₦airaland Forum

You can't give what you don't have. With your propensity for wild assumptions & unverified claims it's going be pretty hard for you to sustain a sound and logical debate.

louken:
I don't argue with politicians and their data boys. It's waste of my time

louken:
You have described how an average Nigerian politician views poor Nigerians.
It's a pity.

You have said nothing.

Depends on who you ask .

For some:
Food - N25,000 per month (Dem no dey buy food outside, they cook)
Okada/Legedes Benz - N0 per month.
Utility Bill - N10,000 per month
Calls and Data - N4,000 (Almost 40% Nigerians use basic feature phones - no data)
Hospital bill for children - N0
Schools fees - N0 (for those with children in primary schools, still zero - school expenses N5,000 month)
House rent - N0 (Only about 50% of Nigerians live in rented accommodation outside of Lagos, Abuja & Port Harcourt, where you have up to 70% renters)
Minimum wage - Cannot be determined (Most are daily hustlers)

... and for some:

Food - N10m per month.
Fuel - N5m per month.
Utility Bills - N3m per month
Calls and Data - N2m
Hospital bill for children - N250,000 per month
Schools fees - N10m per month - pro-rated monthly
House rent - N0 (Multiple property owner)
Minimum wage - Are you serious?

louken:
How much is a plate of food at your location? How much is okada drop? How much do you pay as utility bill? How much do you spend on calls and data?
How much do you spend on hospital bill for your children (if you have)? How much do you pay as their school fees? How much is house rent at your location?


How much is minimum wage?

OlujobaSamuel:
Ti ọwọ ọmọde kọ bá tè eku ida, kó gbodò bere iku to pa bàbá ẹ̀ (if the hand of a child is yet to get hold of the sword handle , he should not ask for what killed his father)
You don't have control over your source of income, don't fight the person with the control

This na real ancient wisdom. No allow ego take you where you no wan go.

However, many of our people are sometimes too dramatic, unless she's crying crocodile tears for marketing purpose. She should get busy figuring out a solution and reaching out to YouTube on what to do.
*On another note, the publicity is also good for her. That's the reality of show business and content creation.

Feel free to pick holes in what I wrote, I will accept your superior argument.

hegelian:
you people can defend anything..even devil is sacred of you guys...

Feel free to debate with your personal perspective, inability to do that is the real tragedy. Don't hide behind fake outrage

Tooreda:
You see the person I share country with? God why naoh?

An average Nigerian does not buy food outside. That makes it a lot cheaper. Outside of Lagos and Abuja, we still have millions of Nigerians in other environment.

louken:
How much is a plate of food? How much per drop for okada or keke or bus?

I'm assuming an average Nigerian eats once in day.

This Omokri has started talking nonsense again.

Yes but until you got called out you only used minimum as your counter argument when he clearly mentioned average.

In Nigeria, organized labour is less than 8% of the population and that's where minimum wage applies. For example, a fish seller in Makoko mentioned earning at least N6k daily in profit, a bus conductor is also in that range as well as a pure water or ice block hustler.

This is not very straightforward without adequate data. It's all subjective and skewed.

Adonisty:
In statistics, average is one of the measure of central tendency and in a group of data, average or mean sometimes is close to the median. The others are just outliers which don't paint the reality of the data. So going by that, he is spilling nonsense.

Basic statistics.

Maximum, Average, Minimum, Mean, Median, Mode etc.

Average is not Minimum.

Adonisty:
Let's assume an verge Nigerian can survive on 3k as he said, in a month going by the minimum wage of 70k that's not enough and you'll be wallowing in debt of 30k. Make it make sense!

I wanted to make a post that this is an embarrassing article and an indictment on our basic communities in Nigeria, underlining why we are still backwards in many aspects of modern civilization, but I cautioned myself that every situation is a learning opportunity. Many will learn from the conversation.

We all know this, including our content creators but many of their supporters are not that sharp

Why is Nairaland contributing to dumbing down of Nigerian youths? Stop pushing illiterate contents to the front page.

The hunter don become the bush meat

Exactly. They are comedians, their candidates in Oyo, Ogun and Kwara States cannot win street landlord association election

VanuatuWycombe:
To have candidates is one thing; to win is another thing. The two are not related.

