
This narrative reflects a creative way of explaining the passage of time and the origin of cultural practices. It also demonstrates that historical cultures often had a deep understanding of their environment, combining science and spirituality to make sense of the world around them.
This Yoruba folklore highlights the richness and complexity of indigenous knowledge systems.

Interesting...

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Rest on, sire!

It is well with this generation.

MeetSamir:
Did you already pass these stage successfully, how did you do it?

What browser do you use and what trick did you employ?

Please share your experience with your fellow Nairalight.

Thank you!

sadiq4life:
The exact challenge I'm searching for its solution.
Please whoever has crossed that stage should update us.
Thanks.

Use Mozilla firefox browser, it works pretty fine. Good luck.

Thanks for the share brother

Am I scared? Naaah!

Damn it! I think I'm , but calm tho

luluman:
Where did you get your figure from? STOP SPREADING RUMOUR.

My thought on it too. I don't believe the figures.

I hope the authorities are not cooking all the numbers up for their selfish interest sha.

With time, I'll know if it's the real moneysoldier or not, lolz.

Obs(ing) tho

Time like this is meant for total relaxation with bae

Kada folks, come in!

achemajulius:
I strongly believe that there are good jobs in Kaduna but the information is hoard by some.please my KD people let's help ourselves.

You're not far from it! Kada folks, this thread needs to stay alive. Please do post any job openings, vacancy you come across. Jah bless.

Booked!

duduade:
pump

Pool

Timekeeper:
And he is yet to meet any ipobian flat head Nyamiri or nyamiras, what will bill gate Abi Clinton sef do with poto poto self developas sef when all they know is to do fake things


Bill, we yorubas are proud of our boy. He keep representing in good thing unlike my South East brothers that is using HIV to infect people

Bro, this is totally uncalled for. Why the the hate brother I'm a yoruba and I love ibos. West, East and South together we can do unimaginable things and achieve a lot. Let's keep hatred aside and embrace love Bro. Ibo Amaka...

lwkmd this guys got no joy man...........

Non negotiable Sad. So sad

Jacktheripper:
Blogging is dead. Whoever is still blogging in 2018 is wasting his/her time.

What makes blogging dead sir? Educate me please...