NDC can’t win any governorship or presidential elections. They have no core local presence, network, and machinery to coordinate well and win. They will only try.

Excellent achievement though academics is just one of many career paths available to university graduates.

Many could also be termed "professors" on the field as subject matter experts solving complex business problems in their respective organizations.

Some things don't require any preaching, people will learn from experience

Simple truth. Most people don't even know anything about their own great-grandparents & beyond. Even if they do, it's mostly of no use. It is useless memory of no real value.

Live your life, personal challenges come in different forms. Some people have their target number of children and were still alive when some of them died. Not anyone's desire but it's the reality of many people.

It's better to just keep moving in strong faith that all will be well or else if you think too much about the complexities of life you are not far off from suicide.

izzou:
It's not easy, walahi

I have made peace with the fact that in the next 150 to 200 years, nobody on earth will remember me (And it's the same for 99% of the population)

If you like born 5, if you like be single, we all will die and the farthest generation that would remember us would be our grandkids.

Everybody should live a little, in this short life we have

You forgot our debt forgiveness under OBJ...? That was the primary driver. All the gains of OBJ's debt forgiveness success driven by Okonjo-Iweala were largely eroded under GEJ.

Eriokanmi:
I am glad you could say this. Not only did he try,he had the best reserves performance ever, judging from where he met it and the fact that he was still paying subsidy and without making noise about it. The exchange rate was around 120 naira to 1USD also and the inflation was at the lowest ebb. Not only that, the minimum wage, when compared to what it is now, vis a vis the value of the naira, was higher during obj administration than it is now. Also, crude sales when obj was in power was much lower than what tinubu is enjoying today. In a normal term, tinubu ought to have done around 100bn usd to earn any credit. He's not even paying subsidy anymore according to him.

Content creators on the beat

The beauty of free and fair election.

Today, the President of Nigeria is Bola Ahmed Tinubu, the overall winner of the general election across the 36 states and the FCT - and quite frankly, that's all that matters in a general election

LagosOrigin:
Peter Obi disgraced your tinubu in Lagos in 2023 presidential election while atiku beat tinubu in Osun state where tinubu claimed he comes from ..

Which kind person go lose election in the two states that he claimed he comes from if not tinubu.

Tinubu should be grateful to wike for saving his wrinkled ass by rigging Rivers state which was how tinubu became president today

happney65:
Tinubu oniro deyy. Omo olode ide oniro.

You have no relationship with shehu. No dey throw us lamba for here. It is Atiku that is known worldwide as shehu's boy and that was one of the reason Obasanjo choose him as his vice out of respect to Shehu his former vice as Military President

No dey throw us lamba here abi you still think we are in the era of print media?


Hunnnn..

ARE YOU SURE?

Apart from what was mentioned in some of Atiku's biographies. Here is a quote from The Guardian Nigeria a few years ago - specifically on 29 May 2022 ......
Link: https://guardian.ng/politics/life-and-politics-of-atiku/:

"Political Career
Abubakar worked underground during Bamanga Tukur’s governorship campaign. Bamanga Tukur was the then managing director of the Nigeria Ports Authority. Thereafter, Atiku met Shehu Musa Yar’Adua, who was second-in-command of the military government that ruled Nigeria between 1976 and 1979. Yar’adua thereafter invited Atiku to the political meetings that holds regularly at his home. After sometime, Abubakar became the national vice-chairman of the People Front of Nigeria. The association was led by Yar’Adua and was in charge of ensuring the success of the transition programme started by Ibrahim Babangida, the then Head of State. Other politicians in the team were Babalola Borishade, Bola Tinubu, Rabiu Kwankwaso, Aliyu Sumaila and Sabo Bakin Zuwo."

The same politically does not mean identical. Who among them, with political track record, is different?

mindtricks:
One of the popular lies of the ruling party to dilute impact of those who stand out. They are not the same. Even your five fingers are not all the same. Suicide should not be a valid personal choice. Think.

They are all the same, don't allow anyone harrass you over your personal choice. Shikena!

Your juniors and mates are preparing to dazzle your village girls at Christmas while you are still an apprentice at Ladipo Market after 12 years yet you are here doing fruitless dick measuring online. Monopoly game money is not real money o, please get serious for your own good.

ogwumgbe:
You can only gaslight the gullible and not me, I expected you to use your usual mischievous term that Ooni of Ife was massaging our egos, that we are emotional haha, I know you people very well and can always treat your Bleep up, despite the British using You people and the Fulanis to hold Igbos down, yet we keep thriving, non can cover the sun bro, stop competing with us, we're not mates by any standard

Today's Nollywood was not started by Living in Bondage. That was someone's misconception taken as fact. It's not true.

However, it was the first real commercial success in the VHS home video era of Nigerian movies. That can never be denied.

ogwumgbe:
Mr just go and sit down, the contemporary Nigeria movie today known as Nollywood today started by the movie; living in bomdage that featured 99 percent Igbo actors and actresses such as Kenneth Okonkwo Daniel Onuigbo, Ichie million and the rest, followed by other block busters like glamour girls, that featured the likes of Dolly Unachukwu, and other hot stress,
Before arguing blindly, who coined the name Nollywood, is it Igbo or Yoruba? We don't compete with to you people ok, we set the pace and when you appear with your usual jealous coated competition, we quietly leave the stage for you,
Just like the modern Nigeria music making waves all over the world today was started by Psquare, you came with your usual envy filled competition and we left ok, leaving you to wallow in your illusionary competition, someone even claimed Egusi soup is not Igbo delicacy,haha, wonders shall never end, Igbos put Nigeria on the internal map and leave the stage when it becomes ladden with jealousy, now we are focused on prompting only igbo which is fast gaining international recognition
Which of your so called Netflix stars are known internationally in comparison with the likes of Osuofia and Mr Ibu? None knows your actors and actresses dear, Omotola you are bragging about came into limelight through the Igbo dominated movies, no need to educate you, Ogumde this Balogun that, what of the Igbo Production; the New masquerade that exposed Nigeria cinema to the world? We don't compete as I said, we create, then leave the stage when you crawl in with your snake poison jealosy

The thick skulls will never listen even though facts have been presented to them several times that they did not start home video version of Nollywood. Witnesses to the very beginning in the 80s are still very much alive.

My uncle with Nigeria Airways back then was an active investor behind the scene. Both traditional and home video Nollywood were started by the Yorubas. Even the original Surulere crew can't deny this.

CursedOsuPigs:
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He is not right. Yourubas had been making home videos right in the 80s before the Igbos even got wind of it. On record, the first home video movie made in Nigeria was made in 1988 - title was Soso Meji produced by Ade Ajiboye. This was followed quickly by Alade Aromire.

And you are wrong about limiting Hubert Ogunde pioneering status to only stage play. Aropin n'Teniyan (1979), Aiye (1980), Jaiyesinmi (1980), Ayanmo (1986) and so many others were cinema movies by Ogunde. Ajani Ogun (1976), Ija Ominira (1979), Kadara (1980), Ija Orogu (1982) were few of Ade Love's cinema movies.

Youruba had always been in Nollywood before the Igbos started at all. The only are of the movie industry the Igbos were prominent was in marketing with the Alaba factor and even that there were cases of piracy which affected the fortune of someone like Moses Olaiya's epic movie Orun Mooru in 1982.

All I have stated above can be researched on the Internet.

Which empire? When?

DonroxyII:
Protocol ni na ... Ooni manages an empire ... President manages a country(Conglomeration of Empires) ....

Nevertheless, Obasanjo na still CrazeCraze

Please always engage your brain before engaging with others. It's okay to be silent.

IamAtAnger:
For this same kogi?... wey I travel come lokoja from Lagos by road so? Thank God o

The mental distress this type of situation causes is unimaginable. Again, who are these wild animals in our midst??.

That is your personal headache. Someone's birthday celebration is not an official function, it's a social gathering and inconsequential in terms of enforcement of official protocol.

If that flies over your head pls feel free to ignore my comments.

goslowgoslow:
Someone choose to celebrate his birthday and you are calling it inconsequential. How is that your cup of tee abi na your money? Are you the one to tell people how to celebrate their lives?

Much ado about an inconsequential birthday event.

I agree with Falana on this.